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[GaryMc]

Some terrible performances and passion from the players in the last few games. The season starts this Sunday. Rafa needs to get a rocket up a few players and if they are not up for this one, I don't know what is around the corner, I really don't. We beat them last year without Torres and Gerrard, its seems unlikely they will start this weekend. Get stuck into the tramps from the first whistle.

Roll on Sunday.

[fermoyred80]

Some terrible performances and passion from the players in the last few games. The season starts this Sunday. Rafa needs to get a rocket up a few players and if they are not up for this one, I don't know what is around the corner, I really don't. We beat them last year without Torres and Gerrard, its seems unlikely they will start this weekend. Get stuck into the tramps from the first whistle.

Roll on Sunday.
Rafa needs a rocket up his own arse also.

[D-Red]

Rafa needs a rocket up his own arse also.

Is this not a thread for the match against the Mancs?

Maybe you can put comments about putting a rocket up Rafa's arse somewhere else

[Rebelred80]

Would love to see a hugh show of support for Rafa on Sunday.

[fermoyred80]

Is this not a thread for the match against the Mancs?

Maybe you can put comments about putting a rocket up Rafa's arse somewhere else

Ya it is and Im saying he needs a rocket up his own arse :confused: just as the origional poster said the players do

[carpe diem]

not a great time to start up the next match/last match thread kopirish :D ,should be interesting nonetheless ;)

but anyway i feel it in my bones we'll take them cnuts sunday,bring em on,we'll push them over the line,if rafa needs a super sub i have me shorts and socks washed and ready,he just has to look up at block 225 and give me a wink,i'll take that cnut owen out for him :D


form goes out the window in derbys like this lads,fcuk tonight,bring on sunday !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gowinit6times]

Some terrible performances and passion from the players in the last few games. The season starts this Sunday. Rafa needs to get a rocket up a few players and if they are not up for this one, I don't know what is around the corner, I really don't. We beat them last year without Torres and Gerrard, its seems unlikely they will start this weekend. Get stuck into the tramps from the first whistle.

Roll on Sunday.

The season could be fcukin over on Sunday. I think the shit is about to hit the fan but I hope that the anger is directed first and foremost at the Yanks. Looking at some of the players on the bench to bring on, its hard not to scratch your head sometimes. I think a few players attitudes are stinking, Babel being the biggest culprit, whilst Torres made himself available for a nothing game with Spain last week and might not now return until we are scrapping to fight for a Champions League spot for next year.

I hope there is a massive protest against these 2 cnuts on Sunday and that fans aren't hoodwinked by the anticipated media hysteria surrounding the managers position. The rot must be stopped at the top and done fast.

[redforever]

?? not really feelin the love..

No matter what I want a win on Sun cant afford to lose against the MANCS.

[KELMG]

Just like Carra said, we did it last year without Gerrard and Torres.And besides its not 100% confirmed that they wont be playing yet so fingers crossed.

We need to be rolling right over the scum from the word go and not letting the f**kers breathe.

Despite our poor form lately we are more than capable and I know were all so down and depressed at the moment but we need to get behind the boys on sunday.We are in serious need of a lift and theres no better way of getting it than beating the mancs.

[pepesgloves]

if this makes any sense..........we always do well when we are doing crap:confused: in other words the mancs will think they will have us but how many times have we come out on top in situations like this,2-1 to us and snidey cnut stretchered off in tears and out for the rest of the season.:D

[Maverick]

The players will be up for this if their not theres something wrong,United are not without fault either and not playing well,luck has been on their side,hopefully their luck runs out Sunday and we can get back to winning ways.Everyone needs to believe again and leave this bad run where it belongs in the past!!!Come on the pool!!

[carpe diem]

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N166152091020-2247.htm

Rafa Benitez admits Liverpool face a nervous wait to discover the extent of Steven Gerrard's injury after the captain limped out of Tuesday's Champions League defeat to Lyon.
The midfielder lasted just 25 minutes of the contest at Anfield due to a suspected recurrence of a groin injury, and the boss will now await the results of further tests on Wednesday.

"I think it is the same problem," Benitez told his post-match press conference. "He felt something, so he knew it was better to come off."

Asked if he felt it was a risk playing his skipper, Benitez replied: "It wasn't a risk. He wanted to play, the doctor said he was okay and he has been training for the last two days. Sometimes it is bad luck."

Benitez also confirmed Glen Johnson missed the game due to injury, while youngster Martin Kelly sustained a knock in the second half of our 2-1 reverse.

"We will have to check the players tomorrow," he said. "We have too many problems with different players and we won't know more until we check tomorrow."

[4tothefloor]

Rafa needs a rocket up his own arse also.
Agree. He needs to stop picking the players who are not stepping up to the plate. He dropped Skrtel tonight against Lyon, there's at least 3 players who deserve to be dropped more than Skrtel for Utd.

The Mancs are not playing well at all at the moment and hopefully they'll have it tough in Moscow tomorrow night. We're well capable of a draw and even the win. I think Rafa has a few key team selections to put right first though.

[LFC Barry]

Agree. He needs to stop picking the players who are not stepping up to the plate. He dropped Skrtel tonight against Lyon, there's at least 3 players who deserve to be dropped more than Skrtel for Utd.


After Skrtels shambolic display on Saturday, Rafa was dead right to drop him. I'm confident a Carra/Agger partnership for a few games will see the defence improve no end.

With regards, to picking players which aren't playing well, I don't think theres much Rafa can do. With all the injuries, there was nobody not playing tonight who should have been

[athlonecelt]

Hope to God FOR THE SAKE OF THE CLUB we lose on Sundayand we see such a massive reaction to 5 defeats in a row that Rafa walks.
Like I hoped Staunton would not win his last match as Ireland manager, because i knew we could do much better under a new manager.
Hate to admit it but its my genuine feeling.

[LFC Barry]

Hope to God FOR THE SAKE OF THE CLUB we lose on Sundayand we see such a massive reaction to 5 defeats in a row that Rafa walks.
Like I hoped Staunton would not win his last match as Ireland manager, because i knew we could do much better under a new manager.
Hate to admit it but its my genuine feeling.

You want us to lose to our biggest rivals at Anfield? Have a word with yourself mate.

And you'll be disappointed to hear that even if we do Rafa won't be walking anyway

[south]

Hope to God FOR THE SAKE OF THE CLUB we lose on Sundayand we see such a massive reaction to 5 defeats in a row that Rafa walks.
Like I hoped Staunton would not win his last match as Ireland manager, because i knew we could do much better under a new manager.
Hate to admit it but its my genuine feeling.


my god.

[south]

thats only looking to stir sh*t

[StEtienne77]

Just like Carra said, we did it last year without Gerrard and Torres.

Hate to mention his name for fear of getting strung up but we had a certain Xabi Alonso playing last year against the Mancs.

[LFC Barry]

thats only looking to stir sh*t

It has to be doesn't it?

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Hope to God FOR THE SAKE OF THE CLUB we lose on Sundayand we see such a massive reaction to 5 defeats in a row that Rafa walks.
Like I hoped Staunton would not win his last match as Ireland manager, because i knew we could do much better under a new manager.
Hate to admit it but its my genuine feeling.


Stick to supporting Celtic you WUM.

[athlonecelt]

its not a shit stirring comment, Its how I feel.

Of course we can lift our game and win, but Ill know that that aint enough.
I'll know that we are left with a manager who WILL NOT WIN THE LEAGUE.
Im sorry but Im 100pc convinced of that.

So If losing to Utd meant a chance of having a manager who might improve our chances of winning the league then yes Id take it.
As much as it would hurt, we've gotten over defeats b4 , wed do it again.
but win or lose Sunday, we wont be ever winning with Rafa

[carpe diem]

Hope to God FOR THE SAKE OF THE CLUB we lose on Sundayand we see such a massive reaction to 5 defeats in a row that Rafa walks.
Like I hoped Staunton would not win his last match as Ireland manager, because i knew we could do much better under a new manager.
Hate to admit it but its my genuine feeling.

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/crying.gif gotten to the stage now where this is all i can do,oh what a fickle bunch we have.

[jaza]

Stick to supporting Celtic you fcuking WUM.

refrain from the insults ninja. you have been warned

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

refrain from the insults ninja. you have been warned

Calling somebody a wind up merchant when they say they want us to lose at home to united?!....

[rafalabamba]

its not a shit stirring comment, Its how I feel.



So If losing to Utd meant a chance of having a manager who might improve our chances of winning the league then yes Id take it.
As much as it would hurt, we've gotten over defeats b4 , wed do it again.
but win or lose Sunday, we wont be ever winning with Rafa

Could i ask who would you rather as manager?

[jaza]

Calling somebody a wind up merchant when they say they want us to lose at home to united?!....

He may be on a wind up or he may be serious (as twisted as it may be) regardless of either you know better thant to bite :cool:

[LFC Barry]

So If losing to Utd meant a chance of having a manager who might improve our chances of winning the league then yes Id take it.


What if changing the manager meant you had less chance of winning the league?

[Gerry]

Hope to God FOR THE SAKE OF THE CLUB we lose on Sundayand we see such a massive reaction to 5 defeats in a row that Rafa walks.
Like I hoped Staunton would not win his last match as Ireland manager, because i knew we could do much better under a new manager.
Hate to admit it but its my genuine feeling.


Really does say alot about you that you hope we loose :confused:

Regardless of how anyone feels on rafa or any right or wrongs of anything that went on - do you honestly think any manager would touch us with a bargepole now ? with no money to spend, two owners that hardly speak and when they do its to tell lies, they pull funds promised to the manager ie the deal for silva - do people not know how badly off the club is :confused:

Now before anyone starts crying about opinions - we are all entitled to them and i have not insulted anyone or ran anyone down i just do not understand how you can come to yours

I have never ever wanted Us to Loose and ill never understand people who do !

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

He may be on a wind up or he may be serious (as twisted as it may be) regardless of either you know better thant to bite :cool:


True.Its been a bad day:o

[The St John]

Hope to God FOR THE SAKE OF THE CLUB we lose on Sundayand we see such a massive reaction to 5 defeats in a row that Rafa walks.
Like I hoped Staunton would not win his last match as Ireland manager, because i knew we could do much better under a new manager.
Hate to admit it but its my genuine feeling.

What a stupid statement.Are u sure your not a Man U fan.I think ur on the wrong club forum.

[jaza]

Any more personal insults will result in an instant ban.

[Ron1892]

Should this thread not be about the Next Game...

[4tothefloor]

After Skrtels shambolic display on Saturday, Rafa was dead right to drop him. I'm confident a Carra/Agger partnership for a few games will see the defence improve no end.

With regards, to picking players which aren't playing well, I don't think theres much Rafa can do. With all the injuries, there was nobody not playing tonight who should have been
I agree that Skrtel deserved to be dropped. What I'm saying is that there are 3/4 others that need to be dropped as well. And those 3/4 have been playing poorly longer than Skrtel has. There's two defenders and two midfielders from tonight that need to be given a rest, for everyone's sake including their own, and the options are there to replace them. A kick up the arse never hurt any player regardless of their status and a player with a point to prove never hurt any team either.

[barnestormer]

we need a reaction from our team to show us there still up for it and havnt thrown the towell in ,cos i havnt early days yet gonna be one of them crazy seasons,supported the reds for 35 years since i was able to breath and will support this team till my last!!

backs agaist the wall we will come out swinging!

[Rebelred80]

its not a shit stirring comment, Its how I feel.

Of course we can lift our game and win, but Ill know that that aint enough.
I'll know that we are left with a manager who WILL NOT WIN THE LEAGUE.
Im sorry but Im 100pc convinced of that.

So If losing to Utd meant a chance of having a manager who might improve our chances of winning the league then yes Id take it.
As much as it would hurt, we've gotten over defeats b4 , wed do it again.
but win or lose Sunday, we wont be ever winning with Rafa

Cannot believe a Liverpool supporter would wright something like that. By far the worst thing I've ever read on this site.

[STEVE1978]

Hope to God FOR THE SAKE OF THE CLUB we lose on Sundayand we see such a massive reaction to 5 defeats in a row that Rafa walks.
Like I hoped Staunton would not win his last match as Ireland manager, because i knew we could do much better under a new manager.
Hate to admit it but its my genuine feeling.

Well f**k me lads and lassies, we have a new contender for the "post of the year" thread.:rolleyes: Mother of jaysus.

[SHOWTIME]

Hope to God FOR THE SAKE OF THE CLUB we lose on Sundayand we see such a massive reaction to 5 defeats in a row that Rafa walks.
Like I hoped Staunton would not win his last match as Ireland manager, because i knew we could do much better under a new manager.
Hate to admit it but its my genuine feeling.

That is the worst thing I have ever read.Anybody who wants us to lose a match is a disgrace.Am stunned!!

[Badman]

the chorus of boos last night were deafening when rafa brought off yossi whowas our only decent player on the night and brought on the pornstar who wouldnt make a loca pub team. that is ominous cos if u lose the backing of the kop ure days are usually numbered. rafa has always divided opinion but more and more are goin over to the dark side. but this notion that we should direct all our animosity towards the yanks is completely blinkered cos yes they have been a pair of clowns but htey weent playing lasst night and they didnt sign voronin, ngog etc...and even if rafa did get 25m from them whats to stop him from spending it on babel, lucas and dossena. a fair portion of the balme has to go on the players and the coach...i expect a strong response on sunday, hope we spank em but confidence is so low i'd say fergie is licking his lips at the thought of putting the final nail in the coffin of our league season...i'm not abit confident though - i actually expect to lose the next two games too and i dont know where we go from there

[ROCCO]

hope to god for the sake of the club we lose on sundayand we see such a massive reaction to 5 defeats in a row that rafa walks.
Like i hoped staunton would not win his last match as ireland manager, because i knew we could do much better under a new manager.
Hate to admit it but its my genuine feeling.

kop on

[Fowler's God]

In fairness, the players should need no more motivation for this game. I would like to see what the implications will be come Sunday if we are staring down the barrel of another defeat anyone? I think we can win but confidence in the side we put out last night is not good at all. We lack creativity in the centre of the park, we haven't become a bad side overnight. Its quite hard to put the finger on it.

If Aquilani comes through the reserves game tonight I can see him being on the bench this Sunday.

[ROCCO]

Just imagine the reaction from if we lose on Sunday ......

Come on lads lets get our season started on Sunday.

[ROCCO]

In fairness, the players should need no more motivation for this game. I would like to see what the implications will be come Sunday if we are staring down the barrel of another defeat anyone? I think we can win but confidence in the side we put out last night is not good at all. We lack creativity in the centre of the park, we haven't become a bad side overnight. Its quite hard to put the finger on it.

If Aquilani comes through the reserves game tonight I can see him being on the bench this Sunday.

Aquilani is needed but think it would be foolish to rush him in ... all we need is for him to be rushed back and put him out for longer ..

[ROCCO]

A tweaked groin in training prevented Glen Johnson’s from playing last night , doesn't sound good for Sunday , hope Kelly is ok ?

when it went 1-1 we seemed to lack any fight and determination to get a winner .... where is the comeback king mentality gone to ..

[padski08]

Some of the comments on this thread (all from the one person) are laughable at best! To hear them come from a Liverpool 'supporter' is pathetic. How you could want us to lose against our biggest rivals in a must win game at home beggers belief!

Anyway back on topic, Sunday we need a win. We need to stop thie rot. I will take a draw minimum but lose and we are goosed. Injurys are not we should not have lost 4 on the trot. Hopefully we will be able to field our full strength team but later today should give clearer indication of what we have. Be nice to see them lose few players later in Moscow but we can only plan for our our game!

Last night we were missing someone to put there foot on the ball and pick out the pass into final third. If Stevie isnt fit, we need big game from Lucas and Masch. Yossi played well last night in his role and looked lively. There were too many stray passes last night and defence still looks rocky, we need more confidence throughout the team.

[Liverpool-law]

Really does say alot about you that you hope we loose :confused:

Regardless of how anyone feels on rafa or any right or wrongs of anything that went on - do you honestly think any manager would touch us with a bargepole now ? with no money to spend, two owners that hardly speak and when they do its to tell lies, they pull funds promised to the manager ie the deal for silva - do people not know how badly off the club is :confused:

Now before anyone starts crying about opinions - we are all entitled to them and i have not insulted anyone or ran anyone down i just do not understand how you can come to yours

I have never ever wanted Us to Loose and ill never understand people who do !

I was about to reply along those lines but I think you said it all Gerry.

For those of you looking for a new manager, who the hell do you think would walk into our circus??

We'd better pray that Rafa stays, a big win against the dirty scum and Aquaman up and running could be a huge turning point in a season.

[Benbecul97]

I was about to reply along those lines but I think you said it all Gerry.

For those of you looking for a new manager, who the hell do you think would walk into our circus??

We'd better pray that Rafa stays, a big win against the dirty scum and Aquaman up and running could be a huge turning point in a season.

Id settle for a small dirty win!:D

First goal on Sunday is crucial, if we get it we need to kick on and get a 2nd, if they get it the confidence wil be hit even further. Its a must win game and its at home so hopefully that will be enough to get them over the line and the season can then kick on from there.

[diggy]

What a game this is going to be. Massive, as big as Rafa has faced including Champions league finals.

Confidence is shot to pieces in the current squad, how we need a fit Torres, Gerard and Johnson on Sunday but very possible that all will be missing. Need a 150% display from Masch and the lads at the back, give a team a solid base for Benny, Kuyt and Riera (hopefully) to take on a United back four that itself hasn't looked solid. As much as it pains, I think we'll have to use Babbel up front if Torres is out. He's had his chance and blew it on number of occasions but I think his pace and directness (if he pulls finger out) will trouble United, plus he has a physical presence. I really hated typing that.

Season defining game. I hope Rafa is stubborn enough to ignore media, some fans and really pull the players through.

I really hope the crowd gets behind the 11 on the field, they'll need it. Upper Annie Road here we come!

[GDLUCKXABI]

Even a win here and it will only be hiding the defeciences of our squad. We ahve to be up for this game and hopefully we can put in an all action performance and come away with the points. united are not in great form themselves and we will always have a chance against anybody, especially at Anfield but I honestly think even a win here will not kick start our season. We look to be really struggling all over the pitch and I fear something is drastically wrong but anyway forgetting all that and concentrating on this game. We really can win it, just need the boys to pull together, get the bit between their teeth that the arrival of United at Anfield should ensure they have and just go at them full throttle and dont give them a second on the ball, do that and we can win. Play as we have recently and we'll be beaten.

I expect a better performance on sunday howeevr and think we'll bounce back in this game.

[byrnetred]

its vital that we win on sunday cause it would be a disaster to have to go and play fulham away if we are 10 points behind the leaders

[diggy]

Wrong place but in case anyone needs to know, the offal have said that some limited returns to fan card holers/members with one home game recorded. I'd imagine they limited if anyone needs spares let them know.

[SUPERFAN]

the chorus of boos last night were deafening when rafa brought off yossi whowas our only decent player on the night and brought on the pornstar who wouldnt make a loca pub team. that is ominous cos if u lose the backing of the kop ure days are usually numbered. rafa has always divided opinion but more and more are goin over to the dark side

under normal circumstances a game at home against the mancs is a must win game,the fans don't even want to contemplate losing,but now this really is a must win game.add to that the prospect of that little cnut michael owen playing and,perish the thought,scoring.
the crowd will be no doubt up for it from the start and if they win it'll be a well needed boost for everyone,players,manager,fans.i can see a very bad reaction from large sections of the crowd though if they lose on sunday.there's a hell of a lot more than just 3 points at stake....

[clayton]

the toe-rags from Manc will be chomping at the bit since we beat them at anfield last year and hockeyed them at old trafford.. if we get a win on sunday, it could be the turning point of our season, lets hope the lads show some savvy !!

[mascherIANO]

anyone going to the game sunday get behind the team and create a cauldron atmosphere, an atmosphere like the chelsea semi an atmosphere like juventus 1/4 final come on lads this is the time when we get behind our team and show who the best fans in the world are. lets get behind the players not slag them off like some other so called supporters of their clubs. i dont know why but i feel us as supporters of the club thses are the times when the club needs us the most. sing our hearts out sunday and truly be the 12th man. Sundays going to be special I know it and its up to us as supporters to play our part in the result.

[ROCCO]

Do not be Mistaken utd will be going for the win , thinking it will finish our season ..

[Niall]

Do not be Mistaken utd will be going for the win , thinking it will finish our season ..

I hardly thought they'd be to aiming to lose.

[paulwex]

If anyone can purchase tickets for IK trip please do.... people on trip still looking for some and they are on sale again today for anyone with any game this season recorded

[mascherIANO]

If anyone can purchase tickets for IK trip please do.... people on trip still looking for some and they are on sale again today for anyone with any game this season recorded

what time today mate do you know cheers?

[Niall]

what time today mate do you know cheers?

Now.

[paulwex]

rite now afaik

[mascherIANO]

rite now afaik

sound i cant see anything comin up ill try again.

[D-Red]

sound i cant see anything comin up ill try again.

on the phones Ian!

[Niall]

sound i cant see anything comin up ill try again.

Phones only.

[mascherIANO]

on the phones Ian!

alri cheers. i taught was online. try now.

[justydawson]

Really does say alot about you that you hope we loose :confused:

Regardless of how anyone feels on rafa or any right or wrongs of anything that went on - do you honestly think any manager would touch us with a bargepole now ? with no money to spend, two owners that hardly speak and when they do its to tell lies, they pull funds promised to the manager ie the deal for silva - do people not know how badly off the club is :confused:

Now before anyone starts crying about opinions - we are all entitled to them and i have not insulted anyone or ran anyone down i just do not understand how you can come to yours

I have never ever wanted Us to Loose and ill never understand people who do !

The only thing I would add to Gerry's post here is I agree with him completly (thats a change isnt it Gerry :rolleyes:)

Only thing to add is - A Draw and I'm happy, a win and Im Bouncing! :D

[Podgecheco]

Think about it lads, all the stick wel be getting off the mancs this week, ready to hammer us on sunday...oh god that victory is gonna be sweeter than the 4 1 last year...come on the redmen show them what liverpool is all about, down but were not out

[justydawson]

Ok Im repeat posting this since I believe its highly important. the yank twats are gonna be at the game.

Tom Hicks and George Gillett are, according to our sources, planning to attend this Sunday's game against Manchester United at Anfield. Being the massive football (soccer?) fans that they are, they couldn't afford to miss a big game such as this. They don't have to afford the trip, as no doubt a claim for expenses will soon be submitted to LFC for the cost of their stay. This is an opportunity we can't afford to miss.

Whilst their arrival will no doubt bring with it fresh speculation, about rifts and friendships, sales and investment, we have to make ourselves heard. We have to tell them, and the watching world, that quite simply, they aren't welcome here. Broken promise after broken promise, lie after lie, has become too much for fans to accept from these "custodians" who, quite frankly, don’t know the meaning of the word. It's time for Tom Hicks and George Gillett to get the message, sell the club (all of it) and leave, allowing us to finally move forward from this sorry mess.

We urge everyone who cares about Liverpool Football Club, whether going to the match or not, to make their voices heard. Firstly, tell Tom Hicks yourself. Email him at thicks@hicksholdings.com telling him why he's not 't welcome here. If you need some pointers on what to say, this is what Spirit Of Shankly has sent to them:



Dear Tom/George

You’ve been at our club for over two and a half years now. And in that time what have you achieved? Very little, other than a lot of hatred from fans, and a number of all expenses paid trips to Liverpool to watch that strange game called soccer. Please excuse the tone, but to be honest, it has gone past the point of us fans really caring what you think anymore.

All we care about is our football club, our history and traditions, and our future. To us, you play no part in that future – especially not if we want to be successful and keep moving forward. You will leave a black mark on the history of our football club. You have dragged us back, and this season, you have made us stand still, whilst other clubs move forward. The broken promises and repeated lies have caused anger, and there is nothing you can do to change that. You can claim all you like that the media make things up, but they didn’t make the debt up, they didn’t say they would put a spade in the ground in 60 days, and they didn't say that they would back the manager – You did. The pair of you don’t get on, and you can’t even lie without contradicting yourselves.

So do one thing for us fans. Leave. Sell the club, clear the debt, take the profit and go away. Because you, or your fellow “custodian” are not welcome here anymore!

Spirit Of Shankly


There will be a march taking place prior to Sunday's game. Meeting on Sunday at Noon outside the LFC Supporters Club on Lower Breck Road, it is a perfect opportunity for all of us, to stand as one, and speak as one, with one clear message - Tom and George, You're Not Welcome Here!

[Phil!]

On a poor run no doubt about that but what better way to come out of it fighting than beating scum!!! We need to get behind the team and we can do it!! Would stick With the same defence as last night

Reina
Kelly Agger Carra Insua

Unless Johnson is back in that case would start him!
Aqualani playing for the reserves tonight so hopefully he can be on the bench on Sunday but think will be starting with Mach and Lucas again

Macherano Lucas

Difficult to say what the rest of the team will be if Gerrard and Torres were to be back would think it would be

Kuyt Gerrard Yossi
Torres

But as that looks unlikely I would like to see Babel start but dont think rafa will, would like to see

Kuyt Yossi Aurelio
Babel

But can see Rafa starting

Kuyt Yossi Aurelio
Ngog

No matter what team is played tough we need 110% committment and effort and passion from the lads and we can win!! Anfield will be hoppin on Sunday we can take the scum!!

[ROCCO]

From Times Online
October 21, 2009

Rafael Benitez cannot be blamed for crisis at Anfield, says Tony Barrett

Times Liverpool reporter delivers his verdict on the key issues facing Rafael Benitez and what is going wrong at Anfield. He talks to Ben Smith

How have Liverpool come to this point?

There is a growing feeling of despair that Liverpool's season is hanging by a thread and it is not even November. Everyone has their own view on who is to blame, whether that be Rafael Benitez, the players, or even the injury problems, but it was only a matter of time before the ongoing ownership saga off the pitch lead to a crisis on it.

With Manchester United arriving at Anfield on Sunday that has just brought everything to a head but at the moment the squad is clearly some way short of the standard required of a club that expect to be challenging for trophies.

Who is to blame for the current problems?

Primarily the owners, but Benitez and the players do have to take their share of the blame. The walls are closing in on the manager but it is not fair to rest the blame for this squarely with Benitez, not when his reign has been undermined by the continuing lack of stability in the boardroom.

George Gillett Jr was at Anfield last night to see a team that suddenly looks weak and vulnerable. Yes, Benitez could have done a better job in the transfer market and could have done a better job in motivating the players and getting the best out of them so far this season. But the lack of activity during the summer transfer window was as big a wasted opportunity as the club have had in many years.

After finishing second last year the hope was that there would have been investment in the playing staff to strengthen from good foundations. But the owners told Benitez to balance the books - he was only able to spend what he brought in and that has resulted in the squad lacking the strength and depth that it should have.

Manchester United would have been a big game regardless but the current problems have just raised the stakes still further. How big a game is this for Liverpool?

United is always a massive game for Liverpool regardless of form or league positions. It is the one game every season that the fans want to win more than any other.

Defeat on Sunday is unthinkable for most Liverpool fans but should it happen it would really set alarm bells ringing. Last season Liverpool beat United at Anfield without Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard but their form is so precarious this year that they will need to get at least some of their big guns on the pitch or they are not going to be able to compete.

United will, as Lyons did last night, smell blood and they will relish the opportunity to put Liverpool out of the title race and send the club into an even deeper crisis.

Benitez was booed for replacing Yossi Benayoun last night. Is there any hint he is losing support among the fans?

A result often changes the way people recall a game. When Liverpool were 1-0 up the Kop were singing his name and there is nothing new in the crowd showing their disapproval at a substitution at Anfield. If the crowd don't like it they will let you know about it and there have been quite a few occasions when that has happened in recent seasons.

Having said that, last night's booing was much more vociferous and was clear there was genuine anger being shown towards Benitez. Come Sunday the fans know the team will need all their support to have any chance of beating United. Liverpool are likely to be missing some key players and now is not the time to turn against the team or the manager.

Tom Hicks and Gillett are both likely to be at the ground so the crowd may well direct their anger towards them if things start to go against Liverpool. Throw Michael Owen's return to Anfield into the mix and it could be an even more volatile atmosphere than usual.

Are the owners still 100 per cent behind Benitez?

Their position has changed and they insist Benitez is still the man for the job. As we know from previous experience, often what Gillett and Hicks say is not what is going on the background. The problem for Benitez is that the men who are at the root cause of Liverpool’s problems are the ones that will decide his fate.

What would defeat against United mean at Anfield?

Winning the Premier League title this season is already the longest of long shots with so many big games to come and so many doubts surrounding the side.

Defeat by United would certainly put the final nail in the coffin of Liverpool's title hopes but I have a suspicion that Benitez, despite everything that is going on, will feel confident of defying the odds and getting a victory that could turn the tide.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article6883920.ece

[stalker]

Who the **** are Man Utd
Who the **** are Man Utd
Who the **** are Man Utd
They're a shower of dirty ****ing ****s

[ROCCO]

Honest assessment.

[Niall]

Lads we will do it on Sunday. We have our lucky charm Stevie Kehoe back!!!!!

[stalker]

Fair assessment.

Correction

[richie_lfc]

Wish I could go to this, would love to get behind the lads. Hope there's a cracking show of support Sunday and we stuff them and get everything back on track. Come on you Redmen!

[justydawson]

Im sick to death of listening to Mancs in work today... hope we have something to sing about in the next couple of days and weeks.

Especially Champs League, Please God we dont suffer there also!

[stalker]

This Old Man
He Told me
Man United are total Wanks
With a Nick Nak Paddy whack
Give fergie a gin
Man United Can suck me hole

[justydawson]

not bad for a first attempt at song writing... !

[stalker]

not bad for a first attempt at song writing... !

I say what I see.

[clayton]

i am getting serious flak off my so called Man U pals, and it's doing my head in i must say (even though i don't show the frustration). but a Pool win on sunday (never mind the performance, a win will do) will go a long way i must say. it would be the perfect tonic, and will shut them up for a few more minutes at least.

[ROCCO]

Liverpool defender Glen Johnson is confident he will be fit in time to face Manchester United this weekend.

"It is a lot better today, I think I will be alright for Sunday," Johnson told skysports.com.

"I think Nando might be alright for Sunday, but I am not too sure about Stevie," added Johnson.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_5642468,00.html

[clayton]

i thought Kelly did well at right back last night

[mushypea]

Hope to God FOR THE SAKE OF THE CLUB we lose on Sundayand we see such a massive reaction to 5 defeats in a row that Rafa walks.
Like I hoped Staunton would not win his last match as Ireland manager, because i knew we could do much better under a new manager.
Hate to admit it but its my genuine feeling.



Then you my son........are not a genuine fan

[stalker]

To be perfectly blunt.

I'd like us to win this match.

[bono]

Looking foward to this game think this is were our season will get up a running.

Hope Gerrard,Torres & Johnson will all play & we put on a display to put a smile back on everyone's face.
If fit i would like to see Gerrard back in center midfield role instead of Lucas or Mascherano + Babel in the hole behind Torres with Yossi on left & Kuyt on right & go for it.

[mushypea]

anyone going to the game sunday get behind the team and create a cauldron atmosphere, an atmosphere like the chelsea semi an atmosphere like juventus 1/4 final come on lads this is the time when we get behind our team and show who the best fans in the world are. lets get behind the players not slag them off like some other so called supporters of their clubs. i dont know why but i feel us as supporters of the club thses are the times when the club needs us the most. sing our hearts out sunday and truly be the 12th man. Sundays going to be special I know it and its up to us as supporters to play our part in the result.


Totally agree with the above. How many times have we come back from the depths of hell with our heads held high? To those people who want a change right now....let me tell you this.... your turning your back not only our manager who, less we forget, has put US as a club back where we belong among Europes elite with almost both hands tied behind his back, but also our clubs traditions.

We are not Chelsea & we are not Real Madrid. We take pride in being the best fans in the world. We..... are Liverpool FC.

Regardless of your opinion on how our club is managed or run....i urge all my fellow travelling reds to get behind the team 100% this Sunday.
We've been here before guys...its what makes us special & sets us apart. Rarely have our boys let us down when they have needed us most & they do need us.


Through the storm YNWA

[SHOWTIME]

Jeez I'll be made up if Nando makes it for Sunday as i don't think Stevie will.

Fcuk the draw.Them overrated dirty manc scum are there for the taking if we play even half decent!!

[4tothefloor]

On a poor run no doubt about that but what better way to come out of it fighting than beating scum!!! We need to get behind the team and we can do it!! Would stick With the same defence as last night

Reina
Kelly Agger Carra Insua

Unless Johnson is back in that case would start him!
Aqualani playing for the reserves tonight so hopefully he can be on the bench on Sunday but think will be starting with Mach and Lucas again

Macherano Lucas

Difficult to say what the rest of the team will be if Gerrard and Torres were to be back would think it would be

Kuyt Gerrard Yossi
Torres

But as that looks unlikely I would like to see Babel start but dont think rafa will, would like to see

Kuyt Yossi Aurelio
Babel

But can see Rafa starting

Kuyt Yossi Aurelio
Ngog

No matter what team is played tough we need 110% committment and effort and passion from the lads and we can win!! Anfield will be hoppin on Sunday we can take the scum!!

Reina
Johnson Agger Skrtel Aurelio

Mascherano Gerrard

Kuyt Yossi Babel
Torres

That's what I'd go with if all are fit, and I'd prefer to see Babel up front with Torres altogether. Time to definately give Carra and Insua a rest, and injuries permitting Lucas as well. Don't want to see my little pony near the team, or Ngog ahead of babel either :rolleyes:

[bono]

Reina
Johnson Agger Skrtel Aurelio

Mascherano Gerrard

Kuyt Yossi Babel
Torres

That's what I'd go with if all are fit, and I'd prefer to see Babel up front with Torres altogether. Time to definately give Carra and Insua a rest, and injuries permitting Lucas as well. Don't want to see my little pony near the team, or Ngog ahead of babel either :rolleyes:

Not a bad team would feel we could do very well with that team on sunday only one thing there that i don't like is Babel on the left he should never see that side of the pitch again imo behind Torres or on the right with Kuyt behind Torres but never on the left again please.

[4tothefloor]

Not a bad team would feel we could do very well with that team on sunday only one thing there that i don't like is Babel on the left he should never see that side of the pitch again imo behind Torres or on the right with Kuyt behind Torres but never on the left again please.
Agree completely about Babel, which is why I said I'd prefer him up front with Torres. Unfortunately I don't think Rafa will play him on the right ahead of Kuyt as he'd have to drop Kuyt then. If he puts Aurelio in at left back (which I hope to god he does) than Babel really is our only option on the left as Riera is injured.....
Playing Gerrard at AM is a waste of time at the moment as we have absolutely nothing in the centre of midfield. No control of the game at all. May as well have Liam Miller and Glen Whelan in there.....

[walshy74]

Hows all
Think sunday could prove to be a very big game for us this season.
I would like to see aurelio start at left back, insua got a bit of a roasting last night and dont want that happening again.
At the moment our midfield is not dominating games so we are constantly on the back foot, the lucas masch partnership doesnt seem to be working but at the moment we have no real other options.
If Riera is fit i would like to see him start on the left i think he gives us good balance with yossi in the hole behind torres(if fit) and kuyt on the right. Dont really like yossi and kuyt playing wide left and right because they both tend to drift in making us very compact and we dont have the quick instictive passing that this sort of play requires to open teams up.
Carra needs a big performance
come on you redmen

[barrydoherty]

Hows all
Think sunday could prove to be a very big game for us this season.
I would like to see aurelio start at left back, insua got a bit of a roasting last night and dont want that happening again.
At the moment our midfield is not dominating games so we are constantly on the back foot, the lucas masch partnership doesnt seem to be working but at the moment we have no real other options.
If Riera is fit i would like to see him start on the left i think he gives us good balance with yossi in the hole behind torres(if fit) and kuyt on the right. Dont really like yossi and kuyt playing wide left and right because they both tend to drift in making us very compact and we dont have the quick instictive passing that this sort of play requires to open teams up.
Carra needs a big performance
come on you redmen


Agree with Insua, really think he will be out paced by Valencia just like he was last night, would go with Aurelio aswell the better left back in my opinon at the moment plus he gives you set pieces aswell. 3 points on sunday as a must

[south]

Glen Johnson is hopeful he will recover from his groin injury in time to take his place in the Liverpool team to face Manchester United on Sunday.
The Reds No.2 missed last night's encounter with Lyon after picking up the knock in training but he is confident he will be back for the big showdown.

"I feel a lot better than yesterday and fingers crossed I will be ready for Sunday," Johnson told Liverpoolfc.tv.

"I had a problem with my groin in training on Monday but it feels a lot better now."

Meanwhile, Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard will both continue to receive intensive treatment ahead of this weekend's clash with United.

[CHRIS1892]

What is it with us & groin injuries?

[LFC Barry]

A so called insider on RAWK has said that Stevie is definitely out and Nando probably out also:(

[Kop On]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5642468,00.html

Liverpool defender Glen Johnson has told skysports.com he is confident he will be fit in time to face Manchester United this weekend.

Johnson missed Tuesday night's UEFA Champions League defeat to Lyon after picking up a groin problem in training.

Reds boss Rafa Benitez was unsure of the full extent of the injury and whether or not the England international would be available for Sunday's crunch clash with Premier League leaders United at Anfield.

However, Johnson is hopeful he will recover in time to hand Benitez a much-needed boost with Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard both struggling for fitness.

"It is a lot better today, I think I will be alright for Sunday," Johnson told skysports.com.

"We haven't tested it today, just soft tissue work and massage, but it seems a lot freer than it did yesterday."

The summer signing from Portsmouth is also hopeful Torres will be fit to tackle United, but is unsure over the availability of skipper Gerrard.

Torres has missed the last two games with an abductor problem, while Gerrard was forced to limp off in the first half of the defeat to Lyon with a recurrence of his groin problem.

"I think Nando might be alright for Sunday, but I am not too sure about Stevie," added Johnson

[stevieg]

Hows all
Think sunday could prove to be a very big game for us this season.
I would like to see aurelio start at left back, insua got a bit of a roasting last night and dont want that happening again.
At the moment our midfield is not dominating games so we are constantly on the back foot, the lucas masch partnership doesnt seem to be working but at the moment we have no real other options.
If Riera is fit i would like to see him start on the left i think he gives us good balance with yossi in the hole behind torres(if fit) and kuyt on the right. Dont really like yossi and kuyt playing wide left and right because they both tend to drift in making us very compact and we dont have the quick instictive passing that this sort of play requires to open teams up.
Carra needs a big performance
come on you redmen

Good first post and agree with Yossi and Kuyt on wings point, Riera will at least provide width and had a very good debut against them at Anfield last season, though has been very below par this season.

[SHOWTIME]

Reina
Johnson Agger Skrtel Aurelio

Mascherano Gerrard

Kuyt Yossi Babel
Torres

That's what I'd go with if all are fit, and I'd prefer to see Babel up front with Torres altogether. Time to definately give Carra and Insua a rest, and injuries permitting Lucas as well. Don't want to see my little pony near the team, or Ngog ahead of babel either :rolleyes:

Are you sure we don't share the same brain?? ;)

Would def have Babel upfront with Torres.Would have that overrated slowcoach Vidic and error prone junkie Ferdinand in a spin and Vidic would prob end up getting sent off against us again for the third time in a row.

I fully believe them scum are there for the taking!!

[djdwainec]

goin over for this sunday and really hope everyone gets behind the manager and the team, very important game and we all need to be together

[bono]

goin over for this sunday and really hope everyone gets behind the manager and the team, very important game and we all need to be together

Good shout.

[ROCCO]

Definitely drop Gerrard back into midfield until Aquilani fit as in Benayoun we have a great player to step in for Gerrard.

Reina
Magic Cara Agger Aurelio
Masch Gerrard
Kuyt Benayoun Babel?
Torres



id like to see soon ........
Reina
Magic Cara Agger Aurelio
Masch
Gerrard....Aquilani
Kuyt .....Torres ... Benayoun

[byrnetred]

really dreading this game the sheer thought of loosing is bugging the shit out of me

i never enjoy the lead up or watching these games anyway

[4tothefloor]

Definitely drop Gerrard back into midfield until Aquilani fit as in Benayoun we have a great player to step in for Gerrard.

Reina
Magic Cara Agger Aurelio
Masch Gerrard
Kuyt Benayoun Babel?
Torres


Same as my team apart from Carra. This is definately or strongest line up at the moment although it looks like Gerrard won't make it if reports are to be believed.


id like to see soon ........
Reina
Magic Cara Agger Aurelio
Masch
Gerrard....Aquilani
Kuyt .....Torres ... Benayoun

There's no reason why Rafa cannot play this system now. After all Lucas was originally a box-to-box midfielder, not a holding midfielder. If he's prepared to give that role and freedom to Aquilani he should afford it to Lucas now. Lucas is not and will never be a holding midfielder and this is one of the main reasons we are struggling at the moment. He isn't related to the quality of Alonso yet he's expected to step in and perform in that role. Makes no sense

[ROCCO]

There's no reason why Rafa cannot play this system now. After all Lucas was originally a box-to-box midfielder, not a holding midfielder. If he's prepared to give that role and freedom to Aquilani he should afford it to Lucas now. Lucas is not and will never be a holding midfielder and this is one of the main reasons we are struggling at the moment. He isn't related to the quality of Alonso yet he's expected to step in and perform in that role. Makes no sense

Was thinking that as i thought about where to play Nemo .

At present Gerrard is playing as a support striker with Lucas holding mid /box-to box midfielder and the system falling way short recently .

Just think Nemo is more suited to be one of the Attacking midfielders than Lucas in a 4-3-3 and Lucas more suited to holding mid /box-to box midfielder .

[garyc]

Hope to God FOR THE SAKE OF THE CLUB we lose on Sundayand we see such a massive reaction to 5 defeats in a row that Rafa walks.
Like I hoped Staunton would not win his last match as Ireland manager, because i knew we could do much better under a new manager.
Hate to admit it but its my genuine feeling.

Wow..............now I may not be Rafa's greatest fan but I'd NEVER actually want us to lose, and especially not against the scum!! :confused:

I think if Nando, stevie and Johnson are fit we have every chance of beating them, if they're not I will be brickin myself!!!

[IrishRed1892]

Hope to God FOR THE SAKE OF THE CLUB we lose on Sundayand we see such a massive reaction to 5 defeats in a row that Rafa walks.
Like I hoped Staunton would not win his last match as Ireland manager, because i knew we could do much better under a new manager.
Hate to admit it but its my genuine feeling.

NTLW!

what kind of statement is that to make you absolute weapon?!

[stamullenredmen]

was reading the reserves report last night and got this massive feeling aquilani will come on and score the winner.but in reality im not holding out a lot of hope on current form.having said that win and were only four points off them and supposing chelsea win six behind them and it will give us a massive lift and hopefully fire us into life.

[Gray72]

The Man Utd match is massive and the pressure on the management and team phenomenol. It's a derby and the biggest rivalry in world football so forget about form. Utd haven't been playing well but winning and no matter how we've been playing we've been losing! Fiorentina away was a strange game an d we had enough chances to win. Chelsea away wasn't a bad performance and again there were chances. We were had by a freak goal at Sunderland. The Lyon match could have been so different had Aurelio nailed his chance. Subsequently we ended up tentative and nervous and that cost us. The fact it was 4 in a row brought a big reaction from the press and the headlines were damning!

The facts are we have had a rough time with bad results, injuries and lack of form but that's football. We don't become bad overnight and as such we shouldn't panic too much. Our squad was good enough to compete last year and bar the sale of Alonso it's pretty much the same and now we're not good enough. Well I'm sick of hearing the so called experts going on about Alonso and lack of depth! Our first 11 is as good as any and we do have quality on the bench but we are lacking confidence.

The whole Robbie Keane saga left a bad taste and the fall out was we are short up top. We never got the cash back to spend up front when Keane went back south and that has cost us dearly. We were second only to Chelsea with attempts on goal and had we some back up in the forwards we may have sneaked something at Tottenham, Sunderland and Lyon.Torres is picking up injuries because we are flogging him to depth as a lone striker. He runs for 90mins and could do with help. Voronin and Ngog just don't possess the qualities for different reasons. However if you look at our midfield and defence we have quality in most positions.

Man Utd are a different proposition without Ronaldo and don't look the same team. We are capable of getting about them and should not fear them on Sunday. I only hope the players see the Utd team in front of them and don't fear the media and our own supporters. We are a different team with Torres and Gerrard and it may take the odd goal to win it and with Torres we have a chance. Aquilani will take a bit of time and there is no way he should be considered for Sunday.

I think we need to rest Insua who struggled Tuesday night and take lucas out of the firing line. If fit Gerrard should play alongside Mascherano and Dossena/Aurelio play at left back. Maybe Babel deserves a break if torres isn't fit. Rafa looks exhausted and stressed and I really hope we get a break and some luck on Sunday for his sake alone. Maybe if we can hang on the coat tails of the leaders until January we can bring in reinforcements up front?

[byrnetred]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article6886236.ece


barrett saying gerrard out but torres should be fit

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article6886236.ece


barrett saying gerrard out but torres should be fit

Id be delighted with that at this moment in time....


http://www.eloquor.net/mod/ixp_compositions/resultats/composition-5.php?mon_champ=angleterre%2Fpremier_league%2Flive rpool1.png&gardien=REINA&Defdroit=CARRAGHER&Defcentdroit=SKRTEL&Defcent=&Defcentgauche=AGGER&Defgauche=F.+AURELIO&Mildefdroit=&Mildefcentdroit=MASCHERANO&Mildefcent=&Mildefcentgauche=&Mildefgauche=&Mildroit=&Milcentdroit=&Milcent=&Milcentgauche=LEIVA&Milgauche=&Milorgdroit=JOHNSON&Milorgcentdroit=&Milorgcent=KUYT&Milorgcentgauche=&Milorggauche=BENAYOUN&Attdroit=&Attcentdroit=&Attcent=TORRES&Attcentgauche=&Attgauche=&Rempa=CAVALIERI&Rempb=KELLY&Rempc=INSUA&Rempd=AQUILANI&Rempe=SPEARING&Rempf=BABEL&Rempg=N%B4GOG&submitButtonName=Formation+n%B01


Lads,never gonna happen but I would love to see Johnson used as an out and out winger on Sunday.I think we've gone a little stale and predictable at the moment and Rafa's gonna have to come up with something to surprise the Mancs on the day.Evra would have been preparing for a duel with Kuyt all week both mentally and tactically and I feel that they could be knocked out of their stride having to contend with Johnsons pace and quality.His speed and goal threat would keep Evra pinned back as he would be reluctant to be caught on the counter thus taking the pressure off Carra.

On form,Carra shouldn't be in the team at the moment if everyones fit and we're being honest by putting sentimentality aside.His biggest asset these days are his leadership and organisation skills-for that alone I would have him in there for such a big game but let him play at right-back where he was when we won 4-1 last year.Agger & Skrtel give a nice blend of power,pace,and comfort on the ball-its not like we can defend much worse with them at the heart of the defence than we have been recently.

Thats the team I'd go for anyway assuming Gerrard's definitely out and Nando (please God!) is fit...

[stalker]

0M63MiV-z3k

[Liverpoolharp]

What the news on Gerard is he fit?

[Ron1892]

Any one thinking that Maybe rafa is keeping every one in suspense and on sunday Johnson,Torres and Gerrard will all start....It wouldnt suprise me...

[Redrob09]

Any one thinking that Maybe rafa is keeping every one in suspense and on sunday Johnson,Torres and Gerrard will all start....It wouldnt suprise me...

I admire your optimism! Though i would love any 2 out of that 3 to be fit, i think having the 3 of them would be just to much to ask for!!

[Ron1892]

I admire your optimism! Though i would love any 2 out of that 3 to be fit, i think having the 3 of them would be just to much to ask for!!

Yeah its optismism at the highest level...

But it wouldnt suprise me that come 1.30pm on sunday if we seen the 3 of them playing...

But even with out the three of them we still beat them last year...

A victory could give us the confidence which is seriously lacking in the past few weeks and also kick start our season again hopfully..

[stalker]

JEyKjR49Smo

KFuLE2FP0fI

[CrazyHorse]

zu8z0SI51Cg

[SHOWTIME]

Id be delighted with that at this moment in time....


http://www.eloquor.net/mod/ixp_compositions/resultats/composition-5.php?mon_champ=angleterre%2Fpremier_league%2Flive rpool1.png&gardien=REINA&Defdroit=CARRAGHER&Defcentdroit=SKRTEL&Defcent=&Defcentgauche=AGGER&Defgauche=F.+AURELIO&Mildefdroit=&Mildefcentdroit=MASCHERANO&Mildefcent=&Mildefcentgauche=&Mildefgauche=&Mildroit=&Milcentdroit=&Milcent=&Milcentgauche=LEIVA&Milgauche=&Milorgdroit=JOHNSON&Milorgcentdroit=&Milorgcent=KUYT&Milorgcentgauche=&Milorggauche=BENAYOUN&Attdroit=&Attcentdroit=&Attcent=TORRES&Attcentgauche=&Attgauche=&Rempa=CAVALIERI&Rempb=KELLY&Rempc=INSUA&Rempd=AQUILANI&Rempe=SPEARING&Rempf=BABEL&Rempg=N%B4GOG&submitButtonName=Formation+n%B01


Lads,never gonna happen but I would love to see Johnson used as an out and out winger on Sunday.I think we've gone a little stale and predictable at the moment and Rafa's gonna have to come up with something to surprise the Mancs on the day.Evra would have been preparing for a duel with Kuyt all week both mentally and tactically and I feel that they could be knocked out of their stride having to contend with Johnsons pace and quality.His speed and goal threat would keep Evra pinned back as he would be reluctant to be caught on the counter thus taking the pressure off Carra.

On form,Carra shouldn't be in the team at the moment if everyones fit and we're being honest by putting sentimentality aside.His biggest asset these days are his leadership and organisation skills-for that alone I would have him in there for such a big game but let him play at right-back where he was when we won 4-1 last year.Agger & Skrtel give a nice blend of power,pace,and comfort on the ball-its not like we can defend much worse with them at the heart of the defence than we have been recently.

Thats the team I'd go for anyway assuming Gerrard's definitely out and Nando (please God!) is fit...

Kuyt in the hole?Are you for real???

Has to be Benayoun in there to supply Torres with the ammunition plus Benayoun never seems to play well when on the left wing.

I'd have personally have Babel upfront with Torres cos them scum can't cope with speed at the back but it obviously won't happen.

[RedPaddy]

really dreading this game the sheer thought of loosing is bugging the shit out of me

i never enjoy the lead up or watching these games anyway


+1.....whenever we get a lead in these games (not often since the houllier days!) i just wish for it to be over!!......
it'l be extremely tense on sunday up until the final whistle & i can only hope & pray that the players, as i've said before on here> shut up & practice what they've been preaching alot this season >''BOUNCE BACK'' etc etc....

please lads, step up to the challange & show some guts for us & LFC!

[ROCCO]

Don't be under any false illusions UTD are out to win this , This another battle no prisoners .
Players need to get confidence from somewhere and make it a high tempo game from the start , have a feeling the Atmosphere is going to be the best in years for a premiership game.So lets get behind the side way before the game starts ...

[ROCCO]

LIVERPOOL will decide today whether to risk Steven Gerrard in their pivotal showdown with Manchester United this weekend.

The Anfield skipper will undergo a fitness assessment on the groin problem he aggravated during the Champions League defeat to Lyon on Tuesday.

But while there is only an outside chance Gerrard will have recovered in time for Sunday, Liverpool are increasingly confident Fernando Torres will be available.

The striker is responding well to treatment on the adductor injury that has ruled him out of the last two games.

And Glen Johnson should also play having returned to training yesterday following his own groin problem, that forced him out of the 2-1 Lyon loss.

However, Johnson’s replacement in midweek, Martin Kelly is out after hurting his ankle when colliding with the goalpost while trying to keep out Lyon’s equaliser on Tuesday, with Albert Riera also sidelined.

Alberto Aquilani will also not be considered,

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2009/10/23/liverpool-fc-to-decide-today-on-whether-steven-gerrard-will-face-manchester-united-92534-24997732/

[bobby benitez]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article6886236.ece


barrett saying gerrard out but torres should be fit

If we had to have 1 of the 2 I'd choose Torres. Benni is a much more capable replacement for Stevie than Ngog is for Torres.

[Phil!]

I could maybe see Gerrard on the bench think Torres and Johnson will start but Stevie will be kept back incase we need him

[GDLUCKXABI]

Rooney looks to be out but it could be fergie trying to be clever! the ****!

[mascherIANO]

this is the biggest game for me between the sides in a long long time. and i just have a feeling were in for something special sunday.

anyone agree?

[Phil!]

this is the biggest game for me between the sides in a long long time. and i just have a feeling were in for something special sunday.

anyone agree?

Its goin to be a massive game alrite. Atmosphere will be electric! Lookin forward to it but nervous too!

[vincenzo]

Rooney looks to be out but it could be fergie trying to be clever! the ****!
I wouldn't believe anything that tramp says.

[Phil!]

Yeah apparently Rooney and Fletcher are out but I wont believe that til the players walk out onto the pitch on Sunday

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Kuyt in the hole?Are you for real???

Has to be Benayoun in there to supply Torres with the ammunition plus Benayoun never seems to play well when on the left wing.

I'd have personally have Babel upfront with Torres cos them scum can't cope with speed at the back but it obviously won't happen.


Not in the hole but as the support striker.Dont want your buddy "the next Henry" anywhere near our starting line-up Sunday.This game is HUGE and we can't afford any passengers.

[Beanokelly]

I'll believe it when I see it on sunday it's just a smoke screen

[Gazr21]

i'l be up at anfield on sunday...just on the off chance that anyone on here has a spare ticket i said id ask and it would be greatly appreciated....gerrard having a fitness test this morning lets hope he pulls through....johnson and torres will be back

[Niall]

Sir Alex Ferguson has stoked the fire ahead of Manchester United's trip to Liverpool by saying he can understand why Sunderland's goal stood last week.

The Reds' dismal run of results continued when they succumbed 1-0 to the Black Cats thanks to a Darren Bent goal that deflected of a beach ball that was thrown onto the pitch by one of Liverpool's own supporters.

According to the laws of the game any goal that is aided by an 'outside agent' should be disallowed but referee Mike Jones allowed the strike to stand.

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez credibly did not use the freak goal as an excuse for the defeat but Ferguson can see why the goal stood.

"It was an unusual incident. Obviously the goal shouldn't have been allowed but in the spur of the moment I think the referee was caught off guard with that one," he said.

"I must admit I thought it was a goal but I read the laws of the game saying if there was an outside agent it should be disallowed.

"I thought it was a goal like the wind, the wind can take the ball. You can say that is an outside agent. When you see that it is unusual."

[scousepaddy]

this is the biggest game for me between the sides in a long long time. and i just have a feeling were in for something special sunday.

anyone agree?


its a huge one alright, i have never been more nervous about a league match in my life i dont think!!

[ROCCO]

fergie is a lying twat .... Does it every time we play them

[SHOWTIME]

Not in the hole but as the support striker.Dont want your buddy "the next Henry" anywhere near our starting line-up Sunday.This game is HUGE and we can't afford any passengers.


Support striker??Seriously??He doesn't have what it takes to play in that role.He doesn't have the brain or the quality for it!!

And if Babel got the luxury of a regular run especially upfront with Torres in his preferred position he would back up what I always say about him.

Anyway if we used the team and the formation you picked and won I would worship the ground you walk on. :)

[ROCCO]

Yes Torres and Gerrard are one of the best partnerships in the world , but With Alonso gone i would drop Stevie back a bit with Masch or Lucas and give him room to run into and put Benayoun up front with Torres.
I'd say if you look at the stats with Benayoun and Torres up Front v Gerrard and Torres up front id say Benayoun and Torres combination has more goals per game ?

[ROCCO]

Anybody thinking Babel up front wants there head testing , worst position for Babel is in the hole , you need a player who has good control and vision .... its why i favour Benayoun in there even before Gerrard.

I do hold some hope that someday Babel can play the Torres role up front ....

[dk.lfc]

its a huge one alright, i have never been more nervous about a league match in my life i dont think!!

Im in the same boat myself.on one hand i cant wait for it to
begin but then just thinkin of the importance of the result
makes my legs shake..but we are just goin to have to take
the bull by the horns and fu**ing go for it

[graham]

Yes Torres and Gerrard are one of the best partnerships in the world , but With Alonso gone i would drop Stevie back a bit with Masch or Lucas and give him room to run into and put Benayoun up front with Torres.
I'd say if you look at the stats with Benayoun and Torres up Front v Gerrard and Torres up front id say Benayoun and Torres combination has more goals per game ?
Benayoun is perfect to play in the hole. I'd drop Lucas (no offence to him) and play Gerrard in the centre, only of course if he's fit. Mascherano is massive to us in these big games. Pushing Gerrard back there might force United into changing their game plan. Which no doubt will be to take Gerrard out of the game

[SHOWTIME]

Anybody thinking Babel up front wants there head testing , worst position for Babel is in the hole , you need a player who has good control and vision .... its why i favour Benayoun in there even before Gerrard.

I do hold some hope that someday Babel can play the Torres role up front ....

What are you on about?Where did I say Babel in the hole?Read what I wrote correctly.I said upfront with Torres as in 2 strikers.

I know very well that Babel isn't suited to playing in the hole and said a few posts ago that it has to be Yossi in there.

[ROCCO]

What are you on about?Where did I say Babel in the hole?Read what I wrote correctly.I said upfront with Torres as in 2 strikers.

I know very well that Babel isn't suited to playing in the hole and said a few posts ago that it has to be Yossi in there.

Never said you did .... :p

[SHOWTIME]

Never said you did .... :p

Ah my bad.Sorry mate.;)

[ROCCO]

Benayoun is perfect to play in the hole. I'd drop Lucas (no offence to him) and play Gerrard in the centre, only of course if he's fit. Mascherano is massive to us in these big games. Pushing Gerrard back there might force United into changing their game plan. Which no doubt will be to take Gerrard out of the game

Gerrard up front at the moment is unneeded when we have a great player like Benayoun to step in ... and were suffering in the middle of the park imo.

Not sure the stats but I'd say goals per game were better with Benayoun up front with Torres..

Id even be tempted to go with .. when all fit

...................................
............ Masch.............
.....Gerrard........Beanayoun
Kuyt ......Torres......Reira




...................................
............ Masch.............
.....Gerrard........Nemo
Kuyt ......Torres......Beanayoun


With Gerrard the man running into space and covering when were defending with Masch or Lucas and Nemo or Benayoun keeping more offensive a head of Gerrard .
Definitely more offensive for home games v Teams out side the top 6-7 and at time away from home depending on the opposition ..

[noodge74]

Well people, Im heading to surgery soon to get my staples from hernia op out a few days early as Im stayin in liverpool til tuesday. My appointment is for 2:15 and flight is at 4 so will be bit of a mad dash!
Heres hoping Im in agony come sunday night as it will mean the boys have pulled off something special to give me reason to do exactly what I should not be doing and jumping up and down like a lunatic!!:eek::D

[ROCCO]

Well people, Im heading to surgery soon to get my staples from hernia op out a few days early as Im stayin in liverpool til tuesday. My appointment is for 2:15 and flight is at 4 so will be bit of a mad dash!
Heres hoping Im in agony come sunday night as it will mean the boys have pulled off something special to give me reason to do exactly what I should not be doing and jumping up and down like a lunatic!!:eek::D

Take care ... best of luck ...

[SHOWTIME]

Well people, Im heading to surgery soon to get my staples from hernia op out a few days early as Im stayin in liverpool til tuesday. My appointment is for 2:15 and flight is at 4 so will be bit of a mad dash!
Heres hoping Im in agony come sunday night as it will mean the boys have pulled off something special to give me reason to do exactly what I should not be doing and jumping up and down like a lunatic!!:eek::D

Best of luck bud.

[noodge74]

Take care ... best of luck ...

Cheers mate

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Support striker??Seriously??He doesn't have what it takes to play in that role.He doesn't have the brain or the quality for it!!

And if Babel got the luxury of a regular run especially upfront with Torres in his preferred position he would back up what I always say about him.

Anyway if we used the team and the formation you picked and won I would worship the ground you walk on. :)

Dirk has very good "game intelligence" as Rafa would say but this is often overlooked.I just think his energy and movement would stretch the mancs and create more space for Nando.Wherever he plays,my main point was that I'd like to see Johnson in a more advanced role.


On Babel,I reckon he would improve if he was a regular starter-whether it be as a striker or a right-winger.(He's too one-footed and dim-witted to play on the left.).Unfortunately for him,due to our formation we play one striker and Nando is on a different planet to him so he's not going to get a regular look-in there.On the right,Dirk is very important to the shape and balance to the side and has proved his worth with far more goals and assists than Babel.When there have been injuries hes let himself and the team down with his attitude.He wont make it with us.

[ROCCO]

Cheers mate

Must be a quick job getting them out ? since you have to make 4 O'Clock flight .

Take it hospital is close to Airport , also take it stitch's are external ..... DIY ? :cool:

[noodge74]

Aye mate-I`ll be in and out in couple of minutes and flying with Ryanair so only 5 minutes to City Airport instead of 20-30 minutes to International with Easyjet.
Believe me mate,if I had the wee contraption for taking the staples out I would have them out already!:p

[SHOWTIME]

Dirk has very good "game intelligence" as Rafa would say but this is often overlooked.I just think his energy and movement would stretch the mancs and create more space for Nando.Wherever he plays,my main point was that I'd like to see Johnson in a more advanced role.


On Babel,I reckon he would improve if he was a regular starter-whether it be as a striker or a right-winger.(He's too one-footed and dim-witted to play on the left.).Unfortunately for him,due to our formation we play one striker and Nando is on a different planet to him so he's not going to get a regular look-in there.On the right,Dirk is very important to the shape and balance to the side and has proved his worth with far more goals and assists than Babel.When there have been injuries hes let himself and the team down with his attitude.He wont make it with us.

I am not convinced bout Kuyts movement but no one can doubt his energy.You might be right about Johnson but I wouldn't have Carra playing right back cause he's getting caught out of position all the time it seems this season.

Dirk plays alot more so obviously he's gonna have more goals and assists than Babel.That's a no brainer.

Even when we have injuries Babel is still a sub and then sometimes still doesn't get brought on.His attitude is questionable sometimes but he hasn't ever had a fair chance.

I remember a time when Kuyt was shocking for months yet started every game and the same goes for a few other people this season.

Babel has pace and power and it's a shame whoevers fault it is that it's going to waste on the bench.

He proved in the corresponding fixture last year that he could rip them scums so called world class defence to pieces so he definitely has the quality.

And in fairness Torres is on a different planet to everyone. :D

[ROCCO]

Aye mate-I`ll be in and out in couple of minutes and flying with Ryanair so only 5 minutes to City Airport instead of 20-30 minutes to International with Easyjet.
Believe me mate,if I had the wee contraption for taking the staples out I would have them out already!:p

Never took staple ones out but never had them to have a go ... but thread stitch's all the time ... :cool:

[scousepaddy]

Well people, Im heading to surgery soon to get my staples from hernia op out a few days early as Im stayin in liverpool til tuesday. My appointment is for 2:15 and flight is at 4 so will be bit of a mad dash!
Heres hoping Im in agony come sunday night as it will mean the boys have pulled off something special to give me reason to do exactly what I should not be doing and jumping up and down like a lunatic!!:eek::D

are you serious? i had to take my staple out myself after my operation!! with what seriously looked like a staple remover from my office

[ROCCO]

are you serious? i had to take my staple out myself after my operation!! with what seriously looked like a staple remover from my office

:cool: must be a Dublin thing .....

[ROCCO]

REDS WAITING ON TORRES AND GERRARD

Rafael Benitez will give late fitness tests to both Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard before finalising his team selection for Sunday's showdown with Manchester United.
Both players are currently facing a race against time to be fit to take on Alex Ferguson's men after recovering from groin problems.

Torres trained with his teammates on Friday and will be assessed further tomorrow, while Benitez hasn't given up hope of Gerrard recovering sufficiently before kick-off to take his place in the team.

"It's the same situation for both players," he said today. "Fernando trained today and has been working to a specific programme.

"Steven didn't train but we will speak with the physios over the weekend before making a decision.

"It's too soon to say if they will be involved. We will make late decisions with both of them."

Benitez is also hoping Glen Johnson has recovered from a groin injury in time for Sunday's game, but Andrea Dossena and Sotirios Kyrgiakos are still both sidelined.


http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N166185091023-1334.htm

[merc]

but Andrea Dossena and Sotirios Kyrgiakos are still both sidelined.


http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N166185091023-1334.htm


Ah crap the two big names realy are out. Now we have no chance :D

[barrydoherty]

Ah crap the two big names realy are out. Now we have no chance :D

That was the good news that bad news is above :(

Hopefully can get Torres starting anyway plz :)

[General]

I am not convinced bout Kuyts movement but no one can doubt his energy.You might be right about Johnson but I wouldn't have Carra playing right back cause he's getting caught out of position all the time it seems this season.

Dirk plays alot more so obviously he's gonna have more goals and assists than Babel.That's a no brainer.

Even when we have injuries Babel is still a sub and then sometimes still doesn't get brought on.His attitude is questionable sometimes but he hasn't ever had a fair chance.

I remember a time when Kuyt was shocking for months yet started every game and the same goes for a few other people this season.

Babel has pace and power and it's a shame whoevers fault it is that it's going to waste on the bench.

He proved in the corresponding fixture last year that he could rip them scums so called world class defence to pieces so he definitely has the quality.

And in fairness Torres is on a different planet to everyone. :D

Understatement of the decade and gross exaggeration in the same post about the same player!!

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Understatement of the decade and gross exaggeration in the same post about the same player!!

:D

[GaryMc]

Understatement of the decade and gross exaggeration in the same post about the same player!!

He mishit it completely. If he had hit as he meant it would have ended up in Woodison :D:D

Still though, it was like an outer body experience when it hit the net.... :D:D

More of the same this weekend

[Maverick]

The team id like to see is:
--------------------- Reina

---------------------- Johnson Carra Agger Insua

------------------ Mascherano
-------------------- Babel Benayoun

------------------- Gerrard

--------------------- Kuyt Torres

I know it wont happen considering injuries but id like to see 2 strikers up front as more of a threat and Lucas getting a rest for a game as big as this.Some people talk of dropping Carragher,you simply couldnt for a game of this magnitude as these games are won and lost by passion and Carra will have no shortage of that Sunday.

[robbie st leger]

agree on most of that line up but would start with aurelio instead of insua

[SHOWTIME]

Understatement of the decade and gross exaggeration in the same post about the same player!!

How is it an understatement??

He tore Vidic and Ferdinand apart when he came on last year.

I have every faith that he will deliver on Sunday.If Rafa gives him a chance of course!!

He mishit it completely. If he had hit as he meant it would have ended up in Woodison :D:D

Still though, it was like an outer body experience when it hit the net.... :D:D

More of the same this weekend

I couldn't care less how it went in once it did and if he does the same this Sunday and helps us win then happy days!! :D

[locallad]

Will be praying to the Gods that we can get a result and kick on from here, prob wont get to see the game cos no where in Byron bay seems to be showing it!! :mad::mad:

Come on the pool

YNWA

[stalker]

Listen whats with all this analysis and discussion? This is the Granny shagging Mancs. Its not about tactics or who plays where its about about scoring more goals then them and kicking the foook out of Gary Neville. Its about Darts in Manc Eyes, Its about roaring like a mad eejit when we beat the rotten pack of minges and the shit hitting the fan.

http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t340/wiamz/5FA0XK5L_jpg-for-web.jpg

Its about Riise breaking the vile dickheads leg and having a laugh

Pe52mPMtgRM


Its about super Danny Murphy ending years of hurt.

q5h5IWTJKOA

Its about remembering why we're better than them:

1Rfihh4xrjU

And most of all its about them being verminous ****s who deserve a good thorough tonking. **** them ****s.

Ooooh Campione,
The one and only,
We're Liverpool,
They say our days are numbered we're not famous anymore,
But Scousers rule the country like we've always done before,
Ooooh Campione,
The one and only,
We're Liverpool

Wehaay

[ROCCO]

Put your mortgage on shrek playing ....

[kaiser_del]

Put your mortgage on shrek playing ....

yeah im sure that fat f00k will start alright.hopefully someone creases him in the first minute.

[stamullen red]

who is the ugliest **** to ever play for the team from salford past or present


LUKE CHADWICK

[garyc]

Listen whats with all this analysis and discussion? This is the Granny shagging Mancs. Its not about tactics or who plays where its about about scoring more goals then them and kicking the foook out of Gary Neville. Its about Darts in Manc Eyes, Its about roaring like a mad eejit when we beat the rotten pack of minges and the shit hitting the fan.





+1!!! (especially the bit about Neville!!)
:p:p

[ROCCO]

First 200 league games 199 for RAFA ...
..........wins............ %
Daglish.....120.......... 60%
Rafa........113.......... 56.78%
Paisley.....113.......... 56.5%
Shankly....106......... 53% 1+2ND div
Houllier....101.......... 50.5%
Fergie......87........... 43.5%
Wenger....110......... 55
Just hope everybody mainly the owners keep their faith in Rafa .

[mascherIANO]

Theres a special feeling going into Sundays game. I have this great feeling that Anfield will be absolutely rockin.

[vodkacolly]

Theres a special feeling going into Sundays game. I have this great feeling that Anfield will be absolutely rockin.



No doubt. A good result against the scum will give the lads a great confidence boost and I know the kop will give their all. I just hope the playerts do too.

[muller]

First 200 league games 199 for RAFA ...
..........wins............ %
Daglish.....120.......... 60%
Rafa........113.......... 56.78%
Paisley.....113.......... 56.5%
Shankly....106......... 53% 1+2ND div
Houllier....101.......... 50.5%
Fergie......87........... 43.5%
Wenger....110......... 55
Just hope everybody mainly the owners keep their faith in Rafa .

Great stat! I may have to steal it sometime ;)

[MCLOCO]

agree on most of that line up but would start with aurelio instead of insua
ye insua's not ready yet hes good back up shouldnt be starting

[MrsPepe]

My brother just rang me, just after meeting Pepe in Carras, delighted for him, gutted for me, I would give my left arm to meet him:( Went over and said hello and wished him luck for tomorrow. He had his kid on his lap so brother didnt want to ask for a pick.

Me, I would have edged the kid of his lap:D

[ROCCO]

Great stat! I may have to steal it sometime ;)

from todays star

[ROCCO]

Oh...I am a Liverpudlian
I come from the Spion Kop
I like to sing, I like to shout
I get thrown out quite a lot (every week)

We support the team that's dressed in red
A team that we all know
A team that we call Liverpool
And to glory we will go

We've won the League, we've won the Cup
We've been to Europe too
We played the Toffees for a laugh
And we left them feeling blue - Five Nil !

One two
One two three
One two three four
Five nil !

[Molby Is a Legend]

No doubt. A good result against the scum will give the lads a great confidence boost and I know the kop will give their all. I just hope the playerts do too.


Cant be just the kop tho mate the whole ground need to sing, shout, scream, Remind those manc Fooks where they are they are in anfield and they are not going out of it with a point...................

[rev]

Cant be just the kop tho mate the whole ground need to sing, shout, scream, Remind those manc Fooks where they are they are in anfield and they are not going out of it with a point...................

Spot on mate!! I'm expecting the usual 'sshhhh' c*ap in the main stand but feck them!!!

[rev]

Good to see nando, johnson and aquaman training!
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N166187091023-1717.htm

Hopefully Torres & Johnson start tomorrow


Anyone see this??
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/man_utd/8200/football-banter-man-utd-fans-plan-to-taunt-liverpool-with-eric-cantona-masks.html

[stalker]

CU_fhbTIFMQ

Ohh Cantona Masks is it?

And when Liverpool score
You'll hear the kop roar "oh its Fowler
Robbie Fowler"

[SHOWTIME]

Haven't slept a wink all night I am so excited about going to my the match 2day.

Still can't believe I'm gonna get to see to be there.

Am just so excited.My adrenaline is pumping big time.

I want us to win so bad it hurts.

Am setting off soon so anyone else who's goin' today we gotta raise the roof.

We gotta batter them Mancs!!

Liverpool till I die!!

[locallad]

Help!!! Has anyone any idea where I might get todays game online?? Any links at all??

[ROCCO]

Help!!! Has anyone any idea where I might get todays game online?? Any links at all??

MYP2P site Will have about 20+ choices on here .... make sure to have at least sopcast downloaded first ... free download
Liverpool V UTD

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=50973&part=sports

Software
http://www.myp2p.eu/softwareitem.php?softwareid=5&part=software

The lads on RAWK will have plenty of links as well ..

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=244992.new#new

also
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/
http://www.channelsurfing.net/
http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/ {also has sopcast , tvants downloads to view games free }

[locallad]

Thank you so so much Rocco, really appreciate it mate.

[thirty]

wheres the best place in dublin city to watch this match?

[mascherIANO]

Help!!! Has anyone any idea where I might get todays game online?? Any links at all??

go pub maybe?

[D-Red]

wheres the best place in dublin city to watch this match?

The woolshed probably. Everywhere will have it but will be black.

[JFT96YNWA]

Good piece here from dion fanning

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/rafael-benitez-conflict-facing-a-balance-sheet-manager-1924087.html

[Juan]

Im not surprised.... but im absolutely fcuking fuming this morning, at the press. nearly every fcuking paper/so called sports journalists, have been saying that its a make or break game for rafa. all have been slating LFC,and the cnuts are hovering like vultures...hoping and praying that we get beat.
as i said im not surprised....but so many of the stupid fcukers have jumped on the bandwagon.
That sky sports is the fcuking worst of the lot...talk about going over the top:eek:
please win today.

[fermoyred80]

Im not surprised.... but im absolutely fcuking fuming this morning, at the press. nearly every fcuking paper/so called sports journalists, have been saying that its a make or break game for rafa. all have been slating LFC,and the cnuts are hovering like vultures...hoping and praying that we get beat.
as i said im not surprised....but so many of the stupid fcukers have jumped on the bandwagon.
That sky sports is the fcuking worst of the lot...talk about going over the top:eek:
please win today.


Just about to post the same thing myself. I took one look at the papers and put them down and have switched off sky now. Head wreckin shite

[mascherIANO]

Im not surprised.... but im absolutely fcuking fuming this morning, at the press. nearly every fcuking paper/so called sports journalists, have been saying that its a make or break game for rafa. all have been slating LFC,and the cnuts are hovering like vultures...hoping and praying that we get beat.
as i said im not surprised....but so many of the stupid fcukers have jumped on the bandwagon.
That sky sports is the fcuking worst of the lot...talk about going over the top:eek:
please win today.

torres and mascherano are leavin aswell accoring to the papers. even if we win 2day there will be still negativity from the press towards the club.

[edcarroll02]

Good piece here from dion fanning

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/rafael-benitez-conflict-facing-a-balance-sheet-manager-1924087.html

Brilliant article, its refreshing when someone in the media seems to talk sense and not just the usual storm in a teacup nonsense!

My favourite part of course was saved till the end
"If Fernando Torres is fit, Liverpool will beat Manchester United and Benitez's side will be back dealing in figures even the simplest can understand."

Its obviously going to be a bit more complicated than that but i feel that if the defence can finally get it together we'll be in with a chance and perhaps Nando will get the winner but if i'm being honest i think Yossi deserves it so much more.

[Juan]

I never ever watch that sunday supplement,i just seen snippets of it while trying to get any team news from sky sports news.
And it rightly pissed me off. they were like rabid dogs...so great was their hatred of liverpool.
by the way..that dion fanning was sense,amongst all the hysteria.

[walsheman1]

hope to god the lads pass the fitness test!!

[muller]

i'm quite nervous, cant watch the build up as it's just gonna be one criticism after another for us...

[fermoyred80]

I never ever watch that sunday supplement,i just seen snippets of it while trying to get any team news from sky sports news.
And it rightly pissed me off. they were like rabid dogs...so great was their hatred of liverpool.
by the way..that dion fanning was sense,amongst all the hysteria.

They were the same last year with Wenger and now that Arsenal are playing better theres nothing about him, there all full of shite and have to be seen as controversal to get onto that shite sunday show. The problem is that according to them its all Rafas fault whats happening at the moment and fair enough he has to shoulder some of the balme but Jesus 90% of it goes with the Yanks, yet they say nothing about their part.
Sorry for going off topic.

[RedRuairi]

All media looking to fill pages and sell papers.....I'm not even listening to that crap....we do our talking on the pitch (hopefully good talking as well) fingers crossed for today

[MR KING KENNY]

This is our day

[Ron1892]

Couldnt sleep last night..

Last year those two days were the best of my year...The first was my going away party on the saturday we beat them..The second was id only been back from oz a few weeks and we beat the mancs 4-1...

Ive a funny feeling todays our day..Just think Rafa is backed into a corner and he is going to come home fighting and he's going to do it for us today..

reading some of the post above about the newspapers.ill stay away from them today and wont buy any or read any sh*t online...

2-0 today i think...

[Podgecheco]

Im so nervous lads i cant take this anymore!

[elvis]

11/2 Torres first goalscorer,.

This is where it all turns around today lads, keep the faith until its over, then break out the bottle of captains and drink the night away in any pub you like because it'll be manc free tonight.

[travis]

Im so nervous lads i cant take this anymore!

you think your bad I'm shittting it !!!!

[RedMurph08]

Any teams yet???? Cmon RedMen da fcuk!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ron1892]

Torres starts,so does johnson..no stevie...

shrek starts..

was on sky sports 1 there..

[Podgecheco]

Any teams yet???? Cmon RedMen da fcuk!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nah murph im refreshing the main page for it ill put it up the second its on

[Ron1892]

pepe,carra,agger,insua,johnson,yossi,masch,lucas,k uyt,aureilio,torres..

[Podgecheco]

Cheers for the text dunne i just saw it there gerrard not in squad but we have nando at least

[Ron1892]

Cheers for the text dunne i just saw it there gerrard not in squad but we have nando at least

No probs podge...You watching it online or in the pub??

[Maverick]

Judas Owen on bench,Torres a big boost,nerves are eating at me

[RedMurph08]

Cheers for the teams lads

[ronnie10]

Hope to god that yossi plays of torres rather than dirk. like yossi in that role. he'll draw plenty of fouls from the scumbags and maybe a peno. is dirk the penalty taker today

[Podgecheco]

No probs podge...You watching it online or in the pub??

Between minds im on my own here my mate is gone back to ireland, might go to the pub down the road, try and make some friends

[Maverick]

Hope to god that yossi plays of torres rather than dirk. like yossi in that role. he'll draw plenty of fouls from the scumbags and maybe a peno. is dirk the penalty taker today

Torres surely on peno duty today,anybody see Mckenna on sky sports news?He came across well.

[red_shamrock]

Didn't sleep well thinking about this, want this so much. Come on Nando, show us why you're Europes #1 striker.

[bobby benitez]

Im not surprised.... but im absolutely fcuking fuming this morning, at the press. nearly every fcuking paper/so called sports journalists, have been saying that its a make or break game for rafa. all have been slating LFC,and the cnuts are hovering like vultures...hoping and praying that we get beat.
as i said im not surprised....but so many of the stupid fcukers have jumped on the bandwagon.
That sky sports is the fcuking worst of the lot...talk about going over the top:eek:
please win today.

2fm sports news "Liverpool have only won 2 of the last 10 games against Utd"
I love to ram 3 wins in a row down his throat.

[Podgecheco]

I know nando used to take penos for ath. but i dont think hed take one, kuyt or fabio i think

[ronnie10]

Agger would hit one no problem.

[Maverick]

Benitez is going nowhere this season,lets put that to bed and get behind the lads today,its unimaginable to think what 3 pts could do for us today.

[prendy]

c'mon you red men.

vidic is cacking himself at the sight of nando's name on the team sheet.

happy with our team. think yossi will play behind torres.

3-1 with torres getting 2.

[Podgecheco]

God im so nervous im watching the toffees

[Maverick]

God im so nervous im watching the toffees

Would it ever just start!! half an hour seems like an eternity to wait.:)

[muller]

got butterflies at the moment tbh!

C'mon boys, YNWA...

[Podgecheco]

Right im off to the pub, come on the reds we can do this

YNWA

[Maverick]

A smile from Rafa on sky sports hopefully he will be smiling come the final whistle,looks like he has us set up to take the game to them from the off.

[Ron1892]

fcuk me im shaking....

delighted to see yossi playing behind torres..

[Maverick]

fcuk me im shaking....

delighted to see yossi playing behind torres..
I agree he made the best decision possible there.Come on the pool!!!

[locallad]

go pub maybe?

I would have if the bars where open but its 1am in Oz!!!

[Ron1892]

good to see sami back sitting with stevie..

[Don_Corleone]

started well

lets hope we build on that

[Molby Is a Legend]

good first ten minutes

11 red warriors we need out there and i think we are gonna do these

[Ron1892]

dirk should of buried that...well done lucas...

[stevieg05]

Cant afford to be missin these chances!!! Playin well tho

[redeagle]

2-1 utd

[Molby Is a Legend]

FFS Andy gray is doing my nut in here

[Don_Corleone]

we played well in the first half

lets rock on and destroy them at the kop end

[Molby Is a Legend]

They are gonna get every decision in the 2nd half..................

Good first half we had the better chances and i think its only a matter of time before we get one

[RedWally]

Anyone got a stream link?

[Ron1892]

FFS Andy gray is doing my nut in here

one of his quotes...

Evra wasnt given any chance..He was booked straight away...

Andy you blue nose cnut he had 3 tackles and he could be off by now..The second challenge on Yossi was nasty...

The game is simmering up now..

Hope we dont regret not talking our chances..

The performace in the first half was a big improvement..

[Ron1892]

2-1 utd

You fishing here mate???

You must be watching a different game to me..We've had more chances and Van Der Saar has had to make more saves..

[Molby Is a Legend]

one of his quotes...

Evra wasnt given any chance..He was booked straight away...

Andy you blue nose cnut he had 3 tackles and he could be off by now..The second challenge on Yossi was nasty...

The game is simmering up now..

Hope we dont regret not talking our chances..

The performace in the first half was a big improvement..


I was keeping my cool with him up until the kuyt pen incident, He nearly creamed himself when carra made the tackle suggesting that it could have been a pen the when Babytov swings out of kuyt and actually rips his jersey he says it was 50-50 and Kuyt was pulling just as much? FFS andy take your Manc Glasses off and commentate fairly on the game

[StEtienne77]

Anyone got a stream link?

This one is not bad ;
http://site.mynet.com/hdmac/kanal1.html

Jaysus its 90mph out there with tackles flying in. Its gonna go down to a dodgy decision me thinks. Hopefully for us.

[Ron1892]

I was keeping my cool with him up until the kuyt pen incident, He nearly creamed himself when carra made the tackle suggesting that it could have been a pen the when Babytov swings out of kuyt and actually rips his jersey he says it was 50-50 and Kuyt was pulling just as much? FFS andy take your Manc Glasses off and commentate fairly on the game

Kuyt has had his fcuking shirt ripped so does that not suggest a foul andy...he's a clown..

Carra's challenge was class..Lucas is in the thick of it and he looks like he's fcuking loving it...Think we are really up for this today..Playing into the kop in the second half..Hopfully the boys can suck that ball into the net..

[Maverick]

Good performance,hope we can take our chances though, nando is feeling the injury a bit 2,we are still not creating space but were not giving utd anything.it's there for us if we go for it!!

[muller]

we need to keep the pressure on and not give united an inch. Lucas playing well let's hope he keeps it up...

[beardo81]

Hopefully oul whiskeynose doesnt pay the ref a visit a half time, the game is there for the taking. Fabio for all corners and freekicks for me from now on too!!

Cmon the Redmen!!!!

[Don_Corleone]

fook sake dirk

[muller]

need to start taking our chances and be more clinical in the final third...

[Don_Corleone]

yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ss

[Don_Corleone]

torres 1 nil

[Martin88]

Great goal. Come on the pool.