Liverpools Scouting model/structure

With all the restructuring at the club I would have thought getting in the best scouts around the world or even a new head scout like Carr at Newcastle the head scout from Porto/Lyon/udinese or just look at all the scouting structures of all 4 clubs* and see what we can change with ours ?

Personally after all this restructuring going on at present I'd hope that who ever is in charge of scouting has a new blue print on how are scouting is done and Udinese model would be a good start but not the way the players use the club as a stepping stone to a bigger club or that Udinese are happy to sell on as soon as a big profit can be made but how they get the players in the first place .

The way we have signed players for a long time had been lazy and lacking imagination.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/gabriele_marcotti/02/03/udinese.2/index.html

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/ed...ebate-the-story-behind-the-udinese-model-why-

 

Rocco that Carr fella didn't exactly do alot of scouting, all these Newcastle buys were well known full internationals represented by and this is the important bit, Willie McKay, we refuse to deal with that man, and that's why we told Marveaux to do one last summer. Ba who cannot get insurance failed a medical with Stoke last summer, Cisse failed one with Malaga in January,although Cisse is and always has been a super striker bettered only by Mario Gomez in Germany last 3 years, it was hardly an unknown coup.
Cabaye was a French Internstional who Lille fcuked up with his contract given him a €5m buyout, that was a good coup. Tiote is nowhere near as good as Lucas IMO, Ben Arfa is a strange one, ridiculous talent but a mental case who was ran outta 2 French clubs, but for every one of them there's a Marveaux.
Like I said all represented by Willie McKay

Regarding the other clubs, it's much harder to get a work permit in the UK hence a lot of these top south American talents go to Europe on the cheap, Falcao been a good example

 

why do we refues to deal with willie mckay - just curious. dont know much about him

 

Not been smart there's to much to go into for a public forum, google his name there mate

 

I just put Newcastle in as another example of having a Scout that goes to games and has I think experience a manager , I also think Newcastle have got a bit lucky taking risks on Ba and Ben Arfa to name just two.
But to be fair they have taken risks at the right Price than somebody paying big money for the pair now and taking a much bigger risk .
Carr said he had been scouted certain buys at Newcastle for over 5 years and that makes it before he went to Newcastle.
It's the Udinese model that I think we should Looking at and altering to suit us .

I agree with the work permits but isn't there the option of loaning them out to another European club that will also get them more experience hopefully .


My point is more we could be doing better with our scouting structure


I'd be on the same wavelength on all your points , it's a post to see people thoughts on our scouting model and how we think it could be altered or restructured


One reason I think at Porto and Udinese it works is not only the easier work permits and their scouting network at contacts around the world mainly south Amercia is their is much less pressure on the teams than their is with us .

Any player coming to us has the expectations of over 20 Years on their shoulders a few bad games and their shot down

 

I like the link with Uruguay, things like that are the way forward if we can come up with some sort of plan to actually get them into the country.

Reference to Newcastle, loads of luck involved in what they've done. I didn't know Cisse was a crock too until Trucker said it above, but when you take risks like that eventually it will bite you arse. Marveaux hadn't played for the guts of a year and guess what, he hasn't played this year either.

Also like Trucker said its a lot easier for Portugal and Spain to get Brazilians/Argies because of their colonial links, next time the British empire wants to take over the world maybe they should leave countries with shit footballers alone, America, Australia, Northern Ireland etc don't produce to many Messi's

 

and Obertan

 

Is there a scout anywhere in the world that doesn't go to games?

 

I think the link with Uruguay and Nacional is gone since Comolli left

 

was't the Nacional link part of the contract agreement that brought Seb? if so then I doubt they can back out of it just because Comolli is gone. I'd like to see a few more links like that coming in over the next year or so, but I defiantly agree that our scouting network needs to improve, maybe its moving in the right direction now, so figures crossed

 

It's how many times their seeing the player playing than looking at stats on a PC .