Local Elections

[windhover]

Alright lads, only a few weeks to go to the local elections and just wondering what the general consensus is out there amongst our group?

Votes are private and will close before the 5th June, Election date.

[stamullenredmen]

theres a lad literally living round the corner from me thats independent so ive no shame in saying ill give him number 1 i think its more important at council level to look after your immidiate area as regards voting as opposed to following your party leanings

[windhover]

I agree with you re local issues but unfortunatly these are base jumps for dail seats. Imo it will be the most interesting locals to be had in years.

[GaryMc]

Alright lads, only a few weeks to go to the local elections and just wondering what the general consensus is out there amongst our group?

Votes are private and will close before the 5th July, Election date.

Have they be postponed for a month??? :D:D

At least its on Friday this year

[windhover]

lol thanks june!!

[Podgecheco]

Anyone know what the craic is when your voting from outside the country?

[Paddser]

Anyone know what the craic is when your voting from outside the country?

I sent an email to www.registertovote.ie regarding voting if you are out of the country. Two weeks later I've yet to get a reply. Does anyone know what the situation is if you are away on holiday?

[Podgecheco]

I sent an email to www.registertovote.ie regarding voting if you are out of the country. Two weeks later I've yet to get a reply. Does anyone know what the situation is if you are away on holiday?

will ya let me know if ya hear anything ill be in the US so id imagine ya can do it, onine maybe??

[Paddser]

will ya let me know if ya hear anything ill be in the US so id imagine ya can do it, onine maybe??

From what limited research Ive done, it seems you are able to do it in Northern Ireland, but not in the Republic. I asked one of the councillors who came to the door canvassing and he hadn't a clue. :rolleyes:

Especially as ill be away on international duty in Bulgaria! :)

[windhover]

will ya let me know if ya hear anything ill be in the US so id imagine ya can do it, onine maybe??

If you are on holidays tough luck im afraid unless you are registered for a postal vote for reasons of work college etc..

[redeagle]

Obviously I will not be voting...or I may just spoil my vote...

representative democracy boooooooo!

[JOE]

theres a lad literally living round the corner from me thats independent so ive no shame in saying ill give him number 1 i think its more important at council level to look after your immidiate area as regards voting as opposed to following your party leanings


I'm normally a Fianna Fáil man, but they actually have the cheek to put up candidates i've never heard of before, and further don't even live in the area, rather their address given is the co council...

[Fowler-9-]

A good friend of mine is running in the Cabra Glasnevin area for Sinn Fein, I have been doing a lot of work to help him as I've spent the year on work experience with him. So I'll be going Sinn Fein.

Independants in my area are not worth a wank, Perry the anti bin tax rebel, went and paid his bin tax in his wifes name, and you've the less fortunate, less well off people facing the courts now PRICK!

Fianna Fail don't know what their doing up my way, Maurice Ahearn should be in an old folks home, knocked on my door the other day and before he said anything " Sorry Bertie isn't with me today", Trying to get elected on the back of a no good fcukin scrounger, he was ran from my garden.

Seaghan kearney is running for Fianna Fail also, he's young, preaching about fcukin people been broke, the man is a school teacher and DJ now, he's looking for a 3rd job.

Mary FitzPatrick doesn't even wanna be in Fianna Fail, she would go independent if she could afford to. So there a joke.

Never in my life would I vote for those fcukin Neo Nazi's Fine Gael. Greens are yes men who will never get a vote for me.

I don't wanna pay tax for breathing so Labour on't get a vote.

So basically when it comes to Local election it willl be fun, when it comes back around to the generals, well were all gonna be fcuked as there's not a party nor combination of parties in this country at present capable of running it.

However by then Fianna Fail will be after sliming their way back into the good books and get re-elected...People will never learn, If you vote Fianna Fail you've no right to complain about the state of the country, and your 1% now 2% soon to be 5% tax levy.

Give me a break

[denashpot]

Fcuk Fianna Fail!!

[redabbey]

just got a cold call on the phone seeking a vote for Joe O'Reilly. I thought he was in jail.

[zed]

A good friend of mine is running in the Cabra Glasnevin area for Sinn Fein, I have been doing a lot of work to help him as I've spent the year on work experience with him. So I'll be going Sinn Fein.

Independants in my area are not worth a wank, Perry the anti bin tax rebel, went and paid his bin tax in his wifes name, and you've the less fortunate, less well off people facing the courts now PRICK!

Fianna Fail don't know what their doing up my way, Maurice Ahearn should be in an old folks home, knocked on my door the other day and before he said anything " Sorry Bertie isn't with me today", Trying to get elected on the back of a no good fcukin scrounger, he was ran from my garden.

Seaghan kearney is running for Fianna Fail also, he's young, preaching about fcukin people been broke, the man is a school teacher and DJ now, he's looking for a 3rd job.

Mary FitzPatrick doesn't even wanna be in Fianna Fail, she would go independent if she could afford to. So there a joke.

Never in my life would I vote for those fcukin Neo Nazi's Fine Gael. Greens are yes men who will never get a vote for me.

I don't wanna pay tax for breathing so Labour on't get a vote.

Give me a break

I don't want to criticise you on your views because everyones entitled to their own opinion but sounds like you have been a bit warped by the Sinn Féin mentality. To me their usual style of politics is to give out about everyone around them which tends to hide and overshadow there own policies. This is exactly what you have done here rather than state something good about your friend and why he should be elected.

[Anfield Old Boys]

I don't want to criticise you on your views because everyones entitled to their own opinion but sounds like you have been a bit warped by the Sinn Féin mentality. To me their usual style of politics is to give out about everyone around them which tends to hide and overshadow there own policies. This is exactly what you have done here rather than state something good about your friend and why he should be elected.

Would agree 100%, especially the comment about Fine Gael being neo nazis! and this coming from a Sinn Fein supporter...

[SUPERFAN]

Independants in my area are not worth a wank, Perry the anti bin tax rebel, went and paid his bin tax in his wifes name, and you've the less fortunate, less well off people facing the courts now PRICK!


i could be wrong on this but i'm almost certain a few years ago a sitting SF councillor from the cabra area who was "opposed" to the bin charges voted in favour of the council's budget proposals for the year which included revenue from the bin charges...

[windhover]

Politics is a dirty game alright lads! ;)

[Yoko]

The PDs? RIP!

Don't want to pay tax for breathing mate? We already do

[Fowler-9-]

Would agree 100%, especially the comment about Fine Gael being neo nazis! and this coming from a Sinn Fein supporter...

Who was Fine Gael started by? What are their policies, now that the PD's are extinct they are as Right Wing as this country is going to get. Sinn Fein would be the complete opposites to Neo Nazism, being Left Wing would they not?

i could be wrong on this but i'm almost certain a few years ago a sitting SF councillor from the cabra area who was "opposed" to the bin charges voted in favour of the council's budget proposals for the year which included revenue from the bin charges...

Nicky voted in favour of it as it was a battle that had already been lost, however Perry stood against them as a lone soldier and has now left people up shit creek however he secured himself...


Edit: 30% of the vote, looks like i'm not alone.

[Podgecheco]

I think the opinion that fine gael are neo nazi's comes from the times in the 1930's when they were known as the blueshirts considering and mussolini both had followers known as the blackshirts and brownshirts

[zed]

30% of the vote, looks like i'm not alone.

Can anyone who voted in this poll for Sinn Féin state one positive thing that that they could bring to a coalition/rainbow government if they ever got a chance to get in?
(without having to resort to calling other parties neo-nazis and that kind of stuff)

[SUPERFAN]

Nicky voted in favour of it as it was a battle that had already been lost

fair enough,but it never stopped his fellow sinner christy burke voting against the proposals on a consistent basis and pointing out the reason he was doing it was because of the inclusion of waste charges in the budget.
if you believe in something you should stick to it....

[STEVE1978]

The only polls ill be voting in, is IK POLLS;)

[MR KING KENNY]

3 things i dont like to talk about,
1. religion
2.politices
3.sex
cos no matter what we say where all getting fcuked

[windhover]

3 things i dont like to talk about,
1. religion
2.politices
3.sex
cos no matter what we say where all getting fcuked

lol :D

[Daz]

3 things i dont like to talk about,
1. religion
2.politices
3.sex
cos no matter what we say where all getting fcuked

You must be doing it wrong:p

[Anfield Old Boys]

I think the opinion that fine gael are neo nazi's comes from the times in the 1930's when they were known as the blueshirts considering and mussolini both had followers known as the blackshirts and brownshirts

Not correct. Neo nazism refers to post WWII political movements.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo_Nazi

[Juan]

Can anyone who voted in this poll for Sinn Féin state one positive thing that that they could bring to a coalition/rainbow government if they ever got a chance to get in?
(without having to resort to calling other parties neo-nazis and that kind of stuff)

Cumpulsory purchase orders on speculators who are sitting on vast amounts of land,or derelict propertys.Access to quality health care and social services,for all. the immediate capping/or abolishment of bonuses, and reducing overpaid salaries to the fat cats,who have made us all suffer.
i think they have some good policies and some not so good ones. but ill be voting left,at this election.

[Anfield Old Boys]

Who was Fine Gael started by? What are their policies, now that the PD's are extinct they are as Right Wing as this country is going to get. Sinn Fein would be the complete opposites to Neo Nazism, being Left Wing would they not?

I know this is a football site (and a bloody good one) but sometimes you have to call it as it is.

I always find its so ironic when Sinn Fein and their supporters call other parties neo nazis and also say, as you do, that Sinn Fein are the complete opposite to Nazis and Neo Nazism?

I would have thought that Sinn Fein is the closest of all Irish political parties to the Nazi party or Neo Nazism. If you recall, Hitler had a private army, the SA or Sturmabteilung which was the paramilitary organisation of the Nazi party. Now lets see, which Irish political party had a paramilitary organisation, does Fianna Fail?, Fine Gael?, Labour?, the Greens? no, its our good friends in Sinn Fein...and as we have unfortunately seen in the cold blooded murders of Robert McCartney, Paul Quinn and Joseph Rafferty, that paramilitary organisation can be an active one too..

[Daz]

Lads just a note on this discussion - if this turns into personal insults or any of the other tripe that we frequently see thes type of threads descend into, the thread will be removed. Keep it sensible is all we ask!!!!!

[danman]

I haven't decided on the personalities I'm voting for yet, but it certainly won't be my local SF candidate.

He works full time as a county councillor, getting paid by the party. He spends his day on the local radio station and getting his face in the local papers.
Some of the voters I speak to say he's the only one doing anything, which is rich considering all the rest of the councillors have to work to make ends meet.

He called to my house during the run up to the General elections and I asked him if he would be fit to do a full time job, considering he can only manage to do a part time job on a full time basis.

Our options up here in Donegal are very limited, but I'll be deciding on individuals rather than Parties.

[BobBolder]

I know this is a football site (and a bloody good one) but sometimes you have to call it as it is.

I always find its so ironic when Sinn Fein and their supporters call other parties neo nazis and also say, as you do, that Sinn Fein are the complete opposite to Nazis and Neo Nazism?

I would have thought that Sinn Fein is the closest of all Irish political parties to the Nazi party or Neo Nazism. If you recall, Hitler had a private army, the SA or Sturmabteilung which was the paramilitary organisation of the Nazi party. Now lets see, which Irish political party had a paramilitary organisation, does Fianna Fail?, Fine Gael?, Labour?, the Greens? no, its our good friends in Sinn Fein...and as we have unfortunately seen in the cold blooded murders of Robert McCartney, Paul Quinn and Joseph Rafferty, that paramilitary organisation can be an active one too..

That is a good post. I have a horrible feeling that people are going to go against the mainstream parties in these elections, just like the UK and vote for the likes of SF. The BNP are going to make significant gains in the UK.

Be careful what you vote for.

[Juan]

That is a good post. I have a horrible feeling that people are going to go against the mainstream parties in these elections, just like the UK and vote for the likes of SF. The BNP are going to make significant gains in the UK.

Be careful what you vote for.

So your opinion bob,would be to carry on as we are,i take it?

[BobBolder]

So your opinion bob,would be to carry on as we are,i take it?

What I am saying is that the mainstream parties are a far better bet to bring us out of this recession, granted it depends on the rest of the world doing so as well, as opposed to a party with very questionable income sources, principles and paramilitary links. People seem to forget that this is a world wide recession.

There is an awful lot of sexy talk from the opposition. Talk is cheap and talkers rarely get the job done. We need a nasty b*st*rd or b*tch, who is going to make the right decisions for the country, not the popular ones.

These elections wont lead to a change of government anyway.

[JOE]

I don't think there is a great selection of candidates in these up coming elections, especially in the local elections...i was looking at the candidates for the Euro elections in the times today and there were only 6/7 which wasn't great, and that's including the Libertas candidate who's spending close to 350k on her campaign which is ridiculus...i can see some of the money went towards the add at the top of this page...and bottom...

[Podgecheco]

Not correct. Neo nazism refers to post WWII political movements.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo_Nazi

yeah i know that its fairly obvious im just saying thats where the link comes from if ya get me

[Juan]

What I am saying is that the mainstream parties are a far better bet to bring us out of this recession, granted it depends on the rest of the world doing so as well, as opposed to a party with very questionable income sources, principles and paramilitary links. People seem to forget that this is a world wide recession.

There is an awful lot of sexy talk from the opposition. Talk is cheap and talkers rarely get the job done. We need a nasty b*st*rd or b*tch, who is going to make the right decisions for the country, not the popular ones.

These elections wont lead to a change of government anyway.

Im not stuck on sinn fein myself bob.im openminded.
Fianna fail has made a terrible mess of the economy, the health service ect ect, ect,.the collective punishment of the population of Ireland,for its mistakes, is unforgiveable in my opinion.Its support of the cosy cartel for years is now rearing its ugly head. and we probably dont know the half of it yet. as more lies and deciet are revealed everyday.but what harm,let the nurses,teachers,guards,factory workers, the low earners,ect, pay for the lot of their mistakes,and the banks billions in debt. also the bonuses paid to these people, were the ultimate in P***taking.
as for right decisions for the country? heres one they should do,they(TD's) should put themselves on performance related pay... and take less holidays.
but thats asking the impossible,i suppose.
youre right though, talk is cheap,and the government is well skilled in that department bob.

[zed]

Fianna fail has made a terrible mess of the economy, the health service ect ect, ect,.the collective punishment of the population of Ireland,for its mistakes, is unforgiveable in my opinion.Its support of the cosy cartel for years is now rearing its ugly head. and we probably dont know the half of it yet. as more lies and deciet are revealed everyday.but what harm,let the nurses,teachers,guards,factory workers, the low earners,ect, pay for the lot of their mistakes,and the banks billions in debt. also the bonuses paid to these people, were the ultimate in P***taking.
as for right decisions for the country? heres one they should do,they(TD's) should put themselves on performance related pay... and take less holidays.
but thats asking the impossible,i suppose.
youre right though, talk is cheap,and the government is well skilled in that department bob.

Agree totally with ya on all the above. On the holidays - they'll be off from the beginning of July to the end of September. They only sit in the Dáil for 2 and a half days a week. Its a bit of a joke, in fairness.

[Juan]

Agree totally with ya on all the above. On the holidays - they'll be off from the beginning of July to the end of September. They only sit in the Dáil for 2 and a half days a week. Its a bit of a joke, in fairness.

Christ.. i thought they were off for two months in the summer,not three:mad:. youre right its a joke.

[Anfield Old Boys]

yeah i know that its fairly obvious im just saying thats where the link comes from if ya get me

Get ya.....

[MarioDooley]

I'll be voting Labour in the locals, mainly down to their candidate being a local man who has worked in the community for years.

I hope Fianna Fail get hammered in this election, they deserve it for the mess they've made of the country......

[Raven136]

I see the working class are well represented on IK.12 sf and 12 labour.

More importantly sinn fein has one of the worlds hottest 50 politicians in Teresa Ferris(Number 7).If thats not worth voting for i dont know what is.

On a more serious note,im a member of a political party and always vote left but ill never vote Green again and i don think ill be the only one

[Fowler-9-]

fair enough,but it never stopped his fellow sinner christy burke voting against the proposals on a consistent basis and pointing out the reason he was doing it was because of the inclusion of waste charges in the budget.
if you believe in something you should stick to it....

Nicky wasn't silly, Christy is a very stubborn man, sitting in council for over 20years he could afford to take a stance against it which Nicky couldn't. Nicky reluctantly voted in favour of the projected budget as the City Council were cute about their ongoings, they mixed good with bad. They had a lot of proposals in there prosepectous that local councillors had been fighting hard for, in Nicky's case the re-development of the Bogies and also housing in the cabra area for the people who were being moved out of O Devaney gardens. I am not spouting rubbish, I play for Finnbarrs Gaa club and I work their, Nicky was my manager for donkeys up until last year and myself and my family done an awful lot of work on his behalf and continue to do so for Seamas McGrattan.

To hold that particular event against Nicky is ludacris, he receive 4,500 and odd votes in the Generals, and ended up losing his seat to Cyprian Brady (938 first preferences) on some age old technicallity, Sinn Fein average approxamitely 2,500 votes in this area, the other 2,000 votes showed the work he done for the constituency. Aswell as keeping the drug scene at a low rate in Cabra West.

I know this is a football site (and a bloody good one) but sometimes you have to call it as it is.

I always find its so ironic when Sinn Fein and their supporters call other parties neo nazis and also say, as you do, that Sinn Fein are the complete opposite to Nazis and Neo Nazism?

I would have thought that Sinn Fein is the closest of all Irish political parties to the Nazi party or Neo Nazism. If you recall, Hitler had a private army, the SA or Sturmabteilung which was the paramilitary organisation of the Nazi party. Now lets see, which Irish political party had a paramilitary organisation, does Fianna Fail?, Fine Gael?, Labour?, the Greens? no, its our good friends in Sinn Fein...and as we have unfortunately seen in the cold blooded murders of Robert McCartney, Paul Quinn and Joseph Rafferty, that paramilitary organisation can be an active one too..

Shall I break this down for you? Provisional IRA and Sinn fein are connected. Provisional IRA have been in ceasefire since Sinn Fein collaborated the Northern Ireland Peace Process on Good Friday 1998. 11 years now. To blame sinn fein on any murder deemed Republican is outrages, naeive and ill informed, there are many splinter groups (RIRA,CIRA,INLA,Apparantly the IRB are back :rolleyes:) that cannot be linked to Sinn Fein who sinn Fein have time and time again come out and condemned. If a fella gets into a fight wearing a celtic jersey it's Sinn fein's fault, christ it's childish.

Because Hitler had a paramilitary army at his disposal it likens Sinn Fein to the Nazi's WTF? Explain this to me one more time.

Gary Neville has a Bently, Steven gerrard has a Bently. that must mean Steven Gerrard is a Manc?

I'm talking in terms of their Political stance and IMO Sinn Fein are as opposite this country has to offer to the Nazi Party. Left is afterall the opposite to right ;)

I'm sure we can all get along just fine if we all just vote Mary Lou in the Europeans, Seamas McGrattan in the locals and Christy Bourke in th generals.:D

[Fowler-9-]

I see the working class are well represented on IK.12 sf and 12 labour.

More importantly sinn fein has one of the worlds hottest 50 politicians in Teresa Ferris(Number 7).If thats not worth voting for i dont know what is.

On a more serious note,im a member of a political party and always vote left but ill never vote Green again and i don think ill be the only one

This is my first chance to vote (19 today) I think the greens would have gotten my transfers in the past however now there is no chance, IMO labour party is drifting more and more from left wing towards the centre, A bit like Vladimar Smicer

[Gerry]

Any time there has been a thread about polotics it has turned into people personally abusing others

Mods are happy to leave this thread here, but if there is anyone going down the road of personal insults then the people involved will get bans i hope that is clear enough !

[danman]

To hold that particular event against Nicky is ludacris, he receive 4,500 and odd votes in the Generals, and ended up losing his seat to Cyprian Brady (938 first preferences) on some age old technicallity.


Would that be called "Proportional Representation"?

[D7Hooper]

re;Fowler 9
Independants in my area are not worth a wank, Perry the anti bin tax rebel, went and paid his bin tax in his wifes name, and you've the less fortunate, less well off people facing the courts now PRICK!

I happen to know for certain that is a lie. Cieran refused to pay, so the sale of his house never went through, he still owns i and rents it out. I don't canvas for him or anything but I happen to know he is a tireless worker for the area. Unlike your former shinner counciller who didn't bother his arse turning up when the vote was being taken on the bin charges, he was in the pub with all the other back hander taking scumbags.

[SUPERFAN]

Nicky wasn't silly, Christy is a very stubborn man, sitting in council for over 20years he could afford to take a stance against it which Nicky couldn't. Nicky reluctantly voted in favour of the projected budget as the City Council were cute about their ongoings, they mixed good with bad. They had a lot of proposals in there prosepectous that local councillors had been fighting hard for, in Nicky's case the re-development of the Bogies and also housing in the cabra area for the people who were being moved out of O Devaney gardens. I am not spouting rubbish, I play for Finnbarrs Gaa club and I work their, Nicky was my manager for donkeys up until last year and myself and my family done an awful lot of work on his behalf and continue to do so for Seamas McGrattan.

To hold that particular event against Nicky is ludacris, he receive 4,500 and odd votes in the Generals, and ended up losing his seat to Cyprian Brady (938 first preferences) on some age old technicallity, Sinn Fein average approxamitely 2,500 votes in this area, the other 2,000 votes showed the work he done for the constituency. Aswell as keeping the drug scene at a low rate in Cabra West.

i never said i was holding anything against anyone,i just thought it was a bit rich that you should call someone who was anti-bin tax a pr1ck for going back on his word when keohe did the exact same.
and if what d7hooper says is true it looks like someone was telling you porkies.
i worked on the bins in cabra for years so know all about the anti-bin tax movement.i seen perry out on the streets with the people on numerous occaisions,i can honestly say i never seen keohe.i also know a lot of people from cabra who were very disappointed with him when he voted in favour of the bin charges,more than likely people who voted for him in the GE.
i lived in o devaney gardens all my life and the only time i ever seen keohe in them was for a photoshoot.it's only in the last year or so that people from o devaney got anywhere near cabra,we got our house about 18 months ago and at that time there wasn't a hope of getting cabra...

[Gerry]

Any time there has been a thread about polotics it has turned into people personally abusing others

Mods are happy to leave this thread here, but if there is anyone going down the road of personal insults or abusing other members then the people involved will get bans i hope that is clear enough !

Keep this in mind !

[bobby benitez]

I'm sure we can all get along just fine if we all just vote Mary Lou in the Europeans, Seamas McGrattan in the locals and Christy Bourke in th generals.:D

I usually avoid arguments/discussions with Sinner's for obvious reasons, but as you seem well informed I'd like to ask you what Mary Lou has accomplished since she was elected to Europe that warrants a another stint?

[danman]

I usually avoid arguments/discussions with Sinner's for obvious reasons, but as you seem well informed I'd like to ask you what Mary Lou has accomplished since she was elected to Europe that warrants a another stint?

I'm not going to contribute to this thread again because you lads don't know me, and it might seem like I'm only here for the wind up.
But I thought this was an interesting statistic....

These are the attendance records of the MEPs over the past 5 years.

Liam Aylward (91 per cent)
Colm Burke (86 per cent)
Brian Crowley (94 per cent)
Proinsias De Rossa (85 per cent)
Avril Doyle (89 per cent)
Marian Harkin (88 per cent)
Jim Higgins (87 per cent)
Mary Lou McDonald (57 per cent)
Maireád McGuinness (84 per cent)
Gay Mitchell (90 per cent)
Seán Ó Neachtain (93 per cent)
Eoin Ryan (83 per cent)
Kathy Sinnott (92 per cent).

SF have refuted this figure stating that it should be 75%
If you took her maternity leave as being 100% attendance, it would bring her up to 75%.
But in reality, if you work out the maths for the percentage of time she was there for the other 4 and half years it realistically brings the total up to 64%.

(57% of 5 years is 2.85 years
2.85 years is 63.3% of 4 and half years.)

It's still a lot below average. Every job demands quality over quantity to some extent, but to do any job, you have to attend work.

[Fowler-9-]

I usually avoid arguments/discussions with Sinner's for obvious reasons, but as you seem well informed I'd like to ask you what Mary Lou has accomplished since she was elected to Europe that warrants a another stint?

Mary Lou has pushed through an awful lot of proposals for educations to Europe, thanks to her and solely her my little brother will have a school built, Gaelscoil Bharra in Cabra that is.

She also has been working a lot to solve Health crisis we are currently in. She is doing great work.

i never said i was holding anything against anyone,i just thought it was a bit rich that you should call someone who was anti-bin tax a pr1ck for going back on his word when keohe did the exact same.
and if what d7hooper says is true it looks like someone was telling you porkies.
i worked on the bins in cabra for years so know all about the anti-bin tax movement.i seen perry out on the streets with the people on numerous occaisions,i can honestly say i never seen keohe.i also know a lot of people from cabra who were very disappointed with him when he voted in favour of the bin charges,more than likely people who voted for him in the GE.
i lived in o devaney gardens all my life and the only time i ever seen keohe in them was for a photoshoot.it's only in the last year or so that people from o devaney got anywhere near cabra,we got our house about 18 months ago and at that time there wasn't a hope of getting cabra...

Seamas McGrattan has helped atleast 10 people get housed in Cabra from o Devanney Gardens even though O Devanney isn't in his constituency since I started working with him last September.

There were an awful lot of unhappy people in Sinn Fein when the vote was cast but the mans hand was turned, he obviously hadn't got the resources of perry to take such a stance on the matter and as I previously stated there was more than bin tax in the budget proposal. A close friend of my family has done the bins for years and he'll tell ya Nicky was out when the bins were been collected, Did you do Jarlaith Road? Also obviously ya never seen Nicky down in O Devanney as O Devanney doen's come under his or Seamas McGrattan constituency. Until the generals that is....

Would that be called "Proportional Representation"?

No mate there were transfers pulled from a box were it was well known that they would have the amount to see of Nicky. TV3 had an interview that they were told Nicky had it, until this box that wans't meant to be counted. there were appeals made, it was a joke. Democracy at it's worst a man with900 votes getting in ahead of a man with 4 and a half thousand.
re;Fowler 9


I happen to know for certain that is a lie. Cieran refused to pay, so the sale of his house never went through, he still owns i and rents it out. I don't canvas for him or anything but I happen to know he is a tireless worker for the area. Unlike your former shinner counciller who didn't bother his arse turning up when the vote was being taken on the bin charges, he was in the pub with all the other back hander taking scumbags.

I'll stand corrected on that matter as you seem more in the know than me. I do however have other personal disputes with perry and his brother, for a number of reasons, this was behind my previous attack on him.

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Passed a sign for Toireasa Ferris today and she is definitely getting my vote;)


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Seamas McGrattan has helped atleast 10 people get housed in Cabra from o Devanney Gardens even though O Devanney isn't in his constituency since I started working with him last September.
exactly mate,that's what i said.in the last year or so there's been a flood of people moving from o devaney to cabra.before that no one was.

There were an awful lot of unhappy people in Sinn Fein when the vote was cast but the mans hand was turned, he obviously hadn't got the resources of perry to take such a stance on the matter and as I previously stated there was more than bin tax in the budget proposal. A close friend of my family has done the bins for years and he'll tell ya Nicky was out when the bins were been collected, Did you do Jarlaith Road? Also obviously ya never seen Nicky down in O Devanney as O Devanney doen's come under his or Seamas McGrattan constituency. Until the generals that is....

that's fair enough,i just said i never saw him out with the bin protesters.
i said in my last post that i did see him in o devaney,once,for a photoshoot.it looked to me like he was jumping on the bandwagon..
anyway,i've nothing against keohe,from what i hear he's done a lot of great work for the people of cabra and i certainly don't support perry.i just thought i'd give my tuppence worth.


No mate there were transfers pulled from a box were it was well known that they would have the amount to see of Nicky. TV3 had an interview that they were told Nicky had it, until this box that wans't meant to be counted. there were appeals made, it was a joke. Democracy at it's worst a man with900 votes getting in ahead of a man with 4 and a half thousand.
from what i remember,didn't brady get all the remaining 1st preference votes from his FF running mate who got way above the quota?
thought it was a disgrace meself at the time...
happy birthday by the way..;)

[Fowler-9-]

from what i remember,didn't brady get all the remaining 1st preference votes from his FF running mate who got way above the quota?
thought it was a disgrace meself at the time...
happy birthday by the way..;)

His running mate was Bertie Ahearne.....Enough said, not only was nicky shafted by ahearne but so was Mary Fitzpatrick, FF are as slimey as they come.

Thanks bud.;)

[zed]

Anyone see Vincent Browne tonight on TV3?

The main candidates from the Dublin South By-elections were on. I thought the Sinn Fein candidate spoke fairly well when he got his chance.

At the end of the programme Vincent Browne said that Sinn Fein were the only party who could have sorted this whole mess with the banks out ages ago.
He said the government should have got them in to rob the banks in the South for them instead of robbing the bank in the north a while back.
Thought it was funny enough in fairness.

[Rover 609]

Anyone see Vincent Browne tonight on TV3?

The main candidates from the Dublin South By-elections were on. I thought the Sinn Fein candidate spoke fairly well when he got his chance.

At the end of the programme Vincent Browne said that Sinn Fein were the only party who could have sorted this whole mess with the banks out ages ago.
He said the government should have got them in to rob the banks in the South for them instead of robbing the bank in the north a while back.
Thought it was funny enough in fairness.

Vincent Browne a horrible cun't imo,was watching meself and the contempt he had for young lad (sinn fein candidate) a fuc'kin disgrace.You could clearly hear him sneer under his breath when the chap was talking, sneering him when the fella said that SF supported initially the bailing out of the banks for the good of the country.

[windhover]

Vincent Browne a horrible cun't imo,was watching meself and the contempt he had for young lad (sinn fein candidate) a fuc'kin disgrace.You could clearly hear him sneer under his breath when the chap was talking, sneering him when the fella said that SF supported initially the bailing out of the banks for the good of the country.

In all fairness he sneers at everyone. Did think the comment was funny though!

[BobBolder]

In all fairness he sneers at everyone. Did think the comment was funny though!

Thought it was brilliant myself. The SF lad spoke well. George Lee was very poor for a former TV professional. He will probably get in due to the celeb factor.

[JOE]

Thought it was brilliant myself. The SF lad spoke well. George Lee was very poor for a former TV professional. He will probably get in due to the celeb factor.


Saw it myself...i thought it was a good open debate, though i'm not a fan of the lobour fellow, Alex white...he seemed to be blowing alot of hot air....

[Anfield Old Boys]

Shall I break this down for you? Provisional IRA and Sinn fein are connected. Provisional IRA have been in ceasefire since Sinn Fein collaborated the Northern Ireland Peace Process on Good Friday 1998. 11 years now. To blame sinn fein on any murder deemed Republican is outrages, naeive and ill informed, there are many splinter groups (RIRA,CIRA,INLA,Apparantly the IRB are back :rolleyes:) that cannot be linked to Sinn Fein who sinn Fein have time and time again come out and condemned.
Because Hitler had a paramilitary army at his disposal it likens Sinn Fein to the Nazi's WTF? Explain this to me one more time

I wish the IRA were on ceasefire for the last 11 years! In all three of the murders I mentioned the IRA have been involved, and indeed in the McCartney murder thats is exactly what they shouted out in the pub when they killed him, "this is IRA business". Indeed didn't Gerry Adams (Chief of Staff of the IRA) offer to have the killers killed by the IRA.

If you don't believe me read the IMC report on the Paul Quinn murder, it might open your eyes..It was carried out by a local IRA unit albeit without IRA HQ approval, I suppose they only get that apporval for bank jobs:rolleyes:.. Even Mary Lou is now selling IRA souvenirs in the Sinn Fein shop,link beloe. Here we have Sinn Fein making money selling souvenirs about an organisation that shoots Gardai...and these people want to represent us in Government!!..

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/ira-souvenirs-sell-well-in-mcdonald-hq-1757854.html

[windhover]

Shall I break this down for you? Provisional IRA and Sinn fein are connected. Provisional IRA have been in ceasefire since Sinn Fein collaborated the Northern Ireland Peace Process on Good Friday 1998. 11 years now. To blame sinn fein on any murder deemed Republican is outrages, naeive and ill informed,

Thats like football began with the premiership argument Im afraid.
Until SF actually take responsibility and apologise for the murder they were involved with over the years they will not be taken seriously.

Also they should give up the names of their buddies in so called splinter groups, instead of just paying lipservice to it.

From the sf website....
http://www.sinnfeinbookshop.com/catalog/popup_image.php?pID=303&osCsid=5e6f2db6ddee8ccfcd8e4e12bb5d3624

[Anfield Old Boys]

Thats like football began with the premiership argument Im afraid. Until SF actually take responsibility and apologise for the murder they were involved with over the years they will not be taken seriously.

Good points Windhover, you can add to that that Sinn Fein should explain where is all the money making apparatus gone to that the IRA had to support itself and its war, e.g, drugs, smuggling, protection rackets, prostitution etc.?