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The Search for a New Keeper

Discussion in 'Transfer Forum' started by Dub13, Dec 1, 2015.

  1. Dub13

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    I think we all agree that we need a new keeper, some would say as a direct replacement others for competition. So who would you like to see us go for..? I cant see us doing anything in Jan, Its a difficult enough position to fill at the best of times so in the madness of Jan I don't think we will make any moves.
     
  2. MR KING KENNY

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    tough Q.....theres not that many world class keepers out there, and the one that are at the top clubs.
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  3. Garrett

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    Courtois may become available, if his club gets relegated ;)


    .... Germany would be the first place I'd imagine Klopp would look, if he was on the hunt for a new keeper, but is he ? I thought I had seen something about discussions taking place with Mignolet over a new contract, in recent days.
     
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    Mignolet is to be offered a new contract by the club
     
  5. edcarroll02

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    I have never thought that a keeper was anywhere near our top requirement and I feel no differently now. Not only that but I also think we have an able deputy in Bogdan which I must admit was a surprise for me in the few games I've seen of him this season.

    Anyway I'd rather we focussed everything in transfer window on scoring goals, it's common knowledge at this stage that we have the best defence in the league what with Mignolet having the highest clean sheets in the calendar year 2015 :) but we're miles behind the leaders in terms of goals scored and are actually relying on our defence to win us points right now.
     
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    Klopp did give Mignolet the vote of confidence in his press conference, however I doubt very much he is going to come and say he is buying a new keeper. He is far from the worst keeper in the league, he actually has the most clean sheets (15) in the league this calendar year. My own view though he is not reliable enough to sustain a full season without a few howlers, and if you look at the sides who consistently challenge over last 20 years they had Schmicheal, Van Der Sar, Cech and now even Hart. You seen at United they went through a dip with Barthez even though he is an excellent keeper, he still cost them vital points and he was eventually moved on.

    I reckon though Klopp might give him to the summer to see how he gets on. He is actually still relatively young for a keeper, so room for improvements. His main flaws are kicking distance and unwillingless to come off line. The second one can be improved on, not sure the kicking issue can be resolved though.
     
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    A new keeper would be my first priority. The clean sheets has more to do with the much improved defence than Migs performances. How many years is he with us now and I honestly don't think he's improved one bit. Crap at kicking, distribution, he's indecisive and lacks confidence. I think a better keeper could help with goals by starting counter attack movements etc.

    He isnt the required standard for where the club wants to be.
     
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  8. Garrett

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    Hi,

    When all is said and done, I would rather we put money into buying a betted defender or two, before we go buying a new keeper (assuming we don't have money for everything). Ultimately, I think we get more out of a defender, both in terms of protecting the keeper and elsewhere on the pitch, not to mention the fact that there is a limit to what a keeper can actually stop, when it comes to shots on target.

    Many of us wanted Mignolet out of the club not too long ago, thought he was messing up too much and while thankfully that situation seems to have been sorted out, lets not forget it.... he has his limitations. Arsenal played a blinder when they bought Czech and while he won't have many seasons left in him, he's been a significant step up on what they had. Unless we can buy someone who is a significant step up from Mignolet, then why bother ?
     
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    Reina
     
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    For one split second, I thought that said Rihanna ;) :D
     
  11. Liverpool-law

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    With the way Klopp has the players performing and injuries clearing up, if everyone gets through the Christmas period without any new major injuries, goalkeeper is the only position I would consider strengthening (but who would be available). We have loads of options at the moment. The other night we played like that without Migs, Clyne, Sakho, Henderson for most of it, Benteke, Firmino, Coutinho, Ings, Milner. I love the fact that a few young guys are being brought through. Bringing additional players in now could over-egg the cake. He is doing a good job of keeping everyone happy at the moment. But if a great goalkeeper was available, I think that is an area we could strengthen in.
     
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    I think that we need a new keeper but probably not urgently enough to make a move in Janurary. One player we’ve been linked with, who admittedly I’ve only seen play 5 or 6 times, is Timo Horn and I really like him. He’s only 22 has a low release clause in his contract and he is big and commanding. Seems to be a good shot stopper my only question would be his distribution similar to Mignolet. He is definitely more of a presence than Mignolet and at 22 his distribution still has plenty of time to improve! The question form me would be if Bogdan or Mignolet would leave as a result of his arrival, keeping Mig around with him for a season or so could be a good call.
     
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    Jack Butland looks like a great keeper
     
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    If that didn't underline the biggest weakness in the first team yesterday I don't know. We have reasonable quality around the pitch but confidence at the back stems from the man between the sticks and Mignolet is always a moment away from gifting the opposition points.
     
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    Our Belgian at the other end frustrated me almost as much yesterday. If we had to pick between the two I'd rather a top striker if we could get one.
     
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    I think a decent keeper would get us better results than another striker at the moment. No way we would have been in danger of losing that game yesterday with a decent keeper. Top keeper would be 100% top priority over any other position on the pitch for me, no question.
     
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    A good striker on the pitch yesterday and we would have been in no danger of losing that game either in my opinion.
     
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    A striker missing a chance or playing poorly can just be substituted, it creates nothing like the type of chaos Mignolet does. His mistake yesterday changed the complexion of everything, the crowd went from noisy to anxious, the players went from confident to jittery. The effect a dodgy keeper has can never be understated, defenders defend differently when they don't trust their keeper.
     
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    We were already winning the game ed. Then our own keeper gifts them a goal. We could have easily won that 1 nil without our keeper dropping the ball into his own net.
     
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    He didn't drop the ball into his own net in fairness. I am not defending Simon for yesterday by the way, he was very poor but I actually think that Benteke standing still up front inhibits our play more than Mignolet does but perhaps the game yesterday is a poor example because as you've said we did manage to get ourselves ahead.

    Klopp made some odd comment about the goal not being Mignolets fault and actually being his fault, managers often say unusual things but I would like to know what he meant when he said that. I wonder has he tried to get coax Migs into doing doing things a little differently or if it was just the usual deflection to keep his confidence up.
     

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