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Aido82
12-09-2007, 07:58 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/6985879.stm


Craig Bellamy scored a brace and forced an own goal as Wales confounded their critics with a fine win away in Trnava.

Marek Mintal gave Slovakia an early lead, controlling and firing home in one swift movement, but Freddy Eastwood equalised from Joe Ledley's cross.

Then Bellamy scored twice in quick succession, each time racing clear from through balls by Eastwood and Ledley.

Mintal pulled one back, but Jan Durica's own goal and a late breakaway strike by Simon Davies sealed the win.

Wales have not made a habit of winning away from home, their last in competition coming against Northern Ireland almost two years ago.

But this result at the Anton Malatinsky Stadium - against a team ranked 35 places above them - showed that a corner may have been turned by John Toshack's youthful side.

It was the first time Wales have scored five goals in an away match in 11 years.

Although it is probably too late for Wales to qualify for Euro 2008 from this Group D, they can have significant influence on who does if they continue to play like this.

The result leaves Wales fifth, after eight games level on 10 points with Slovakia who have a better goal difference.
Wales suffered the late loss of defender Lewin Nyatanga, as the 19-year-old was flown home in the afternoon before the match with a back problem.

It meant that Peterborough's Craig Morgan stepped in for his third cap, forming a defensive central back three with Danny Gabbidon and James Collins in a 5-3-2 formation.

Vratislav Gresko caused an early panic in the Wales defence, as the former Blackburn player cut in from the left and fired in a cross that pinballed dangerously across the area.

Despite that early warning Sam Ricketts, in the right wing-back position, again stood off Gresko who this time measured an aerial cross that led to Slovakia's opener on 12 minutes.

Collins did well to get his head to the ball but was unable to clear and, as Ledley dawdled, Mintal had time to bring the ball down and fire into the top-left corner of Wayne Hennessey's goal.

The Wolves stopper denied Mintal a second soon after, then pulled off a full-length diving save as Marek Cech fizzed in a 25-yard shot after a corner had been knocked back to him.

But any thoughts that a repeat of last October's 5-1 beating in Cardiff might be on the cards was dismissed as Wales hit back with an equaliser after 22 minutes.

Bellamy collected a good ball into feet and picked out Ledley's burst into the left of the Slovak box.

The Cardiff youngster spotted Eastwood at the back post, who got enough contact to arc the ball into the net for his second international goal in just his third Wales appearance.

Ledley had just been switched with Gareth Bale from left wing-back to left midfield and Wales looked far more solid down that flank as a result.

If that partnership looked better, the new strike pairing of Bellamy and Eastwood suddenly blossomed into life to give Wales the lead.

Bellamy had missed Saturday's 2-0 loss to Germany to be at the bedside of his ill newly-born daughter, but made up for lost time as Eastwood's pass caught the Slovak defence flat.

There was still work to be done but Bellamy motored goalward before clipping a cool left-foot shot back across Stefan Senecky into the far top corner.

Seven minutes later the West Ham forward struck again with an even better goal, as Ledley robbed possession in midfield before clipping a lofted pass forward.

Bellamy gathered in his stride and this time powered a left-footer into the near top corner.

Hennessey ensured that two-goal cushion stayed intact for half-time, as he just tipped a late shot from Filip Holosko onto the bar.

Slovakia applied some early pressure but Wales nearly stretched their lead with a swift counter-attack.

A ball out of defence found Bellamy streaking up the left wing, who just failed to find Eastwood's forehead as the Wolves hitman burst into the box.

But Slovakia produced a fine counter of their own to pull a goal back, Cech driving into the heart of the Wales defence before playing in Mintal to score his second.

The end-to-end nature of an enjoyable game - unfortunately played in front of a sparse crowd - continued and Bellamy almost claimed a hat-trick as his speculative cross hit the back post.

Wales boss Toshack opted to keep what they had by replacing Eastwood with defensive midfielder Carl Fletcher.

But Bellamy was just as happy in the lone role up front and another break and cross forced Durica, who had been given a torrid night, to turn into his own net.

Slovakia came gamely on in search of a way back after that 78th-minute blow, but Wales' defence held their nerve while Hennessey continued to impress behind them.

Davies sealed things with a last-minute strike, again sparked from a thrilling run and cross by that man Bellamy, to ensure a glowing Wales win.




if wales can beat them 5 - 2 away it says alot about stan and the irish team

JOE
12-09-2007, 08:06 PM
Please God, get rid of Stan...

Aido82
12-09-2007, 08:29 PM
i hear ya,

stan has to go before the start of the world cup qualifers. euro 08 is gone forget about it.

We need someone that can make use of the talent that we have

sean
12-09-2007, 09:07 PM
There's not a hope Stan is going to get the sack. He's made his point that youth has been given its chance and he's the man who knows them best to take them onto the world cup qualifiers.

YNWA
12-09-2007, 09:50 PM
Delaney Out Now!

megager
13-09-2007, 08:13 AM
1985, the last time an irish team werent in with a chance of qualifying going into the last round of the campaign.

I hope wales, germany and cyprus beat us. Yes it would mean a 4 seed ranking again, but i suspect if we finish 3rd, the 3 seeding for next campaign could be used as a sign of progress. Utter crap of course.

I think obviously stan should be sacked. But the FAI needs a clear out too. This campaign was a joke, and you know it wasnt a terrible group. The Czechs are past it, the germans are ok, but they wont win euro 2008, slovakia, wales, cyprus san marino.....

paddyb
13-09-2007, 09:32 AM
we should have got out of this group easily
i dont think international football is about having a team of world class players anymore.
In the last few years, the teams that have done well have been very organised

jaws2
13-09-2007, 09:49 AM
When you see results like Scotland beating France in Paris and Iceland drawing with Spain on Wed it just goes to show that there are no great international teams out there. Like paddy says if you can get a group of players who are willing to work hard and who want to play for their country and get them organised you can go a long way. Only trouble is you have to get your best team on the pitch and Stan hasn't done that in the last couple of games.

Malzheimer
13-09-2007, 09:50 AM
Staunton clearly doesn't have a clue how to do even the simple aspects of management, i.e. team selection. Kelly on the left? O' Shea? Mcgeady and Zinadeine on the wings and Hunt on the bench? The O'Shea injury made his job easy for him, so he could bring Hunt on without it looking like he was admitting to making a mistake. Stan and Delaney out!! Start from scratch for WC 2010.

scousedub
13-09-2007, 10:10 AM
I agree Stan should go..but who do we get to replace him. When Kerr went there was a distinct lack of applicants which is why we ended up with Staunton. The only possible candidates i can see are Aldo or O'Leary as we are never going to get a top quality manager like Hiddinck or O'Neill due to the small salary offered in comparison to other international teams or the premiership.

megager
13-09-2007, 10:22 AM
Joe kinnear...if he is still around? I know he had heart trouble, but he could organise. When Wimbledon sacked him, they slipped through the divisions.

O' leary is an option but he might want to much money.

Maybe a mercenary foreigner of the ilk of Troussier or Milatonavic
Why not try a league of irealnd manager? Might seem crazy, but would be cheap, might instill some pride in the shirt and maybe have a look at some players at home who would die to play in a green shirt, something a lot of the current bunch wont do

Malzheimer
13-09-2007, 11:26 AM
For me the ideal available affordable realistic candidate would be Paul Jewell. Fair enough he's not irish but he's a passionate manager, who's Wigan team were always very well drilled and organised. He got the best out of a small squad of players to choose from. I don't think there is anyone Irish tactically sound enough to take on the job, with the relevant experience. As an LOI fan I can't see anyone being equipped enough to take the job in the league at the moment. Unless you look at Steven Kenny, ex- Derry City manager currently with Dunfirmline, he would do a good job IMO

paddyb
13-09-2007, 12:23 PM
Jewell is a good shout, part time job might suit him if he is worried about his health

megager
13-09-2007, 01:51 PM
Jewell is an excellent idea. You should work in FAI. I reckon he would do a great job

paddyb
13-09-2007, 01:54 PM
nah he could never work in the fai, having a good idea has already knocked him out of the running!

Paul
13-09-2007, 02:57 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/6985879.stm



if wales can beat them 5 - 2 away it says alot about stan and the irish team

Yes we know Ireland are poor but these comparisons are cack. Wales got 3 pts from Slovakia while we got 4. We're all poor teams, i mean how the feck did Wales lose 3-0 at home to them :rolleyes:

Malzheimer
13-09-2007, 03:25 PM
The FAI would be too stubborn and proud to sack Staunton for an English manager contrary to people's opinions who actually have a clue about football. He'll be there for the 2010 qualifying campaign I fear. It would be like admitting failure and heaven forbid Delaney and co look stupid.

Paul, I think Wales actually lost 5-1 in Cardiff to Slovakia.

clarni
13-09-2007, 03:34 PM
FAI won't admit that they made a mistake...the same way Stan can't admit when he's gotten the choice all wrong
Hunt should have been on from the start last night.
Stan was going on about a team in training for 2010...Well we won't get that far unless he resigns. Coz he won't get sacked!!

homer1
13-09-2007, 03:48 PM
The FAI would be too stubborn and proud to sack Staunton for an English manager contrary to people's opinions who actually have a clue about football. He'll be there for the 2010 qualifying campaign I fear. It would be like admitting failure and heaven forbid Delaney and co look stupid.

Paul, I think Wales actually lost 5-1 in Cardiff to Slovakia.

Nothing to do with stubborness Mal, if Stan goes then the general concensus is that Delaney has to go too - hence the hesitency to wield the axe

clarni
13-09-2007, 03:55 PM
Nothing to do with stubborness Mal, if Stan goes then the general concensus is that Delaney has to go too - hence the hesitency to wield the axe

Delaney has to be voted in each year. I can't get over why they keep voting him in. Jobs for the boys??

Malzheimer
13-09-2007, 04:29 PM
Nothing to do with stubborness Mal, if Stan goes then the general concensus is that Delaney has to go too - hence the hesitency to wield the axe

It's a catch 22, someone needs to step in and clear out all the dead wood, start fresh for WC 2010

homer1
14-09-2007, 07:39 AM
It's a catch 22, someone needs to step in and clear out all the dead wood, start fresh for WC 2010

No arguements there pal

Paul
18-10-2007, 04:38 PM
The FAI would be too stubborn and proud to sack Staunton for an English manager contrary to people's opinions who actually have a clue about football. He'll be there for the 2010 qualifying campaign I fear. It would be like admitting failure and heaven forbid Delaney and co look stupid.

Paul, I think Wales actually lost 5-1 in Cardiff to Slovakia.

Even worse:D