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Brexit

Discussion in 'Current Affairs' started by Dub13, Apr 11, 2016.

  1. twixfix

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    The problem here is the media. Most are there to help there shareholders interests. Lies are knowingly spread as long as it helps them. Real journalism is a very rare thing now. Now a paper is mostly filled with opinion pieces to support a or b's agenda. The uk media had people believing corbyn was an anti semite, terrorist, spy.
     
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    Agree with all of that but the electorate have to accept their share of the blame too,on the right and the left. There's far too much tribalism and everybody is searching for the version of the story they want to hear and ignoring facts and reality. This cult around Corbyn will go along with everything he says rather than accept anything less than a government with him leading it. They're all over social media attacking anybody on the left who challenge his stupid Brexit position,accusing them of enabling the Tories.But people are literally already dying because of Brexit,things will get far worse the most vulnerable even if it eventually leads to him winning a general election,which it may not so you're left wondering how many people is it acceptable to die or have huge suffering unnecessarily inflicted on them for the gamble of some socialist utopia that will never come to pass anyway? Refusing to enable that is correct and right and it's up to Corbyn to make sure people doing that aren't enabling the Tories by opposing it too.
     
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    Labour at best missing the point again on this Brexit lark by calling for a General Election and a more cynical view would be that they're actually adding to the chaos in the interests of political point scoring. Corbyn has no interest in sorting out the Brexit chaos because the only way to do that is to find a way to reverse it but is quite obviously now just using Brexit as a means to try and push labour on in the polls and will ultimately end up negotiating the exact same deals with Brussels, there's no better Brexit deal out there other than reversing Brexit and these muppets know that all too well.
     
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    I think it's heading for no deal brexit which will be a disaster for everyone. They are just delaying inevitable.
     
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    There's a better deal but it would mean accepting freedom of movement and would still be worse than what they currently have.
     
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    There'd be riots in the streets if they tried to come back with freedom of movement.
     
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    Still better than the alternative
     
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    I listened a guardian podcast earlier in the week. It was so fucked up they reckon the queen may to have get involved at some stage.

    Every out they have had multiple road blocks in front of it. To me it looks like no deal is the only way this ends, they will end up selling the kitchen sink to get a few deals over the line but ultimately they will get it done. It will probably be a generation before the real effects are known.
     
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    This woman just shredded Theresa May and Brexit beautifully.
    This is what Question Time should be.
    https://t.co/crV0hEKT5V

    She's not wrong.
     
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    Yeah some common sense spoken by her
     
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    Quality from Colon with Visit Malaysia sponsor in the background

     
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    I've been at open evenings for 2 different colleges this week and the subject of brexit came up in both, one wasn't sure at all how it will effect them and the other was confident that nothing will change.
    Clear as mud
     
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    Does the no vote this avo mean a no deal Brexit is likely or will they kick the Can down the road beyond March until they sort out who will lead the country?
     
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    I'd say there's isn't a person on this planet that can answer that for you, Theresa May et Al included.

    What will be interesting tomorrow will be when Labour table their no confidence motion, will the Tory ministers wwho today rejected her Brexit deal side wutg her on that leaving a very unusual situation where she's neither supported nor rejected fully by her party.
     
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    Wonder what David Cameron is making of all this as he sits at home in his West Ham/Aston Villa shirt
     
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    She’s likely to survive the vote of no confidence tomorrow and then has to produce a plan for ‘what happens next’ by Monday. Most expect her to try to get Europe to agree to delay the exit date beyond March in an attempt to get a better deal to take back to parliament - or else it’s a hard Brexit. Outside chance of a second referendum.
     
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    Where is the geezer?
     

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