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Discussion in 'Current Affairs' started by Dub13, Apr 11, 2016.

  1. Liverpool-law

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    I wish we were in a position to laugh at them but unfortunately we are not. A dynamite mixture of utter stupidity and overwhelming arrogance which is going to do nothing good for us. And no matter what they do (Farage, Johnson, Trump etc.) they have such a huge backing from idiots that they get away with it. I don't think the state of the ruling powers of the world has been more depressing since the height of the cold war.
     
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    He obviously had a choice,but it would have required him to not put his own interests first so it was no choice really. Shows politics up for what it is again.2 men leave their jobs that everybody accepts they were no good at,but it still has a major impact.
     
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    I know or care very little about Brexit but just seen them in parliament on the news and 2 of the people on the front bench with May were looking at and typing on their phones, that's mad.
     
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    I listen to James all the time and you do get a few loons but this is just a normal guy,probably reasonably intelligent,but how this conversation goes is what happens 90% of the time on his calls.Any type of interrogation of the reasons people state for voting leave sees them fall apart.
     
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    I don't think it's all that different in our own place mate, and that's when our TDs actually attend the Dail. They should block mobile phone signals within the Dail chambers imho.
     
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    Getting back to Brexit, I'm actually amazed that May is still in power tbh ....

    Once Johnson and Davies walked, I was convinced there was going to be a leadership challenge (obviously motivated by a desire to take a harder stance in Brexit negotiations).
     
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    I still think she fall further so they will pounce once she is weaker. Was strange to hear Trump bigging up Boris Johnson. Wheels in motion I’d say for his challenge
     
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    I wouldn't be so sure lads.The main candidates to replace her know a hard Brexit would be economic suicide and I'm not sure anybody in the Tory party wants to captain that ship.Michael Gove has rowed in behind that Chequers paper but it's hard to see how he gets the top job from that position,they may as well just leave May there. I'm not saying it won't happen but just that it won't surprise me if it doesn't.
     
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    Heard on the radio last week that if they put forward a motion of no confidence in May and she survives, she can't be touched for 12 months after that.
     
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    Have to hand it to Teresa May,quite the achievement to be the most spineless,self serving person in that party but after a couple of years of being bullied by her own MP's she finally took the mantle yesterday. There has never been a PM whose words mean less than hers.After giving it the big one last week on the chequers paper,one of the ministers who backed her actually had to resign to vote for it as she completely capitulated and gave in to the ERG demands,left Britain with no negotiating position again and all to keep herself in power.
     
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    Sums up the whole situation and you could technically argue the British electorate gave a much bigger mandate for remain than they did for a no deal Brexit.
     
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    The only logical argument that is actually left for Brexit at this point is the one that the caller continued to make for the duration of the call "BUT WE VOTED TO LEAVE"

    There's nothing else that anybody can claim makes sense anymore other than that, most of the people who voted for Brexit seem happy enough that this is enough of a reason to continue with it but I'd love to know how the whole thing would go if they voted on it again. It's possible they'd still vote to leave again but at least this time it would be with the full knowledge of how awful it's really going to be which they certainly didn't know the first time with lies that were told, if they voted leave again with full knowledge then good luck to them.
     
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    They should have a couple of test days in Airports and Port's. A couple of days of carnage all over the news would focus the minds fairly quickly.


    A snippet from an article in the Guardian yesterday sums it up for me "All but Jenkin, who was hellbent on seeing how high he could raise the stupidity bar. Having earlier in the day declared that business was far too interested in making money, he now suggested that the way to reconcile just-in-time production with longer border checks was to make sure that lorries set out from the EU several days earlier than they currently did. That way it wouldn’t matter if they got held up. If he wasn’t already an MP, Jenkin would be hard pushed to get a job"
     
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    Sweet mother of jaysis,a 10 year old offering that logic would be put into the remedial class.
     
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    This time last year,
    "A trade deal with the EU will be the easiest deal we've ever negotiated"
    Liam Fox,International Trade Seceretary

    Now,
    "We will stockpile to make sure we have adequate amounts of food in the event of a no deal Brexit"
    Dominic Raab,Brexit Minister

    Also,
    "The department is working up options with industry for stockpiling medicines,medical devices and substances of human origin in the case of a no deal Brexit.Obviously there will be a cost for this"
    Matt Hancock,Health Minister

    You couldn't make this shit up.Its gone from Club Tropicana to an episode of The Walking Dead.
     
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    :D :D :D
     
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    @OFOCBrexit @mrjamesob @mrjamesob @theousherwood @LBC Please, this needs to be watched and shared. @Nigel_Farage ab… https://t.co/ksEB9ceoqK

    This is why Farage,Johnson etc. stick to situations where they'll get softball questions and avoid people who know enough to challenge their rhetoric. He has no choice but to admit here that they might be lowering the standards of the produce they import and damage British farmers livelihood and the subtext is it's worth it to see less brown people. And you can times this by thousands on all manner of issues that 40 years of part of the EU will make unavoidable. Their new one is that people claiming a no deal Brexit is a disaster,Is scaremongering like all the unnecesary panic about the millennium bug in 2000. Years of planning and work by experts in an industry all pulling in the same direction went into that transition which is in no way comparable to this racist shit show. Sky's poll says the majority now want a vote on the final deal which will be put straight into the bin if they get it.
     
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    Anyone got any idea what might happen with the pound over the next year with Brexit? Bound to be an opportunity to make a killing if you were clued in.
     

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