mascherano

[TubbyReina]

i seen this on skys website 10 mins ago
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11827_5370558,00.html
as i was reading it the show had a just in saying he would also like to go to real madrid,theymust be bored in that place making up news,but if its true id rather she him go than alonso,but would still like to see him stay

[LFC_Mark]

His agent trying to get masch a pay rise maybe?

[vincenzo]

His agent trying to get masch a pay rise maybe?
Looks like it

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Hes not going.

[fermoyred80]

he was prob asked would he like a move to Barca/Madrid esp with south america prob going crazy at the moment with the news of Kaka and he said yes. Why wouldn he they are massive clubs and growing up its a south americians dream to play for either two clubs and not in england. He will end up there some day, along with Torres/Reina and co all eventually moving on its part of the package when signing foreign players

[Pimboli]

Considering our financial troubles, Alonso wanting to go its no surprise all these stories are cropping up as I doubt its hard to get a comment or two out from an agent pimping his players.

Not saying Id agree to it but £25m-£30m for him with Jay Spearing being given a chance to do the job in CM someone who would die for first team spot is a possibility.

I now eagerly await the 'Spearings crap' 'Mashers the greatest player since sliced bread and is going nowhere not even for £100m' backlash to that sugestion ;)

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Considering our financial troubles, Alonso wanting to go its no surprise all these stories are cropping up as I doubt its hard to get a comment or two out from an agent pimping his players.

Not saying Id agree to it but £25m-£30m for him with Jay Spearing being given a chance to do the job in CM someone who would die for first team spot is a possibility.

I now eagerly await the 'Spearings crap' 'Mashers the greatest player since sliced bread and is going nowhere not even for £100m' backlash to that sugestion ;)

I love Jay Spearing but hes never even made a league start so trusting him to take over from the Argentina captain is just ridiculous imo.

[Rover 609]

Considering our financial troubles, Alonso wanting to go its no surprise all these stories are cropping up as I doubt its hard to get a comment or two out from an agent pimping his players.

Not saying Id agree to it but £25m-£30m for him with Jay Spearing being given a chance to do the job in CM someone who would die for first team spot is a possibility.

I now eagerly await the 'Spearings crap' 'Mashers the greatest player since sliced bread and is going nowhere not even for £100m' backlash to that sugestion ;)

I dont think Spearing will cement a place as a regular in next seasons league line ups but i can see him play most of our CL games in the group stages.No one would deny the lad deserves a chance but can you realistically say you would fire him into a league starting 11 Graham?

[JFT96YNWA]

His agent trying to get masch a pay rise maybe?

His agent needs to keep his mouth shut and not stir up anything :(

[Badman]

i think spearing is definitely good enough to take lucas' place in the squad - the guy busts a gut every time he plauys. if masch does go it'll prob be for 30m or so coz he's only 24. u could get a decent holding midfielder from italy or spain for 10m (ok, maybe not as good as masch but good enough maybe) and stil ahve 20m to spend elsewhere. it looks like rafa will have to sell one of either masch OR alonso if he wants cash to spend - he probably just has to decide who's easiest to replace i reckon

[Pimboli]

I dont think Spearing will cement a place as a regular in next seasons league line ups but i can see him play most of our CL games in the group stages.No one would deny the lad deserves a chance but can you realistically say you would fire him into a league starting 11 Graham?

I only put him up as an option if Masher went Ronan, purely on the basis we'd need to fork out for a replacement, granted he has no experience but Maschs job has always been busting a gut breaking up opposition play as he's never been asked or expected to contribute in an attacking sense.

JS has to get experience somehow so avoid being one of the many many nearly men, and a decent pre-season and a kind early fixture list would help him no end bed in, he to me is more in the Masch mould than Lucas who Im sure Rafa would have as heir aparant if he couldnt buy are replacement should the unthinkable happen and we lose Masch.

[RedRay1]

JS has to get experience somehow so avoid being one of the many many nearly men, and a decent pre-season and a kind early fixture list would help him no end bed in, he to me is more in the Masch mould than Lucas who Im sure Rafa would have as heir aparant if he couldnt buy are replacement should the unthinkable happen and we lose Masch.

I agree, if the unthinkable did happen and we didnt replace Masch, I'd rather take a chance on Spearing than settle for Lucas replacing Masch as he cant cover the ground as much as Masch or Spearing

[RedArmagh]

I love Jay Spearing but hes never even made a league start so trusting him to take over from the Argentina captain is just ridiculous imo.


Was going to write this exact response

[Kop On]

His agent needs to keep his mouth shut and not stir up anything :(

Yeah exactly. Sure it was only a few weeks ago Masch was bigging up playing for Liverpool and encouraging Tevez to join him.

At the end of the day Mascherano still has 3/4 years left on his contract I think so unless Rafa decides to sell him he's going nowhere!

[pelemcg]

This story is a load of old cobblers.
Mascherano ousting Xavi or Iniesta? I know they are a fundamentally different type of player, but IMO Masch doesn't have the vision or technique of those two. Silly season has started.

[TubbyReina]

This story is a load of old cobblers.
Mascherano ousting Xavi or Iniesta? I know they are a fundamentally different type of player, but IMO Masch doesn't have the vision or technique of those two. Silly season has started.
he would oust busquets as sittin in front of the back 4 with yaya toure centre back.but as you said its silly season

[CF999]

This story is a load of old cobblers.
Mascherano ousting Xavi or Iniesta? I know they are a fundamentally different type of player, but IMO Masch doesn't have the vision or technique of those two. Silly season has started.

What do Xavi and Iniesta have to do with it? He doesn't play in their position?

[justydawson]

whoever posted it before, cant remember, but beginning to agree.

Im placing my fingers in my ears until August. Load of bull crap and speculation.

[trucker]

I love Jay Spearing but hes never even made a league start so trusting him to take over from the Argentina captain is just ridiculous imo.

If you watch him play Spearing is more like Alonso than he is Mascherano, he's super distribution scores goals and he can tackle.

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

If you watch him play Spearing is more like Alonso than he is Mascherano, he's super distribution scores goals and he can tackle.

Exactly.Hes not even a proper holding midfielder like Masch is in any case.Plessis plays that role for the reserves.I would say that Jay is most like Stevie in his younger days from what Ive seen of him.he's more box-to-box and all action-as you said he can score goals,pick a pass and hold his own in a 50-50.Wish he was a bit taller for his own sake but if he's good enough,he'll still make it.

[Goulet]

He won't go but if it was between him and xabi i'd have to go with masch. xabi is not replaceable where as masch can be replaced. id very very suprised if he was allowed to go.

[Alex Raisbeck]

Bloody agent.
Hopefully Masch will come out with a denial in a day or 2.

[Shels-07]

Great player & I hope he stays put..

[LFC_Mark]

Rafa Benitez warns Barcelona £50m would not buy Javier Mascherano

Jun 10 2009 by David Prentice, Liverpool Echo

RAFAEL BENITEZ today warned Barcelona to drop their interest in Javier Mascherano because “even "£50m would not be enough to sign him.”

Warning bells rang at Anfield today when the Argentine international's agent appeared to be paving the way for a bid from Barca.

Walter Tamer, Mascherano's representative, said: “It is an honour for Javier that a club like Barca pay such close attention to him.

“He would have a very easy job there.

"Sometimes we talk and joke that the only thing he has to do is run, rob the ball and pass it on to all the superstars in front of him.”

Benitez was so concerned by the reports that he cut short a family holiday today to issue a clear hands-off warning to the Catalan club.

“Mascherano has no price,” he declared.

“Barcelona could not afford to match his value to Liverpool Football Club.

“We do no want to sell and Javier is very happy here.

“I have spoken to Javier two or three times this summer – the last time was only last week – and he was very happy, very positive.

“He gave me the private number of his agent, Walter Tamer, and again the conversation was very positive and was all about football.

“Walter told me that two clubs with big, big names were asking after Mascherano – and I told him to forget it, that Javier was happy in Liverpool and he was not for sale.

“So I was surprised to see the agent's comments today.

“He has a long contract and any club can forget about bidding for him. They can offer $40m or even $50m, we don’t want to sell.”

The recent worrying financial report about the level of Liverpool's debts has encouraged clubs to consider bids for influential Reds stars like Mascherano.

But reports today suggest that Tom Hicks and George Gillett will be given the green light by Royal Bank of Scotland and Wachovia to refinance their £350m loan from next month's July 24 deadline.

The extension could reportedly cost up to £3.5m for the arrangement fee, with interest payments – approximately four per cent above the banking rate.


http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2009/06/10/liverpool-fc-boss-rafa-benitez-warns-barcelona-50m-would-not-buy-javier-mascherano-100252-23834865/

[graham]

Fair play to him. Another manager would be quick to cash in. Mascherano is a very important player for us. Most under-rated player in the premier league

[5starpool]

Interesting that denials about Masch are more vehement than the denials about Alonso. Hopefully nothing to read into it though.

[graham]

Personally, I think Mascherano would be a bigger loss than Alonso

[RedRuairi]

More or less the same is stated on Liverpoolfc.tv

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N164698090610-1121.htm

Rafa Benitez today dismissed speculation linking Javier Mascherano with a move away from Liverpool.
The Argentina international's agent was yesterday quoted as saying our No.20 would be prepared to talk to newly crowned European champions Barcelona.

However, Benitez is adamant Mascherano is not for sale at any price and insisted the 25-year-old is happy to stay at Anfield.

"Mascherano has no price," said the Liverpool boss.

"Barcelona could not afford to match his value to Liverpool Football Club.

"We do not want to sell and Javier is very happy here.

"I have spoken to Javier two or three times this summer – the last time was only last week – and he was very happy, very positive.

"He gave me the private number of his agent, Walter Tamer, and again the conversation was very positive and was all about football.

"Walter told me that two clubs with big, big names were asking after Mascherano – and I told him to forget it, that Javier was happy in Liverpool and he was not for sale.

"So I was surprised to see the agent's comments today.

"He has a long contract and any club can forget about bidding for him. They can offer £40m or even £50m, we don’t want to sell."

[GaryMc]

Personally, I think Mascherano would be a bigger loss than Alonso

Not on last seasons form anyway. Lucas can do Masherano's job (although not as good clearly). He can't do what Alonso does. If it came down to it, I would sell Masher every day of the week ahead of Alonso.

Saying that, great to see Rafa come out and rubbish the muppet of an agent. They are parasites.

[trucker]

Maschereno's pregnant wife has gone with his daughter she cant settle in merseyside, and its looking likely hes gona follow. I was told this story by a reliable source 2 months ago who asked me not to say anything until it got more substance but its looking likely, a certain newspaper that we dont like has a story on it tomorrow and I know alot they say is wide of the mark, this could be on the money.

[RedMurph08]

Maschereno's pregnant wife has gone with his daughter she cant settle in merseyside, and its looking likely hes gona follow. I was told this story by a reliable source 2 months ago who asked me not to say anything until it got more substance but its looking likely, a certain newspaper that we dont like has a story on it tomorrow and I know alot they say is wide of the mark, this could be on the money.

I heard this a while ago also and when his agent came out touting him last week it came as no surprise. If thats the case so be it.

[trucker]

I heard this a while ago also and when his agent came out touting him last week it came as no surprise. If thats the case so be it.

How th efcuk do we replace Tommy, and heaven forbid Tommy and Xabi in 1 summer.

[RedMurph08]

How th efcuk do we replace Tommy, and heaven forbid Tommy and Xabi in 1 summer.

Only 1 of them will go. Sometimes you just have to deal with things that are thrown at you something we have no control over. We are better letting him go rather than have an unsettled/uninterested player on our hands next season. Yes it Masch and yes i dont want to lose him but we could do worse than Yaya and cash if Barca wanna play ball, replace like for like (although he is no Masch).

Whenever the stories started circulating last week I knew in my heart there was no smoke without fire :(

[JMurray#8]

Fu*k sake this is terrible news, you can tell that he loves the club and he wouldn't want to leave but I guess if his family are leaving he has to follow. I just hope clubs don't hold us to ransome because they know that his family want out and we get a top deal for him should this be true. Like Rafa said £50 million wouldn't buy him!

[dubit10]

How th efcuk do we replace Tommy, and heaven forbid Tommy and Xabi in 1 summer.

If Masher goes for anything less than 35m i'll be disgusted. If we lose him and Alonso i'll be disgusted at Rafa. At this stage with all the rumours flying around i'll be happy just to keep the players we have for next season. That said if the rumour is from that shiterag it's more than likely made up as let's face it they have it in for us.

[gav003]

Daily Mirror has Eto'o offered to us for Tommy according to BBC

[dubit10]

Daily Mirror has Eto'o offered to us for Tommy according to BBC

They can go jump in a lake. Masher is 24 the captain of Argentina and the best player on the planet in his position. Eto is what 29 and has 3 years left at the top level. No bloody way.:mad: Eto and 20m and they'd have a deal. Masher gives Stevie and Nando the licence to do the things they do by protecting the midfield and back four. Who's gonna replace him?

[MrsPepe]

Maschereno's pregnant wife has gone with his daughter she cant settle in merseyside, and its looking likely hes gona follow. I was told this story by a reliable source 2 months ago who asked me not to say anything until it got more substance but its looking likely, a certain newspaper that we dont like has a story on it tomorrow and I know alot they say is wide of the mark, this could be on the money.

what is it with the wives ffs, couldnt handle alonso and masch going, jaysus:eek:

[bobby benitez]

Sell him to boca or river or tell his wife to shut the fu*k up. All wifes moan, someone should explain that to masch.

[SUPERFAN]

Sell him to boca or river or tell his wife to shut the fu*k up. All wifes moan, someone should explain that to masch.

that's a good point,rafa should tell him if his missus is homesick he'll sell him if an acceptable bid comes in from an argetinian team which we all know isn't going to happen.i guarantee she'd have no problem settling in spain...

[JMurray#8]

They can go jump in a lake. Masher is 24 the captain of Argentina and the best player on the planet in his position. Eto is what 29 and has 3 years left at the top level. No bloody way.:mad: Eto and 20m and they'd have a deal. Masher gives Stevie and Nando the licence to do the things they do by protecting the midfield and back four. Who's gonna replace him?

Lucas Leiva:rolleyes:

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Lucas Leiva:rolleyes:

Lucas bashing is getting a bit old lad.

Still think we'll keep Masch and Xabi personally for another season at least.

Feckin women,eh;):D

[RedMurph08]

Feckin women,eh;):D

Its the way forward Ninja.... you wanna try it!!!!!!!! :p:p:)

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Its the way forward Ninja.... you wanna try it!!!!!!!! :p:p:)

Im a raging homosexual.

[RedMurph08]

Im a raging homosexual.

Well it took you 6 minutes to come up with that response! Either your a sh1te slow typer or you do it 1 handed!!! :p The typing :)

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Well it took you 6 minutes to come up with that response! Either your a sh1te slow typer or you do it 1 handed!!! :p The typing :)

You should spend less time PMing Lally and D-Red-their bad influence is rubbing off on you:D

[fermoyred80]

Im a raging homosexual.

except you like the Romanians lad:D

[bobby benitez]

Liverpool Football Club has today issued the following statement.
"Despite repeated media speculation on the futures of Xabi Alonso and Javier Mascherano, Liverpool has received no official approach or offer from any club regarding the players.

"Neither are for sale and furthermore Liverpool has no interest in the long list of Spanish based players being linked with a move to Anfield as part of any deal."

No mention of Torres, he must gone so.

[trucker]

No mention of Torres, he must gone so.

Did you not read the express Bobby hes going to united, done deal apparently:p

[Goulet]

i did hear about his wife not living in liverpool with him and i was told she would prefer spain as there is no language barrier. he would be a big loss but eto and cash in the region of 25million plus could be worth a look.

[LFC_Mark]

I know its only goal.com but there reporting that we accepted a bid for masch and his agent is in barca for talks

http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2009/06/17/1330500/breaking-news-javier-mascheranos-agent-in-barcelona-for

Javier Mascherano's agent is due to hold talks with Barcelona on Wednesday afternoon at the club's offices in Camp Nou regarding a move from Liverpool, and the contract that could be offered, Goal.com understands.

The Argentinian midfielder has been linked with a move to the Catalan giants and now Walter Tamer has jetted in to the city to meet with Blaugrana officials.

No fee has been agreed with Liverpool, but Mascherano's desire to play at Barca could have helped push the Reds into allowing his representatives to hear what is on offer.

While manager Rafa Benitez has stated that the European champions would not have enough money to buy him, compatriot Lionel Messi has claimed he would like to play in the same club side as Mascherano.

If a deal for Mascherano is concluded then that could see Toure Yaya's time at Barcelona come to a close after just two seasons as talks over a new deal have yet to produce a result.

The Ivory Coast midfielder's agent, Dmitri Seluk, has told reporters that unless a deal is done by next week then his client will seek to take up one of the offers from abroad that are apparently on the table.

A swap deal could even be in the offing with Toure heading to Liverpool, but his participation in the African Cup of Nations would mean that any would-be buyer would have to do without him for a month in the new year.

Lucas Brown, Goal.com

[MrsPepe]

god damn it, just when you start feeling ok

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

goal.com is a load of bollox-he's not leaving so chill out.

[MrsPepe]

goal.com is a load of bollox-he's not leaving so chill out.

I will Howie:p

[Liverpool-law]

I know its only goal.com but there reporting that we accepted a bid for masch and his agent is in barca for talks

http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2009/06/17/1330500/breaking-news-javier-mascheranos-agent-in-barcelona-for

Javier Mascherano's agent is due to hold talks with Barcelona on Wednesday afternoon at the club's offices in Camp Nou regarding a move from Liverpool, and the contract that could be offered, Goal.com understands.

The Argentinian midfielder has been linked with a move to the Catalan giants and now Walter Tamer has jetted in to the city to meet with Blaugrana officials.

No fee has been agreed with Liverpool, but Mascherano's desire to play at Barca could have helped push the Reds into allowing his representatives to hear what is on offer.

While manager Rafa Benitez has stated that the European champions would not have enough money to buy him, compatriot Lionel Messi has claimed he would like to play in the same club side as Mascherano.

If a deal for Mascherano is concluded then that could see Toure Yaya's time at Barcelona come to a close after just two seasons as talks over a new deal have yet to produce a result.

The Ivory Coast midfielder's agent, Dmitri Seluk, has told reporters that unless a deal is done by next week then his client will seek to take up one of the offers from abroad that are apparently on the table.

A swap deal could even be in the offing with Toure heading to Liverpool, but his participation in the African Cup of Nations would mean that any would-be buyer would have to do without him for a month in the new year.

Lucas Brown, Goal.com

No fee agreed but his agent is in talks with Barca?? I don't think so

[pelemcg]

No fee agreed but his agent is in talks with Barca?? I don't think so
+1

[JMurray#8]

In a way I can't wait for august 31st when we know for sure the team for next season. Personally I don't think Xabi or Masch will leave but as the saying goes there's no smoke without fire so obviously all this speculation has come from somewhere.

[armaghred]

Sky sports website saying the same as that goal link.

[Raven136]

No fee agreed but his agent is in talks with Barca?? I don't think so

didnt madrid do the same with ronaldo?meet and agree everything with the agent first then sort out the right deal.
Really hope its not true but getting worried all the same

[Liverpool-law]

Surely Barca cannot have talks without permission of the club? Or are they allowed to talk to the agent but not the player?? Seems like tapping up to me but can someone clarify if it's allowed to talk to the agent (openly obviously, I'm sure it's done privately all the time)?

[Pimboli]

More than likely 110% complete rubbish but it makes total sense for Barca to put some bite into their midfield. Again like Alonso I dont want him to go but if we got something in the region of £30m for him and keep Alonso it could get us near what we need for Villa.

You cant replace the type of craft and vision that Alonso has but a defensive ball winning midfielder, maybe not so hard to replace?

[bryanod]

sorry but that is rubbish, best in the world at what he does, nobody even comes close.

Who would you like to get in to replace him?

[graham]

sorry but that is rubbish, best in the world at what he does, nobody even comes close.

Who would you like to get in to replace him?

I'd hate to see him go but just to say if he did go... Although I don't mean to speak of him like he's gone.... Mata or Javi Martinez would be good and would free up a lot of funds to bring in someone like David Villa or Kun Aguero.

[Liverpool-law]

sorry but that is rubbish, best in the world at what he does, nobody even comes close.

Who would you like to get in to replace him?

I wouldn't like him to go but there are strong rumours that his wife ain't happy (does she even live in Liverpool?) and that Rafa will let him go if the deal is right to solve his problem. Apparently Yaya Toure hasn't signed his new deal yet, if we got him in part exchange and we got money with him I'd take it, use the funds together with a few more sales to go for Villa in an ideal world. It's all speculation but that's the nature of the summer...

[x43r0]

More than likely 110% complete rubbish but it makes total sense for Barca to put some bite into their midfield. Again like Alonso I dont want him to go but if we got something in the region of £30m for him and keep Alonso it could get us near what we need for Villa.

You cant replace the type of craft and vision that Alonso has but a defensive ball winning midfielder, maybe not so hard to replace?

+1

If we can keep alonso and we got in the region of 30m for masch i would be happy enough provided the funds went directly into a bid for Aguero or to a lesser extent Villa. I rate aguero more personally

[Raven136]

i dont understand people saying use the masch money(if true)to sign villa.

We have found a winning tactic in the 4-4-1-1 with Gerrard behind Nando.Villa would mean going back to a straight 4-4-2 and this doesnt make the best use of Gerrard at all.

Masch is vital to us,easily best in the world at what he does,as good as makele in his prime.Selling him would just mean buying an inferior player in his position and in my opinion no player right now does exactly what he does at his level.

[Liverpool-law]

i dont understand people saying use the masch money(if true)to sign villa.

We have found a winning tactic in the 4-4-1-1 with Gerrard behind Nando.Villa would mean going back to a straight 4-4-2 and this doesnt make the best use of Gerrard at all.

Masch is vital to us,easily best in the world at what he does,as good as makele in his prime.Selling him would just mean buying an inferior player in his position and in my opinion no player right now does exactly what he does at his level.

I know what you're saying but IF (and we don't know) he wants/needs to go for family reasons we need to make the best of it. As said above, I would take Toure for his position and also cash to go towards Villa. Toure is only 21 and is a handy defensive midfielder already.

[Pimboli]

sorry but that is rubbish, best in the world at what he does, nobody even comes close.

Who would you like to get in to replace him?

As Liverpool-Law mentioned Toure would be one. As for being the best in the world and no one comes close there were many time last season when people were taking pops at Lucas people were quick (and correct) to point out that Masch was having just as many poor games but Lucas took the heat for everything.

There is also De Rossi maybe Cambiasso if you are looking for experience all depending on the price who are at big teams but Im sure there are players at lesser teams being scouted ready to step up. Remember Masch himself came from Corinthians and all the buzz was about Tevez and not him when they arrived at West Ham. If he has suddenly become the best in the world at what he does thats happened since he arrived at Anfield.

[Raven136]

As Liverpool-Law mentioned Toure would be one. As for being the best in the world and no one comes close there were many time last season when people were taking pops at Lucas people were quick (and correct) to point out that Masch was having just as many poor games but Lucas took the heat for everything.

There is also De Rossi maybe Cambiasso if you are looking for experience all depending on the price who are at big teams but Im sure there are players at lesser teams being scouted ready to step up. Remember Masch himself came from Corinthians and all the buzz was about Tevez and not him when they arrived at West Ham. If he has suddenly become the best in the world at what he does thats happened since he arrived at Anfield.

masch was well known.He played for Argentina before he played a club game.

[rushiekop]

i dont understand people saying use the masch money(if true)to sign villa.

We have found a winning tactic in the 4-4-1-1 with Gerrard behind Nando.Villa would mean going back to a straight 4-4-2 and this doesnt make the best use of Gerrard at all.

Masch is vital to us,easily best in the world at what he does,as good as makele in his prime.Selling him would just mean buying an inferior player in his position and in my opinion no player right now does exactly what he does at his level.

Totally agree, we must keep Mascherano and Alonso and not interfere in any way with the Gerrard Torres partnership. They were lethal in the limited games they played together last season so just imagine what they'll do when they play together a bit more. There is no major surgery needed to make us league winners and to be honest if signing Villa means breaking up Stevie and Torres I'd have major reservations.

[Melion]

IF we were to lose him to Barca then id want an immediate bid for Mamadou Diarra, the only one that could replace him.

[john.p]

Surely Barca cannot have talks without permission of the club? Or are they allowed to talk to the agent but not the player?? Seems like tapping up to me but can someone clarify if it's allowed to talk to the agent (openly obviously, I'm sure it's done privately all the time)?

I think they can have talks with the player if the player's club agrees....for all we know LFC could have given Barca permission...

In saying that my money would be on this being purely media trash

[JMurray#8]

mamadou diarra doesn't even come close to what mascherano does. Masch is in a league of his own for defensive midfield play. If it comes down to losing him but getting villa or aguero I'd prefer to keep him in the team. I think we'd concede far more goals without him in the team, our midfield has the perfect balance to it, alonso can create something from nothing with his passing, gerrard can open up any defence and mascherano does the dirty work breaking up counter attacks, take any one of those out of the midfield any we are weaker. Nobody can replace gerrard or mascherano in the roles they perform and imo only iniesta would be up there with alonso. So the main goal for this summer should be to keep alonso and mascherano, for me that would be bigger than anyone we could sign.

[rushiekop]

How the scum wish they had a mascherano type player in the champions league final, I cant believe that anyone would be happy to see him go.

[bobby benitez]

While manager Rafa Benitez has stated that the European champions would not have enough money to buy him, compatriot Lionel Messi has claimed he would like to play in the same club side as Mascherano.



Sneaky bid maybe, if he really wants to play with Masch :)

Gerrard Messi
Torres

Nice.

[edcarroll02]

Sneaky bid maybe, if he really wants to play with Masch :)

Gerrard Messi
Torres

Nice.

Its enough to make the mouth water alright but i'm guessing Messi saw it all happening the other way around. I assume Touré would be the one losing out for Masch to arrive.

If Masch's familly aren't settled in Liverpool it could have something to do with his somewhat indifferent form during the season. Could be a case of us having to let the lad go, he'd sweat blood for our cause but if his familly aren't happpy i would hope the club wouldn't hold him here against his will.

[4tothefloor]

Sneaky bid maybe, if he really wants to play with Masch :)

Gerrard Messi
Torres

Nice.

Rafa should give them a taste of their own medicine and put in £20m bids for Iniesta and Xavi. If they complain about it or dismiss them out of hand (which they would) he can tell them to fcuk off cos it's ditto for Mascherano and even Reina who i've seen linked to them in some other paper.

If Masch was to leave £30m and not a penny less. At the end of the day if his family are home sick for the latin culture and unsettled in Britain, it's only a matter of time. Family is more important than football so if he has to go for family reasons, he has to go.

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Family is more important than football

:eek::eek::eek:








:p

[GaryMc]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jun/18/javier-mascherano-liverpool-barcelona

pesky agents

[rkdanny]

His agent was "apparently" talking to Barcelona yesterday about a transfer!

[graham]

Its been all over several news sources that the agent was in talking to Barca yesterday, his family arent happy and all that... According to the Daily mail, they'll have to pay over 50 Million for him
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2009/06/18/1332029/report-liverpools-javier-mascherano-will-cost-barcelona-over

[GaryMc]

Its been all over several news sources that the agent was in talking to Barca yesterday, his family arent happy and all that... According to the Daily mail, they'll have to pay over 50 Million for him
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2009/06/18/1332029/report-liverpools-javier-mascherano-will-cost-barcelona-over

Excellent player, however for 50 million I would drive him there myself.

[Liverpool-law]

Win-win situation. If Barca won't pay we keep one of the best players in the team. If they do pay that much it would be a great deal. Can't see them paying that much.

[D-Red]

There's no way they're going to offer 50 million. More like 20 million and we'd be stupid to sell him for 20 million.

Hope this gets sorted out asap

[graham]

Rafa seems to be taking that stance of we don't want to let Alonso or masch go, however if your willing to pay way too much then we'll consider

[Wayne]

I'm worried lads, who would replace Masch if we sold him? Lucas is the worst out of any of the defensive midfielders of the top 4 imo so I'd be hoping Rafa would add to replace but that's spending more cash - we've tried and failed with others most recently Mo Sissoko.

[Bren100]

Win-win situation. If Barca won't pay we keep one of the best players in the team. If they do pay that much it would be a great deal. Can't see them paying that much.

I cant see them paying that price either but I agree, win-win situation

There's no way they're going to offer 50 million. More like 20 million and we'd be stupid to sell him for 20 million.



Agreed, since we payed 18m for him + he is settled into the Team/Squad and the manager knows what he can do, 2m profit is not worth it.

[byrnetred]

every player has a price and if barca offer that price that the club will accept then he will be gone...

but rafa wont let him go unless he has a few options on who can/will replace him thats for sure...

[Ron1892]

Rafa isnt going to break up a team which is so close to greatness and part of that team is masch....if he's forced to do that he will walk...

i wouldnt believe everything i read...people get paid to make this sh*t up, and if they dont have something to write about papers or websites will get rid of them...

masch i firmly believe is staying..he only signed a new contract in january so i can firmly expect and believe he will be wearing the red number 20 next season( unless he changes his number).

[bono]

Don`t want to see him go as he`s one of my fave players but if he did go who would we bring in? (just for arguements sake say we have 50m to spend)

[graham]

Don`t want to see him go as he`s one of my fave players but if he did go who would we bring in? (just for arguements sake say we have 50m to spend)
To fill the void in the middle...

Mata-Valencia (not sure how much he'd cost)
or
Javi Martinez- 10 million

Sergio Aguero up front Thank you! 30 - 40 million maybe. Possibly send a player or 2 the other way for a smaller fee

[Pimboli]

Rafa isnt going to break up a team which is so close to greatness and part of that team is masch....if he's forced to do that he will walk...


Make absolutely no mistake about this no player will be sold without Rafas approval, you can bet your backside this was worked into his new contract.

With the exception of probably Torres, Gerrard, Riena and Rafas son Kuyt Rafa would sell anyone if the offer was good enough. You can bet your life that when the Alonso and Masch stories started he publically denied theyd be going anywhere but behind the scenes he'd have a hitlist drawn up of not only cheaper replacements for each but also would be earmarking any surplus cash for other players.

[Badman]

i think masch is like kuyt in rafas eyes - maybe not his son like dirk...but probably close. if anyone of the two goes it'll be alonso. i think it would take an astronomical fee from barca to get rafa to sell the masch...probably the 50m quoted. he sees masch as a mainstay in the team for the next 5-6 seasons so i'd be gobsmacked if he was sold

[Liverpool-law]

I'm not sure why some cannot understand this but he could go. Not for footballing reasons, not because Rafa wants rid of him or wants to cash in on him. For family reasons. Rafa will not stand in his way provided the deal is right if that's what he needs to do for his family. We'll have to watch this space but it's got nothing to do with rating him or not rating him.

[bono]

Rafa won`t sell either of them imo not until number 19 is in the bag anyway.

[bryanod]

To fill the void in the middle...

Mata-Valencia (not sure how much he'd cost)
or
Javi Martinez- 10 million

Sergio Aguero up front Thank you! 30 - 40 million maybe. Possibly send a player or 2 the other way for a smaller fee

1. Mata is a left winger.

2 Martinez cost 6million as a 16-year old without playing, talk more about 20million for him now.

3. Aguero would cost 40million at least, and wants something stupid lik 200grand a week!


Ok 50million I think you would have to sell Masch, but they would offer more lik 20-25 and it would be stupidly ridiculous to sell him for that much.

[Torres09]

As someone said it might be a case of having no choice but to get the best deal for Masch as it seems its all to do with his family.
Barca could throw Yaya Toure in a deal and it may not be so bad that is with around 15 million.

[trucker]

Have to be honest, I love tommy as a player, but his silence in the last few days while his agent is pimping him to Barcelona is wrong, Torres comes out and says he's going nowhere as does Reina, Arbeloa is honest and says he could go, Xabi is going to go but he's been diplomatic when asked, but Maschereno is content to have his agent whoreing him about and says nothing, if this is a ploy to get a pay rise he's really showing his true colours and you can put him in the same bag as his mutant mate up the M62.

[fermoyred80]

Have to be honest, I love tommy as a player, but his silence in the last few days while his agent is pimping him to Barcelona is wrong, Torres comes out and says he's going nowhere as does Reina, Arbeloa is honest and says he could go, Xabi is going to go but he's been diplomatic when asked, but Maschereno is content to have his agent whoreing him about and says nothing, if this is a ploy to get a pay rise he's really showing his true colours and you can put him in the same bag as his mutant mate up the M62.

A bit of loyalty for the club who saved him from West ham would not go astray

[RedMurph08]

Id take the money.... anything near 20mill and Toure.

[trucker]

Apparently he wants to be on the same reddies as Gerrard and Torres, get a f*ckin grip lad, there 2 of the top 5 players in the world, you have 1 decent game in every 3-4 games, like I said earlier really like his attitude on the pitch but he needs to be realistic, the thing is Barca dont even want him, Toure has agreed a new deal if reports today are to be believed.

[fernsred]

Apparently he wants to be on the same reddies as Gerrard and Torres, get a f*ckin grip lad, there 2 of the top 5 players in the world, you have 1 decent game in every 3-4 games, like I said earlier really like his attitude on the pitch but he needs to be realistic, the thing is Barca dont even want him, Toure has agreed a new deal if reports today are to be believed.

Compare this attitude with the one in the Torres interview thread. Unbelievable.

[up the pool]

alot of these agents should be shot on sight imo stirring up s**t is all they are good for!

[fermoyred80]

alot of these agents should be shot on sight imo stirring up s**t is all they are good for!

The agents work for the players and would not do any stirring without the players go ahead.

[up the pool]

The agents work for the players and would not do any stirring without the players go ahead.

not so sure about that most of them are only interested in their own pockets!!

[trucker]

not so sure about that most of them are only interested in their own pockets!!

More the reason that Mascherano should have came out and said something in the last 2 weeks.

[fermoyred80]

not so sure about that most of them are only interested in their own pockets!!

Ya ok meant the majority of agents but if it were not true would you not think the player would come straight out and say its bull.

[up the pool]

More the reason that Mascherano should have came out and said something in the last 2 weeks.

i thought recently he said he loved liverpool an all that why would he change his mind in 2 weeks its all agents bullshit testing the waters an shit im tellin ya! WELL I HOPE!!!

[trucker]

i thought recently he said he loved liverpool an all that why would he change his mind in 2 weeks its all agents bullshit testing the waters an shit im tellin ya! WELL I HOPE!!!

Agents dont whore their players around without the players knowledge, and if they do the player who loves the club so much should correct him.

[up the pool]

agents for south american players are as dodgy as fcuk if you think they are all sweetness and light you are badly missguided

[stamullen red]

Its that time or year again with the rumour mill in full flow,it is great when you hear that a player is leaving a rival club but crap when you hear that one of your own is being linked with another club.it can be very unsettling for us supporters to hear that torres,masch or alonso are been eyed up by the two big guns in spain.Rafa comes out and says that they are not for sale and what we want to hear is the players doing the same xabi and tommy should come out and say thanks but no thanks the agents hawking them around europe should be shot with balls of there own shite.

[up the pool]

Its that time or year again with the rumour mill in full flow,it is great when you hear that a player is leaving a rival club but crap when you hear that one of your own is being linked with another club.it can be very unsettling for us supporters to hear that torres,masch or alonso are been eyed up by the two big guns in spain.Rafa comes out and says that they are not for sale and what we want to hear is the players doing the same xabi and tommy should come out and say thanks but no thanks the agents hawking them around europe should be shot with balls of there own shite.

you are dead on there mate at the end of the day the players involved could put a stop to alot of this crap there is no doubht agents stirr alot of shit but the players could nip it in the bud if they wanted and save us fans having to type this sh**t on a fri night!

[AthloneScouser]

Aparently its his wife that cant hack it in England, thats what Mail suggest. I didnt know he was married.

[CF999]

Apparently he wants to be on the same reddies as Gerrard and Torres

Where's this from then?

[CF999]

Compare this attitude

What's this? The one you read about from the supposed ITK's on the internet?

Excellent. :)

Very informed aren't you.

[Aido82]

Saw in the gossip column on the bbc, that barca could offer 20mill + bojan (worth 15 million)
what ye reckon of this, if he wants to go then rafa wont take any shite, we need masher to come out and let us know what the story is

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1194319/Wantaway-Liverpool-midfielder-Mascherano-set-Barca-35m-deal.html

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Saw in the gossip column on the bbc, that barca could offer 20mill + bojan (worth 15 million)
what ye reckon of this, if he wants to go then rafa wont take any shite, we need masher to come out and let us know what the story is

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1194319/Wantaway-Liverpool-midfielder-Mascherano-set-Barca-35m-deal.html

I'd be reluctant to take that personally.We're not going to find an adequate replacement for masch with £20m (or with any amount for that matter) and Bojan has talent but if he turns out the same way as Dos Santos we're up shit creek.


How about Bojan+Toure+£35m;)

[fernsred]

Apparently he wants to be on the same reddies as Gerrard and Torres, get a f*ckin grip lad, there 2 of the top 5 players in the world, you have 1 decent game in every 3-4 games, like I said earlier really like his attitude on the pitch but he needs to be realistic, the thing is Barca dont even want him, Toure has agreed a new deal if reports today are to be believed.

Compare this attitude with the one in the Torres interview thread. Unbelievable.

What's this? The one you read about from the supposed ITK's on the internet?

Excellent. :)

Very informed aren't you.

I was commenting on truckers post mate which i took at face value. I don't go double checking info contained on everyones posts on this forum. i join in and discuss. Whats your problem ? Have a pop at someones knowledge and use fcuking smilies in the process.

[CF999]

I was commenting on truckers post mate which i took at face value. I don't go double checking info contained on everyones posts on this forum. i join in and discuss. Whats your problem ? Have a pop at someones knowledge and use fcuking smilies in the process.

You supposed that that was has attitude from just one post. Bit quick to judge from one post, which mightn't be true, isn't it?

No worries anyway "mate" :)

[fernsred]

You supposed that that was has attitude from just one post. Bit quick to judge from one post, which mightn't be true, isn't it?

No worries anyway "mate" :)

I didn't suppose anything, i compared the point raised to another players comments on money.

Enough said mate.

[fermoyred80]

I'd be reluctant to take that personally.We're not going to find an adequate replacement for masch with £20m (or with any amount for that matter) and Bojan has talent but if he turns out the same way as Dos Santos we're up shit creek.


How about Bojan+Toure+£35m;)

I dont rate Bojan that highly at all and he wouldn be able for the league imo. Just because he broke into the barca squad at 12 desn mean hes world class. Hes having a shocker of an u-21 tournament by all accounts. 35m Barca and well see about doing business

[JMurray#8]

Personally I don't think bojan could cut it in the pl for a few years, isn't physical enough. In the 2 games the under 21 spain squad have played he's been useless. IF masch goes, yaya toure + £30 million wouldn't be too bad, however I'd still prefer just to keep him.

[4tothefloor]

£30m + Toure or £35m + Busquets and I'd take it. Almost double our money and a quality ready made replacement. Would hate to see Masch go but if it's family reasons its only a matter of time anyway. What we'd definately want to avoid is losing both Alonso and Mascherano at the same time, be it this summer or the next one

[JMurray#8]

Never thought of sergio biscuits, was very impressed with him in the cl final. A good young player who I'd probably gamble on more than toure.

[trucker]

Toure is signing a new contract, Barca dont want Mascherano, him and his agent are just been greedy cnuts, him Tevez and Levazzi, the 3 most publisised will he wont he transfers this summer, the connection there greedy argie cnuts.He seems to forget we took him from West Hams subs bench we're he was rotting and that we let him go to the Olympics last year when we did'nt have to as he was an overage player causing him to miss a month of our season, to say im dissapointed in this situation would be an understatement. Mascherano's missus is homesick tell her to f*ck off back to Argentina and when River plate stump up £25m he'll be home.

[bobby benitez]

Toure is signing a new contract, Barca dont want mascherano, him and his agent are just been greedy cnuts, him Tevez and Levazzi, the 3 most publisised will he wont he transfers this summer, the connection there greedy argie cnuts. Mascherano's missus is homesick tell her to f*ck off back to the slums and when River plate stump up £25m he'll be home.

Which is it, his wife his home sick or his wife would be happy to stay if her husband got a rise?

[trucker]

Which is it, his wife his home sick or his wife would be happy to stay if her husband got a rise?

Thats the thing Bobby shes homesick but its amazing what medicine you can get for £120k a week these days.

[CF999]

him and his agent are just been greedy cnuts

How do you know this? Or are you just assuming?

[dubit10]

Toure is signing a new contract, Barca dont want Mascherano, him and his agent are just been greedy cnuts, him Tevez and Levazzi, the 3 most publisised will he wont he transfers this summer, the connection there greedy argie cnuts.He seems to forget we took him from West Hams subs bench we're he was rotting and that we let him go to the Olympics last year when we did'nt have to as he was an overage player causing him to miss a month of our season, to say im dissapointed in this situation would be an understatement. Mascherano's missus is homesick tell her to f*ck off back to Argentina and when River plate stump up £25m he'll be home.

And of course you know this for a fact? You mates with Mashers agent are you.:rolleyes:

[trucker]

And of course you know this for a fact? You mates with Mashers agent are you.:rolleyes:

Know what for a fact? That is agent has been whoring him around Europe, yes I do, where've you been on the moon for the last fortnight?

[trucker]

How do you know this? Or are you just assuming?

He has asked to be put on the same wages as Gerrard, the new tax system gas been introduced into the UK in there recent budget, it basically means anybody on over £150k a year pays half of everything they earn, and alot of players are expecting the clubs to pay the difference in there net wages.

[rushiekop]

He has asked to be put on the same wages as Gerrard, the new tax system gas been introduced into the UK in there recent budget, it basically means anybody on over £150k a year pays half of everything they earn, and alot of players are expecting the clubs to pay the difference in there net wages.

Interesting wasn't aware of this I wonder if this is one of the reasons none of the big boys seem interested in signing for English clubs.

[graham]

Interesting wasn't aware of this I wonder if this is one of the reasons none of the big boys seem interested in signing for English clubs.

I believe so

[arklowred]

Interesting wasn't aware of this I wonder if this is one of the reasons none of the big boys seem interested in signing for English clubs.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/liverpool/5578084/Xabi-Alonso-warns-that-tax-will-drive-top-players-away.html

[bono]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/liverpool/5578084/Xabi-Alonso-warns-that-tax-will-drive-top-players-away.html

Spare a tought for the poor lads.

Funny he`ll comment on somthing like this while everyone else waits with baited breath.:confused:

[SUPERFAN]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/liverpool/5578084/Xabi-Alonso-warns-that-tax-will-drive-top-players-away.html

interesting article that.
fcuk sake xabi,he's still going to be on 3.5 million euros a year net,he's coming across as a right mingebag there.he was happy enough to sign his 4.7 million euro a year contract 2 years ago,you have to take the good with the bad.
nando saying all the right things as usual,fcukin love that man...

[REDHEART]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/liverpool/5578084/Xabi-Alonso-warns-that-tax-will-drive-top-players-away.html

ffs if they don't already earn enough.

[4tothefloor]

interesting article that.
fcuk sake xabi,he's still going to be on 3.5 million euros a year net,he's coming across as a right mingebag there.he was happy enough to sign his 4.7 million euro a year contract 2 years ago,you have to take the good with the bad.
nando saying all the right things as usual,fcukin love that man...
Sounds to me like Xabi has the hump over the new tax system and wants a pay rise.......

[Niall]

Liverpool coach Mauricio Pellegrino has failed to rule out the possibility of Javier Mascherano leaving Anfield.

The Argentina midfielder is said to be a target of Barcelona and it is claimed his agent, Walter Tamer, met with officials of the Spanish club on Wednesday.

Reds manager Rafa Benitez is adamant that Mascherano will not depart the side as he sees the 25-year-old as a vital component of his squad.

However, Pellegrino concedes 'anything is possible' in football, as Barca and also Real Madrid continue to be linked with an offer for Mascherano's services.

"Every time negotiations are underway, money always makes the decision," Pellegrino told sport.es.

"Anyway, Mascherano is such an important player for us, like other ones can be for Barca.

"I do not want to say anything about it because we already know that in football's world, nothing is impossible."

[dubit10]

Know what for a fact? That is agent has been whoring him around Europe, yes I do, where've you been on the moon for the last fortnight?

You need to stop believing what you read in the papers so much. All of a sudden Mascherano is a cnut :rolleyes: Hope ye remember that when he puts in some fantastic performances next season on the way to number 19.:)

[trucker]

You need to stop believing what you read in the papers so much. All of a sudden Mascherano is a cnut :rolleyes: Hope ye remember that when he puts in some fantastic performances next season on the way to number 19.:)

I dont read papers but then again you probably believe that Real in for Xabi is paper talk also I bet, his agent has been telling anybody who'll listen including people at the club that Barca want him, Barca dont want him he wants a pay rise, he is a greedy cnut and i'll stand over that, i'm not questionihg his ability, but do you think if he played for the mancs or chelsea that he would have been allowed to play at the Olympics, he needs to show some loyalty to the manager and the club that rescued his career. To be honest I'd sell him at this stage because this will happen again in 2 years when he wants another pay rise, if River Plate stump up £25m he can go and his wife who's "homesick"(note: gets better with double your money pay rise for husband) will be happy also.

[Niall]

I dont read papers but then again you probably believe that Real in for Xabi is paper talk also I bet, his agent has been telling anybody who'll listen including people at the club that Barca want him, Barca dont want him he wants a pay rise, he is a greedy cnut and i'll stand over that, i'm not questionihg his ability, but do you think if he played for the mancs or chelsea that he would have been allowed to play at the Olympics, he needs to show some loyalty to the manager and the club that rescued his career. To be honest I'd sell him at this stage because this will happen again in 2 years when he wants another pay rise, if River Plate stump up £25m he can go and his wife who's "homesick"(note: gets better with double your money pay rise for husband) will be happy also.

Totally agree with Trucker on this. Was it not so long ago Mascherano was giving an interview saying how much he owes Rafa and the club/fans etc for rescuing him from West Ham. Then all of a sudden he's saying if the club accepted a bid for him he'd go then next minute his agents spouting on about Barce. Come on doesn't take a genius to work out the bottom line here is money money money!

[dubit10]

I dont read papers but then again you probably believe that Real in for Xabi is paper talk also I bet, his agent has been telling anybody who'll listen including people at the club that Barca want him, Barca dont want him he wants a pay rise, he is a greedy cnut and i'll stand over that, i'm not questionihg his ability, but do you think if he played for the mancs or chelsea that he would have been allowed to play at the Olympics, he needs to show some loyalty to the manager and the club that rescued his career. To be honest I'd sell him at this stage because this will happen again in 2 years when he wants another pay rise, if River Plate stump up £25m he can go and his wife who's "homesick"(note: gets better with double your money pay rise for husband) will be happy also.

Yeah yeah. But how do you "know" this stuff? Because the newspapers say so? or do you know someone who knows his agent,wife,Masher himself. And don't give me the "his agent has been pimping him around" line. All agents are scum but that does'nt make Mascherano a as you say "cnut". Also as far as i can see most of the people inside the club don't have a clue about what's really going on.

[fermoyred80]

English football is gonna go down hill big time since the tax rate has risen and the big players will suffer so why not stay or come to England, Its easy to say sure there makin enough but we are all makin enough with our skill level with wahtever job we are in, if the money is in the game why not get he most of it,

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

PA SPORT

JAVIER MASCHERANO has revealed he is happy at Liverpool.

Reports have emerged from Anfield that Mascherano could be allowed to leave in a £25million switch.

And the Argentine midfielder said: "It is extremely flattering to be recognised by such big clubs.

"I feel comfortable in Liverpool, but always it is good to know that teams such as Barca or Madrid are interested in one. Personally, I am very grateful."

Mascherano told reporters in Spain he believes the Premier League is stronger than La Liga, but he rates Barcelona and Lionel Messi as the best team with the best player in the world.

He also revealed his old connections with new Real Madrid coach Manuel Pellegrini and added: "He deserves the Madrid job.

"Pellegrini is a big trainer. I had him at River Plate and I have excellent memories of him. "The work that he has been doing in Villarreal has been of of a high standard and, undoubtedly, Real Madrid have been right to hire him." ends...

[JMurray#8]

Thats good news, Xabi last week, Mascherano this week. Signing of Glen Johnson, funny how quickly things can change...

[Goulet]

Thats good news, Xabi last week, Mascherano this week. Signing of Glen Johnson, funny how quickly things can change...

Theres a long summer ahead. i fear will will spend more of the summer trying to keep our big players than signing big players. might do well to keep masch though.

[Phil!]

http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=goal_barcas_economic_adviser&prov=goal&type=lgns

Hopefully stayin. Dont wanna lose any top players

[Niall]

Trucker might not be far off the mark after all.

Mirror Sport understands that the root of the Argentine’s (Mascherano) unhappiness at Anfield is the fact that he is paid considerably less than the majority of the ability to set up chances for the former England star.

[Niall]

I am very proud and thankful for the interest from Barcelona and Real Madrid. It's good for me to have these two teams interested in me," he told Don Balon.

"Both teams are very important but at this moment I think that Barcelona is a little bit better and that's why they've won all that they have."

[Kop On]

Trucker might not be far off the mark after all.

Mirror Sport understands that the root of the Argentine’s (Mascherano) unhappiness at Anfield is the fact that he is paid considerably less than the majority of the ability to set up chances for the former England star.

Read the above - The Mirror can't even string a proper sentence together never mind be a credible source!

[Niall]

Read the above - The Mirror can't even string a proper sentence together never mind be a credible source!

So all these stories are being made up so? Poor Masch:(

[graham]

They probably are made up. He took his time in fairness to speak out. I think his agent has been playing games over his wages all along

[Niall]

They probably are made up. He took his time in fairness to speak out. I think his agent has been playing games over his wages all along

So they aren't made up then. Bottom line himself and his agent are making them up to get a pay rise.

[Kop On]

So they aren't made up then. Bottom line himself and his agent are making them up to get a pay rise.

Until you see something on the official site don't believe anything you read anywhere else..

Don't forget a few months ago every website was claiming Rafa was going to be sacked within 24 hours and the bookies even suspended betting on it!

The papers will print anything, they have to fill column inches and I definitely wouldn't pay any attention to a paper who don't even bother to proof read an article they print ...

[graham]

Is it true he currently only earns 25k a week?

[Liverpool-law]

I think it's 30 grand a week. Give the man an improved contract and let's put this saga to bed. Particularly IF Xabi is going.

[graham]

If its only 25 or 30K a week then thats nuts. They should triple his wages

[Paddser]

If its only 25 or 30K a week then thats nuts. They should triple his wages

That's what I said to my boss last week. Worked a treat! :rolleyes:

[F@ces]

I've also heard Liverpool fans p*ssed off with Masch coz "he wants to leave". Yes, that's right, based on some paper & internet rumours a few have turned against him??? :confused:

All they're trying to do is stir sh*t. Don't believe a thing until someone walks or talks.

[bobby benitez]

If true the club has kind of brought this on themselves by offering improved contracts to Torres and Gerrard when they were already tied down to long contracts.

Offer Alonso and Masch massive bonuses for winning the league and let that be the end of it.

[LFC_Mark]

Toure to sign new deal by end of the week?

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11827_5397017,00.html

Barcelona midfielder Yaya Toure is poised to sign an extension to his contract with the UEFA Champions League winners.

Toure's agent, Dimitri Seluk, has confirmed that the Ivory Coast international is keen to commit his future to the Camp Nou club.

Seluk admitted that there were difficulties earlier in the negotiations but is confident his client's qualities are now fully appreciated by Pep Guardiola.

Toure, brother of Arsenal centre-back Kolo Toure, had been linked with a possible summer switch to the Gunners, Manchester City and Manchester United.

Seluk told radio station Onda Cero: "We know the proposals of all the parties and the main thing is OK.

Important

"If all goes well, towards the end of the week we will sign the contract.

"The road was not easy during the last few weeks but now Barcelona have realised that Yaya is an important member of their squad and they value his services."

Barca have been strongly linked with a summer swoop for Liverpool's combative midfielder Javier Mascherano.

But Seluk is confident that Toure would be able to keep the Argentina international out of the starting XI should he leave Anfield this summer.

He added: "This is not a problem for Yaya Toure, but for the Argentinian because he could be on the bench for many minutes."

[Fowler-9-]

I thought all along he was looking for a pay rise. It was reported in the mirror this morning he's earning only 25,000 a week, surely the Argentine captain deserves to be level par with some of the bigger earners at the club.

[fermoyred80]

I thought all along he was looking for a pay rise. It was reported in the mirror this morning he's earning only 25,000 a week, surely the Argentine captain deserves to be level par with some of the bigger earners at the club.

And if true is that after the 50p tax that has just been introduced?? But then again he s the one who signed that contratc and was happy with that figure and now he has got his head turned by his agent and the spanish clubs

[MrsPepe]

25,000 isnt right surely? is lucas on more money then that. so thats what all this is about. Too right he deserves a pay rise

[Fowler-9-]

And if true is that after the 50p tax that has just been introduced?? But then again he s the one who signed that contratc and was happy with that figure and now he has got his head turned by his agent and the spanish clubs

I don't know how true the reports are but when your carear is fading away in West Hams reserves surely you will take any offer Liverpool put before you. The man has eanred his pay rise, he has become a mainstay in the spine of our team, he should be rewarded same way as gerrard Nando and Dirk, obviously not go over the odds but a player of his callibre should be on atleast 60-70 grand in todays market.

[fermoyred80]

I don't know how true the reports are but when your carear is fading away in West Hams reserves surely you will take any offer Liverpool put before you. The man has eanred his pay rise, he has become a mainstay in the spine of our team, he should be rewarded same way as gerrard Nando and Dirk, obviously not go over the odds but a player of his callibre should be on atleast 60-70 grand in todays market.

I agree but did he not come on loan originally and only signed permanent in Jan 08 so had the choice to get more money and even put a clause in his contract to get a rise depending on his performance but as you see with Tevez and alot of the south americian and africian players they are easily swayed and dont have much loyalty when it comes to money

[Fowler-9-]

I agree but did he not come on loan originally and only signed permanent in Jan 08 so had the choice to get more money and even put a clause in his contract to get a rise depending on his performance but as you see with Tevez and alot of the south americian and africian players they are easily swayed and dont have much loyalty when it comes to money

Whilst I agree with you on the south American/Africans being swayed by money, i wouldn't put Javier in that category I have great time for him, he's passionate and always gives a good graft, I honestly don't think he will leave.

You'd have to look at it from his point of view, he came here with Tevez and of the two he has developed more and has become captain of his national team, yet his mate Tevez is now earning 5 times his wages. You look around the dressing room and see Dossenna and lucas topping your wages to prop up the bench or look at Babel trying **** all but atleast on double your pay.

He's well within his rights to look for a pay rise.

[MrsPepe]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5398649,00.html

With the greatest respect to you Messi, please shut up

[graham]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5398649,00.html

With the greatest respect to you Messi, please shut up

I think this interview was a few weeks ago and they're printing it again. Either that or else Messi is repeating himself. Either way, yaya toure is about to sign a new contract so thats the end of that

[MrsPepe]

I think this interview was a few weeks ago and they're printing it again. Either that or else Messi is repeating himself. Either way, yaya toure is about to sign a new contract so thats the end of that

excellent:)

just seen it today

[justydawson]

Lionel Messi has again urged Liverpool midfielder Javier Mascherano to consider a move to Barcelona.

skysports

I think we should urge messi to come to anfield

[graham]

It doesn't really make a difference what Messi says to the press. If it did, we'd have David Villa

[loppy]

i think this asch story smacks of an agent looking for a pay rise for his player, in fairness he is in the lower bracket in terms of wages so maybe deserves a bump up.

[Ron1892]

i think this asch story smacks of an agent looking for a pay rise for his player, in fairness he is in the lower bracket in terms of wages so maybe deserves a bump up.

agree with you mate... if he is in the lower class of wages id give him the pay rise and also give it to xabi too...

[AthloneScouser]

Well MR Messi, If you want to play with Masch, I suggest you hand in a transfer request and your desire to play alongside him, Problem solved :D:D:D
We can all dream!

[Bren100]

Well MR Messi, If you want to play with Masch, I suggest you hand in a transfer request
Nice!


I think the bal is still in the air over Masch tbh. I hope he stays because Rafa is building something special (even if he drives me mad with this rotation and resting players) but I think its fair to say he wouldnt be moving for the money, it would be the better q-wality of life for his family (language barriers and general contentness). Either way, I would still wish him well.

[mascherIANO]

toure signs new deal at barca :D

[graham]

toure signs new deal at barca :D

Is this for certain? Great news:)

[mascherIANO]

Is this for certain? Great news:)

its on sky sports news

[JMurray#8]

Sorce sky sports website: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_5405729,00.html

Barcelona president Joan Laporta has reiterated his interest in Liverpool midfielder Javier Mascherano.

The Argentine is highly rated by the UEFA Champions League, Primera Liga and Copa del Rey winners as they look to reinforce ahead of the defence of an unprecedented Treble.

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez is desperate to hold onto the defence-minded Mascherano, who is an international team-mate of Barcelona star Lionel Messi, and insists he is not for sale at any price.

But Laporta, who handed holding midfielder Yaya Toure a new contract on Saturday, remains a fan of the 25-year-old, and could yet consider making the Premier League Reds an offer.

He told icat FM: "Mascherano is a close friend of Leo Messi. We will see what happens. He's a player I like very much."

Mascherano has previously confessed he is uncertain if his long-term future lies on Merseyside to increase speculation he could leave Anfield when his contract expires.

Real Madrid have also been linked with the ex-West Ham, River Plate and Corinthians player as the Bernabeu giants continue their lavish summer spending.

Thats fine be a fan of him but think again if you think he's be at barca next season. "Mascherano is a close friend of Leo Messi. We will see what happens" - I'm sure masch has a lot of close friends, if tevez goes to city does that mean he'll follow? no! so barca politely f**k off!

[Martin88]

I'd rate our midfield as the best in the league. Hopefully all this speculation about Masch is just trying to negotiate a better contract.

[vincenzo]

I'd rate our midfield as the best in the league. Hopefully all this speculation about Masch is just trying to negotiate a better contract.
Agree with you there.It will be hard enough to replace Xabi if he goes, but trying to replace Xabi and Masch would be impossible.

[JMurray#8]

Javier Mascherano expects compatriot Emiliano Insua to take his game to another level next season after an impressive 2008-09.
The 20-year-old made 13 appearances at left-back last campaign despite the presence of Fabio Aurelio and Andrea Dossena.

Fellow Argentine Mascherano thinks Insua will give his more experienced counterparts even more of a run for their money when the new season gets underway.

"He's been doing well," Mascherano told LFC Magazine. "Obviously he is a young player so can still improve and get better.

"It isn't easy to be playing for the Liverpool first team at just 20-years-old. I'm really happy for him."

Insua initially joined Liverpool on loan from Boca Juniors in January 2007 before the deal was made permanent later in the same year.

Mascherano added: "Emiliano didn't play first-team football in Argentina, so to come here at such a young age and make the breakthrough is a great achievement.

"It would have been easier for him had he played first-team football in Argentina. Everything was new to Insua when he came here. But after just two years he is playing really well whenever he gets into the first team."

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N164927090702-0842.htm

Could this be a little sign that he's definitely staying, by talking about the young talented Insua it might suggest that he'll be here next season. A player who is leaving surely wouldn't give an interview about the exciting prospect at the club. Am I reading too much into this?

[RedMurph08]

Could this be a little sign that he's definitely staying, by talking about the young talented Insua it might suggest that he'll be here next season. A player who is leaving surely wouldn't give an interview about the exciting prospect at the club. Am I reading too much into this?

Unfortunately not he is currently in negotiations with Barca at the min. :(

Check this out www.munsterrugbysfootyfirsts.ie

[JMurray#8]

Unfortunately not he is currently in negotiations with Barca at the min. :(

Check this out www.munsterrugbysfootyfirsts.ie

Ah the old reliable munster rugby source, its official now! I know west ham were first to report about Rocky Elsom leaving leinster...

[trucker]

Unfortunately not he is currently in negotiations with Barca at the min. :(

Check this out www.munsterrugbysfootyfirsts.ie

:)

[tosullivan]

Masch has confirmed he is staying stating he has 3 more years left on his contract.

However, I think he would be easier to replace than Alonso even though I think Masch is one of the best in the world in his position

[trucker]

Masch has confirmed he is staying stating he has 3 more years left on his contract.


When did he say this?Source?

[F@ces]

When did he say this?Source?

+1?

[dking]

we all want to know now :)

[Ron1892]

Masch has confirmed he is staying stating he has 3 more years left on his contract.

However, I think he would be easier to replace than Alonso even though I think Masch is one of the best in the world in his position

I love people who quote stuff with out a source...it makes it more fun.:mad:

[red1965]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1197581/Mascherano-stuns-Benitez-Liverpool-midfielder-pressing-Barcelona.html?ITO=1490

heres one saying the opposite
personally believe its all crap with the media taking the heat of the scum
only 6 more weeks of sh1te left

[tosullivan]

sorry lads, but I seen it on sky sports last week. He said he has 3 more years left and he is happy a club like Barca are interested in him but he's not leaving mid contract.

I don't have a link as it was on the Sky Sports text

[born red 79]

sorry lads, but I seen it on sky sports last week. He said he has 3 more years left and he is happy a club like Barca are interested in him but he's not leaving mid contract.

I don't have a link as it was on the Sky Sports text

I saw that there too!

[CF999]

The daily mail have really set out to wind us up this summer. Horrible shower of wan*ers

[RedMurph08]

http://www.footylatest.com/barcelona-bid-40m-euros-for-liverpools-mascherano/7116


Anyone hear anything or is this more BS? :confused::confused:

[JMurray#8]

Doesn't sound to me like the most realible source in the world, I reckon these people just get bored so they copy and paste the same stories from last week and the week before that etc because I read that story all summer in pretty much the same words.

[trucker]

His silence is really starting to piss me off.

[JMurray#8]

I don't quite mind his silence so much right now considering there isn't as much speculation as there was therefore there is not too much need to say anything. I think we should take it he's definitely staying, I'd be more worried but alonso than mascherano, its his silence thats more annoying.

[gav003]

There are 2 sides to this- yes, ok he seems to be on a low wage BUT we saved him from the hammers and he's moved to be his countries captain based on the performances at Liverpool.
I'd be more worried about the Xabi situation.

[JMurray#8]

I know you can say £30,000 a week is loads (which it is) but in a way I can see where he is coming from when he's asking for more. He's definitely one of the teams most important players so in his eyes he should be paid on the same level as them, maybe he feels like he's not being as appreciated as much as alonso, carra, reina, gerrard, torres etc. He knows he can get much much more elsewhere but I believe he wants to stay. Fair enough when he first came it would have been crazy to throw money at him but since he's signed I think he's done enough to at least be on the same level as alonso, reina, torres etc.

[LFC_Mark]

I know you can say £30,000 a week is loads (which it is) but in a way I can see where he is coming from when he's asking for more. He's definitely one of the teams most important players so in his eyes he should be paid on the same level as them, maybe he feels like he's not being as appreciated as much as alonso, carra, reina, gerrard, torres etc. He knows he can get much much more elsewhere but I believe he wants to stay. Fair enough when he first came it would have been crazy to throw money at him but since he's signed I think he's done enough to at least be on the same level as alonso, reina, torres etc.

+1

[Fowler-9-]

I know you can say £30,000 a week is loads (which it is) but in a way I can see where he is coming from when he's asking for more. He's definitely one of the teams most important players so in his eyes he should be paid on the same level as them, maybe he feels like he's not being as appreciated as much as alonso, carra, reina, gerrard, torres etc. He knows he can get much much more elsewhere but I believe he wants to stay. Fair enough when he first came it would have been crazy to throw money at him but since he's signed I think he's done enough to at least be on the same level as alonso, reina, torres etc.

While I agree with you on the pay rise issue, Torres is on par with Gerrard in wages and the two of them are rightfully our top earners, to have Masch on level playing with them would mean a 90 grand pay rise, which is money I don't think we have. I'd certainly hope the club could give him about 60 grand a week to hold on to him however.

[CHARMAC]

While I agree with you on the pay rise issue, Torres is on par with Gerrard in wages and the two of them are rightfully our top earners, to have Masch on level playing with them would mean a 90 grand pay rise, which is money I don't think we have. I'd certainly hope the club could give him about 60 grand a week to hold on to him however.

I don't thing 60k will swing it, when you look at Glen Johnson reported to be on 96k a week, I think Masch should be on near enough the same if we want to keep him

[AthloneScouser]

I agree that Masch is not on a lot of money when you look at what others are on.He is an extremly important player for us. I know Torres got 2 increases since he joined, and fair enough there well deserved, but maybe if there was a wage cap we wouldnt even have this problem with Masch.

[bono]

I don't thing 60k will swing it, when you look at Glen Johnson reported to be on 96k a week, I think Masch should by on near enough the same if we want to keep him

+1

He is the best in that position in the world & his wages should reflect that IMO.

[Pimboli]

Masch definately should be on more money but dont forget no one put a gun to his head to sign that contract originally which he was all too glad to do.

On a side note it amazes me that if a player signs a contract and does well he demands a pay rise or they're off but if he turns out to be complete crap the club cant look for a pay cut or in some cases offload them as no one will pay the wage they are on.

[bono]

On a side note it amazes me that if a player signs a contract and does well he demands a pay rise or they're off but if he turns out to be complete crap the club cant look for a pay cut or in some cases offload them as no one will pay the wage they are on.

Yeah have to agree its baffling really.:confused:

This is also the same player that was in limbo until Rafa saved his career which is even more baffling that he would put the club in that position.
Still I think he should get the pay rise.

[Niall]

RAFA BENITEZ will tell Javier Mascherano he will not be allowed to leave Liverpool when the Argentinian midfielder returns to pre-season training later this week.

The future of Mascherano – who became a father for the second time at the weekend – has been in question throughout the summer after the 25-year-old told the Reds boss that his wife was suffering from homesickness.

But with the likelihood of Xabi Alonso quitting Anfield increasing with every passing day, Benitez would be loathe to lose Mascherano as well and see his entire first choice central midfield wiped out in the space of a few weeks.

Mascherano has been attracting interest from Barcelona with Nou Camp boss Pep Guardiola keen to employ him behind Andres Iniesta and Xavi in the European champions’ engine room.

Benitez is desperate to hang on to the Argentina captain though and has already made it clear he is not looking to cash in on a player he regards as one of the finest defensive midfielders in world football.

With Mascherano due to join up with his team mates at pre-season training in Switzerland in the coming days Benitez will take the opportunity to tell the former West Ham man that he won’t be going anywhere because he is needed for Liverpool’s assault on the Premier League title in the coming season.

Contrary to reports, there are as yet no plans to offer the player a new contract as a sweetener with Mascherano just 18 months into a four year deal signed in February 2008.

Benitez is hoping that the lure of possible glory with Liverpool rather than an increased pay packet will be enough to convince Mascherano that his future remains at Anfield.

Only if Mascherano commits himself to the Liverpool cause once again will a new contract become a possibility.

[Pimboli]

The future of Mascherano – who became a father for the second time at the weekend – has been in question throughout the summer after the 25-year-old told the Reds boss that his wife was suffering from homesickness.


Is Mashers wife Spanish? As if not the whole homesickness things doesnt hold water as last time I checked Spain was further away from Argentina than England.

[eoinlfc101]

Is Mashers wife Spanish? As if not the whole homesickness things doesnt hold water as last time I checked Spain was further away from Argentina than England.


yes but spain is the same lifestyle if you have ever been to buenos aires you would think you where in a spanish city

[x43r0]

If Guardiola wants masch to fit in behind xavi and iniesta where would that leave toure? If the answer to that is Anfield then i wouldn't mind

[eoinlfc101]

If Guardiola wants masch to fit in behind xavi and iniesta where would that leave toure? If the answer to that is Anfield then i wouldn't mind

toure has just signed a new contract that wont be happening

[wertyu]

ya ya won't go go! new contract was just signed!

[x43r0]

Then I can't see why they would want to spend big money on a DM when their forst choice one has just re-signed

[graham]

I think the Mascherano story died down. I think he's 100% gonna stay and get a pay rise. He's been away with his pregnant wife all summer so he hasn't spoken to the media

[Dave_10]

Would they not be thinkin of droppin toure into centre half and havin masch as defensive midfielder? thats the reason i thought they were lookin for him. think he played there in the champions league final.

story seems to have died down the last couple of weeks, hopefully it stays that way!

[stevieg05]

Very surprised to hear he was on such low wages. Seeing as we signed him for what was it £18Million? Usually the price tag is relative to the wage. Does masch hav the same agent as tevez? I really hope he doesn't!!

[Molby Is a Legend]

If Guardiola wants masch to fit in behind xavi and iniesta where would that leave toure? If the answer to that is Anfield then i wouldn't mind

Ya Ya Toure wil lbe used in a more central defence role this season if MAsch goes to barca, He played there a couple of times for them last year and Pep wants to use him more this season

[eoinlfc101]

i think this is the end to this saga

from sky sports

Barcelona have made tentative enquiries regarding the availability of Juventus midfielder Christian Poulsen.

The Denmark international is widely tipped to be on his way out of Stadio Olimpico this summer, having slipped down the pecking order at the Turin giants.

The recent arrivals of Brazilian duo Diego and Felipe Melo have only served to cast further doubt on his future and a move to pastures new is expected to materialise sooner rather than later.

Spanish giants Barcelona are among the first to express an interest, keen to take Poulsen, who enjoyed a productive spell at Sevilla prior to his 2008 switch to Juve, back to the Primera Liga.

Contact has been made between the Catalan club and Juve, with Poulsen's agent confirming talks have been held.

"There has been a request from a Spanish agent relating to Barcelona," Jorn Bonnesen told bold.dk.

"He asked whether Christian would be interested in joining Barcelona.

"You never know what will happen, but Juventus' sporting director (Alessio Seccio) has also admitted to being in contact with Barca."

Options
For now Bonnesen is reluctant to speculate on a situation which could yet come to nothing, insisting Poulsen is happy at Juventus and has given no indication that he is actively looking to secure a move elsewhere.

"Our belief for now is that Christian will not be going anywhere," he added.

"It is only if something very attractive comes up that we might consider our options. Barcelona would obviously be very attractive, but we have nothing to deal with as yet.

"At the moment, Christian is 100 per cent focused on Juventus.

"He is good enough to play and it is now up to him to decide whether he wants to stay and fight for a place.

"He is a confident player. He also has three years left on his contract at Juventus so he is in no rush."

[graham]

Mascherano returns for pre seaseon today. I reckon he'll get an improved contract and stay. But I don't think this is the last we will hear of this. I think this saga will be back again next summer. Mascherano has the same agent as Tevez, I think the man is ruthless and I think he had everything to do with Tevez leaving United for City. Leaving United for one, and City being the chosen destination too dispite interest from other top clubs.

[Kop On]

Mascherano returns for pre seaseon today. I reckon he'll get an improved contract and stay. But I don't think this is the last we will hear of this. I think this saga will be back again next summer. Mascherano has the same agent as Tevez, I think the man is ruthless and I think he had everything to do with Tevez leaving United for City. Leaving United for one, and City being the chosen destination too dispite interest from other top clubs.

If you're referring to Kia Joorabchian there mate then as far as I'm aware he has nothing to do with Mascherano anymore. Not since he signed a permanent deal with us.

Joorabchian "owned" Tevez & Masch's sporting rights when he brought them to England. However the premier league changed the rules to stop this happening and that's no longer allowed. As soon as Masch signed a deal with us Joorabchian got his transfer fee and that's the end of it.

Similarly with Tevez, Man City pay the £25M fee to Joorabchian and then he's finished with Tevez.

It was a ridiculous set up from the very start that instead of Tevez & Masch belonging to a club they belonged to Joorabchian if that makes sense!

[graham]

If you're referring to Kia Joorabchian there mate then as far as I'm aware he has nothing to do with Mascherano anymore. Not since he signed a permanent deal with us.

Joorabchian "owned" Tevez & Masch's sporting rights when he brought them to England. However the premier league changed the rules to stop this happening and that's no longer allowed. As soon as Masch signed a deal with us Joorabchian got his transfer fee and that's the end of it.

Similarly with Tevez, Man City pay the £25M fee to Joorabchian and then he's finished with Tevez.

It was a ridiculous set up from the very start that instead of Tevez & Masch belonging to a club they belonged to Joorabchian if that makes sense!

I just looked it up. Actually your right. The reason I made this mistake is because I saw Kia Joorabchian on Sky News talking about Mascherano on Tuesday. He said "He's happy at LFC but the transfer window is open for a few more weeks so who knows". I thought because of this, he was still his agent. I googled it there and Masch's agent is some fella called Walter Tamer

[Nando 125mph]

Considering our financial troubles, Alonso wanting to go its no surprise all these stories are cropping up as I doubt its hard to get a comment or two out from an agent pimping his players.

Not saying Id agree to it but £25m-£30m for him with Jay Spearing being given a chance to do the job in CM someone who would die for first team spot is a possibility.

I now eagerly await the 'Spearings crap' 'Mashers the greatest player since sliced bread and is going nowhere not even for £100m' backlash to that sugestion ;)

While i do think Spearing should be given a chance, Im not sure he is the option for the short term. Certainly not if we want to challenge... However i would definitely like to see him given a chance ahead of Lucas.

Basically if Mash were to go id like someone capable to be brought in a a direct first team replacement, with and rest for the replacement giving spearing his chance. Or also in some cup games etc.

[Kop On]

I just looked it up. Actually your right. The reason I made this mistake is because I saw Kia Joorabchian on Sky News talking about Mascherano on Tuesday. He said "He's happy at LFC but the transfer window is open for a few more weeks so who knows". I thought because of this, he was still his agent. I googled it there and Masch's agent is some fella called Walter Tamer

To be honest they're all the same anyway, they get a cut out of every transfer fee so I've no doubt Mr. Tamer would be pretty keen to secure Masch a big money move somewhere else ...

[fermoyred80]

I just looked it up. Actually your right. The reason I made this mistake is because I saw Kia Joorabchian on Sky News talking about Mascherano on Tuesday. He said "He's happy at LFC but the transfer window is open for a few more weeks so who knows". I thought because of this, he was still his agent. I googled it there and Masch's agent is some fella called Walter Tamer

I saw that too but they had his name and former owner/agent under it on SSN

[CHARMAC]

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2009/07/17/liverpool-fc-latest-in-demand-javier-mascherano-returns-to-the-fold-92534-24174210/

Liverpool FC latest: In-demand Javier Mascherano returns to the fold
Jul 17 2009 by Ian Doyle, Liverpool Daily Post
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JAVIER MASCHERANO joined up with the Liverpool squad in Switzerland yesterday – with Rafael Benitez determined to hold on to the midfielder.

Mascherano’s arrival at Liverpool’s pre-season training camp was delayed after he became a father for the second time last weekend.

The midfielder has been courted by European champions Barcelona throughout the summer, with Lionel Messi urging his fellow Argentine to make the move to the Nou Camp.

But Benitez has made it clear Mascherano will be expected to honour the remaining two years of his contract, particularly as Xabi Alonso seems likely to leave for Real Madrid in the near future.

Alonso, along with the remainder of Liverpool’s Spanish contingent and left-back Andrea Dossena, is due to join up with the squad on Sunday after the friendly with Rapid Vienna in the Austrian capital before flying to the Far East for next week’s two friendlies against Thailand and Singapore.

Meanwhile, Lucas reckons Liverpool’s next title challenge starts with the work the squad are doing during pre-season in Switzerland.

“This training camp is the most important week in terms of fitness,” said the Brazilian midfielder. “If we can get the fitness as soon as possible we will see the benefits at the end of the season.

“We have been training a lot, double sessions every day, but we are going about things in the right way.”

Benitez yesterday took time out from the training camp in Switzerland to make a flying visit to the Sandor Karoly Football Academy of MTK Hungaria, with whom Liverpool have formed a special relationship.

The Anfield outfit have recently taken five MTK youngsters on trial, and Benitez was hugely impressed by an academy that has already helped groom Liverpool quartet Krisztian Nemeth, Peter Gulacsi, Andras Simon and Zsolt Poloskei.

“My colleagues reported that the people here are doing a first class job and I have wanted to see this academy for a long time,” said Benitez. “It's a well organised system with an excellent training staff – just as I expected.”

[Rover 609]

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&family=editorial&assetType=image&p=liverpool%20fc&src=standard#1

[LFC_Mark]

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&family=editorial&assetType=image&p=liverpool%20fc&src=standard#1

great stuff hopefully he stays now :D

[mascherIANO]

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&family=editorial&assetType=image&p=liverpool%20fc&src=standard#1

good to see him back..

[AthloneScouser]

Him and Arbeloa could be signing new contract extension son

[Fowler's God]

From Sky Sports Transfer Clockwatch:

08.30 Liverpool midfielder Javier Mashcerano is keen to secure a move to Spain as he has grown "tired of life in England", according to his agent.

[Bren100]

Quote that stood out for me from his agent on SSN web page; if its true you cant blame him

"His wife has not been given a permanent visa. She has to go through an odyssey each time she wants to go. "

[MrsPepe]

Bloody agent again:mad:. He will probably use the wife is not happy bla bla bla mantra they are all so fond of spouting.

[F@ces]

From TIA (http://www.thisisanfield.com/topstory/2009/07/unhappy-mascherano-%e2%80%9cwants-spain-move%e2%80%9d/).

This agent is a bell-end.


Javier Mascherano’s agent says his player his unhappy with life in England and wants a move to Spain this summer, preferably Barcelona.

The Liverpool midfielder has been linked with a big money move to the Nou Camp all summer and his agent today confirmed reports that the Argentine international is unsettled on Merseyside.

Walter Tamer told Infobae.com, “Barcelona is the easiest deal to set up as Javier wants to go to Spain. He is tired of life in England.

“His wife has not been given a permanent visa. She has to go through an odyssey each time she wants to go.

“Liverpool refuse to sell, this can be overcome with an extraordinary offer.”

Mascherano is currently in Bangkok with the Reds preparing for today’s friendly against Thailand (kick-off 2pm UK).

[Niall]

I'm with Tractor Paddy on this one! Amazing what medicine a pay rise can buy for the misses!!!!

[graham]

He hasn't done himself any favours this summer

[LFC_Mark]

lads you know where them qoutes came from ???

in todays gossip column on 365 http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8671_5447480,00.html

[graham]

lads you know where them qoutes came from ???

in todays gossip column on 365 http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8671_5447480,00.html

Its all over sky and everywhere now. "Masch wants Spain move"

[bryanod]

His agent is a f*cking c*nt!!!

[LFC_Mark]

Its all over sky and everywhere now. "Masch wants Spain move"

as quoted from the rag

[graham]

His agent is a f*cking c*nt!!!

We can blame his agent all we want. At this stage, Masch chooses to employ this agent, all he has to do is tell the press he does not want to leave. He's been reluctant to do that thus far and we're deep into the summer at this stage

[fermoyred80]

This is horse shite, every morning its the same ding-dong. Masch and Alonso should come out and say either way what they want. Without the club neither with Masch in particular would be the player they are today. Loyalty my balls. Sick to death of it at this stage, neither will come out and say anything tho because they will lose their "Loyalty bonus" yet both are eyeing up moves. Its laughable that Loyalty bonus:rolleyes:

[bryanod]

We can blame his agent all we want. At this stage, Masch chooses to employ this agent, all he has to do is tell the press he does not want to leave. He's been reluctant to do that thus far and we're deep into the summer at this stage

Yeah I do realise this, but don't exactly wanna call masch one!

Not impressed with our midfield duo this offseason one bit, we've made thier careers over the last few years, raised their profile even further, and this is how we get repaid.

[graham]

Yeah I do realise this, but don't exactly wanna call masch one!

Not impressed with our midfield duo this offseason one bit, we've made thier careers over the last few years, raised their profile even further, and this is how we get repaid.

+1

[bobby benitez]

Can't be sure if he telling the truth but I can't imagine a UTD players wife not having a proper Visa. FFS sort the wife with a visa and the husband with a rise and put this shit to bed. How hard can thta be.

[ianomccabe]

Quotes come from his agent

[Trevinem]

its just typical of ours summer activities...nothing ever runs smoothly. If Masch and Xabi want to go then let them go. Get the money in and get their replacements in. Were wasting time just like we did with that fool Barry.

If were buying replacements we need them to have time with the squad...the seasons lest than a month away

[travis]

Someone please tell me how the captain of Argentina's wife cannot get a visa in the UK is she a convicted drug dealer or something