Anyone still suggesting Liverpool need a new goalkeeper this summer has not been paying attention http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...gesting-liverpool-need-new-goalkeeper-summer/
A lot of points above that I tend to agree with but for the moment, he seems to be on a upward trend of improvement & I'll be happy to stick with him for the moment with the hope that Loris Karius is getting the same sort of education / improvement so that we have a top class replacement in a year or two which will give Klopp freedom to prioritise other areas. Migs, keep up the good work, son!
Janmatt almost caught him out last night. Be it in next 3 games or next season, he is one mistake away from abyss again. At least though he has not kicked a goal kick out for a corner. Genuinely one of the best things I ever witnessed at a match in my life from Karius against Sunderland
If Mignolet from the past few weeks is the player that we'd have going into next season then I'd be more than happy for him to start next season as our No. 1 but he must understand that performances like last night need to be the norm, dealing with crosses from very physical teams is going to be standard for him until teams realise that they're not going to get much change out of it and start looking at other weaknesses. If I'm the opposition manager right now I'm telling the big lads to get in around him and swing as many balls into the box as possible as he'll make a meal of a few of them but that will stop soon enough if he can command his box as he did last night.
We have been here before, he sticks a run of form together and everything is forgotten about. Over and over we concede from the first shot we face, individually the goals don't look to be his fault but a goalkeeper is there to bail you out occasionally, Stoke is the only the game I can remember really earning us points.
I tend to judge players on current form which is probably his best form since signing and on the season as a whole I reckon it's his best. I agree 100% that last night's performance along with his recent form has to be standard. Patting him on the back for not being shite just won't do. You make a fair point for debating with regards to points won or lost over a season but for me I'm not into picking holes in that. I see a keeper who has saved a few pens, made some outstanding saves and is slowly eradicating the weaknesses in his game that we all know about. He's a fantastic shot stopper. One of the best in league imo. He could however show half a season of this current form and that won't be good enough as one "mig" moment is all the doubters need as minds have been made up which in a way he's only himself to blame for. Being a keeper for a Rodgers or klopp team can't be easy. That's not to excuse him but maybe we're seeing a keeper finally adjusting. Too little too late for most but as I said on current form he'll do for me.
I'm no expert on German football but when klopp took over at Dortmund weidenfeller was goalkeeper and he conceded 37 in 32 games in 08/09 and 42 in 09/10, klopp obviously decided he'd seen enough at that stage and stuck with him and for whatever reason he conceded only 22 goals and 25 goals in the following 2 seasons and they won the league both years. As I said on here a while ago, unless klopp manages to concede an average of less than a goal a game in the PL he won't win the league, 42 goals conceded this year is going in the right direction but still not good enough. If klopp thinks mignolet can improve on that fair enough, hope he's right?
Interesting post, and an interesting observation. John Achterburg is the great survivor at LFC in a coaching capacity. He would seem to be a trusted member of the manager's staff. Read a tweet yesterday that before kick off in the match, Alex Manninger was taking corners and Achterburg was trying to rough Mingolet up in the box as the ball was coming in, would sound like good preparation for the match. Any age similarities between Weidenfeller and Mingolet, that might be relevant?
He was 30 when he had his best season between the sticks in the bundesliga for Dortmund under klopp, mignolet will be 30 next season.
Migs would need a new Pope, a royal wedding and Deirdre Barlow back from the dead to convince some people
Mignolet is a confidence keeper, when he is confident he plays well but when this takes a smack he is all at sea. Still need a new nr. 1 in the summer if we're to progress. He'd make a good nr. 2 though
That sounds like perfect preparation for being a goalkeeper in general and if that's the first time that he's used these training methods then it might actually highlight that the goal keeping coach isn't really up to much at all. But hopefully it's just a coincidence that the tweet was sent before this match in particular and this is a standard part of their training on a regular basis.
No I've definitely seen reference to him doing those exercises with him before matches before this weekend.
Yeah there has been pictures going around of Achterburg tackling the keepers with a rugby tackle bag as a cross comes in for a good while now.
They've been doing that for a long time using rugby pads in training and Achterberg was actually being hammered when it first came out for using it as a method,many calling it "embarrasing".Personally I found the campaign against Achterberg embarrassing but any day now the same people will be out in force to praise him for Mingolet's form because football supporters if nothing else are generally fair and consistent.
To be fair why credit him now and not blame him for 5 yrs of shite keeping under his watch. I've been one of Mignolet biggest critics but he has definitly been excellent lately one of our best players since christmas. The fact remains something went major wrong in relation to liverpool for 5 yrs. Im greatful at the moment it looks fixed and both Mignolet and Acherberg and anyone else involved deserve huge credit. Hopefully they both keep it up next season or 2 then I would happily say I was wrong as im sure every critic will. I would also note if the keepers go backwards again both should and prob will be shown the door.
I'd think there is a correlation in his up turn in form and the fact he has some genuine competition for his place now. When the alternatives for your position are Brad Jones and Adam Bogdan you know you're unlikely to get dropped. Klopp went out and got an alternative and in turn Mignolet had a point to prove.
That's the point mate,I'm not crediting Achterberg now for Mingolet's form because I wasn't blaming him for his bad form.It's 30 years of shite goalkeeping by the way(so about a quarter of a century we can't pin on Achterberg)and 3(or 4?) different managers who all think he's a very good coach. There's a lot of issues a goalkeeper has to overcome to be a success for Liverpool that a goalkeeping coach can't fix for you.The fact so many managers who see the work he's doing everyday didn't think he was the problem suggests to me there's a very large chance he isn't. People's certainty that he was the problem was based on the most simplistic equation to what's definitely a complex issue didn't sit well with me.A campaign for a man to lose his job from people with a fraction of the information required to be as certain as they were while ignoring the views of 3 or 4 people who've spent their lives in football and watched him every day was just plain wrong imo.