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JobBridge-Internship.Taking the Piss?

Discussion in 'General LFC Discussion' started by Juan, Sep 16, 2011.

  1. Juan

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    A number of companies have been accused of trying to attain slave labour through the Governments JobBridge programme..
    The Latest is Tescos.. who are making so much money in Ireland..that they wont even release their profit results here.
    They are looking for 145 people to stack shelves for a period of six months...
    Tescos wouldnt even pay the min wage for these jobs.....just went all out for slave labour,Disgraceful from tescos,and surely taking the piss out of this scheme.Greedy B@stards.
     
  2. Anfield Old Boys

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    Tesco refer to Ireland as "Treasure Ireland" you don't have to think too hard to see why...Cheap labour for xmas...perhaps a boycott might be in order?
     
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    To be honest mate,there's probably not a big company in the world that you wouldn't find a reason to boycott if you looked hard enough. If tesco are allowed to use these "internships" for menial labour,then I blame the government for allowing it to happen. It was always obvious that companieswere going to exploit this and the government knew it. But they don't care. They'll force people to take these jobs and then claim their initiative is working brilliantly. Thats not to say the companies exploiting it aren't disgusting.
     
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    I looked into this option before it was called the Intership.It was the one where you when on a 6 month placement, and didnt you still got your dole.But as time went on i realised by places were doing it instead of employing staff.I remeber seeing a advert for a petrol pump attendant for 6 months.

    Id have no problem working for free for 6 months in a company where at the end of the 6 months i might have a chance of getting a place in their company.

    So fast forward a year or so and we have this new "Intership" thing, which is the same as i mentioned before except you keep your dole and you get a €50 a week.Again this is a cracking idea in my opinion, until places like petrol stations and people wanting you to clean start posting ad's looking for it.

    If this system was regulated properly i think it would be fantastic.Most places you go to apply for now, need experience, but there is no where you can get the revelant experience in my opinion.
     
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    I totally agree. But how is it regulated. And if they offer someone a placement and they refuse it,is their dole stopped? People might say that's fair enough but there's other stuff to take into account. It could end up costing someone money to take up one of these positions when you factor in stuff like travel costs/petrol,tolls,lunches,clothing etc. And then you've people with kids who might need childcare. I know for a fact that there's a lot more than tesco that's been advertising low skill jobs as internships. The fact that a lot of these made it onto the website that advertises it,would suggest that there's not much vetting being done.
     
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    Maybe what i should have said, was if the likes of Petrol stations and shelf stacking wasnt the jobs been on offer, it would be better regulated.For instance ive a honours degree in Marketing, and i would have no problem going on one of those 6 month placements if it meant i could get a job or experience with them after 6 months.But 6months packing shelves is in no way any use to me.I just think people with relevant Qualifications should be given the chance to get experience in their sector and not somthing like working in a garage.

    This is in no way disresepectful to people who work in these jobs.I just think the likes of Tesco and some other big brands want to cut corners, but not employing full time staff and taken people on "Interships".

    Regarding the Payment issue, it would be a diffcult one to call, as every one case is different.
     
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    ive mixed feelings about tesco because my job relys on them and the missus works directly for them.they are ruthless ****s though they drop suppliers all the time to take on other cheaper options so them doing this doesnt suprise me.an internship should be for the likes of marketing or architects or some sort of skilled job like that not bloody stacking shelves.as regards the government standing up to them thats a laugh because the unions had them in the lrc pursing a pay claim for their staff and the lrc backed tesco over the workers.
     
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    This has been going on for ages, Gov got it wrong with this "jobs inititive" all it leads to is people hiring these interns instead of actual jobs, its stupid.
     
  9. Phil!

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    I work for Tesco part-time. At times they can be good to work for other times not so much. Whatever happens you can be sure they think of themselves first.
     
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    What Tesco are doing is pretty disgusting, fcuk all benefit there for the worker.

    I've employed three people through FAS as part of this new Job-Bridge and the prior Work Placement Programme. Couldnt get any permanent or contractor headcount approved to cover maternity leave so had to look down this road and to be honest its been a win win situation in my experience. All three came in, got great experience here in a multinational shared service center and left for full time employment either before or shortly after the end of the placement. Employers like to see people in current work when hiring and it upskills their CV so it is proving to be successfull in my experience. Its a 9 month period too which can be long. I had an average of 40 cv's sent to me for each position, it was a real eye opener!
     
  11. Juan

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    From another forum...this is most likely a regular occurrence....yet another example of the greed and exploitation by certain employers.

    "I work for a multi-national and last Friday they informed 13 of my work collegues that their positions were being made redundant. They have until January to find another job in the company or they are out. My company has been making workers reduntant in ones and twos monthly, over the last two years, and no mention of this in the media. My problem is that recently the company has been availaing of the jobs bridge/Internship scheme and these candidates have filled all the vacant positions. Is this a clear case of job displacement due to this scheme and can Companies avail of the Jobsbridge/Interns scheme, while making workers redundant?"
     
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    Very poor form by Tescos. The scheme in general seems to be too open to exploitation by some
     
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    People who take part in the JobBridge get an extra €50 a week on top of their welfare payment, this extra €50 is paid by the Government. In my opinion the company should as part of the scheme be made contribute €100-€150. It would stop some of the companys taking the piss.

    No doubt some of the internships are excellent and ideal for someone looking to change career but the likes of Centra looking for people to do deli assistant as an internship is taking the piss a little. That should not be part of an internship for potentially up to 9 months - thats Centra taking advantage of free labour instead of paying some a proper wage. Its effectively taking a job out of the economy.

    A mate of mine says they have taken on a few people over the last year where he works and he has said they haven't kept any of them on after 6 months or so, they just go get someone else in to do the work when they release the others or when the people realise there is no permanent job for them at the end of it and quit.

    It could be a great scheme if only it was policed properly.
     
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    I asked FAS could they arrange a placement on one of these for me in a racing yard as racing secretary as I'd updated my skills and it was perfect for me to get the vital experience I needed and a trainer to get someone with a good grasp of the job for nothing, they laughed at the idea, these schemes are a ****ing scam and need regulating, from the outset the govt knew this shit was happening and promised to clamp down but worse it's getting
     
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    I got a position as a journalist last year and all sorts of promises were made. Had my suspicions as I was replacing someone else who was also on a internship - when my time was up they just replaced me with someone else. Totally illegal i believe, wouldn't mind, loved it at the time but sickening when you know there's nothing at the end of it.
     
  17. stevieg

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    There was an article in the paper today saying something like just over 50% of people who completed their internship got kept on - I think the report was by an independent body too.

    Edit: Just read a response to that article saying the figures where spun by Joan Burton.
     
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    Do the numbers come off the live register while working on this ?
     
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    Was wondering that myself, but the people on it are still getting paid the social welfare so I assuming they are still part of the figures for unemployment seeing as they are claiming it. However the Government could no doubt spin it the other way and that these are people in employment.
     
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    these nmbers come OFF the live register.

    Its the same if you get on a course with Fas or get CE work ( community employment)
     

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