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Premier League Television Rights 2019/20 - 2021/22

Discussion in 'General LFC Discussion' started by redabbey, Feb 13, 2018.

  1. redabbey

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    Premier League has just announced

    Package A: 32 matches on Saturdays at 12:30 BT

    Package B: 32 matches on Saturdays at 17:30 Sky

    Package C: 24 matches on Sundays at 14:00 and eight matches on Saturdays at 19:45 Sky

    Package D : 32 matches on Sundays at 16:30 Sky

    Package E: 24 matches on Mondays at 20:00 or Fridays at 19:30/20:00 and eight matches on Sundays at 14:00 Sky

    Package F: 20 matches from one Bank Holiday and one midweek fixture programme To be decided

    Package G: 20 matches from two midweek fixture programmes To be decided
     
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    Package F and G does that mean all matches on during the midweek will be available on TV? Happy with only 8 Saturday night games. Nightmare logistic wise and trying to stay sober if travelling early
     
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    Yes, that is exactly what it means. The EFL are doing the exact same thing with the midweek rounds in their next TV deal but also allowing clubs for the 1st time to broadcast those midweek rounds themselves to subscribers.

    While the maximum number of Saturday matches will be a total of eight games per season. There is nothing to stop Sky technically showing one team five times in this slot (but very unlikely.) This season if that slot was available to Sky it would have been used by them prior to the early rounds of the Champions League midweek games. This was where quite a few of the five Champions League clubs had matches that were not available on UK Tv. The press release makes no mention of Ireland. This is the usual form from the Premier League but somehow in Ireland the exact same games as is on in the UK always are shown by the same broadcasters excluding the separate deal for 33 3pm matches.

    This is also the first Premier League auction that the main broadcaster is paying less that previous.
     
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    Paying less wow! Surprised at that..
    How do you think the last two packages will go ? Was reading about Amazon or the likes been interested? Are we getting to a stage where it could be available only online and not through the traditional television set? Super info by the way cheers
     
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    This has been predicted and could be a sign that the TV revenue is not sustainable. It’s not a massive drop on previous but bucks the trend of insane increases
     
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    I think the last two packages will be split between Sky and BT. Or BT get both.

    Even if Amazon did get the rights they would have to make the games available on every platform and not exclusively online. I don't think there is any value for a broadcaster like that coming in to the market as the rights are not worldwide. But we will have to wait and see.

    Kudos to you Gary, you predicted it. I thought myself that there might have been a very modest increase. One very interesting thing is the cost per match for Sky/BT is now very similar despite BT not having one 1st choice pick in the package that the won for Saturday mornings. Currently Sky pay a massive amount more than BT per match.
     
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    In fairness Lionel, I was only repeating what i heard on sports business podcasts over the last year
     
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    Finger on the pulse as always. What will be very interesting is how the stockmarket reacts to this announcement in the morning.
     
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    Lads I'm totally hopeless on all of this but are the packages for Ireland completely separate to all of this?

    Looks like BT are the big losers here so far with only 32 games in total.
     
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    The Press release only mentioned the UK. But the Premier League are the most un-brexit sellers ever. The Irish rights have always mirrored the UK rights exactly since the PL started except for the separate package for Ireland of the 33 matches at 3pm on Saturdays.

    Even when BT Sport won the rights from UEFA for the CL there was no mention of Ireland but if you get BT Sport in Ireland you get all their CL coverage.
     
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    Off topic but what's the podcast out of interest?
     
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    It’s a boy called Andrew Brandt. It’s American one. He used to be an executive with Green Bay Packers and is always talking about how much big time sports like NFL, Premier League and Others rely on tv money. With illegal streaming and the fact millenials are so used to short videos, they are not into watching full live games so viewing figures are away down. Nowadays people pay 10 a month to Netflix to watch all their TV shows and are not paying massive cable bills for a host of channels with loads of ads during tv shows. He reckons same model will happen for sports and you already see Sky moving slightly to that model with specific sport channels.
     
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    Martyn Ziegler reported in The Times last Wednesday that according to the Premier League tender document for the broadcast right's that one of the midweek games on both theTuesday and Wednesday night will have a 7:30pm kick off and one an 8:15pm kick off. The thinking being than an armchair viewer will be able to see one match in full and 45mins of a 2nd match.
     
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    I would have thought the 3pm Saturday games must be an independent deal.

    I'd love to see this package with a different broadcaster to Sky, as I feel Sky often only use the Irish 3pm Saturday slot to help meet their overall requirement of showing each club a minimum number of times per year.
     
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    That is not true Garrett the Irish package has it's own completely independent quota system which even with a different broadcaster would still apply. Next Saturday the Liverpool v West Ham is the 3pm showing in Europe but not in Ireland.
     
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    I didn't realise they were bringing in Sat Night games from next season, thats a bit of pain, and if its 8 this year, its only likely to increase in the following years, its less and less 3pm games every year.
    So on F and G, are you saying we will be able to select which game to watch, like via the red button?
     
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    No these changes are coming in the season after next. The Premier League always announce the awarding of the domestic contract about a year and a half before the changes come into effect.

    Yes, without knowing the exact way it would work, or whether this option would be available on every platform.

    Something similar is happening in the EFL the season after next for midweek Championship games where the club's will be able to sell the games themselves for online broadcasting if Sky (the only broadcaster) is not covering the match live.
     
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    Lionel,

    What is not true - the suspicion I have about Sky using the Irish 3pm slots for their own advantage, in order to meet their quotas ?

    You mention that you believe there's an entirely different quota for Ireland, but if Sky have both that quota and other quotas, are you sure they can't be amalgamated ? If so, why ?

    I've tried to get some clarity out of Sky on this, but they are not budging and yet if we look at the fixtures they show on the Irish 3pm slot over the season, very few would appear to significant numbers of Irish viewers.

    The example you give about the hammers game is great, but that refers to Europe v Ireland, rather than Ireland & UK broadcasts.
     

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