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Discussion in 'Football Chat' started by Dub13, Sep 15, 2013.

  1. Dub13

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    Could be an idea for a thread for stuff that does not require a dedicated thread.

    New contract for CR7 -

    Dagger through the heart for some Utd fans. €300K per week - net. Money in football has gone mental over the last 3 years.
     
  2. Ron1892

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    Last season's Premier League - 35 0-0s out of 380 games (9.2%)
    This season's Premier League - 6 0-0s out of 39 games (15.4%) Dull?
     
  3. Beanokelly

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    Is anyone surprised demento was in contact with referee's by text
     
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    Not one bit
     
  5. Dub13

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    Crazy stuff.
     
  6. Dub13

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    Crazy.
     
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    sly news are really trying to big up bale in Spain , reporting this morning Madrid fans going in to get a bale haircut
     
  8. Dub13

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    Interesting rule change today from Uefa...

     
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    United are Finished. They won't finish in the top 4 this season
     
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    That's a major change and if in force this season by my understanding of that rule change would have meant that Everton would be in Europe instead of Wigan.
     
  11. Dub13

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    I still think its a bit early to say that.

    Yes a big change, stuff like this tends to fly under the radar and only pops up at the end of the season.
     
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    Didnt Wigan win the cup which would have meant no change for them?
     
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    They did indeed my foolish error.
     
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    Far too early. They've got five games coming up where I wouldn't be surprised if they wracked up close to 15 points.
     
  15. Dub13

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    From Twitter...:D:D:D

     
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    :D

    haha, very clever
     
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    By Ian Herbert

    In so many ways it’s been a crazy place to start again. The many challenges of Napoli for Rafael Benitez include the lousy mobile phone reception in parts of the golf complex opposite the Castel Volturno training ground, which is home for him now. He’ll often find himself trekking back to his office, to use the landline: the kind of thing which is not supposed to happen to a Champions League-winning manager.
    He’s taking all the madness, though – the subliminal presence of the Neapolitan Camorra mafia and a rather less select choice of houses for his six new signings than Chelsea could offer – because he has now found a club who will invest in him and for him. Benitez was less emotionally insulated against the Chelsea fans’ vitriol last season than you might think and (though he’ll never admit so) it also hurt his wife to know this was how it had become for him. But it was the unanticipated word “interim” on the contract put before him there which cut him most. It’s impossible to overstate the contrast with Napoli and their president, Aurelio De Laurentiis, telling Gonzalo Higuain so emphatically about how Benitez would make him a superstar that the striker had signed before a prevaricating Arsène Wenger could even blink.
    The man who brings his new side to Arsenal on Tuesday night is quietly repaying that faith. Napoli’s win at Genoa on Saturday kept them second in Serie A – unbeaten with five wins from six – and while an anaemic Chelsea were drifting to defeat at home to Basel two weeks ago, Benitez was beating last season’s finalists, Borussia Dortmund, in the Champions League.
    Privately, he is preoccupied by Napoli learning to grow and modernise both as a city and a club, and he is in his tactical element. “Systems, systems! We’ve faced five of them in seven games!” he said in his fortnightly Independent column last Friday. There has also been the fascination of seeing Lorenzo Insigne, a Neapolitan street kid viewed on the Bay of Naples in the way Wayne Rooney was on the banks of the Mersey, defying potentially destabilising outside influences in his life, who all want a piece. Benitez sees all his promise but you won’t hear him talking the boy up. He knows danger lurks down that road.
    None of this success will surprise the quotient of Messianic Liverpudlians who still track Benitez’s progress. There was a table full of them waiting for him in London’s Melia White House Hotel when Napoli arrived there for this summer’s Emirates Cup. The Spaniard’s scheduled five minutes with them had stretched to 20 when one of his players was deputed to call him to dinner. And yet... there is still that sense that some on these shores care to sneer at this man. There was one inference at the weekend that Benitez thought Chelsea didn’t deserve him, a continuation of that unflattering characterisation which accompanied him so remorselessly through those months at Chelsea. Why?
    Perhaps because of the anti-intellectual response which football reaches for so quickly. This is the man who, when asked for an Independent column last year to recommend a football coaching book, suggested the works of the Hungarian tactician Arpad Csanadi. And who imported to our shores the 4-2-3-1 system, having watched the tactical innovator Juan Manuel Lillo develop it at Salamanca. We don’t always like these foreigners telling us how to play our game and Benitez – not entirely the soul of tact – is not always the best at disguising the fact that he knows better than others. Neither was he one of that British managerial establishment who laid garlands at the throne of Sir Alex Ferguson, whose friends subsequently took the Scot’s part against him – Sam Allardyce ridiculously so. Benitez can be political. He was no wallflower when it came to facing down that British establishment.
    Maybe those tactical obsessions have not helped him, either. While Jose Mourinho and Pep Guardiola are busy expounding philosophies and being characterised as modernisers because of it, Benitez – with his almost Cartesian belief in the rational – is assessing only which system he will prepare to face next. “I leave philosophy to Socrates and Plato,” he wrote in these pages last Friday. He does have a philosophy – pressing and counter-attack are integral to it – but football to him is ultimately like a game of chess. That is unfashionable. And, thus, he polarises opinion.
    “There’s no space to think he is a quite good manager, any more,” says the writer and journalist Rory Smith, with whom Benitez collaborated on the book Champions League Dreams, which charts, game plan by game plan, how he made Liverpool such a fearful team in Europe once again. The arrival of Benitez at Liverpool and Jose Mourinho at Chelsea in 2004 coincided with the explosion in football forums, intensifying the debate in a realm where there are few shades of grey.
    The man deserves better. In his final two months at Chelsea, a squad minus six of the players Mourinho possesses now – Willian, André Schürrle, Marco van Ginkel, Samuel Eto’o, Kevin De Bruyne and Michael Essien – beat Manchester United twice, won the Europa League and took 26 points from 30 in the Premier League. Then he vanished without fanfare.
    There are compensations about life in the shadow of Mount Vesuvius, like an audience which puts the football pitch above his personality. “I think I’ve talked more about tactics in nine weeks than I did in nine years in England,” he told me last week. But the sense that he would savour another chance to demonstrate his ability to the British public is unmistakeable. His wife and daughters still live on their beloved Merseyside. He can answer his phone there, too. Yes, he’d take the slings and arrows again in a flash.
     
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    I wasn't keen on increasing the European Championship to 24 teams.This idea is just ridiculous.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...euros-into-alternative-world-cup-8861335.html

    Revolutionary plans to expand the European Championship into a huge rival to the World Cup are being discussed by advisers close to Uefa’s president, Michel Platini.

    In the biggest change to international football for three decades, the revamped tournament would see national teams from other continents invited to take part. Under the new blueprint, which is another sign of the growing rift between Platini and Fifa’s president, Sepp Blatter, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico and even Japan would be invited to compete against Europe’s leading teams at Euro 2020.

    The plans are still to be finalised, let alone approved, but one senior adviser to Platini said: “The ideas are at an early stage but they are very feasible. The South Americans have been doing it for decades, inviting teams from outside their continent to take part in the Copa America. So why cannot Europe?”

    Since 1993 three teams from North and Central America – USA, Mexico and Costa Rica – have been regular participants in Copa America.

    A decision has already been taken to expand the 2016 European Championship to 24 teams, just eight fewer than the World Cup. According to Platini’s adviser the tournament could be run on similar lines to Fifa’s showpiece event.

    Although the two tournaments are held two years apart, Uefa insiders are clearly aware that Fifa would regard the new venture as a significant threat, since the World Cup is their major source of income.

    The development comes amid widespread disillusion with the way Fifa, and the controversial Blatter, have handled the awarding of the 2022 World Cup to Qatar, the fallout from which dominated last week’s Fifa Executive Committee meeting in Zurich. Premier League clubs have led the opposition to moving the tournament to a winter schedule, and a Fifa task force has been set up to try to find a way forward.

    That the European Championship plans are being openly talked about in Uefa circles also shows the split that has developed between Platini and Blatter, world football’s two most powerful men. That in turn reflects a wider battle which has seen Fifa seek to dilute Europe’s influence.

    As the adviser said: “Many in Fifa are talking of cutting back Europe’s power, reducing the number of European teams in the World Cup [currently 13 out of 32 in 2014] and also our representation on the Fifa executive [eight out of 24].”

    If the plans are implemented, they would mark the final evolution of a tournament which began in 1960 as a competition run along the lines of the old European Cup. Teams played each other home and away in the early rounds, with only four teams contesting the finals. The present format of qualifying group stages was only introduced in 1980, but last year Platini shocked everyone by announcing that the 2020 tournament will be held in 13 cities.

    The proposed new tournament would be a huge money-spinner and could also be justified on football grounds. The European Championship has long been regarded as producing a better calibre of football than the present World Cup, because of the latter’s need to accommodate all continents. This contrast was particularly pronounced in the last tournament, in South Africa in 2010.
     
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    Was just reading that, silly silly idea these lads are going to ruin football.
     
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    Gary Neville's Arabic twin on Al Jazeera

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