Okay so you didn't pick my point up so it's shed a bit of light if im honest. You riddled Honda's point about Dublins run of Leinster titles before the GAA injected steroids into Dublin. I'm being very presumptuous here but I reckon I know more about that run, how they were won and what it took to win them than you do as its coming across that you're not that arsed in the aspect of all things on field both now and historically. Off the bat you wrote that valid point off without any valid reason but to suit your argument. Cyclical in this instance is something that happens in every sport. Have a look at other province's historically and if you blank that off as whataboutery then that's on you. You'll be at a loss every year mate and to this end I'll leave you to it.