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We dont deserve to qualify

Discussion in 'International Football' started by Aido82, Sep 12, 2007.

  1. Aido82

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/6985879.stm

    if wales can beat them 5 - 2 away it says alot about stan and the irish team
     
  2. JOE

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    Please God, get rid of Stan...
     
  3. Aido82

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    i hear ya,

    stan has to go before the start of the world cup qualifers. euro 08 is gone forget about it.

    We need someone that can make use of the talent that we have
     
  4. sean

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    There's not a hope Stan is going to get the sack. He's made his point that youth has been given its chance and he's the man who knows them best to take them onto the world cup qualifiers.
     
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    Delaney Out Now!
     
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    1985, the last time an irish team werent in with a chance of qualifying going into the last round of the campaign.

    I hope wales, germany and cyprus beat us. Yes it would mean a 4 seed ranking again, but i suspect if we finish 3rd, the 3 seeding for next campaign could be used as a sign of progress. Utter crap of course.

    I think obviously stan should be sacked. But the FAI needs a clear out too. This campaign was a joke, and you know it wasnt a terrible group. The Czechs are past it, the germans are ok, but they wont win euro 2008, slovakia, wales, cyprus san marino.....
     
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    we should have got out of this group easily
    i dont think international football is about having a team of world class players anymore.
    In the last few years, the teams that have done well have been very organised
     
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    When you see results like Scotland beating France in Paris and Iceland drawing with Spain on Wed it just goes to show that there are no great international teams out there. Like paddy says if you can get a group of players who are willing to work hard and who want to play for their country and get them organised you can go a long way. Only trouble is you have to get your best team on the pitch and Stan hasn't done that in the last couple of games.
     
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    Staunton clearly doesn't have a clue how to do even the simple aspects of management, i.e. team selection. Kelly on the left? O' Shea? Mcgeady and Zinadeine on the wings and Hunt on the bench? The O'Shea injury made his job easy for him, so he could bring Hunt on without it looking like he was admitting to making a mistake. Stan and Delaney out!! Start from scratch for WC 2010.
     
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    I agree Stan should go..but who do we get to replace him. When Kerr went there was a distinct lack of applicants which is why we ended up with Staunton. The only possible candidates i can see are Aldo or O'Leary as we are never going to get a top quality manager like Hiddinck or O'Neill due to the small salary offered in comparison to other international teams or the premiership.
     
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    Joe kinnear...if he is still around? I know he had heart trouble, but he could organise. When Wimbledon sacked him, they slipped through the divisions.

    O' leary is an option but he might want to much money.

    Maybe a mercenary foreigner of the ilk of Troussier or Milatonavic
    Why not try a league of irealnd manager? Might seem crazy, but would be cheap, might instill some pride in the shirt and maybe have a look at some players at home who would die to play in a green shirt, something a lot of the current bunch wont do
     
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    For me the ideal available affordable realistic candidate would be Paul Jewell. Fair enough he's not irish but he's a passionate manager, who's Wigan team were always very well drilled and organised. He got the best out of a small squad of players to choose from. I don't think there is anyone Irish tactically sound enough to take on the job, with the relevant experience. As an LOI fan I can't see anyone being equipped enough to take the job in the league at the moment. Unless you look at Steven Kenny, ex- Derry City manager currently with Dunfirmline, he would do a good job IMO
     
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    Jewell is a good shout, part time job might suit him if he is worried about his health
     
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    Jewell is an excellent idea. You should work in FAI. I reckon he would do a great job
     
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    nah he could never work in the fai, having a good idea has already knocked him out of the running!
     
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    Yes we know Ireland are poor but these comparisons are cack. Wales got 3 pts from Slovakia while we got 4. We're all poor teams, i mean how the feck did Wales lose 3-0 at home to them :rolleyes:
     
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    The FAI would be too stubborn and proud to sack Staunton for an English manager contrary to people's opinions who actually have a clue about football. He'll be there for the 2010 qualifying campaign I fear. It would be like admitting failure and heaven forbid Delaney and co look stupid.

    Paul, I think Wales actually lost 5-1 in Cardiff to Slovakia.
     
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    FAI won't admit that they made a mistake...the same way Stan can't admit when he's gotten the choice all wrong
    Hunt should have been on from the start last night.
    Stan was going on about a team in training for 2010...Well we won't get that far unless he resigns. Coz he won't get sacked!!
     
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    Nothing to do with stubborness Mal, if Stan goes then the general concensus is that Delaney has to go too - hence the hesitency to wield the axe
     
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    Delaney has to be voted in each year. I can't get over why they keep voting him in. Jobs for the boys??
     

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