i havent seen a thread if there is already feel free to close this. has anyone been following this? it seems to be gathering momentum. iv listened to a few meetings broadcasted on anfield fm. jay mckenna chaired a meeting in london tonight it included fans from spurs arsenal and yeovil. peter hooton brian reade and david conn spoke at a meeting in liverpool last week. there are plans to go after sponsors and fa meetings between club chairman. personally i think its great. ticket prices are crazy
Sadly I think this campaign will have none or little success. I do applaud all the efforts of those involved. Liverpool supporters will always buy up all tickets available at away grounds because statistically we have the largest away support of any team in the Premier League and that is not set to change.
No thread on modern football but there is one about ticket prices. http://www.irishkop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22128 The whole AMF movement has been growing rapidly in the last few months and I think it's great to see. It was all kicked off by these lads http://www.standamf.com/ starting the fanzine (great reading by the way, I would recommend them to everyone) and I think everyone's been surprised by how fast the whole thing has grown, go to most premier league games now and you will see some kind of AMF banner. There have been a lot of talks, meetings and events about ticket prices recently which seem to be doing alot of good. There is still a lot of work to be done which will take plenty of time and effort but I think if things keep going the way they are it can be done. This tweet from SOS today says it all: “@spiritofshankly: 1000 £40 tickets reduced by £30 to £10 would see LFC 'lose' £570k a year. Just less than £12k a week. A reserve team player's wages.”
AMF isn't just about ticket prices by the way, it's about a whole range of things. The last two fanzines where about safe standing and club ownership
I think your right. The ideas of going after sponsors are good. I'd even go as far as going after players. Great to see fans from different clubs coming together
A Yeovil Town fan told to pay more than £1,500 to take a banner into Wembley on Sunday has slammed the fee as “modern football gone mad”. Having already caught the eye of the television cameras during the npower League One play-off semi-finals, Dan Cabell had hoped to display his ‘Little Old Yeovil…’ banner before kick off between the Glovers and Brentford. However, after approaching both the national stadium and the Football League for permission, the digital printer of Milborne Port was informed, that because of its size, he would have to stump up a four-figure sum. Because the banner – a light-hearted dig at Yeovil’s reputation as a small club – would be passed over supporters’ heads an event organisation company would need to supervise its movement. As a result, Wembley Stadium charge £1,250 plus VAT to cover the contractor’s bill, as well as the cost of a parking space. Mr Cabell said: “Only when the Football League sent us a document on what we needed to do did we realise how much it would cost. It’s just modern football gone mad. “The banner was done in jest because everyone always refers to us as ‘little old Yeovil’ when on the pitch we are not actually that little any more. “It would have been nice to have seen it on Sky again but it’s not going to be. There’s not really a lot I can do because I am not stumping up that amount of money and I don’t think many other people will do it either. “I wouldn’t expect to have to pay to take a flag of any sort into any other ground in the country so why should we have to pay at Wembley?” The incident draws a sorry line under the Mr Cabell’s journey with the banner after he was left pulling his hair out when it was misplaced in the celebrations following Yeovil’s second leg victory over Sheffield United. An appeal via Yeovil Town’s website and the Western Gazette guaranteed its safe return to Huish Park. “One of the stewards at Sheffield United actually said how good it was, but it will have to stay at home,” added Mr Cabell. A spokesman for the Football Association said: “The cost is in place for a contractor that we have an existing relationship with. “They have to bring in a team of eight people to ensure the flag is manoeuvred safely over the heads of fans in the stadium. The cost is to bring in extra man power. “It is something we have to do from a stadium point of view to make sure we are looking after the safety of supporters.”
Borussia Dortmund supporters will be prevented from unfurling a mosaic of the Champions League trophy at Wembley before Saturday's final against Bayern Munich due to health and safety fears. Dortmund's fans are renowned for their imaginative choreography but Uefa and Wembley rules mean a banner cannot be passed between the seats in level one of the stadium and the corporate section in level two, where members of the "Uefa family" will sit. Wembley officials said they have tried to accommodate the requests of both sets of supporters for the showpiece game, the second time the Champions League final has been held at the ground in three years, but could not guarantee that spectators in the corporate seats would take part in any partisan activity. So it was deemed that Dortmund's choreography would breach health and safety conditions, while the gradient of the seats in level five of the stadium is too steep for a giant flag to be unfurled. Daniel Lörcher, a Dortmund supporter-liaison officer, said: "It is very sad for our supporters, there are a lot of regulations and it isn't possible to do a good choreography. We won't do a bad one so it's cancelled. In the middle of the standing area there is the VIP area for non-supporters, if you can't do the choreography here you can't do a whole build. They were planning flags, papers and a whole picture of the trophy. "They didn't finish their plans, they bought material and flags, but they can use it next season for a home match. It's really sad, it's the biggest game for them and they can't do a choreography. There are problems in London that aren't so big here." Dortmund supporters will still carry flags and wear yellow shirts to bring a "yellow wall" from Germany to London. Bayern Munich, meanwhile, will press ahead with their plans for an organised display despite the red tape at Wembley, although their fans admitted there were a number of "hurdles" to overcome and that "the conditions for a successful choreography are catastrophic".
I heard they are holding something in Liverpool on July 6th. Has anyone heard anything regards this and the venue, time etc please?
Am I missing something that has happened, John? Other that the slight reduction this season in the away ticket prices via the subsidy.
What Newcastle have announced today is going to put a lot of pressure on other clubs when the offer is made to them, sadly for us the game is too soon with the game almost sold out but lets hope the club take up the £20 offer next season and maybe next year join them in offering it to other clubs. Hopefully this will have a snowball effect across the league. The income from away ticket sales is so small nowadays in the overall make up of the total income of the club, clubs maybe even able to claw a lot of it back through food and drink sales as people might be willing to spend more in the ground if they've paid £20 for a ticket. If you provide better facilities, which hopefully we will when the expansion takes place, people might elect to.go into the ground early and get a few into ya before the match
I was not aware of that offer. No doubt some of the smaller clubs will take them up on their offer. It will be interesting to see if any of the bigger clubs do this. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ter-united-liverpool-and-arsenal-8867482.html
Spot on dave and as you said the clubs make very little off away tickets so they will make it up with the food and drinks etc and with alot of clubs looking to invest cash into the away end to do it up and make it more attractive for away fans id say alot more will head in early and what they spend will balance up the cheap ticket.
On Friday, Everton became the latest club to announce their plans regarding the Premier League fund for away fans. The fund will see top-flight teams handed £200,000 in each of the next three seasons to make away matches more affordable for supporters. The standout points from the Everton plan are £5 ticket reductions for upcoming trips to Manchester United, Arsenal, Swansea and Stoke, with junior supporters also able to buy a Stoke ticket for just £1 -- a discount of £15. Unfortunately, while the aforementioned points are positive steps, the rest of the planned changes feel slightly superficial and unnecessary -- extra money off tickets is surely preferable to staff in the away end wearing club colours. Simple math reveals price reductions that equate to less than 30% of the £200,000. As pointed out by the Football Supporters Federation -- the group whose protests helped bring about this fund -- ticket prices remain the critical issue. Significant attention to prices should have been the priority for Everton (and many others in this division). Reducing ticket prices is the most effective method for helping supporters on the financial front. An approach undertaken by several clubs is free coach travel; however, though commendable and thoughtful, this will only help those on coaches. Ticket reduction is the best way of ensuring that each travelling fan benefits from this initiative. Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United have committed to discounting all of their remaining away fixtures between £2-£4, while Sunderland will slice £10 off certain fixtures, and clubs such as Fulham, Swansea and Crystal Palace offer deals on tickets. Manchester City seem set to add to their £200,000, with players and coaching staff contributing, allowing season ticket holders to enjoy half-price tickets for selected away matches. Nonetheless, with certain clubs more attuned to the needs of their supporters than others, it is Newcastle leading the way. The North East club look set to offer £20 away tickets, which is the overall aim of the FSF and their 'Twenty's Plenty' campaign. The reciprocal deal allows away supporters to watch their team at St James' Park for £20, providing the visiting team do likewise when Newcastle visit. It will be interesting to see which clubs, if any, match the Newcastle proposal. At present, though, while this fund for away fans is an obvious step in the right direction, it is also a relative drop in the ocean. The cynics will rightly point to £200,000 as paltry when compared to the record TV deal currently pouring into the Premier League, and how this is simply clubs spending money assigned to them -- rather than dipping into their own cash reserves. Moreover, it is vital that this is the start of something bigger. There is still significant work required from clubs and various governing bodies to convince supporters that they are something more than exploitable commodities. After all, individual match prices and season ticket prices rose at Everton this season despite the absurd increase in television money. For the forthcoming Merseyside derby at Goodison, home supporters can purchase a ticket in the Main Stand for the princely sum of £43. At such a price, one would expect optimum viewing, yet £43 is only enough for an obstructed view; almost £50 to sit through 90 minutes with one or both of the goals infringed by a pillar. Elsewhere, there are others teams, including those reducing away prices for the remainder of the season, who undo their own recent gestures by charging booking fees on top of match tickets. Like those exorbitant ticket prices are not enough. As Newcastle show the clearest sign of understanding this concept -- making away matches cheaper for all supporters -- the onus is on the remaining clubs to display similar levels of concern in future. This three-year £200,000 fund is a pleasing start, but that is all it is. http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/everton/id/1648?cc=5739
I see west brom and Swansea have taken Newcastle up on their offer Swansea have also agreed a similar deal with hull