I'd agree with you to a degree but your point about not producing a midfielder since Keane tells me everything. As a country we've been brought up to expect long periods of pressure, lump the ball from the back, don't get fancy in the middle and try work set pieces as well as you can. As soon as the English clubs opened the door to foreign players in the early to mid 90's we had no real way to develop players and relied on finding scraps from the English setup (admittedly we'd look a different prospect now had we nabbed Declan Rice and Grealish but we should be trying to develop guys like this) and no ambition at an international level to do anything except keep trying the boom bust of making a tournament whatever way we can to make the thing look successful and the FAI can get all the nice photo ops at the big tournies. I don't accept that strategy was ever going to be successful long term and I don't think it's what we should do going forward. Let's build an identity from the top that we want to play football and get the development systems fitting in with the way we expect them to play later on. So yes we definitely need a bit more pragmatism from our manager, there's nothing to be gained from just consistently losing but we can't go back to just accepting that we're crap at football and hoping that good footballers might arrive at some point, we need to create these new footballers and the whole thing needs to work together.