Liverpool v Sunderland

[JohnnyChimpo]

Right, time for people to put the mess of Boro to the back of their minds and lets just focus on whats in front of us. Nothing can be done about whats gone, so lets all be united (for lack of a better phrase!:p) and use the power of positive thinking to go into this match with the right frame of mind.

Having said that, if Nando is still missing, and possibly Gerrard too, I can see this one being another case of a team coming to park the bus in front of The Kop and challenge us to break them down. Sunderland held Arsenal to a 0-0 a couple of weeks ago, and they got to the 89th minute at Old Trafford.

I think the line up should be something like this; (assuming that Nando and Stevie will be missing)

---------------------------Pepe-----------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------
----Arbeloa--------Carragher-----Skrtel-----Aurélio-----------
-------------------------Mascherano-------------------------
---Benayoun---------------Alonso---------------Reira--------
----------------------------------Babel----------------------
------------------------Kuyt---------------------------------

I know people aren't to high on Babel right now, but I'm still prepared to give me more time. At least, at the very least, until the end of the season.

I would just like to see something along the lines of this line up, instead of the defensive approach we take at home. A bit more attack minded, maybe adopt a gung-ho "nothing to lose" type attitude, and start creating chances right from the get go. A nice fast pace to the game is required. When we play at home, we seem to play a slow passing game, and then go 1-0 down before picking up the tempo. When we pick up the tempo, other teams seem like they just cant deal with us. So I say, start this way, get a go, and then slow the game down. Not the other way around.

Come on lads. Its not over til its over. I've watched enough Rocky films to know that much!

[Alex Raisbeck]

Anyone see any update on Gerrards injury/fitness?

[RedMurph08]

Anyone see any update on Gerrards injury/fitness?

Was it not just cramps?

[Alex Raisbeck]

Not sure, I switched off straight after the final whistle and havent took much notice of any football since so was just wondering.
If that was the case then good.

[JohnnyChimpo]

I'm pretty sure it wasn't just cramp. He came out the worse off in a 50/50 challenge. It may well have been just an impact injury that was fine a hour or two later, or this morning when he woke up. But it certainly didn't look like cramp to me. It would be pretty coincidental that he pulled up after the challenge, moved pretty gingerly for a minute or two, and then came off.

I'm hope I'm wrong, but I certainly didn't think it was cramp.

[irishman123]

babbel should never be allowed to play for liverpool again after saturday he,s just not interested
i,ll tell you what kenwayne jones up front for the pool is an interesting prospect what do you think

[denashpot]

babbel should never be allowed to play for liverpool again after saturday he,s just not interested
i,ll tell you what kenwayne jones up front for the pool is an interesting prospect what do you think

wrong thread ....

http://www.irishkop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7278&page=8&highlight=babel

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

babbel should never be allowed to play for liverpool again after saturday he,s just not interested
i,ll tell you what kenwayne jones up front for the pool is an interesting prospect what do you think

Don't think Stuttgart would let him anyway:confused:

[bobby benitez]

Don't think Stuttgart would let him anyway:confused:

If there is 1 person on this site that is in no position to slag spelling - then it is teenagedrunkenskrtel

[red1965]

If there is 1 person on this site that is in no position to slag spelling - then it is teenagedrunkenskrtel

24 hours is a long time:D:D

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

If there is 1 person on this site that is in no position to slag spelling - then it is teenagedrunkenskrtel

Touche:)-BUT even in that state I can still spell the names of our players past and present-not a lot to ask is it?SKRTEL,BABEL,HYYPIA,MASCHERANO-not rocket science like:)

[bobby benitez]

Touche:)-BUT even in that state I can still spell the names of our players past and present-not a lot to ask is it?SKRTEL,BABEL,HYYPIA,MASCHERANO-not rocket science like:)

just not our manager:D

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

just not our manager:D

lol-was hoping you wouldnt notice:p:D

[irishman123]

i was reffering to johnnycrimpo,s team to play sunderland i think kenwayne jone,s would do a great job for the pool if benetiz thought heskey was the answer why not jones still a young man unlike heskey

[irishman123]

i was refering to johnnycrimpo,s team selection to play sunderland, i think kenwayne jones could do a great job for us ,if benetiz thought heskey was the answer, then jones is our man still only a young man to.

[robbie st leger]

i was refering to johnnycrimpo,s team selection to play sunderland, i think kenwayne jones could do a great job for us ,if benetiz thought heskey was the answer, then jones is our man still only a young man to.

and they wud want about 12 mil for him no thanks

[JohnnyChimpo]

Its JohnnyChimpo. Its Kenwyne Jones, its Ryan Babel, and its Rafa Benitez. And I really hope your joking about wanting Kenwyne Jones to be a target for us for the summer. Why not bring back Cisse too? He constantly outshines Jones, maybe we should get him too?

We're Liverpool, we need to be aiming a little higher than the likes of Peter Crouch, Craig Bellamy and Kenwyne frickin' Jones.

[CrazyHorse]

The formation v Pompey looked good in parts when we were missing Gerrard and Torres.

I'd go with something along the lines of...

Reina

Skrtel...Carra...Agger

Arbeloa...Aurelio...Alonso...Mascherano...Dossenna

Babel...Kuyt

If both our 2 superstars are out, then I think we'd get the best from whats left from this formation.
In the Fulham game, we lined up really well, and everyone knew their role.
Forget about the result for a minute and try to cast your memories back to the actual game and how we played. We dominated them for the first half and were unlucky not to get our noses in front, but we really got the best out of Dossenna, possibly his best game in a Red shirt, and Aurleio never lost his touch in midfield from his Valencia days.
Alonso in midfiled would have plenty of runners to choose from in attack, and Masch would supply protection in front of the 3 CB's.
Defensively, the 3-5-2 quickly turns into a 5-3-2, offering defensive solidity when on the back foot.
Playing 2 up top is the bare minimum we should be playing when at home, anything less is just unambitious..

I would like to see Raga go with this set up in the event that SG and Nando are unavailable.

[robbie st leger]

if he got rid of crouch i doubt very much that he'd want another giraffe up front

[bobby benitez]

arbeloa is out
gerrard is in.

[red1965]

arbeloa is out
gerrard is in.

then darby should start he has to be an improvement on saturdays right backs

[JohnnyChimpo]

Playing 2 up top is the bare minimum we should be playing when at home, anything less is just unambitious..
I dont think my formation would be classed as unambitious. I effectively did have 2 up top, Babel was just off Kuyt, but thats cause I think it he would be more effective playing just off the striker, rather than an on the shoulder of the last defender type forward. He has great explosive pace, but he isn't someone who looks like he can lead the line, which is why I would have him just off the striker.

arbeloa is out
gerrard is in.
Not that I'm calling you a liar, but whats your source for that?

[Gray72]

I could really do without another bloody match, our season has lead me to despise the weekends! I am out of what ifs and what fors and feel we need to face up to what the season will deliver. We just don't have the team to put in performances week in and week out! We get it right once every 4 weeks and this might be it? I fear not! Sunderland really will fancy their chances and rightly so.

We lack a real edge going forward, any drive in midfield and creativity coupled with that killer touch. Rafa's constant tinkering with the team and lack of a plan B have left us predictable and easy to stem. We will have the usual suspects starting in Carra, Skertel, Aurelio, Mascherano, Alonso and Kuyt, no match winners there. Chose any of El Zahr, Ngog, Benayoun, Riera, Babel, Arbeloa, Hyypia and we have a team seriously lacking.

I just need to look at the Utd front five compared with ours and we are woefully short. Too often Riera, Babel, Kuyt and Benayoun go missing and it's always let to Torres and Gerrard to dig us out. We have used up all those wins early season and await for another to step forward. We simply don't score enough goals and the Riera, Kuyt, Benayoun, Babel goal return is woeful. That's about £40m of cash wasted in attacking options!

What we have in reserve is simply not good enough and we ship out Pennant and Voronin. We really could do with them at the moment. Sunderland are another solid unit who have a goal threat in Jones and Cisse. They could knick this one 1-0. I really can't see a decent performance coming from us with Gerrard and Torres likely to be missing. Rafa wasted £20m in the summer and if only it had been spent wisely we could be so much better off! I despair!

[irishman123]

Its JohnnyChimpo. Its Kenwyne Jones, its Ryan Babel, and its Rafa Benitez. And I really hope your joking about wanting Kenwyne Jones to be a target for us for the summer. Why not bring back Cisse too? He constantly outshines Jones, maybe we should get him too?

We're Liverpool, we need to be aiming a little higher than the likes of Peter Crouch, Craig Bellamy and Kenwyne frickin' Jones.

you,r dead right we shouild be aiming higher than these boys but we,re not heskey was never a 20 goal a season man but he does a certain job for the team i,m just saying jones does the same job but is a younger man for about that money who would you buy

[James]

Cant bloody wait for this match tomorrow. We're going to destroy them nil all.

[JohnnyChimpo]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_4994172,00.html
Torres is definitely ruled out for tomorrow night. Stevie G was only suffering from cramp at the Boro game, but is still not a definite starter. And Arbeloa is going to be missing with his hamstring injury.

[D-Red]

Let's hope for a good strong response for this one.

Stupid work messed me about so won't be at it afterall, Hope the atmosphere is cranked up for it though, times like this you need the 12th man on song!

Have a gut feeling we'll take it 2-1, would be nice to keep a clean sheet though.

[IrishRed1892]

Let's hope for a good strong response for this one.

Stupid work messed me about so won't be at it afterall, Hope the atmosphere is cranked up for it though, times like this you need the 12th man on song!

Have a gut feeling we'll take it 2-1, would be nice to keep a clean sheet though.

sadly, I have a feeling the atmosphere will be shite and the score will be. . .wait for it. . . 0-0!

[CrazyHorse]

Hopefully.. hopefully we can get 3 points tomorrow, and Im backing the manager and the team to deliver.

We're playing Sunderland ffs.. a team we should be beating!!

But LFC and "teams we should be beating" dont seem to go hand in hand for the last couple of months.

We all could do with a pick me up after the weekend, and a few goals to boot!!

Here's to hoping!!

3-0 to the Reds!!
:)

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

0-0 written all over it:(

Whether stevie plays or not he wont be sharp after all the niggling injuries and between that and nandos absence we are very toothless.Sunderland will come and park the bus as they did to great effect for 91 minutes at old trafford and at the emirates also if memory serves correct.

Very optimistic about stuffing madrid-dreading sunderland.....thats liverpool at the moment for ya:(

[Fowler-9-]

AH SURE IT WILL BE NIL ALL I'M GOING. fECKIN LEAVIN IN TWO HOURS CAN'T SLEEP. sorry didn't mean to use caps, too tired to go back over and re write though

[leixlip kopite]

Im going to be all optomistic and go for a 4-0 win tonight. Think Sunderland will get the backlash from Saturday!

[SignoraFrasi]

i dont know about this one.i feel the atmpsphere will be dead now that we are out of the title race.

[padski08]

Im going to be all optomistic and go for a 4-0 win tonight. Think Sunderland will get the backlash from Saturday!

Saw this in window of William Hill for 14/1

Terrible odds considering they will have 11 men behind the ball and were missing our key stricker

Ill take 1-0 but realistically for morale with big games coming up, we need to beat these convincingly (cant spell that word but get the message) :eek:

[Pimboli]

This has 0-0 all over it, Sunderland will come with 11 behind the ball, we will play in front of them for most of the night and dink in the odd aimless ball into the box for Kuyt to the head towards the corner flag.

I just cant see a performance coming without Torres. Added to that that probably Dossena will probably start with Lucus the deadly duo of muck. In all honesty Im so disillusioned with how easy Boro beat us and clueless we looked that it wouldnt suprise me in the slightest if we got caught out with a set piece.

Its either an early goal or nothing.

[Liverpool-law]

In all honesty Im so disillusioned with how easy Boro beat us and clueless we looked that it wouldnt suprise me in the slightest if we got caught out with a set piece.


It's because of the Boro game that I expect a big response from the team. Time for the players to stand up and be counted in front of a (hopefully vocal) home crowd.

[carpe diem]

It's because of the Boro game that I expect a big response from the team. Time for the players to stand up and be counted in front of a (hopefully vocal) home crowd.


im with you,i think we'll win easily enough tonight,i expect a major response to last saturday,i watched sunderland against arsenal and they were more offensive than the papers gave them credit for,i dont think they'll throw 11 behind the ball for the whole game,3-1/3-0.

[zamaguire]

Finding it hard to get excited about this one.

[edcarroll02]

im with you,i think we'll win easily enough tonight,i expect a major response to last saturday,i watched sunderland against arsenal and they were more offensive than the papers gave them credit for,i dont think they'll throw 11 behind the ball for the whole game,3-1/3-0.

I'm nearly more worried that they will be offensive against us tonight, the mighty boro looked like the could have steam rolled us in the end and King really should have made it three nil. But getting Kuyt away from the lone striker role where he is completely ineffective and into right wing position where he can at least track back should counter a lot of this problem.

[kelly jones]

match preview

http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/blog/?p=278

[locallad]

Ok so horrible result the other day but I suppose we have to just forget that (as hard as it is) and move on now, lets get a good result tonight and build the confidence back up.

[Captain_Morgan]

Any team news yet???????

[byrnetred]

Liverpool line-up in full: Reina, Mascherano, Carragher, Skrtel, Insua, Benayoun, Gerrard, Alonso, Riera, Ngog, Kuyt. Subs: Cavalieri, Dossena, Hyypia, Aurelio, Babel, Lucas, El Zhar.

[byrnetred]

i honestly dont know what to say anymore

[Captain_Morgan]

Please tell me we are not playing our 18m midfielder at right back

[IrishRed1892]

----------Reina------------
Masch-Carra-Skrtel-Insua
------Gerrard-Alonso------
---Kuyt-----------Riera----
---------------Benny------
----------Ngog-------------

W...T...F

[IrishRed1892]

you never know it could turn out to be a great decision and he will play there for the rest of his career......:confused::confused::rolleyes::rolleye s::eek::eek::D:D:mad::mad::(:(

[byrnetred]

pefect opportunity for darby to play and he doesnt even make the bench

[Captain_Morgan]

----------Reina------------
Masch-Carra-Skrtel-Insua
------Gerrard-Alonso------
---Kuyt-----------Riera----
----------Ngog-------------

W...T...F

And WTF is that stocking doin up front,

[trucker]

pefect opportunity for darby to play and he doesnt even make the bench

Apparentley Darbys injured

[Liverpool-law]

i honestly dont know what to say anymore

What would you have instead? Babel and El Zhar rightly changed after their performance on saturday. Arbeloa injured and Darby untested in the Premier League, now is not the time to bring him in. Both Carra and Skrtel have been poor at right back. Rafa's only other option as i see it would be to play one of the left backs at right back. I think it's positive, we have more attackers on the field with Gerrard Alonso Kuyt Riera Benayoun and Ngog. Lets tear into them and get a few goals tonight. No options from the bench though.

[red1965]

no he will play stevie there

[Captain_Morgan]

you never know it could turn out to be a great decision and he will play there for the rest of his career......:confused::confused::rolleyes::rolleye s::eek::eek::D:D:mad::mad::(:(

Thats Rafa for ye,Stephen Darby must be sick

[byrnetred]

Apparentley Darbys injured
fair enough, no other alternative then cause cant expect hyypia to play 2 games in 4 days at his age

[Liverpool-law]

you never know it could turn out to be a great decision and he will play there for the rest of his career......:confused::confused::rolleyes::rolleye s::eek::eek::D:D:mad::mad::(:(

You're only playing with ten men :rolleyes:

[trucker]

Thats Rafa for ye,Stephen Darby must be sick

Darbys injured mate, reckon he would have played tonight, dont know how he got injured on the bench Saturday though?

[byrnetred]

Darbys injured mate, reckon he would have played tonight, dont know how he got injured on the bench Saturday though?
probably got piles:D

[Captain_Morgan]

What would you have instead? Babel and El Zhar rightly changed after their performance on saturday. Arbeloa injured and Darby untested in the Premier League, now is not the time to bring him in. Both Carra and Skrtel have been poor at right back. Rafa's only other option as i see it would be to play one of the left backs at right back. I think it's positive, we have more attackers on the field with Gerrard Alonso Kuyt Riera Benayoun and Ngog. Lets tear into them and get a few goals tonight. No options from the bench though.

No Its not its the opposite, Positive would have been to play 3 centre backs

no he will play stevie there

Not a snowballs chance in hell will he play our only creative player at right back,if he does my brain will explode:o

[red_shamrock]

prove me wrong Ngog, we'll be lucky to get the nil tonight.

[carpe diem]

----------Reina------------
Masch-Carra-Skrtel-Insua
------Gerrard-Alonso------
---Kuyt-----------Riera----
----------Ngog-------------

W...T...F

i know ya,wtf is he doing starting with 10 men !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::mad::mad::(:(:eek::eek::eek ::eek::D:D:D:D:D:D

[Captain_Morgan]

probably got piles:d

:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d

[Liverpool-law]

----------Reina------------
Masch-Carra-Skrtel-Insua
------Gerrard-Alonso------
---Kuyt-----------Riera----
----------Ngog-------------

W...T...F

It's a four four two formation, not one up front. Maybe if you use 11 players you'll get the picture

[corcaigh]

oh dear lord, we are there for the taking. no goal threat bar maybe stevie G coming up with something. wheres agger and Darby?

[IrishRed1892]

----------Reina------------
Masch-Carra-Skrtel-Insua
------Gerrard-Alonso------
---Kuyt-----------Riera----
---------------Benny------
----------Ngog-------------

W...T...F

You're only playing with ten men :rolleyes:

What are you on about???:confused:.....;)

[Captain_Morgan]

oh dear lord, we are there for the taking. no goal threat bar maybe stevie G coming up with something. wheres agger and Darby?
injured mate

[red_shamrock]

I have 0.68 left in my online betting account, stuck the lot on an ngog hatrick at 66-1, these selections have driven me round the twist.

[Liverpool-law]

oh dear lord, we are there for the taking. no goal threat bar maybe stevie G coming up with something. wheres agger and Darby?

What other attacking player could he have put in the team? Gerrard, Kuyt, Benayoun, Riera, Alonso and Ngog, you may not like them but it's all we've got in that department.

[Captain_Morgan]

What other attacking player could he have put in the team? Gerrard, Kuyt, Benayoun, Riera, Alonso and Ngog, you may not like them but it's all we've got in that department.

Should have gone 3 centre backs and left mascher protect the back 3

Babel is a better option than that ngog any day of the week

[Liverpool-law]

Should have gone 3 centre backs and left mascher protect the back 3

Babel is a better option than that ngog any day of the week

Playing three at the back is a bigger disruption to the team than playing Masch at rb for a game, it's not a change of system at least.

As for Babel, I was hoping for big things from him this year, but his performances this season have been very poor, saturday was abysmal and he is the most chicken-sh*t player to challenge for a ball I've seen playing for liverpool in a long time...

[Captain_Morgan]

Playing three at the back is a bigger disruption to the team than playing Masch at rb for a game, it's not a change of system at least.

As for Babel, I was hoping for big things from him this year, but his performances this season have been very poor, saturday was abysmal and he is the most chicken-sh*t player to challenge for a ball I've seen playing for liverpool in a long time...

Agree with ye on babel but he is still a better option than egg nog and we could do 3 at the back no bother we have done it before

[Liverpool-law]

No access to a tv for this one, any good links?

[denashpot]

Babel is a better option than that ngog any day of the week

really? wtf has he done this season. i'd rather give ngog a start and see what he can do.

[Captain_Morgan]

really? wtf has he done this season. i'd rather give ngog a start and see what he can do.

Hope im wrong mate but i dont think your going to see much

[GaryMc]

Right Ngog, lets fookin see ya.

2-0

[MrsStevieG]

Finding it hard to get excited about this one and I can't say the team selection inspires me with confidence either (injuries can't be helped I suppose).
But I tell ye one thing, the 11 on the pitch better play with a hell of a lot more passion and commitment than they did on Saturday!!!. Anyway that aside, let's hope we can get the three from this tonight. God know's we all need a lift at the moment.

[denashpot]

Hope im wrong mate but i dont think your going to see much

everyone on this site says babel is shite and rafa does'nt give youth a chance and then he goes away and does it and people complain! :rolleyes:

[D7Hooper]

Agree with ye on babel but he is still a better option than egg nog and we could do 3 at the back no bother we have done it before

I agree, It could be a 3-5-2 when you think about it. Also I'm pretty sure Masch has filled in at right back for Argentina a couple of times due to someone getting sent off in the Copa America. At least he is sending a a message to Babel that even when we're struggling for attacking players, he is still too shite to get a start.

[Captain_Morgan]

its ok giving youth a chance but ngog has not shown one single bit of ability to warrant a start tonight.

Anyway would giving youth a chance not cover babel as well he is still young

[Captain_Morgan]

I agree, It could be a 3-5-2 when you think about it. Also I'm pretty sure Masch has filled in at right back for Argentina a couple of times due to someone getting sent off in the Copa America. At least he is sending a a message to Babel that even when we're struggling for attacking players, he is still too shite to get a start.

defo 4 at the back rafa just confirmed it

[carpe diem]

found this site the other day,excellent streaming(no stop starting),great quality.

http://www.rincon-neutral.ucoz.com/index.html

[denashpot]

its ok giving youth a chance but ngog has not shown one single bit of ability to warrant a start tonight.

Anyway would giving youth a chance not cover babel as well he is still young

his young, has gotten his chance enough times and his playing shite. I hope he comes on and scores but we'll see i suppose.

[Liverpool-law]

found this site the other day,excellent streaming(no stop starting),great quality.

http://www.rincon-neutral.ucoz.com/index.html

Cheers

[denashpot]

Come on Liverpool! Do it for the manager and fans tonight ffs!!!!

[IrishRed1892]

funny how last season people were saying Babel was the signing of the season bar Nando but then he flopped and then this season people were saying Riera was the signing of the season and now he seems to have flopped also. Both left wingers. Still have confidence in Riera though

[GaryMc]

Martin Tyler has just said that Martin Skrtel played at RB on Saturday because Jamie Carragher asked not to. What's the that about?

[IrishRed1892]

right im off to watch the match see yiz at HT

COME ON YOU REDMEN!!!

[JohnnyChimpo]

At least he is sending a a message to Babel that even when we're struggling for attacking players, he is still too shite to get a start.
Yeah, and then still expect him to have some kind of confidence to change the game when we thow him on with 10 minutes left hoping for a miracle. Great forward thinking there.

[Captain_Morgan]

Martin Tyler has just said that Martin Skrtel played at RB on Saturday because Jamie Carragher asked not to. What's the that about?

If that true we have problems jamie should play where he is told to play

[Phil!]

Here we go come on boys!!!

[JohnnyChimpo]

Jesus that was scary.

[Phil!]

too easy well done pepe

[Captain_Morgan]

carra was caught too easy

[MR KING KENNY]

Jesus that was scary.
thank god jones is shit or we would be 1 down, commmmmmeeeeeeee ooooonnnnnn liverpool, i know its more or less over but we have to belive

[Tarabuses]

Martin Tyler has just said that Martin Skrtel played at RB on Saturday because Jamie Carragher asked not to. What's the that about?

That's what Rafa said after the match:confused:

[denashpot]

found this site the other day,excellent streaming(no stop starting),great quality.

http://www.rincon-neutral.ucoz.com/index.html

this one doesn't seem to work for me. any other links carpe or anyone?

[Tarabuses]

Aldo was on RTE this evening and said that Babel, Lucas and Dossena wouldn't have made the reserves in his day. We have them on the bench tonight:o

[Phil!]

Can see Ngog gettn a goal tonight for some reason(touch wood)

[Phil!]

whats omg

This thread is on tonights match and has nothing to do with Madrid tickets

[denashpot]

whats omg

oh my god. :eek:

[MR KING KENNY]

whats omg
oh
my
god

[denashpot]

i have tried www.atdhe.net, irag goals and the link carpe posted and all are off air. anyone else have these probs?

[MR KING KENNY]

i have tried www.atdhe.net, irag goals and the link carpe posted and all are off air. anyone else have these probs?
www.livetv.ru

[Liverpool-law]

http://www.justin.tv/gorsain

Jumpy but better than nothing

[denashpot]

http://www.justin.tv/gorsain

Jumpy but better than nothing

true! nice1 bud!;)

[MR KING KENNY]

i take it you did not read the rules for this website yet

[Gray72]

Someone needs to step up tonight! Any chance Kuyt, Benayoun, Ngog, Riera or Alonso?:confused:

[skiner31]

thanks for all your help lads great bunch of fans on this site

[skiner31]

so no one n this site has ever bought from a tout ya right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[denashpot]

ah sure i'll go back to watching the match too many wise guys and yah i'm made of porcelain great stuff child !!!!!!!!

wait til the mods see your posts. :D

http://www.emoticons4u.com/fingers/fing33.gif

[Captain_Morgan]

thanks for all your help lads great bunch of fans on this site

Dont mention it bud:p get next sundays papers plenty of ads for "agents" looking for easy money with big windows in their shops

[Phil!]

Anyway...

Started decent need to get a goal so were not hit on the break tough which would be typical!!

[Fowler's God]

http://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/539006

Decent stream....

[Gray72]

Does this game have a familar look to it? All the possession and no goals. Very little penetration and everyone looking to Gerrard to do something. 0-0 at half time?:mad:

[Fowler's God]

Need to step it up, too many passengers so far.

[Tarabuses]

your either having a wind up or your just plain stupid!

Leave the lad alone, he's only been with us a short time. Anyway your distracting me from the match. :)

[denashpot]

Leave the lad alone, he's only been with us a short time. Anyway your distracting me from the match. :)

http://www.emoticons4u.com/violent/sterb005.gif

[denashpot]

http://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/539006

Decent stream....

nice1 for posting that bud. fantastic link!

[Fowler's God]

nice1 for posting that bud. fantastic link!

No probs :D

Unlucky Mascherano, had support. Come you redmen!!

The atmosphere isn't great :(

[MR KING KENNY]

so no one n this site has ever bought from a tout ya right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry bud, but dont talk about touts on this site. i new to this site as well but its a golden rule not to buy off them, if you do buy off them of one of those wankers keep to yourself

[Tarabuses]

http://www.emoticons4u.com/violent/sterb005.gif

Where did you get that emoticon, much better than the ones available here?

[TubbyReina]

cant be anothernil all at home now can it?

[vincenzo]

Hows the match going??.Not watching it.On a computer course

[Fowler's God]

Disappointing really, not enough creativity in the side is killing us.

[Fowler's God]

Hows the match going??.Not watching it.On a computer course

You're not missing much, few chances here and there. 0-0 at HT

[vincenzo]

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

[Tarabuses]

cant be anothernil all at home now can it?

It could well be but, then again, maybe not.

[Gray72]

Absolute crap!!! This team is just devoid of anything inventive. We are just too cautious. The distribution from the back is woeful, Carra plays far too many straight balls. The two full backs offer nothing going forward. The two wide players offer nothing attacking wise and tuck in too often. Ngog has little or no threat on goal and Kuyt just runs around. So Sunderland just sit in until we get desperate in the last 10 and they'll knick one. We are so predictable! If Ngog is the best striker we have at the club in the absense of Torres we are in big big trouble! Dire dire dire!!

[locallad]

So 0-0 at half time which is not good, I just feel we lack attacking options, I think we can go on and win it but we need to get the finger out asap.

[IrishRed1892]

well alot better than Boro anyway I thought we had a few good chances

[Aido82]

whats the story with playing reira, he is having a mare at the moment

bring on babel.

Im beginning to believe that selling robbie was a BIG mistake


as for the dude asking what a ticket looked like - i almost fell off the chair here

[GaryMc]

here is a copy of a ticket

http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/05/goldenticket.gif

[locallad]

here is a copy of a ticket

http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/05/goldenticket.gif

hahahaha brilliant

[GaryMc]

this has the feel of a end of season game. No urgency at all. Everyone is looking for something to happen.

Still think will nick it.

Come on Ngog, I think he has done alright. Showed well on occassions

[Aido82]

here is a copy of a ticket

http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/05/goldenticket.gif

nice one :D

[MR KING KENNY]

here is a copy of a ticket

http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/05/goldenticket.gif
that was one rip off bar of choc

[vincenzo]

here is a copy of a ticket

http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/05/goldenticket.gif
Classic:D:D

[fermoyred80]

Absolute crap!!! This team is just devoid of anything inventive. We are just too cautious. The distribution from the back is woeful, Carra plays far too many straight balls. The two full backs offer nothing going forward. The two wide players offer nothing attacking wise and tuck in too often. Ngog has little or no threat on goal and Kuyt just runs around. So Sunderland just sit in until we get desperate in the last 10 and they'll knick one. We are so predictable! If Ngog is the best striker we have at the club in the absense of Torres we are in big big trouble! Dire dire dire!!

Masch is a defensive midfielder was never really gonna destroy defenders all game, he is getting forward tho. Unlucky with two efforts.

Our squad is general is very very light def not good enough for a Liverpool squad. Crowd is dead but then it works both ways. The players have yto give somethin to be excited about and in the last few weeks theres been very little. They seem too nervous

[locallad]

Some players just dont look interested to be honest and I think Riera is being found out for the average player he is. (My opinion)

[vincenzo]

Glad i'm not watching this one.:(

[IrishRed1892]

Surely a WUM? maybe im just paranoid

[IrishRed1892]

Glad i'm not watching this one.

Dunno what the other fellas think is wrong, it's a good game in comparison to performances so far IMO

[Captain_Morgan]

come on redmen lets lift it

[locallad]

Surely it can only get better, come on the pool

[Phil!]

Cannot have another 0-0 at home!!!

Come on Liverpool!!!

[vincenzo]

Dunno what the other fellas think is wrong, it's a good game in comparison to performances so far IMO
I'll probably get the last ten minutes.Hopefully it'll be better viewing by then.Come on lads get the finger out!!!!!!

[Liverpool-law]

Not as bad as some would make out, these boys held scum until last minute and held out against gunners. We've had a good few chances and Ngog has shown a few times, better than I've seen from him to date. Into the Kop we'll win it.

[Captain_Morgan]

:p:p:p

[locallad]

Get in ................

[Aido82]

ngog 1-0

reira cross from the left stevie heads in to ngogs paths, tap in

[Fowler's God]

Goal...eggNog

[Liverpool-law]

Ngog!

[Captain_Morgan]

the aul commentators curse

[vincenzo]

Gift. Come on lads finish them off

[Phil!]

Can see Ngog gettn a goal tonight for some reason(touch wood)

Really should put money on these things and not jusy say them:D:D

Delighted

[MR KING KENNY]

this what liverpool need to be doing from the start, liverpool score 1st and get the other team to come out of there half. need a 2nd:D

[TubbyReina]

anfields dead 2nyt isnt it?i know sunderland arent quite real madrid but still,very quiet

[MR KING KENNY]

anfields dead 2nyt isnt it?i know sunderland arent quite real madrid but still,very quiet
the crowd know we have thrown it away,

[Phil!]

Go on Yossi!! Ngog bikey very poor parry by keeper Benayoun tap in

[TubbyReina]

the crowd know we have thrown it away,

fulop threw it away ;)

[Fowler's God]

Get in...badly needed win...

Yossi has being impressive for a long while now.

[Phil!]

Now lets go hammer them!!

[MR KING KENNY]

he comes rafa's love child, the one and only lucas

[Fowler's God]

Lucas got a hair cut....about ****in time...

[Captain_Morgan]

wouldnt ye have loved to see another attacker come on and go for 3 or 4 rather than sit on what we have

[Phil!]

Should have taken Gerrard off and given him a rest after his injury left Ngog on was playin well and could give him alot more confidence especially if he could have bagged another


Crowd booing Lucas disgrace i dont care how bad he has played you dont boo your own players you support them!

[denashpot]

wouldnt ye have loved to see another attacker come on and go for 3 or 4 rather than sit on what we have

do we have another attacker?

[Captain_Morgan]

do we have another attacker?

babel or el zahr as bad as they were on sat its an ideal game to come into ,, two up game should be won

[denashpot]

Hope im wrong mate but i dont think your going to see much

i think you were wrong mate. :p

[Captain_Morgan]

i think you were wrong mate. :p


Beleive me mate id rather be wrong ;):D

[Fowler's God]

This what annoys a lot of us about Rafa, he should have went for the juggular tonight and hammer these guys back to the North-East.

[MR KING KENNY]

why does rafa what to stop playing, cant understand that, sunderland are there for the taken, we should be getting up on the goal diff, and scoring more to bring confidence to the team and fans

[Liverpool-law]

Looks to me like we're still pushing for a goal

[Captain_Morgan]

why does rafa what to stop playing, cant understand that, sunderland are there for the taken, we should be getting up on the goal diff, and scoring more to bring confidence to the team and fans

exactamundo

[Phil!]

9 mins for Babel to try and create something in a match that is long since won. Unfair on the lad

[Liverpool-law]

There's a definite Rafa can do no right vibe tonight, Babel was absolute crap on saturday and is lucky to get 9 mins tonight

[TubbyReina]

unlucky ryan

[Phil!]

There's a definite Rafa can do no right vibe tonight, Babel was absolute crap on saturday and is lucky to get 9 mins tonight

No im actually a big Rafa fan but the game was over after Benayouns goal maybe even Ngogs and a goal would do Babels confidence the world of good and that run there is just a sample of what he can do but he cant be expected to get straight into it with 9 mins left

[Captain_Morgan]

Well done reds , Yossi motm

[Fowler's God]

3 points major improvement on Saturday after the reports of that game.

Chavs also won, hope the toon can do us a turn tomorrow nite.

[trucker]

Good Result we looked comfortable, yossi outstanding again, Dirk was awful tonight, 3 points no injuries cant ask for anymore from that, goodnight lads

[GaryMc]

No complaining tonight. A much needed three points. Excellent performances from Benayoun and Insua. Insua is going to be some player. He is a great outlet down the left.

Hardly going to have the scum kacking themselves, but if Newcastle can get even a point tomorrow, a win a Old Toilet will close it up slightly.

[carpe diem]

VWf1MdHv80Q

a shaky first half but much improved in the 2nd,and after n'gogs goal the result was never in doubt,am happy with that,a win was needed to restore confidence lost,get in there !!

[Gray72]

That second half was 100% better. We looked dangerous going forward and pressed Sunderland. We moved the ball much quicker and got at them. Riera for the goal showed signs of what he's capable of but he only did it once. Babel came on and looked the deal. Benayoun was superb and he has been our consistent performwer of late. The back 4 were never troubled and we were spared the anxious last 10 at 0-0.

I think that is a solid team performance at home and we can be pleased. We have Madrid next up and if we show a similar performance we will be okay. The big one at Utd could be a real turning point for us and with Gerrard and Torres fit we can look forward with optimism. I'm happy tonight and that doesn't happen often. Well done boys a good professional job. I'll lay off Ngog as he bagged a goal.:D

[Phil!]

Good win.

Was impressed by Ngog he looked lively and so did Benayoun he had a very very good game. When Ngog came off there was nobody making runs into the box and didnt look like scorin. Babel looked interested tonight which has been a change from recent weeks and if he had been given more time perhaps would have got a goal. Unfortunately Chelsea also won tonight so were still third but if we can carry on gettin victories the season is definately not over. We need a bit of consistencey and be able to string a few wins on the trot together and a win against United is vital!! If we lose that then thats it game over lights out. But i actually believe Rafa can take us to Old Trafford and get us a win so come on you redmen lets go and get that victory we need!!!!

[Andrew]

Great result there for the reds. Delighted for N'Gog and Yossi. Will do them both the world of good.

4 points now behind ManU. The pressure is back on them now tomorrow. Not an easy game away to Newcastle. Could (fingers crossed) be a banana skin for em.

[D-Red]

Insua is going to be some player. He is a great outlet down the left.


Yeah, Insua is going to be a class act, excellent tonight.

Very natural player

[IrishRed1892]

Brilliant overall performance, dominated the 2nd half. Benayoun had a very good night and I thought Mascha played well at RB, didn't look out of place at all (could be the answer if Arbeloa leaves and Darby fails to impress).

Good 3 points and is a great result to take into next week with confidence. This is how we should be playing every week! Pity we seem to have hit form about 3/4 matches too late!

Cisse got a good reception from the Kop which was nice to see but booing Lucas when he came on was just out of order, no matter how shit he is ( and I think he put in a decent performance in the last few minutes BTW) you still don't boo your own players! Imagine what it would feel like to run out onto the pitch at Anfield, desperate to impress and your met by boos? I'm going to stop going on about that now because this could turn into a serious rant!

Anyway I'm happy tonight, 3 points all that matters!

Bring on Real! Torres to break Pepe's leg!:D;)

[Captain_Morgan]

yeah booing of lucas is bang out of order

[D7Hooper]

We have to be happy with that. Average first half, different team in the second for the most part.Good for egg nog to score his first at home. Thought Yossi was motm again, he's right bang in form lately which makes the decision to leave him on the bench against boro look even more fooked up. Insua class aswell. Looking for a favour from the magpies now, can't see it myself though, hope I'm wrong.

[MrsStevieG]

Can't complain about much there, much improved performance from Saturday once we got into the game. Delighted to see Ngog getting the goal, he has proved he is deserving of a chance up front if needs be. Even without the goal his play was impressive and he has a good attitude.
Yossi on fire again, well done!.

[redabbey]

Ok we had a bit of luck tonight probably for the 1st time in ages. Reina's save was very important early on in the half. If that had gone in.......

David N'Gog played well for his first Anfield start. I am glad that Rafa picked him ahead of Babbel. It appeared to be the poorest atmosphere at Anfield for some time. The fans booing Lucas was very poor.

We have to keep believing a win in our next premiership game and things might get interesting again.

[IrishRed1892]

We have to be happy with that. Average first half, different team in the second for the most part.Good for egg nog to score his first at home. Thought Yossi was motm again, he's right bang in form lately which makes the decision to leave him on the bench against boro look even more fooked up. Insua class aswell. Looking for a favour from the magpies now, can't see it myself though, hope I'm wrong.

if only they still had Given

[Phil!]

if only they still had Given

Yeah thats true cause Harper is Kack!!!

[Garrett]

Ok we had a bit of luck tonight probably for the 1st time in ages. Reina's save was very important early on in the half. If that had gone in.......

David N'Gog played well for his first Anfield start. I am glad that Rafa picked him ahead of Babbel. It appeared to be the poorest atmosphere at Anfield for some time. The fans booing Lucas was very poor.

We have to keep believing a win in our next premiership game and things might get interesting again.


Agree 100% mate

I'm forced to eat another slice of humble pie this evening also and again, congratulate Yosi ... he's starting to get the hang of this goal scoring lark, I'm very pleased to see.

Mind you, I'm not entirely sold on him yet ... but the season ain't over, Yosi if your listening mate you know what you gotta do, keep scoring for LFC ;)


Bottom line here is to get a 2-0 following recent games in the league, is simply great.

[Garrett]

Oh

BTW everyone, skiner31 has gone away for a few days, to think about the site rules.

Best if we close the conversation on him now and stick with the game.

Thanks for the support and reporting his posts btw guys & gals ;)

[redabbey]

Oh

BTW everyone, skiner31 has gone away for a few days, to think about the site rules.

Best if we close the conversation on him now and stick with the game.

Thanks for the support and reporting his posts btw guys & gals ;)

I was mad enough for a few minutes to actually think of helping him out and took a pic of my own ticket at half time but that was before I read his abusive posts.

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2685/liverpoolclticketru0.jpg

I was going to tell him if he was not buying the ticket at face value and if he had a picture of the ticket he was buying to ring the ticket office and report the fan card number to them to try and get this fan card cancelled.

I have removed the details of my own fan card in the pic above.

Hope to meet a few more Irish Kopites over at this game.

[MR KING KENNY]

Oh

BTW everyone, skiner31 has gone away for a few days, to think about the site rules.

Best if we close the conversation on him now and stick with the game.

Thanks for the support and reporting his posts btw guys & gals ;)
glad to hear that, what was he thinking

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Does this game have a familar look to it? All the possession and no goals. Very little penetration and everyone looking to Gerrard to do something. 0-0 at half time?:mad:

:D


Yossi's on fire at the moment-is fast emerging as our best performer since christmas-great save from pepe early on (albeit from a poor finish from jones).No doubt he wont get the praise he deserves in tomorrows papers but it was crucial-most keepers would have rushed out and gone to ground early which makes up the attackers mind on where to put it but pepe held his ground and waited and waited and basically spooked jones into bottling it-well in pepe lad.Could have been a very different game with them trying to hold onto a 1 goal lead.Thought everyone had a pretty decent game tonight with the possible exception of riera who looks astonishingly lost after a promising start.Im praying thats its just the tiredness catching up on him but he keeps cutting inside onto his right foot(something he doesnt have unfortunately).

[STEVE1978]

here is a copy of a ticket

http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/05/goldenticket.gif

lmao.

[Rover 609]

Booing of Lucas a fu'cking disgrace,how do these cu'nts get hold of tickets?

[born red 79]

anyone see aldo in the sub last night??

[Badman]

i agree that both yossi and insua were excellent - but what odds both will be dropped for the madrid and utd games...how will insua get better unless he plays against the best. Insua is our best (and fittest) left back at the club, was terrrific last night, a real natural footballer with a good first touch and excellent vision. Yossi is no world beater but is in fine form so it would be daft to drop him, he looks a threat in the final 3rd wihich we've sorely lacked. all in all i was happy, esp with the 2nd half. and delighted fro ngog, he's no torres but then who is. at imes he looked lost and had the odd dodgy touch but was hubgry, enthusuiastic and got stuck in...great to see him get the ovation when he went off.
on a side note, i may not rate lucas same as most on here...but the booing of him before he even touched the ball was disgraceful

[Meijer the trier]

Cant see Banyoun starting at OT - if Torres is fit he'll surely go for Riera/Gerrard/Kuyt behind him.
Anyway good result, performance was what you come to expect at home at these type of teams. A lot of huff and puff but not so much quality.
Maybe just maybe Newcastle might sneak a draw tonight and then a smash and grab at OT and we might put the jitters in em. Feck it, who am I kidding?

[bobby benitez]

The booing was way out of order. Not that many actually booed though, but because the atmosphere was so shite you could hear them quite clearly. What was actually louder was the angry response of other fans to the knobs booing.

The poor lad is terrified and no chance of improving his confidence at Anfield. I was watching him warming up last night, he didn't look up once at the crowd and never got within 15 yards of the kop. I know he is a pro, well paid etc, but he is a human being doing is work in horrendous circumstances and could do with our support.

The only hope for him is a last minute winner @ old trafford to silence the fickle cu*nts.

[prendy]

good performance but not a great performance. We still lack a cutting edge. Yossi was good yet again, hope he starts in Kuyts place in OT. Atleast he is somewhat creative.

come on the toon!

[padski08]

We need lady luck to be on our side tonight. We had one decent half last night but we are really going to need to up our game for scum saturday week. We have more time off before then, so lets hope benitez utilises time well and picks out their weaknesses

Big 3 games coming up - 2 wins and draw be enough as long as Real is the draw ;)

[Fowler-9-]

Just back in from the game, thought we were a bit cagey in the first half to be honest but that was to be expected after our recent run of games. Ngog impressed me very very much his movement, strenght, heading was great, tried one or two dummies that didn't come off but were clever, showed that maybe he could be a player for us.

Yossi was immense last night, he links up with Kuyt brilliantly and he matched Kuyts work rate last night the man worked his socks off. Carra was as reliable as ever. Mascher had a stormer at right back, passing was a bit better and his crossing was average, which lets be honest in an improvement on oul Arby's deliveries. Srktel brought the ball into midfield a lot from short kick outs which was good to see as we were in total control of possesion. Emmy bombing down the left was class, the lad was basically out on the left on his own.

Man I am really fed up with Rieira and Babel. Both offering nothing to the team at the minute, we have no 'out' ball to the left wing at all, I was amazed to see how often Rieira folllows Gerrard inside (I thought Smicer was gone). Babel came on and done the usual take the ball down the outside, cut back in to give a pass back to the opposite keeper. I would nearly play Fabio left mid and Insua left full (or vice versa) as i feel it would offer more balance and end product.

Shame to hear Lucas being booed, could you hear it on the telly??? the lad came on with ten minutes to go gave one bad pass i mean how is he getting booed and Rieira isn't last night, a joke!!! If it wasn't for Phil Neville's hand, Lucas wouldn't have this treatment.

Great ovation for Cisse, he done his bit for us when he came on, pity Bellamy couldn't have followed suit!!!!

IN RAFA WE TRUST!!!

[Melion]

Just back from the game. Shocking first half, absolutely awful so i wont even get into it.

Second half was a 100% improvement, Yossi was class again, Insua looks like he is going to be the real deal. Masch looked brilliant at right back, he got forward more last night than he has ever done for us :D. I felt N'Gog played well, made some great runs in the first half and was unlucky that the passes didnt match his intelligence. Gerrard was absolutely shocking, no excuse for a performance like that.

Atmosphere was terrible aswell, i was in the anny road lower which i was expecting to be quiet but not as bad as it was. The booing of Lucas was a disgrace, how can you expect him to come out of a slump when he is getting booed like that, a few serious arguments broke out around me about it. Didnt do anything wrong when he came on except one over-hit pass in injury time.

Oh and did anyone else see Babel wearing the armband when he came on? Stevie gave it to him when he was going off, Babel was going to bring it back down to Carra who basically told him "Get up front, forget about the armband"

[Fowler-9-]

\

Oh and did anyone else see Babel wearing the armband when he came on? Stevie gave it to him when he was going off, Babel was going to bring it back down to Carra who basically told him "Get up front, forget about the armband"

Never noticed it mate, i assume he gave it the Carra when the ball went out,

[Melion]

I think he wore it for the 10 minutes or so he was on

[edcarroll02]

Great to see the team back playing well again, not too sure what clicked with them last night but there just seemed to be a pretty good balance in the team thats been missing in a lot of games. Didn't have that feeling that i've been getting recently that we were never going to score.

Great to see Ngog getting a goal and i thought he was pretty good all round other than that. Insua and Benni were both fantastic last night and i have to say that you could have easily persuaded me last night that Masch was our starting full back, Arby really doesnt' have anything on him, though Masch did amazingly manage to foul someone in the last few minutes over in the left back position, put it down to a moment of madness. I even thought that Babel looked dangerous when he came on and managed to actually get past the full back for the first time in a while.

Gerrard and Alonso did what the needed to in the middle and kept the ball moving without either of them actually playing that well. It makes Alonso far more cautious not having the monster covering behind him.

Unfortunately despite all of the above its just far too little, far too late. Even had they turned it on at the weekend against the Boro i would have felt we were still in the hunt but 10 points is far too many.

[Paul]

Good win last night and well done Rafa on the team put out.
Nice to see different players stepping up to the plate,Benayoun,Insua and Ngog were our 3 match winners.
Treatment of Lucas by a no doubt very small section of the crowd was an absolute disgrace when you see some of the stinkers other players (fans favs) have been in this season. Better to be rated by the fans than Rafa it seems :rolleyes:

[fermoyred80]

I think he wore it for the 10 minutes or so he was on

Nah lad, I noticed it on the telly. He didnt put it on you could clearly see it in his hand for a while after he came on. Cara had it on towards to end then

[Fowler-9-]

Nah lad, I noticed it on the telly. He didnt put it on you could clearly see it in his hand for a while after he came on. Cara had it on towards to end then

Could you hear the Lucas boos on telly?

Jesus there was some muppet behind me last night that literally spent 90 minutes chanting "who are ya??" What purpose does that chant serve???

[Paul]

Could you hear the Lucas boos on telly?

Jesus there was some muppet behind me last night that literally spent 90 minutes chanting "who are ya??" What purpose does that chant serve???

Hope you told him you were Fowler-9- :D

[bobby benitez]

There was 2 knobs behind me shouting "he's Scotlands no1" at there keeper. I dont know were Fulop is from but he is not Craig Gordon. Clowns also booed Lucas.

[Paul]

There was 2 knobs behind me shouting "he's Scotlands no1" at there keeper. I dont know were Fulop is from but he is not Craig Gordon. Clowns also booed Lucas.

Don't think he's even Hungarys number 1 anymore and Gordon won't be Scotlands number 1 for much longer either :D.

On a seprate not i was impressed with the way Sunderland tried the pass the ball and move last night. They look much better than they did under a previous manager whose name escapes me ;)

[Fowler-9-]

Don't think he's even Hungarys number 1 anymore and Gordon won't be Scotlands number 1 for much longer either :D.

On a seprate not i was impressed with the way Sunderland tried the pass the ball and move last night. They look much better than they did under a previous manager whose name escapes me ;)

Don't all you Munstonians idolise that very man

Had some craic on train back to manc with some sunderland fans.

Andy Reid is bursting with talent, pity it's not the only thing he's bursting with though, could be an asset for Ireland, he can sure pass a ball. Jones looked alright but missed a sitter i don't understand the hype.

[redspider]

Whilst the 2-0 win over Sunderland is a welcome 3 pts, it still doesnt remedy some of the problems that we have. I didnt see the match so can only go by what I read elsewhere. Some positives, but the negatives remain.

Masch did a good job for a midfielder at right back it seems. But it goes to show that Rafa perhaps offloaded Finnan a bit too soon. Whilst Arbeloa has developed into something that is acceptable, we dont have cover, or we did a bit with Carra.

Good to see Insua back. I have hopes for him and he didnt put a foot wrong last time I saw him play. What I dont understand was as soon as he got into the Liverpool team he went off with Argentina U-20's. And has only come back now. Instead he should have remained and would now be an ever-present, apart from forays by Aurelio. Aurelio is okay, and is good at frees. Could he do a job at left mid? In some games, perhaps yes. So we have two recent buys at Babel and Riera as back-up/surplus? Hmmm.

Skrtel was shaky at the start and they could have easily got a goal with that chance. 0-1 down, this game may have been completely different. But such is football.

N'Gog did okay I suspect but he is no lethal goal finisher, thats for sure. Benni and Kuyt plenty of effort as usual, not always product. And Stevie is Stevie, as is Alonso and Carra.

Are we back in the chase? I dont know. Three big games coming up. 3 wins would be nice, but not likely. Fingers crossed.

Redspider

[Liverpool-law]

But it goes to show that Rafa perhaps offloaded Finnan a bit too soon.
Redspider

While, like most Pool fans I was a big fan of Finnan, I can't see how it would have helped this season to be paying his wages on the treatment table.

[Daz]

Good to see Insua back. I have hopes for him and he didnt put a foot wrong last time I saw him play. What I dont understand was as soon as he got into the Liverpool team he went off with Argentina U-20's. And has only come back now. Instead he should have remained and would now be an ever-present, apart from forays by Aurelio. Aurelio is okay, and is good at frees. Could he do a job at left mid? In some games, perhaps yes. So we have two recent buys at Babel and Riera as back-up/surplus? Hmmm.

Skrtel was shaky at the start and they could have easily got a goal with that chance. 0-1 down, this game may have been completely different. But such is football.




How are both Riera and Babel back up / surplus if Aurelio can sometime do a job at LM. Maybe I'm misreading what your trying to say.

With regards to the Jones chance, I would put the blame for that mainly at Carras door. Got caugh wrong side.

[Paul]

Don't all you Munstonians idolise that very man

Had some craic on train back to manc with some sunderland fans.

Andy Reid is bursting with talent, pity it's not the only thing he's bursting with though, could be an asset for Ireland, he can sure pass a ball. Jones looked alright but missed a sitter i don't understand the hype.

Location is Munster....nothing else about me ;)
Andy Reid done a good Walrus impression last night :D

[Liverpool-law]

How are both Riera and Babel back up / surplus if Aurelio can sometime do a job at LM. Maybe I'm misreading what your trying to say.


+ 1
You need minimum two players for each position in the team, regardless of whether they could also fill in at a different position.

[D-Red]

Booing of Lucas a fu'cking disgrace,how do these cu'nts get hold of tickets?

That was the saddest thing about last night, not even that the atmosphere was flat but the idiots that boo'd Lucas as he came on. As Ronan said there its a pity that morons like that manage to get tickets at all.

Read a well written article about the booing (and more besides that) earlier:

(taken from liverpool banter)


Enough is enough. The reaction of Liverpool fans when Lucas was introduced in last nights game was an utter embarrassment.

We've all reached the point where we realise Lucas is never in a million years going to perform to the ability of players who have gone before him, or even those who are around him, but surly the booing of a 21 year old player before he's actually kicked a ball, proves just how far the pendulum has swung.

Liverpool fans have installed this mentality where they have a defined right to success, and on which basis? Because we dominated the 70's and ruled the 80's?

Well a wake up call is required, we have a manager at the helm who has played a significant part in the clubs modern history, yet people are still baying for blood and spreading vicious rumours, when in reality they should have been soaking up the sun in the Spanish capital.

It's a case of when is this circus going to end. From owners who won't back Benitez, to Chief Executives who won't speak to owners, to supporters who believe they know better than everyone else. In some cases they probably do, but take a look at the Liverpool hierarchy, and to be honest, it's not exactly hard to.


Last night was the lowest reaction I've ever seen to a substitute, those who did jeer must have simply not been around in the 90's when the red shirt meant nothing more than beer tokens for 'professionals' who deemed it more appropriate to clinch the next modelling contract opposed to three points.

Every club has a scapegoat, and every era has one too, some of them deserve the title, and others don't. But the point is now the boo boys are not even waiting for a mistake before getting on the players/managers back.

It's a new generation of support, those who pay strictly to be entertained, and it's only going to get worse.

The pretty picture of the Kop swaying with scarves held aloft as they suck the ball in is one of yesteryear, now we see a crowd which consists of drab groans and boo's despite the fact just a week ago we witnessed yet another amazing European night.

The consensus is Liverpool supporters crave the Premiership title and it looks despite being in such a strong position as the new year entered the dream is now likely to fizzle out with all hopes being pinned to the incredibly difficult Champions League, however, one things for sure, if your pinning your hopes on European success the one man you want leading you into battle is Rafael Benitez.

[sultana]

I was shocked by the booing too but to say he didnt get near the kop isnt true he came down and was clapped and he clapped back. I'm his harshest critic on boards but for God's sake it's a disgrace to boo him when he's coming on the f*** pitch.
I'd say it was the f*** digital camera merchants taking photos in the kop when had a corner at 0-0!!

[pam]

I was right in the corner of the kop 5th row beside the flag pole and he was clapped when warming up,

i cant belive the fcuking arseholes booing, people that boo the team dont deserve to be there, that really does a players confidience in, once the manager puts a player on that pitch its up to us to support him, im sure the other players on the pitch last night felt the total lack of respect. it was a disgrace

[BretHart]

Booing a player is so pathetic it's unbelievable, it's just disgraceful, I'd love to actually find someone that did Boo him and see what point they were trying to make.

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

cant believe I didnt notice the booing at the time.Thats just ****ing sickening.I'm only young myself but it's really worrying to think what the next generation of fans are going to be like.What will the anfield atmosphere be like in 30 years?

[Raven136]

cant believe I didnt notice the booing at the time.Thats just ****ing sickening.I'm only young myself but it's really worrying to think what the next generation of fans are going to be like.What will the anfield atmosphere be like in 30 years?

want to know what our next generation fans will be like?watch a game in any pub with United fans and there is your answer.

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

At the start of the season,i wonder what odds you would have got on N'Gog scoring more Kop goals than Robbie Keane!

i always like to see a player keep his place after he scores so he can build some confidence and momentum-unfortunately with N'Gog we cant afford to risk him with madrid and the scum on the horizon.Hopefully he can get another few goals and games under his belt before the seasons out.

[kelly jones]

http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/forum/1st-team-2008-2009/75874-liverpool-2-sunderland-0-prem-mar-3-2009-a.html