V Atletico Madrid (H)

[SUPERFAN]

i feel like Offaly in 1982,i stopped the 5 in a row;)

[marathonman]

i feel like Offaly in 1982,i stopped the 5 in a row;)

Thought it was more like us on sunday stopping Chelsea the 87th in a row myself (and if it wasn't, it sure seemed like it)

[carpe diem]

ageuro not playing at the weekend,might only play a bit part in the champions league game.

[Judas Souness]

Couldnt care less about this now.....Rafa should just send out any old bunch, but make sure Torres gets some match practice. Babel should also get a look in. Riera needs a break. Diggler needs a break. F**k it, I NEED A BREAK!

[corcaigh]

i feel like Offaly in 1982,i stopped the 5 in a row;)
cheers superfan, variety is the spice of life.

[Judas Souness]

Siamo could be a target for us come January.

It would be important for us to show him what he is missing......{and then Jamie can kick the legs off him}

Jamie has to start, if not for his confidence then at least for being preferential to Arbeloa at CB:eek:

I would hazard

-----------------------------REINA----------------------------------------

------Arbeloa----------CarrAgger--------------------------------Dossena

----------------------------Mascherano-----------------------------

------Benny-----------------Gerrard----------------------------Babel

-------------------N'Gog--------------Torres--------------------------

Keane, and Diggler and Alonso and Riera need rests. Plain as.

[SUPERFAN]

Couldnt care less about this now.....Rafa should just send out any old bunch

are you serious?
each to their own but i think that's a ridiculous statement.
they've 7 Points from 3 Games,they need to Win at least 1 more Game to advance to the Knockout Stage...

[Judas Souness]

are you serious?
each to their own but i think that's a ridiculous statement.
they've 7 Points from 3 Games,they need to Win at least 1 more Game to advance to the Knockout Stage...


Yes, I made that comment in haste after the Spurs game.

Still, I think we can escape by playing Torres and N'Gog- Keane, Riera, Alonso and Kuyt all MUST REST.

Babel, N'Gog, Gerrard, Torres....if there isnt a goal in there I dont know where there is!

In fact. Drop N'Gog and play Lucas, might take the strain off Steven.

[sean]

Keane, Riera, Alonso and Kuyt all MUST REST

Bollocks to that anyway! All four of them will surely be key members of the team on Tuesday night. Rafa isn't gonna go fannying about resting the likes of these against a team like Athletico Madrid, in the European Cup of all competitions. And its four days before West Brom come to our patch so not like we'll need to rest them all so far away from the next game.

[Judas Souness]

Bollocks to that anyway! All four of them will surely be key members of the team on Tuesday night. Rafa isn't gonna go fannying about resting the likes of these against a team like Athletico Madrid, in the European Cup of all competitions. And its four days before West Brom come to our patch so not like we'll need to rest them all so far away from the next game.

Thats one way to look at it. I call it the Giles method. Go 2-0 up and then when the "game is won" make your changes.

For ****s sake tho, somebody give Diggler the NIGHT OFF.

Interesting to see how the plebs treat our boys this Tuesday night in the buildup.

Will we get credit for Chelsea and Pompey, or are we as good as our last game only??

[SUPERFAN]

Yes, I made that comment in haste after the Spurs game.

Still, I think we can escape by playing Torres and N'Gog- Keane, Riera, Alonso and Kuyt all MUST REST.

Babel, N'Gog, Gerrard, Torres....if there isnt a goal in there I dont know where there is!

In fact. Drop N'Gog and play Lucas, might take the strain off Steven.

fair enough,hope you're right...

[Judas Souness]

fair enough,hope you're right...

So do I. Sunday and Monday do not seem enuff for Riera, the dude looked jaded. So did Dirk......maybe we could cut a deal and just leave those two out, and play Keane and Alonso, but Mascherano has to get a rest then.

Damn I am glad I am not Rafa:eek:

[corcaigh]

a few need to rest alright but our CL squad doesnt help. surely el zhar and sami would play had they been selected for the squad. we need to field a strong side(because the alternatives are poor) and try to put the game to bed quicky.

[Molby Is a Legend]

So do I. Sunday and Monday do not seem enuff for Riera, the dude looked jaded. So did Dirk......maybe we could cut a deal and just leave those two out, and play Keane and Alonso, but Mascherano has to get a rest then.

Damn I am glad I am not Rafa:eek:

Christ im glad your not rafa with all this take of resting players :D:D:D:D

I say put out strongest team get us 3 in front then take off the players you feel need a rest.

We need three points simple as and i dont want to be going into the last two games needing them..

[Judas Souness]

Christ im glad your not rafa with all this take of resting players :D:D:D:D

I say put out strongest team get us 3 in front then take off the players you feel need a rest.

We need three points simple as and i dont want to be going into the last two games needing them..


Beat Atletico and we are home and dry, so I can see your logic, but this is a critical moment in our season, so a lot has to be got right on the night, and I cannot see changes not being made. I am almost sure now that Lucas will come in and so will Pennant, Babel and Torres.

In fact, I will put forward my final team for Atletico as being

-----------------------------REINA------------------------------------

-----Arbeloa------------CarrAgger------------------------------Aurelio

------Pennant--------Lucas----------Gerrard--------------------Babel

--------------------Keane-------------Torres--------------------------

No more supposition, I am sure thats how it will pan out!

[Molby Is a Legend]

Beat Atletico and we are home and dry, so I can see your logic, but this is a critical moment in our season, so a lot has to be got right on the night, and I cannot see changes not being made. I am almost sure now that Lucas will come in and so will Pennant, Babel and Torres.

In fact, I will put forward my final team for Atletico as being

-----------------------------REINA------------------------------------

-----Arbeloa------------CarrAgger------------------------------Aurelio

------Pennant--------Lucas----------Gerrard--------------------Babel

--------------------Keane-------------Torres--------------------------

No more supposition, I am sure thats how it will pan out!


NOOOOOOOOOO not Lucas :D:D:D:D

I see where your coming from all the same just a pity that El Zhar isnt available to get a start i reckon he could do a good job for us

[redabbey]

Atlético to travel to Liverpool on Monday and train at Anfield in the evening


The expedition of Atlético de Madrid will take off for Liverpool on Monday 3 November at 11:00 am. The charter flight will take off from T3 at Barajas Airport and is scheduled to land in England at 12:15 pm (local time). The players and the coaching staff will head directly to Hotel Marriot Liverpool, where the team will be staying.

After th habitual ‘siesta’, the team will travel to Anfield to get a read on the pitch on which they will take on the squad directed by Rafa BenÃ*tez. At 6:30 pm, Javier Aguirre and one footballer from the ‘rojiblancos’ will appear before the media, and at 7 pm their training session will begin.

For their part, Liverpool will train on Monday at 10:30 am, in Melwood, their normal training grounds, and Rafa BenÃ*tez, accompanied by a footballer from the ‘Reds’, will hold a press conference at 1:15 pm in Anfield.

http://www.clubatleticodemadrid.com/en/atleticoaldia/noticias.asp?id=3134

[corcaigh]

id play maschrano ahead of lucas, i don't think he is up to speed yet and needs more gametime. and we'll probably play 4-4-2 against West Brom and alonso is in pole position for the midfield spot alongside stevie g.

[Judas Souness]

id play maschrano ahead of lucas, i don't think he is up to speed yet and needs more gametime. and we'll probably play 4-4-2 against West Brom and alonso is in pole position for the midfield spot alongside stevie g.

Tony Barrett, who writes for the Liverpool Echo, says he saw Javier recently and that the lad is ABSOLUTELY shattered. Totally bushed.

I know Lucas is lightweight, but there is nothing light about the Pompey lads and he did okay in there.

I think he might be better suited to playing against the likes of Simao and pals than the WBA lot.

I know I am repeating myself, but if I could put Dirk, Keane, Riera, Alonso, Mascherano and Gerrard into a deep sleep from now till Saturday I would.:(

[LFCDave]

Bollocks to that anyway! All four of them will surely be key members of the team on Tuesday night. Rafa isn't gonna go fannying about resting the likes of these against a team like Athletico Madrid, in the European Cup of all competitions. And its four days before West Brom come to our patch so not like we'll need to rest them all so far away from the next game.

Have to agree, players should not be tired so early on in the season anyway!!!


LFC till i die.

[Judas Souness]

Have to agree, players should not be tired so early on in the season anyway!!!


LFC till i die.

4 games in 10 days will wear anyone down. Its no coincidence that two guys who do a lot of running were bushed on Saturday.

[arklowred]

i feel like Offaly in 1982,i stopped the 5 in a row;)

Fair play to you Superfan. Cant believe you stopped the rot:D

[LFCDave]

4 games in 10 days will wear anyone down. Its no coincidence that two guys who do a lot of running were bushed on Saturday.

Yeah yeah 4 games in 10 days would wear most people down but these players are professionals dont forget. In my days training i trained 5 out of 7 days for 2-3 hours each day every week and nobody was paying me 50k per week.

LFC till i die.

[edcarroll02]

Well lads i think that they're might just be something in this resting players on tuesday idea. I know its fairly early in the season and all but we've ended up having to play some very draining games already this season. We've had so many late comebacks that i can't keep track of them all and the only reasonably comfortable game we've had so far is the Derby. It could have something to do with why the team failed to recover after conceeding the goal against spurs at the weekend if the players are that tired.
I certainly think that Kuyt needs a break, he's been flat out for weeks now. Masch looks like he hasn't really recovered from all his travels for the international break and Riera's looking fairly tired too.
I'd go 4-4-2 with the usual defence (Aurelio back for Dossena), Gerrard and Alonso in the middle, Babel on the left Pennant/benni on the right and torres and keane up front.

[Rover 609]

i feel like Offaly in 1982,i stopped the 5 in a row;)

Im starting the v Spurs(h) thread now cos i want a piece of the pie;)

[mrpotatohead]

Im starting the v Spurs(h) thread now cos i want a piece of the pie;)

Haha -

[carpe diem]

Fernando Torres is winning his fitness race to be involved against Atletico Madrid on Tuesday night.
The Liverpool striker is battling to overcome a hamstring injury in time to play a part against his former club, when the Reds will be looking for the victory which could secure qualification into the knock-out stages of the competition.

Speaking to Liverpoolfc.tv this morning, manager Rafael Benitez said: "Fernando has been working really, really hard and doing good work with the physios.

"He trained yesterday and will train again today and then we will see. I would say he has a 70 per cent chance of featuring in the game.

"Atletico Madrid was his first club and now he is with Liverpool - two big clubs with lots of fans who love him, so this is massive for him."

looks like he's a certainty to play some part against madrid,glad to have him back.

[Judas Souness]

Fernando Torres is winning his fitness race to be involved against Atletico Madrid on Tuesday night.
The Liverpool striker is battling to overcome a hamstring injury in time to play a part against his former club, when the Reds will be looking for the victory which could secure qualification into the knock-out stages of the competition.

Speaking to Liverpoolfc.tv this morning, manager Rafael Benitez said: "Fernando has been working really, really hard and doing good work with the physios.

"He trained yesterday and will train again today and then we will see. I would say he has a 70 per cent chance of featuring in the game.

"Atletico Madrid was his first club and now he is with Liverpool - two big clubs with lots of fans who love him, so this is massive for him."

looks like he's a certainty to play some part against madrid,glad to have him back.

Thats interesting, now we know he was not fit at all for Spurs. Wonder what the "experts" will say. Rafa did the right thing. Leave him out. There are NO MORE International competitive games till February. Let him get fit, then unleash him.

In the mean time........http://www.thisisanfield.com/news/2008/11/torres-%E2%80%9C70%E2%80%9D-to-fitness/

Liverpool boss Rafael Benitez says that striker Fernando Torres has a 70% chance of playing in Tuesday night’s Champions League clash against his former club, Athletico Madrid at Anfield.

So he was obviously banjaxed for the last while.

[cousin_borat]

Hopefully Torres will be rested, definitely more important to have him back in the League.

[fernsred]

Rafa should give him the last half hour and then unleash him Saturday.

[KELMG]

I can see Torres being rested for this one also.Or maybe he`ll get the last 20minutes since it is Athletico and all.:)

Either way we need to win this one.Can`t afford another blow to the confidence after that bloody spurs match!:mad:

Im hoping for a nice 2-0...Fernando to get on the sheet of course.:D

[fernsred]

Hope they play as well as Saturday but put the ball in the net obviously.

[reder]

I hope Torres doesnt get sentimental tonight and forces himself to play. Its not a must win CL game and a few days extra rest on that type of injury will do no harm.

[carpe diem]

lots of articles flying around this morning,spotted this one on teamtalk,
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,7555_4453511,00.html
i wouldnt risk torres,the team we used in the away game is good enough to beat madrid tonight,maybe with the inclusion of kuyt and aurelio for benni and dossena,although i think we'll see torres at some stage as he missed the first game,maybe last 10-15 minutes.

[Pimboli]

Hope you are right Reder but I fear that's exactly what will happen

He will declare himself fit I have no doubt at all. Remember Carra against the bitters when he declared himself fit to play them and had a mare and thats a team we play every season, there is no telling when or if Liverpool will face Atletico again in a competitive match so its hard to believe he wont try and play.

That said if withdrew himself from this game Id have even more respect for him than I do now as that would hurt him personally to do it putting Liverpool first but you really cant blame him if he chances his arm to play. If he gets injuried fans will be annoyed with him but they wont take a pop at him as they will accept his reasons for playing while not fully fit. Beside on paper anyway we shouldnt need him for the 7 games we have coming up against the so called 'smaller teams'.

[dking]

I hope Torres doesnt get sentimental tonight and forces himself to play. Its not a must win CL game and a few days extra rest on that type of injury will do no harm.


this lad took himself off in a CL semi final cause he felt a twinge ,
I think he is far too professional for sentiment .
He's not like the rest of us ,he's superhuman :)
Having said that I wont be surprised to see him on the pitch at some stage .

[novasteve]

I hate Simao! Grrrr.

Just had to get that off my chest.

[mypost]

I hope Torres doesnt get sentimental tonight and forces himself to play. Its not a must win CL game and a few days extra rest on that type of injury will do no harm.

He's either fit to play or not.

This injury was only meant to keep him out for 3 games, but has already kept him out for 5, and we're still worried about playing him. :confused:

He's going to have to play at some point, and I think he will, probably not for the full game though.

[D-Red]

He's going to have to play at some point, and I think he will, probably not for the full game though.

Nor for the right reasons. Reder was right, He'll end up playing in this game because he wants to, not because he ought to

Rafa will decide whether he starts or not but it will be based on what torres is telling Rafa and the physios, and Torres will want to play big time.

Ideally it's best to rest him in this one but it won't happen

[dking]

Rafa will decide whether he starts or not but it will be based on what torres is telling Rafa and the physios, and Torres will want to play big time.



Rafa said yesterday he will let the player decide , so the physios have obviously said he is ok .

[GaryMc]

I would leave him on the bench. Bring him on with 20 to go. I remember him starting against Arsenal last season at Anfield and he did not look fit, he was taken off at HT and was out for another few games.

[edcarroll02]

I hate Simao! Grrrr.

Just had to get that off my chest.

Any particular reason for this or is it just a general hatred?

[edcarroll02]

I don't know how true this is but i do remember reading somewhere that Torres was terribly upset when he came off during the spain game because he couldn't understand why he kept getting injured. If that is true then i can't see him rushing back to play and possibly injuring himself again coming into a string of games that he will fancy he can probably score a lot of goals in. But i do understand that he will really want to be playing against Athletico but i think if he plays it will only be if he feels he's ready for it.

[dazzlermac]

Back on track tonight cmon the pool 2 nil..torres injury time second.....march on

[Judas Souness]

Back on track tonight cmon the pool 2 nil..torres injury time second.....march on

Sweet Jesus..............:eek::eek:

[dazzlermac]

Sweet Jesus..............:eek::eek:

explain

[peterk]

I hope Torres only comes back when 100% ready.

Just as an aside - I've decided not to watch RTE build-up tonight as they'll no doubt criticise Liverpool and Rafa without any reality-based arguments. Just going to watch the 90mins! I'm a bit bored so I feel like protesting about something!

[dazzlermac]

I hope Torres only comes back when 100% ready.

Just as an aside - I've decided not to watch RTE build-up tonight as they'll no doubt criticise Liverpool and Rafa without any reality-based arguments. Just going to watch the 90mins! I'm a bit bored so I feel like protesting about something!

know how u feel hope souness is on cause at least he will talk some sense :D

[south]

torres is not in the squad

The Liverpool team in full: Reina, Arbeloa, Aurelio, Carragher, Agger, Mascherano, Alonso, Gerrard, Riera, Kuyt, Keane. Subs: Cavalieri, Dossena, Benayoun, Babel, Lucas, Ngog, Degen.

[carpe diem]

yeah i thought those 2 changes would be made from the away game in madrid aurelio and kuyt,but am surprised and happy torres will have an extra few days regaining fitness for an assault on our league campaign,must be disappointing for the lad but the team comes first always.

[peterk]

torres is not in the squad

The Liverpool team in full: Reina, Arbeloa, Aurelio, Carragher, Agger, Mascherano, Alonso, Gerrard, Riera, Kuyt, Keane. Subs: Cavalieri, Dossena, Benayoun, Babel, Lucas, Ngog, Degen.

Hope Robbie has a good game tonight - he needs a performance and a couple of goals

[south]

well i suppose the lads fitness has to come first. thats a strong enough team to be beating them at home. lets hope keane can pop up with a goal or two to kickstart his season..it wouldn't be bad if he's playing anyway good and left on for the full 90min

[Niall]

Think it's for the best rather he comes back fully ready. Wonder if Spain have a game a week on Wednesday. Be interesting to see if Rafa releases him so soon.

[Monty]

Have a feeling Riera will score tonight....

[kazzermac1]

hopefully the lads can 4get about last sat and bounce back with a good win
hoping robbie has a good game

[fernsred]

See what mighty mouth Dunphy has to say now..

[carpe diem]

oh god the got that spice boy look about them again lol

[peterk]

Be great to see Riera score again. If Kuyt and Riera can get 20-30 goals between them we'll be flying. Robbie and Stevie get double figures and Torres gets a go at it too....cause we're not scoring a lot of goals these days...lowest in the top 6 with only 16 goals.

[carpe diem]

wow aguero out again,he got their 2 goals at the weekend,surprised at that????

[peterk]

See what mighty mouth Dunphy has to say now..

No! Don't watch it! You'll feel angrier by the minute!

[fernsred]

Bad enough Dunphy, now Souness is getting stuck in

[Judas Souness]

Bad enough Dunphy, now Souness is getting stuck in

Thats right Souness, Liverpool attacked so much in the old days they passed the ball back 30 times in 10 mins vs Arsenal and still lost 0-2. These guys have the memories of disadvantaged fleas.:mad:

I love the way Torres is not playing, and then they say Liverpool dont have creative players.

Keane, Kuyt, Torres, Gerrard, Riera...plenty of talent.

Then they chime in and say Riera is holding back.:confused:

Then Dunphy chimes in and says that Rieras job was to stop Boswinga and Kuyts was to stop Cole. I mean, HELLO, SORRRRRY, but it WORKED and CHELSEA LOST. Way to gloss over that fact.

And Graham, the Chelsea game was 8 days ago. Not 2 weeks.:mad:



Somehow, Scolaris method of playing, and Benitez method of stopping him, is all a black mark against Rafa.

Its piss poor, and the taxpayer should get a rebate for this crap.

[mypost]

Just as an aside - I've decided not to watch RTE build-up tonight as they'll no doubt criticise Liverpool and Rafa without any reality-based arguments. Just going to watch the 90mins! I'm a bit bored so I feel like protesting about something!

The real build up starts on ITV in 5 minutes.

At least TV3 have the Tuesday night games here next season.

[peterk]

I'm getting angry just reading the posts!! Arrggghh! Irrelevant, senile failures the lot of them!

[carpe diem]

lads the thread is about the match,theres another thread set up about the rte analysis

[Judas Souness]

Apparently, per Graham Souness, Drogba is Chelseas main main.

If there was ever a definiton of a physically imposing talented DONKEY, Drogba would be that man.

John now trying to tell us why Lampard is as good as Gerrard, without offending anyone. Priceless.:p:p

Souness says that Lampard is not trustworthy under a 4-4-2. Then he says that the Mourinho system is the same as the one as they play now.:confused: Make your mind up Graham.

Jaysus its dreadful.

[Judas Souness]

lads the thread is about the match,theres another thread set up about the rte analysis

Alrighty then.:cool:

[carpe diem]

Alrighty then.:cool:

hehe no offence like, COME ON THE REDMEN !!!!!

[Judas Souness]

explain

TORRES-INJURY-TIME!!!!!:eek:

[carpe diem]

any of the lads from here over there tonight?

[galway-red]

come on you Redmen

[denashpot]

come on the pool!!!!!

[Judas Souness]

No Aguero...but Heitinga is in. Oooh. Garcia and Pongo on the Subs bench.

Dont understand the Atleti set up.

Dont understand that neither of Riera, Kuyt, Alonso or Masch got the night off.

Pity Torres is out.

Here we go.........

Corner..............Keane misses sitter and is injured. Houghton says Penno. Its not. Agger caught knapping.....Liverpool clear. I'll stop now....**** me Simao handled that and the ref let it go!!!

[fernsred]

Come on reds

[noodge74]

lets put this group to bed and get stuck right into our premier league challenge!

[paddypower111]

an hour to go jesus let an hour go quick . another full house at anfield torres hopefully starting 3 0 win what more could i ask 4 on a tuesday can,t wait come on lol

[Judas Souness]

OMG Ollalla Torres...http://blog.menupirate.com/images/drooling_homer.png

[carpe diem]

the boys are bouncing well http://emoticons4u.com/crazy/071.gif good atmosphere

[Judas Souness]

Passing is shite.

[shibox]

OMG Ollalla Torres...http://blog.menupirate.com/images/drooling_homer.png

Man kisses left right and centre. Wish i was a pro footballer!!

[fernsred]

Agger is looking good

[Judas Souness]

What is Darragh Maloney saying, Agger was nowhere near leaving during the Summer, corner Liverpool, Atleti hoof it clear.

[carpe diem]

Agger is looking good

is the something you want to tell us fernsred???? lol j/k

[Judas Souness]

Keane clattered. Should have been a booking. Agger can be the most elegant CB when he is doing his thing. Arbeloa, more shite passing.

[carpe diem]

unlucky robbie,good effort !

[shibox]

robbies finally had a shot on goal

[Judas Souness]

Oh man what a fecking pass from Alonso, Keane tried it...just wide.

[Judas Souness]

Riera starting to motor a bit now. We need a goal though. The way that Riera can stop-start guys is always a threat. Oh LIV-POOl WE LOVE YOU go the crowd!

[Judas Souness]

Thats 3 times Aurelio has tried to get wide. His touch let him down tho. Good to see him at least trying. Well done.

[fernsred]

is the something you want to tell us fernsred???? lol j/k

HaHa Carpe - nice one. Better not let the missus see this

[Judas Souness]

Corner Atleti, Ray speaks of the danger of failing to mark the post, Simao delivery, Forlan glanced it, Liverpool burst, here comes Tommy Mash, Alonso....HANDBALL!! REF SAYS NO! Feck..he is giving us nothing. Mash is down, Atleti plays on and Simao over the top

The ref is screwing us here, no penalty and no stop in play for Mash. And they nearly score.

Ref is having a HOWLER. Not quite Graham Poll, but its getting there.

[fernsred]

Come on StevieG , get into the game

[shibox]

I fancy robbie (to score that is, dont be getting any ideas fernsred)

[Judas Souness]

Jesus we really miss Torres. Simao gets crunched by Jamie. Off the ball. Ha Ha.

[fernsred]

You wouldn't be long getting a reputation around here would you ?

[Judas Souness]

Come on StevieG , get into the game

Someone is missing from the midfield. I dont know who, but someone is fast asleep.

[carpe diem]

I fancy robbie (to score that is, dont be getting any ideas fernsred)

lmao,im so sorry fernsred,im giving you a bad name,not that theres anything wrong with that http://emoticons4u.com/happy/028.gif

[Judas Souness]

Great stuff, Riera arriving in from the left, wellys it wide, but Alonso know with some quality balls.

[fernsred]

lmao,im so sorry fernsred,im giving you a bad name,not that theres anything wrong with that http://emoticons4u.com/happy/028.gif

No bother man - cracks good. Need a pool goal though to make this match more enjoyable!

[Judas Souness]

Dirk tracks back and robs the Atleti player and Maloney goes "move breaks down"...he either sucks as a commentator or he is a hayta.

[Judas Souness]

Ball breaking to the wrong player all the time. It falls to Alonso when you need Mascherano. It falls to Mash when you need Alonso. Keane wont cross when there are players in, and he does cross when there is nobody there. WTF!!!!

[Judas Souness]

Marseille 1 up against PSV in the Velodrome. Thats good. If it stays that way then Liverpool will be 3 and 4 clear of the two lowest teams even if we lose tonight.

Riera, his touch all of a sudden is letting him down.

[carpe diem]

passings gone to sh*t tonight,come on marseille 1 up enall,lets go for the jugular and bury um!!!http://emoticons4u.com/violent/sterb073.gif

[fernsred]

****ing hell Robbie!!!

[south]

keane should of down better there.

[Judas Souness]

Ahhhh Robbie!!!! Jaysus!!! That Should Have Been In!!! Footballing Gods Are Not Pleased!!!!!!!

[Judas Souness]

We miss Torres in these situations.

[Fowler's God]

In fairness giving Franco a bit of credit he made himself big and it was a good save of sorts.

[Judas Souness]

Oh No!

[Judas Souness]

Carra, Aurelio....fast asleep.

[A-Train]

F**k it all over them!

[Fowler's God]

Maxi Rodriguez is a class player...wish we had him.

[fernsred]

This is bad. Need a major roasting at half time.

[carpe diem]

bollox to that anyway http://emoticons4u.com/sad/1361.gif

[south]

my god didn't he finish that well. i think we're playing well enough to come back a win this..crowd starting to get behind the team now

[Judas Souness]

Mini Crisis now. Atleti have done shag all tonight and scored, the only real chance they had came from a break off a definite Liverpool penalty. Apart from that we have been all over them. Maloney is a bona fide Hater.

[gav003]

have to say that was a great counter- the lads have a big test in front of them now!

[fernsred]

Had a few good moments but overall the passing and ball retention is crap.

[paddypower111]

have to say it was some goal but 4 the wrong side come on pls god get to 1 1 at half time why isint torres playing????????

[carpe diem]

time to unleash the babel at half time http://emoticons4u.com/evil/105.gif

[Judas Souness]

In fairness, we should have had a penalty, if not two of them. Free Kick to us.

[Judas Souness]

Gerrard shooting from the middle of NOWHERE. Jaysus, pick a pass son!

[Judas Souness]

Dirk...wasteful. Wasteful wasteful wasteful.

[carpe diem]

rafa needs to sort them out at half time,not playing well at all,think it will be all one way traffic after the break though.

[Yoko]

FFS Carra concentrate!

God we look terrible tonight lads. Only player with any composure is Xabi... trying to hit RObbie with long balls is only gonna end one way...

[Anthony_1892]

like the spurs game

all over em and they get the fecking goal

[Judas Souness]

Atleti will doubtless look to counter the shit out of us 2nd half, the problem now is that Gerrard has decided to have an off night, we need sustained pressure, Arbeloa and Kuyt, two old favourites, will come in for roastings from Aymo except this time they deserve it. Same as with Spurs, it could be 4 nothing instead, they score. If Babel comes on it has to be for Mascherano and NOT KEANE.

[shibox]

time to go 442 methinks

[carpe diem]

If Babel comes on it has to be for Mascherano and NOT KEANE.

+1

[Monty]

Should've had a penalty... Keane should of scored... We have to be better in possesion in the second half, simple as. Not over yet, I can see a couple of more goals in this game, hopefully in the Kop end.

[Bren100]

Masch was as much to blame for ball watching as Arulio ... The scorer ran right past Masch on his way towards the box??? Shocking tracking back.

[fernsred]

+1

+2

[Judas Souness]

Thats right Eamonn, winning the prem league because we beat Chelsea and Man United., once again, these ****s pick out the bad only.

[carpe diem]

if they sort out their passing then we'll get a result imo not the rte's opinion,my opinion.

[paddypower111]

ht not listening to muppits on rte the only person i like listening to is phil thommson cause atleast he,s a true red and would be just a pissed of as i am now . i think wem,ll win it yet

[mypost]

What is Darragh Maloney saying, Agger was nowhere near leaving during the Summer.

Maloney goes "move breaks down"...he either sucks as a commentator or he is a hayta. Maloney is a bona fide Hater.

Clue: RTE.

Bego on ITV stressing that Saturday's defeat hasn't hurt morale. :) Probably not, but on RTE, it's more likely to be a "disaster". :rolleyes:

Tyldesley not on tonight. :confused:

[chopper84]

god i hate dunphy!!! kuyt off asap,wanna see babel on very soon

[Yoko]

Had to turn RTE off.. Ray Houghton criticising everything, wanted to throw something through the telly

[Judas Souness]

If Kuyt comes off that allows them to break too fast. Leave him where he is.

Bring Babel on for Mascherano. Tell Gerrard to drop back and help Alonso. If we are still 1-0 down when push comes to shove, drop Arbeloa and bring on Benayoun.

[carpe diem]

id bring degan in for arbeloa,what have we got to lose,arbeloa not at the races tonight either.

[Judas Souness]

Graham "Scolari Make Liverpool Look Good".

I never thought I would hear it said, but it has been.

[carpe diem]

COME ON LIVERPOOL !!!!! Lets turn this game around !!!

[Fowler's God]

I agree Carpe Diem, was just about to mention would he be worth a punt bringing him on for Arbeloa? Add more wing play down the right as much as we do down the left.

[fernsred]

Come on reds 45 minutes to qualify for knock out stage. Come on.

[Judas Souness]

Come on now...2 goals you lot! and Dont let Atleti in!

I think the lads are letting Rafa down.

[carpe diem]

i would do fernandos bird http://emoticons4u.com/love/new/love-smiley-081.gif

[Judas Souness]

Same old problem. Ball breaks to the wrong guy. Needed Keane there and not Mascherano. Was just thinking that, oddly, Jermaine Pennis might be worth a look later on.

[Judas Souness]

i would do fernandos bird http://emoticons4u.com/love/new/love-smiley-081.gif

Right now I would just settle for 2 goals for us. I mean that.

[shibox]

i would do fernandos bird http://emoticons4u.com/love/new/love-smiley-081.gif


Well I wouldn't kick her outta the bed for eating taytos, but at the same time, I wasn't overly impressed.

[fernsred]

+1

i would do fernandos bird http://emoticons4u.com/love/new/love-smiley-081.gif

So would i Carpe (Does that make amends for earlier)

[Anthony_1892]

i would do fernandos bird http://emoticons4u.com/love/new/love-smiley-081.gif

she looks like a bloke

very manly

[Judas Souness]

FOR FECKS SAKES...Pernea handled that on the edge of the box and the ref does NOTHING! JAYSUS! DOES HE KNOW THE RULES! ****!

[shibox]

c'mon robbie, keep after the ball, keep yer hands down.

[Judas Souness]

she looks like a bloke

very manly

Well Fernando is a bit female, and NO PENALTY AGAIN......so get in the middle and have yourself a good time...."he couldnt see it" chirps Ray.

[A-Train]

Shocking that is

[fermoyred80]

Play The Feckin Whistle

[fernsred]

Deffo Peno - have a bad feeling now.

[carpe diem]

So would i Carpe (Does that make amends for earlier)

your off the hook mate,you can sleep easy tonight http://emoticons4u.com/happy/042.gif

[Judas Souness]

Maloney criticising Alonso for refusing to play the ball to Arbeloa, who was in an offside position.

[carpe diem]

what is up with captain marvellous tonight,come on stevie !!!!

[shibox]

yeah ray it was a corner

[Judas Souness]

That was a corner. No penalties and no corners. The ref has blown it.

[carpe diem]

the ref is,and excuse my french ,a cnut !!!!!

[Anthony_1892]

refs an athletico player in dusguise

[Judas Souness]

Agger close.

Either will will score or they will, but there is another goal left in this for sure. Cant see it ending 1-0.

[fernsred]

Agger ! Ooooohh

[gang of gin]

Had to turn RTE off.. Ray Houghton criticising everything, wanted to throw something through the telly


There's much to criticise. I think looking at the reality of things will prove unbiased opinions on his behalf, although I do a lot of the time think he's a little sniping **** in his half-baked assertions. He's essentially a cretin these times. But what wants to make me throw something at the telly is how Robbie ****ing Keane was undertaking to exercise all his energies chasing the ref at a decision that was never gonna be given instead of chasing it down. Stank of a desperate striker. 20 million quid. I've really lost any patience I've had with him.

[noodge74]

this is lookin like tottenham game all over again!

[Judas Souness]

Get Mash out of there, he is waaaay off the pace. Babel time. We need to get Babel in before they get Aguero and LG/SMP on.

[Judas Souness]

Chelsea being destroyed. So thats something.

[Anthony_1892]

least babel on

[Judas Souness]

You can see why Benitez wanted Simao.

No penalty. But its not lost on me that Mascherano was involved.

Here comes Babel- for RIERA. hmmm.

[fernsred]

****s sake Rafa

[gang of gin]

The win against Chelsea started all this. Oh, of course, we'd won the league already!

[Judas Souness]

Agger...what the **** is AGGER doing there. Its all over the shop!

[Bren100]

Is the Dagger playing up front tonight? ;o)

[Judas Souness]

****s sake Rafa

Well it might have been better to leave Riera on but I thought he was jaded.

2-0 in the Vello.

Gerrard shooting when there are better things on.

At least Marseille have to come here and look for something.

[Anthony_1892]

its like liverpool v benfica again

[Judas Souness]

Is the Dagger playing up front tonight? ;o)

Yeah, on his own too it seems.:(

[Judas Souness]

Ref breaks up our advantage to book Maniche.

[Judas Souness]

its like liverpool v benfica again

Or Marseille.

[Judas Souness]

Darra maloney you are a disgrace...the way he gloats when the move breaks down is a vicious thing.

[Judas Souness]

Here comes Aguero. This could backfire on them with any luck.

We too make a change....

Gerrard....****s sake. Not our night.

[carpe diem]

nice move,unlucky stevie

[Anthony_1892]

ahh jasus

[Fowler's God]

Houghton is a gloom merchant..Maloney is his little sidekick....Unlucky by Gerrard there..Egg-nog is on now for Keane...

[Judas Souness]

Forlan off, Kun Aguero on.

Keane off. NGog on.

So its as you were.

[fermoyred80]

?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????ngog

[carpe diem]

ngog,clutching at straws?

[Yoko]

beggars belief

[fernsred]

I can't believe he's taking Robbie off when we are losing 1-0 !!

[Judas Souness]

Houghton is a gloom merchant..Maloney is his little sidekick....Unlucky by Gerrard there..Egg-nog is on now for Keane...

We need, Vodka or Poitin. Not Egg Nogg.

Marseille are going to beat PSV.

We need the draw now to keep it in the balance for us.

[Judas Souness]

Babel, you are NOT, repeat NOT a left back so dont go thinking you is.

[leixlip kopite]

r we going 2 get any luck here 2nite?

[carpe diem]

we'll get the equalizer,i have every faith.

[Anthony_1892]

this is some response NOT to spurs

[Yoko]

When we've been in this position before El Zhar has gotten us out of it. Cept he's not in our Euro squad

[fermoyred80]

its like liverpool v benfica again
just thinking the same myself

[Judas Souness]

ngog,clutching at straws?

Smacks of desperation, but Gog is a good bit taller and Keane has won very little in the air tonight.

[Anthony_1892]

i want to fcuking scream

jesus

[Anthony_1892]

now lucas ohh sweet jesus

[Judas Souness]

Luke Ass????

[Yoko]

Lucas... where's benny???

[leixlip kopite]

come lucas or any1 4 that matter

[JOE]

Dissapointed with the amount of times we made the wrong decisions tonight...Gerrard took one too many unnecessary shots when better options were on...I've a feeling Augero will catch us on the break...

[carpe diem]

the equalizer is coming lads,keep the faith !!!! 11 mins plus stoppage time,plenty !!!!

[Judas Souness]

**** off...Maloney is desperate for us to get nothing here tonight. Absolutely desperate he is for us to fail. He must have been ass raped by Liverpool fans in school. Penalty off Carragher, never. Not even comparable to the ones we should have got.

[JOE]

Lucas... where's benny???
Thinking the same thing...

[Judas Souness]

Corner Come On!!!!!!!!

[leixlip kopite]

fancy gerrard 2 score. seems like a man possessed!

[carpe diem]

come on stevie,a bit of magic mate !!!

[Judas Souness]

Another corner.

[gang of gin]

I'm pretty disappointed in the wastrels Liverpool have been buying for a long time now. And I know every team, even really good teams, have their duds, but we are - for any top 4 regarded team - the most consistent dud buyer for quite a while. Our bench tonight is risible. The despairing comments just said it all.

[shibox]

fancy gerrard 2 score. seems like a man possessed!

possessed by gremlins tonite id say

[leixlip kopite]

wat a miss!

[Judas Souness]

Wide from Agger. Not our nite lads.

[gang of gin]

Torres is nearly in tears...

[Judas Souness]

I think Agger dislocated his finger.

[Yoko]

Ouch!!! Euuuwww

[gang of gin]

Darragh Moloney quotes "(They're) gonna have to pop that back in I'd say.."

Surely he was referring to Ray Houghton's cock in his sneering ass.

[Judas Souness]

How The **** Was That A Free!! Babel Got It Simple!!!!

[carpe diem]

unlucky jamie

[leixlip kopite]

great effort carra

[Judas Souness]

Deco sent off inn Rome, Chelsea 3-1 down. At least we wont be as badly mocked as Chelsea.

[Yoko]

at least this isn't fatal to our chances lads, it's in our own hands...

[Judas Souness]

I had a dream last night that our next game would be 1-1. Thats what I am counting on now,.

[fermoyred80]

Deco sent off inn Rome, Chelsea 3-1 down. At least we wont be as badly mocked as Chelsea.

who gives a sh** its the liverpool game we care bout

[fernsred]

As bad and all as we have played we would have still won if we were not so wasteful in front of goal - Agger (2), StevieG and Robbie all should have scored not to mention the penalty shouts.

[leixlip kopite]

have 2 listen 2 asshole humpty dunphy now bout how shit we were.

[Judas Souness]

Maloney "Kuyt missed the target"......it was a very hard chance....shutup...

[fernsred]

have 2 listen 2 asshole humpty dunphy now bout how shit we were.

No way can't do that - bedtime i think.

[Yoko]

Officials have done us no favours tonight

[Judas Souness]

Liverpool free kick.....we need to get this up there now 2 mins left.

[shibox]

well fcuk me!!

[fernsred]

Peno

[Yoko]

Hang on...

[Judas Souness]

Given!!!!!!

[carpe diem]

please score

[Judas Souness]

We Need This For My Dream!!!!!

[shibox]

pressure

[rev]

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D :D:D Yesssssss!!!!!!!! Get in there Stevie

[Yoko]

Yesssssssssssss

[Judas Souness]

Theres My Dream Baby!!!!!!

[fernsred]

Yesssssssss

[leixlip kopite]

what an escape. deserved a draw at least.

[gang of gin]

have 2 listen 2 asshole humpty dunphy now bout how shit we were.


Well, it's ridiculous to vent on sconers like them. A comment by one punter above is what matters. What they say will be what we all know in our hearts anyway, which is, we were awful and a bad decision ultimately got us off the hook. Never want to see a display like this again. Kept going though. Taht is one good thing that stands to Liverpool.

[Judas Souness]

No way can't do that - bedtime i think.

I need a shower. I stink. No way I can go to bed in this mess!!!!

[shibox]

ref has lost the plot

[carpe diem]

the equalizer is coming lads,keep the faith !!!! 11 mins plus stoppage time,plenty !!!!

lmao,i told ya lads !!!!!! get in there.

[Judas Souness]

Whistle Sounds Point A Piece Now Get Ready To Laugh At Scum!!!!