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What position will LFC end the 18/19 season in..?

Discussion in 'General LFC Discussion' started by Dub13, Aug 7, 2018.

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What position will LFC end the 18/19 season in..?

Poll closed Sep 7, 2018.
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  1. babbsnads

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    I can't for the life of me understand how he things momentum is a myth? Any example were a team has won a cup he uses just the final for his example, Chelsea were 9 points clear, Arsenal had already won the league etc. Surely the games they won on route could be used to point out momentum was beneficial? Why exclude the champions league from his exercise, either winning football matches is good or bad for momentum or it isn't? The type of matches don't mean much.

    For what its worth I couldn't give a shit about either cup, this season I'm kind of half arsed about the champions league too so he's preaching to the converted in this case yet I still can't agree with him.

    Momentum is what got us into a league title challenge in 2014, it's what won City and Chelsea the league in the last 2 seasons. It's absolutely vital to any team that wants to win the league.
     
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    I don't agree that momentum is a myth either,its a common belief among the stats guys though and Id imagine its because they've a distrust of anything they can't measure.What I do 100% agree with is cup runs have a negative impact on points totals and momentum either positive or negative only exists in players minds. But there's a lot of things that only exist in our minds,pressure and confidence being two more examples but I'm pretty sure nobody would ever claim they're a myth.

    I'm not sure if it was where he was going with it but what I took from it apart from whatever momentum can be gained from a cup run having far less value than measurable benefits like less games, is that there's a line between momentum pushing you along because you keep winning or you're winning because you're better than everybody else. How you gauge that,I don't know and I'm sure they don't have to be mutually exclusive.But the moral to the story seems to be winning a domestic cup won't propel you to league glory, if you're not good enough without it you won't be good enough with it and I think hes right.
     
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    A very long read, but a great article.

    Momentum in the league does not come from momentum in going further in domestic cups, that's his point. And yes, it's based on stats, but that's what I like, and it's what makes better sense than some opinion of "Winning vs Wolves in the cup means you're more likely to beat Man City in the league".
     
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    I think momentum in the league is just confidence in that how you are playing is going to keep getting you over the line. Once your confidence is dented or you stop believing that how you are playing will get you over the line then momentum is gone.
    Cup runs are funny as it is momentum would seem to be based on the any dog can have its day scenario due to one off games and once you believe you can do it once you can do it again, this I feel is also coupled to the nothing to lose scenario for underdog's so is what for me used cause the famous upsets of years ago.
    Looking at momentum being different for one type of competition to the other shows the affect of one on the other is negligible as far as I am concerned. How else can you explain excellent cup runs and even wins with getting relegated.
     

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