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Cheltenham 2017

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  1. dk.lfc

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    Less then 3 weeks to go.

    Lot of big names out. Not a huge gambler but love the festival.

    Anyone going ? Or any tips or fancies ?
     
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    I'm going the Tuesday any frebies welcomed!!
     
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    Found out last night it's on TV3. they'll have a 20 minute break between the races no doubt
     
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    I've been a good few times Shane, the roar before the supreme on Tuesday would make the hairs on the back of your next stand up, love it.
     
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    Cheltenham preview night Larry Tomkins Sports Bar Cork

    Panel : Enda Bolger (EB), Nina Carberry (NC) , Tony Mullins (TM)

    Supreme Novices
    TM -> Has a friend that does sectionals and said Bunk Off Early’s sectionals were ‘amazing’. Melon too inexperienced. Moon Racer the reliable one
    NC -> Very negative about Melons jumping
    EB -> Very sweet on Moon Racer (Mentions course form not for the only time tonight) will get up the hill

    Arkle
    All the panel select Altior, Tony Mullins gives an each-way shout for Charbel then goes off on a tangent defending Nico De Boinville as a jockey re ride he gave Coneygree…

    Champion Hurdle
    EB -> Yanworth a funny horse to get a handle on but has been laid out for this race
    NC -> Likes Petit Mouchoir but sees the value at 14/1 about Tombstone
    TM -> Absolutely says Limini wins!! equates her to Faugheen!!!! BUT says she’s at her best fresh and is not sure that the race against Apples Jade isn’t too close to the festival. Says Yanworth won’t beat the ambulance home, ran like a piebald the last day !!!

    Mares Hurdle
    First all NO mention of Limini!!
    NC -> Willie wins bu Vroum Vroum not at 100% after last race
    TM -> Backed up what Nina said re last time out saying Vroom Vroom and a bad blood count. Says at her age Apples Jade has had too many hard races this season
    EB - > Vroom Vroom Mag

    NH Chase
    NC -> If she could ride one in it - Alpha Des Obeaux. Agenieinabottle a leary lazy type but has been aimed at this
    TM -> Mouse always has then ready
    EB -> Edwulf the pick of JP’s and Derek O’Connor rides

    Neptune
    Not much was discussed about the Neptune, Tony Mullins liked Bacardys and then went off on a tangent about how people were doubting how successful Willie would be this year, he reckoned he will have a ‘savage year’

    Champion Chase
    Douvan has to fall twice to lose this. Not a whole lot of time spent.

    Cross Country
    EB -> Cantlow was 18lbs worse off last time out against the French horse meets on level weights. Gave Cause Of Causes as a dark horse, Mark Walsh has the choice (Cantlow/Auvergnat) Adrian Heskin rides the other and Derek O’Connor definitely rides Colour Squadron
    NC -> Cantlow a worthy fave but very competitive, gave Usuel Smurfer as a big price that won’t be far away.
    TM -> Enda wins

    Bumper
    EB -> Connections very sweet on Western Ryder
    TM -> Says Carter McKay is Willie’s best but questioned its tail-carriage last time out.
    NC -> Mentioned a horse of Jonjo’s that won at Chepstow last time out… have to google that one
    It was mentioned that of all the horses Willie lost to Gigginstown, Blow By Blow was the one he would miss most

    JLT
    TM -> Yorkhill the bet of the meeting
    NC -> likes Disko but not good enough here
    EB -> Yorkhill loves going left, Ruby hugs the rail the whole way round

    Ryanair
    At this point Un De Sceaux’s owner came up to the stage. Waxed lyrical about UDS but!!!! said he will NOT WIN IF THE GROUND IS GOOD!!!! Also said forecast is for rain for the next 10 days there so was optimistic BUT when he said about the ground you could hear a pin drop!!
    NC -> Said that that owners run Empire Of Dirt here could be a tip in itself
    TM -> Dismissed bounce factor with Uxizandre said its been trained with race in mind

    Stayers
    All of the panel keen on Uknowhatimeanharry
    TM-> commented that he reckons Nichols Canyon is gone at the game,
    NC -> Not much of an Irish threat in this
    EB -> Said Barry Geraghty holds UNWIMH in highest regard

    Mares Novice
    Panel split here
    NC -> No faults in Airlie Beach and can’t see it beaten
    TM -> Lets Dance has the proven class and Airlie Beach is just an improver so far
    EB -> Would love to see Airlie Beach win as a shout out to Kilbeggan
    TM -> Never underestimate the strength of a second season novice

    Triumph
    TM -> No fxxxing interest!! can never work it out !! move on
    NC -> Master Blueeyes impressed her last time out.
    EB -> Loves Defi as a course and distance winner and said Barry Geraghty was very sweet
    Take this with a pinch a salt but someone on the panel said that Charles Byrnes had said that Defi Du seuil was a BANKER!!

    Albert Barlett
    Got the panels interest big time as a great race!!
    TM -> Hopes Death Duty wins, also gave Penhill as a horse that bled at Killarney and then came out next time and won by half the track
    NC -> Thinks the world of Death Duty
    EB -> Knows Death Duty well. Best of Irish staying novices, ticks all the boxes

    Gold Cup
    NC -> An open Gold Cup but very keen on Native River but it has had a hard season
    TM -> Native River a bit to find on ratings!! Couldn’t believe what Paddy Brennan did with Cue Card last year, to have him switched off most of the way around and then pull him out and set him alight 3 from home!! No for Outlander. Don Poli to finish 3rd, 4th or 5th
    EB -> Likes Native River but really fancies Djakadam

    Fox hunters
    EB -> On The Fringe like a pet to him, is there to be shot at but is spot on after the blow-out at Leopardstown last time out.
    Panel -> Huge negative for Wonderful Charm on account of its wind problem…
    End gave Staker Wallace as a hunter to watch for the future..

    Handicap Bets
    EB -> Whatever Jamie Codd rides in the Kim Muir
    NC -> Southfield Royale

    NAPS
    TM -> Yorkhill
    NC -> Death Duty
    EB -> Death Duty

    Value Bet
    TM -> Bunk Off Early
    EB -> Whatever Jamie Codd rides in the Kim Muir

    Charity Bets
    Came after questions and all the panel agreed how quick Cheltenham dries out so pay special attention to going and weather
    TM -> Yorkhill
    NC -> Death Duty
    EB -> Djakadam



    Lismore Cheltenham Preview Night



    Panel :
    Tony McCoy (TM)
    Davy Russell (DR)
    David Casey (DC)
    Alan King (AK)
    Noel Cummins (NC)
    Henry De Bromhead (HD)
    Carl Llewellyn (CL)

    Night started off with Richard Phillips doing MC, as Mike Cattermole & Alan king were late arriving “Got stuck in UK”, Phillips was very good at MC & got all the panel messing & slagging each other.
    McCoy hinted at numerous times during the night that he will be riding at the festival, to which DR replied “He’ll definitely do 11st 12Lb”, David Casey said McCoy could ride there alright, but he won’t get colours big enough to fit him !

    Tuesday


    Supreme Novice :
    TM – Defi Du Seuil & Charlie Parcs will defo not run here. He likes Moon Racer, if he gets there he is the one he would be backing, as he has the form. He has beaten Ballyandy. And he also has course form.
    DR – Melon being fav for this is an absolute joke. He is a lovely looking horse, but being fav after 1 run, this shouldn’t be. He thinks Finian’s Oscar should run in this. Said he has no ride in this yet, then said “We have nothing going in this have we Henry” (to De Bromhead). HD replied, he has Capital Force entered in this but the reason Davy has no ride in this is because he made a balls on him the last day ! Said he will ask David Mullins & if he can’t then Davy has a chance !!!!
    DC – Melon is very good, they really like him, but he beat little in Leopardstown the last day. He has heard that they are struggling to get Moon Racer fit & ready for the day & thinks he will miss the festival. Bunk Off Early is better Value @ 8/1.
    NC – Melon won’t be fav on the day, said his owners are very lucky & will be 5/1 on the day. Ballyandy will go off fav & he would be his choice.
    HD – He runs Capital Force, needs good ground & a good gallop. EW chance. Ballyandy is his choice as winner.
    CL – Melon is inexperienced. Ballyandy very solid.

    Arkle :
    TM – Altior is a good thing.
    DR – Yorkhill should run here. He rides Ordinary World, will ride him for a place. Altior is the best in it without Yorkhill.
    DC – Yorkhill will go to the JLT. Royal Caviar will run in this, but will be running for a place. The hill might not suit him.
    HD – Will run 3 in it. Identity Thief will not run. Ordinary World would probably be his pick of his 3, but they are very hard to choose between as they are all rated pretty much the same. Altior is the winner.
    CL – Altior wins if he jumps. Ordinary World EW.

    Champion Hurdle :
    TM – Yanworth is best on official rating, but his jumping isn’t the best at times. My Tent Or Yours very good EW bet. Will defo beat The New One.
    DR – Impressed by Yanworth & Buveur Dair. Brain Power not good enough for this. Petit Mouchoir very solid.
    DC – They have until 8th March to supplement Limini & will wait until then to make decision. VVM is a lot better now than when she returned from Doncaster, and coming back to herself.
    AK – King & Cattermole arrived just at this point. Cattermole said that on the 6hr journey acros King was constantly on about Yanworth to him. King said he is really looking forward to him running.
    NC – VVM is the form horse.
    HD – He is completely focused on Petit Mouchoir at the moment & he is really happy with him.
    CL – Yanworth isn’t a great jumper & Buveur Dair is his choice to win this.

    Wednesday


    Neptune Hurdle :
    TM – Neon Wolf impressed him a lot. Said Harry Fry is constantly on about this horse & thinks he is the best he has had. Bacardys EW.
    DR – Death duty would defo win this, but they gonna go for AB with him. Thinks Lets Dance is being overlooked for this & has a chance.
    AK – Big Neon Wolf fan. Thinks Finian’s Oscar is one to take on. Thinks his form is not good enough. He runs Messire Des Obeaux here and has an EW chance.
    After discussing the race a bit and just before moving on, King then says that he is just after remembering something he had heard earlier & Neon Wolf was entered on Friday & Might skip Cheltenham in favour of Aintree. Said the owners don’t care too much for Cheltenham. Said he had a horse a few yrs ago for the same owners & he had to beg them to run it at Cheltenham.
    NC – Impressed with how Bacardys won the last day. Patrick gave him a great ride. Rode him patiently.
    HD – He has Monalee entered and he really likes him. Said he will avoid Death Duty wherever he runs. If DD turns up here Monalee will go for the AB. Russell also ploughed in with his liking for Monalee. Most likely run here as he is surprised they are leaning towards the AB for Death Duty as he thinks he would defo win this as he has the class.

    RSA Chase :
    TM – Coney Island has impressed him a lot. Said he had an issue LTO & prob the reason he was beaten. Said he is better again now. Said if he owned American, he would run him in the 4 miler. Likes Mite Bite also.
    DR – Will ride Whisper providing they avoid Yorkhill by running here. Said whisper likes a bit of juice in the ground. But he isn’t overly ground dependent. Likes the course. Said Mite Bite is by Scorpion, Cattermole asked what does that mean – Davy made the puking sound, like he won’t like the hill !
    DC – Was asked what do they think of this race. He said, not a lot. They will run Bellshill, but he has been to Cheltenham twice and hasn’t run his best. Thinks the track might not suit him. Said he likes Whisper if he runs.
    HD – Likes Bellshill. Said they ground will be in his favour. Said the soft ground he has been running on doesn’t suit him. Said trip is ideal & doesn’t think it is the track that is the issue. Said the 2 times he has run at Cheltenham the trip was too short & that’s why he didn’t show his best. Has Herons Heights entered in this, but most likely will run him in a handicap, depending on the mark he gets (Seems to fancy him for a handicap IMO).
    CL – Thinks the top 2 are very short. Likes Whisper & also thinks Disko is very tough & consistent.


    Champion Chase :
    TM – Douvan is exceptional & jumps like a champion chaser should. Low & fast over fences.
    DR – No Contest. Absolutely loves Douvan. Thinks he is exceptional.
    NC – Asked “Who rides Douvan” gave a grin, suggesting Ruby will knock him !
    AK – Thinks there is a disconnection between Ruby & Douvan. Said if you look at his last run, he came out of Ruby’s hands a few times.
    HD – Special Tiara will go a good lick, prob set it up for Douvan. But he is good value to be 2nd to him.

    Bumper :
    TM – Daphne Du Clos is best of British. But is only a 4YO.
    DC – Will only run 3 in it. Ballyward will not run. Patrick will ride Carter Makay. Start of the yr they thought their bumper horses weren’t too good, but as they all started to run they realised they aren’t too bad after all.

    Thursday


    JLT Novice Chase :
    TM – Cannot see Top Notch beating Yorkhill. Yorkhill very impressive last yr to win in Aintree. Never seen a horse to pull so hard all the way through a race and still win the way he did.
    DR – Yorkhill
    DC – Yorkhill is very good. Trip suits. He is top quality, has huge ability & will take a lot of beating.
    AK – Top Notch fan & surprised if he is not in shake-up.
    NC – Yorkhill the one to beat. Disko has a chance if he runs.
    HD – Yorkhill hard to beat.
    CL – Sam Twiston-Davis is a poor judge and he thinks Politologue is a good thing. Said to completely rule this lad out.

    Ryanair Chase :
    TM – Would love to ride Uxizandre in this. Said the last time he rode him, the speed he shown was unreal. Thinks UDS is a slow horse & wouldn’t have him.
    DR – Could ride Zabana in this race. He is entered in 2 at festival (Casey said, make sure you face him the right way this year!). Uxizandre is the best value bet of the meeting.
    DC – UDS likes a bit of cut in the ground, said a bit of juice in the ground will help him. Said he is in good form & the trip is ideal for him.
    AK – Uxizandre is very well in himself at the moment. He needs to go left handed. He exceeded his expectations the way he ran the last day & he worked very well on Saturday last.
    NC – Likes Empire of Dirt & is a big UDS fan.
    HD – Will run Sub Lieutenant in this. Didn’t say anything on him, just that he runs. There was a big cheer suggesting this has a big chance – Gigginstown in Ryanair !
    CL – Joses Hill is a big girls blouse. Likes both UDS & Uxizandre. Uxi is good value.

    World Hurdle :
    TM – Unowhatimeanharry impressed LTO. Jezki definitely runs in this & great EW bet.
    DR – Unowhatimeanharry is the bet of the meeting. Cole Harden EW.
    DC – Nichols Canyon will probably wait for Punchestown. VVM could run in this but more than likely run in the mares. Thinks Jezki is the one.
    AK – Cole Harden EW
    NC – Shaneshill
    CL – Cole Harden EW – Has had a wind op & the good ground will suit him. Unowhatimeanharry is no value. Jezki great value.




    Friday


    Triumph Hurdle :
    TM – Defi Du Seuil is a very good jumper & fears Mega Fortune the most.
    DR – Rides Mega Fortune. He stays the distance, soft ground would be better but not very ground dependent.
    DC – Defi will be hard to beat. Irish form isn’t strong. They are all beating each other. Meri Devie ran well the last day & is the best of Mullins’.
    AK – Master Blueyes has a huge chance. He wants it dry. Very sweet on him. Said he was always a Triumph horse & don’t mind Tom ? He knows **** all & was never gonna run in Fred Winter. Has been working unreal well the last month.

    Albert Bartlett Hurdle :
    TM – West Approach, his run the last day was very good form. Death Duty should go for the Neptune, thinks trip will catch him out.
    DR – West Approach, Wholestone lacks the class for this race.
    NC – Agusta Kate. Monalee was very good LTO in Clonmel.
    HD – Monalee has a great chance if he runs in this – Depends on where Death Duty goes ( Avoiding him).
    CL – Wholestone lacks the class for this race. He has had a problem since his last run.

    Gold Cup :
    TM – More Of That is ok after his fall the LTO. He is back running to his best form from 2 yrs ago lately. Has an ew chance. Outlander is improving all the time & is his choice. Thinks Djakadam is a big player too and his prep this yr is a lot better.
    DR – Worries about Cue Card. Sizing John is an unknown quantity & dunno about the trip. Djakadam has been freshened up & great decision not to go to Leopardstown with him & prep this yr is spot on. Don Poli is slow & he gave him a lot to do last yr in it. Outlander probably just gets the nod in front of Djak.
    DC – Djakadam has a huge chance this yr. Doensn’t like Cue Card. Thinks Native River hasn’t improved enough. He won off 150 & ran off 150 again & only beat Raz De Maree by 1.5l. Thinks More Of That will run a big race.
    NC – Cue Card won’t stay the trip. Emptied out very quickly in Ireland last yr. He is on the Djakadam bandwagon, but it is a poor renewal.
    AK – Native River rock solid, but Cue Card coule be the class act in the field. Fancies CC.
    HD – Champagne West is in great order. Will love a test of stamina. Won well off 154 in Thyestes. Djakadam won Thyestes off 145 and has run well in GC, so thinks he has a great chance.
    CL – Bristol De Mai has no chance unless it rains. Fancies Djakadam.

    Handicap Tips :


    TM – Beauvreuil & Bloody Mary
    DR – Diamond King (Brown & Advisory) – Good Ground
    DC – The Storyteller (Martin Pipe)
    AK – Dino Velvet (Fred Winter) & Label Des Obeaux (Ultima)
    NC – Ballyandy (Coral) – King & Cattermole started to skit at this.
    HD – The Storyteller (Martin Pipe)
    CL – Foxtail Hill (Close Brothers Novice Handicap – Tue)

    Charity Tips :


    There were stipulations here. McCoy had to pick JP handicap horse. Russell had to pick something he was riding. Casey had to pick a Mullins horse & De Bromhead had to pick one of his own.
    TM – Said €50 ew on Jezki – World hurdle. Paddy Power representative said it had to be a handicap horse. McCoy said he didn’t know what was goin in handicaps & after a few minutes he stood up & took out money out of his own pocket & said he will have €100ew of his own money with William Hill on Jezki.
    DR – Had his €50 ew on Ordinary World in Arkle. Said he will creep around on him & finish 3rd @ 50/1.
    DC – Had his €50 ew on Agusta Kate in Albert Bartlett.
    AK – Had €50 win on Master Blueyes – Triumph
    NC – A Genie In Abottle - €50 win – 4 miler
    HD - €50ew – Petit Mouchoir – Champ Hurdle
    CL - €50 win Defi Du Seuil - Triumph
     
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    Coney Island gone today too.
     
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    Went through all the races the other day and some amount of big names out.

    Altior 2/7 and Douvan 1/4
     
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    I've done Gordon Elliot to win 5 or more races whilst under the influence, has he got a chance?
     
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    I would say he had a chance for sure. What price was that?
     
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    Trim castle hotel cheltenham preview

    Gordon Elliot GE
    Gary O Brien GOB
    Davy Russell DR
    Robbie Power RP
    Matt chapman MC
    Paddy power trader


    Supreme
    GOB melon too short.. likes movewiththetimes.

    DR melon ridiculous price. Won't b that on day. Moon racer and ballyandy solid.. links with movewithtimes form. Finians oscar wud win if he ran here. Slowest ground of week will suit. DR also sed melon will get sick when he sees hill looking at his breeding.

    RP don't touch melon. Word is he wud beat bunk off early from Mullins yard however.. Moon racer is the bet in a sub standard supreme.

    GE thinks Finians oscar has
    No chance.. spoke to pipe and doesn't know MRs target. Movewithtimes for him at 10/1 now.

    MC wud stick with melon if money came on day.. but open race


    ARKLE
    DR can't understand why yorkhill doesn't run in arkle.
    GE said altior wins. Charabel will be 2nd he thinks.
    Every1 else said altior and will only watch.

    Champion hurdle
    DR limini wouldn't win if she ran. Petit mouchoir can win as he will improve for better ground and stays further .. wud back him.
    He likes brain power sneaking in under radar. Basically he's undecided and it's very open ..

    GOB likes petit mouchoir in a poor champion hurdle. Hidden cyclone winning today boosted his form. Brain power also....
    DR said the way PM will be ridden to suit. Which others didn't agree

    GE would like to train PM but worries about him being ridden in front and footpad got too close last time. He likes yanworth. Delivers consistently.

    Robbie power said jezki runs in stayers. Beauvair dair for him... yanworth the danger. He said if it's soft yanworth would be the bet and beauvair dair on good ground.

    GE said apples jades wouldn't get near these in champion hurdle so can't have limini.

    MC likes beavair dair. But a top handicapper like brain power can mix it with majority of theee as majority are grade 2-3 horses.

    Neptune
    RP said Elliot should run death duty. So does DR and said he's best novice hurdler around. Plenty of class. Wud win Neptune but doesn't know bout AB .. he could be exposed.
    Elliot cut him off and said u worry about riding them and I'll train them If DD doesn't run.. DR likes Finians oscar.

    GOB likes monalee at 12/1 now. Won't be that on day.
    PP enhanced Finians oscar 6/1
    Neons wolf for MC he's a machine.. so does Robbie power.
    Elliot not sweet on neon Wolfe... likes monalee massive chance.
    Fears this horse of running against DD.... likes Finians oscar.


    RSA
    DR rides whisper. Not that confident on him. Mite bite by scorpion... habit of being disappointing.. likes alphes des obeaux. On hurdle form v good. Mouse Morris great trainer for chelt.. not a strong RSA..
    GE likes mouse horse also. Massive fan at the prices. Doesn't like mite bite ..
    RP can't have alpha des obeaux as he burst last day can't have him. Likes might bite on good ground.
    If ground soft... acapella bourgeois has a big chance.
    DR said AB needs testing ground. des Cahill told DR today it wud b good weather at chelt. DR said trainer is crucial to look at when backing a horse. That's 1 thing that doesn't change.
    MC likes whisper.

    champion chase is fences v Douvan.


    Handicaps day 1 and 2

    GOB likes noble endeavour. Doesn't like much else first 2 days but likes debuchet in champion bumper who worked well today at leopardstown.. .
    GE said noble endeavour has cheltenham form.. small each way chance.
    GE says Run for Dave is worth 10 e w In Race he runs in. Good chance DR rides this.
    GE Apples jade goes mares. Faster the pace the better.

    RP says rock on the moor has a squeak in mares. Will be ridden to place by himself Coral cup he thinks tombstone will win but super Sunday has a chance

    GE said tombestone if he gets his way will go handicap coral cup preferably and has a great mark... but Eddie o Leary says Michael wants him to run in champion as off today.. he got phone call from Eddie this morning..

    GE thinks genie in a bottle too slow for a 4 mile race. If ground dries out Jockey will ride tiger roll and DR likes tiger roll for that too ..
    TIGER ROLL should be backed today as Jamie code should be riding him ... and will half in price when that's announced..

    JLT
    DR fan of yorkhill although made erratic jumps today over first 3 then was brilliant over rest ... he likes disko. Pace will suit. He said nicky Henderson really likes top notch. He wud go against fav with top notch.

    GOB seen yorkhill today and wasn't impressed. He doesn't tick all boxes at prices. He likes disko last time beating our duke.

    RP said yorkhill will struggle with undulations of racecourse. Fences take jumping too.

    GE diamond king won't run here. He said yorkhill best horse in race. If he jumps he wins... but skimpy price. Disko has the ability to win.

    PP rep said he will be bigger than 2/1 on day .. wouldn't enhance so Gordon guaranteed it and lit on rep... rep said he was told he couldn't lay yorkhill under no circumstances. GE sed no point u being here....

    Basically what I took from what they were doing was trying to talk the horse down so they could get PP to take it on and it didn't work and they were disappointed to say the least !


    RYANAIR
    DR UDS is ground dependent .. softer better... but stamina will be stretched. Eratic jumping technique. If they go quick empire of dirt it wud suit. Uxiandre front runner he likes. He thinks race made for sizing John.

    RP sizing defo goes gold cup... he thinks UDS and uxiandre will take each other in.. if ground good UDS has no chance... he thinks a horse off the pace will win empire of dirt or sub lieutenant

    GOB
    UDS worthy fav
    Empire of dirt should go gold cup
    Sub lieutenant is the value at 8/1 .. trip and good ground will suit.

    GE wants empire of dirt in gold cup. Outlander defo goes gold cup. GE got dogs abuse for doing what gigginstown says.!
    He agrees with DR about sizing john but only 1 gold cup. UDS best horse but ground can dry out.

    MC loves UDS

    STAYERS
    GOB unowhatimeanharry is very good horse... doesn't know y just not too confident but deserves to be fav and hard to find a thing to beat it. Peak form jezki would have a chance. Doesn't wanna really bet here

    RP
    jezki is a forgotten horse going to Cheltenham.. should have said this in interview with RP today... didn't like ground last time... should be going stayers. Flying at home since. He's a bet in stayers with pace Cole harden will provide .. massive race in jezki

    DR says RP talking with his heart. Not head. Fav ticks every box. Horse for him.
    PP enhanced FAV to 7/4.

    GE says Cole harden has No chance. Waste time talking bout him.

    Triumph
    Defi 9/4 enhanced.

    DR very sweet on mega fortune.. big chance. If ground was softer he could win. Thinks fav jumping is poor. Lot of these want good ground and mega doesn't

    RP
    9/4 for fav is a great bet.. take it.... every bit of it should win and Richard Johnson rides


    Albert Bartlett

    GE
    any horse can be beaten but DD is best novice hurdler he's ever trained.

    DR
    wholestone solid stayer. West approach good also. Augusta Kate goes for this but wouldn't have beaten DD in naas. Monalee in clonmel showed stamina and GE and DR both fear this most.

    MC likes west approach. Tizzard said ruby ride on this could of made horse.

    GOB says best piece of form is navan race between DD and monalee Augusta Kate place chance.
    Hope monalee goes Neptune as he would have a great chance.

    GE said he's better than Don Cossack was at that age or any horse he's had. Very sweet on him.


    Gold Cup

    GE doesn't like cue card
    Native river either doesn't like
    Outlander may NOT stay
    Don poli will be 3rd or 4th
    Champagne west not good enough
    Djakadam will win gold cup after a perfect gold cup

    GOB
    agrees with Gordon. Wishes empire of dirt was running here. Sizing john has a chance too e w at 10/1

    RP
    agrees with Gordon . Djakadam biggest danger. If sizing john stays he wins and everything he does including at home says he stays. Bred to stay. Very sweet on him

    DR
    was a native river fan.. but form not solid... Hennessy off 11 stone 1 .. price not justified... agrees with Gordon about djakadam prep and looked great today in leopardstown. Outlander very good horse with dry ground has a chance. Thinks it's a hell of a race. Sided with djakadam just coz he was there before and done it. Empire of dirt should run here. Don poli in a better rhythm and has oodles of stamina... very open race with loads having a chance coming to last 2. Value is sizing john at 10/1 but could be willie Mullins year finally

    MC likes native river.

    Won't have easy lead said DR ... with champagne west.. DR said native river faster than altior at Newbury over the last 3...


    During this PP enhanced DD to 3/1 for AB


    GOB likes presenting Percy.. will run a big race.
    Gers girl got a nice mark.
    Phillip Hobbs "no comment" horse in Martin pipe Likes forge meadow too

    DR
    HANDICAPS day 3 and 4
    Peter faheys periguino run has a good mark.. well treated...
    blazer of willie Mullins beat maldini... well treated for Kim muir..

    RP
    rock the world grand annual had wind op .. serious each way chance

    Forge meadow in mares big chance on good ground... both mares has strength and depth


    MC
    don perenom de lise ???
    On the fringe is a CERT for fox hunters

    GE didn't answer here but liked storyteller later

    Questions from audience

    Defi jumping was questioned but gary o brien and MC said coz he was idling

    Peace and co running next weekend in imperial cup then bonus in county .. they sed it will struggle...

    Shadow love runs in Neptune confirmed .. has allowance and e w chance GE

    campeador doesn't run at Cheltenham...

    Diamond king runs in brown advisory plate and DR rides him ...



    Charity bets

    DR
    100 u know what I mean Harry

    RP
    200 sizing john gold cup

    MC
    defi du seuil 200

    GE had to back a pipe horse
    50 e w champers on ice on what ever race
    100 each way on story teller


    GOB
    forge meadow in mares 200 win 10/1.
     
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    Skybet doing money back as a free bet on the first on all losers each day.

    Read and listened to a fair few previews. Gordon Elliot's horses keep popping up over and over again. A fair few of them are Irish previews so maybe a bias there.
     
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    Some day i will get to this great festival.Prob need the wife to find another husband 1st...lol
     
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    ATR now doing preview
     
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    My Tuesday's Tips

    Elgin
    Go Conquer
    Tiger Roll
    Tully East

    EW Yankee.
     
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    Would not call them tips, more selections :D

    1.30 Ballyandy W
    2.50 Noble Endeavour EW
    3.30 Yanworth W,
    4.10 Apples Jade W
    4.50 Martello Tower EW


    Also did Elliot to beat Mullins in winners at 100/30
     
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    I like brain power for the champion hurdle and gonna double altior and douvan both to win by 6 or more lengths
     
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    Decent offer on bet 365, back a winner @ 4/1 or greater on any of the TV races @ Cheltenham and they'll give you a risk free bet in the next TV race to the same stake, max €50.
     
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    Ladbrokes are money back as free bet in the Mares if Limini or VVM win.

    max bet €25.
     
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    Singlefarmpayment is my main hope today.
     

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