Marseille vs Liverpool (16/09/08)

[redeagle]

Great result saturday, obviously I hope we build on from this and start putting some good performances together with good results.

1 nil to pool, torres.

[D-Red]

I think we'll win too. 2-1 to Liverpool and keane to get off the mark

[Ray]

:)Great result saturday, obviously I hope we build on from this and start putting some good performances together with good results.

1 nil to pool, torres.


I think we'll fire 3 or 4 past these... Get off to a flyer. I'd really love to see Robbie break his duck.

Come on lads.:):):):)

[mrpotatohead]

According to the official site, Aurelio did not travel because of a calf injury, but everyone else seems there! (bar Sami of course!)
Masch has travelled, so hopefully his injury mightnt be too bad. I have a feeling Lucas may start instead of him either anyways...just my gut feeling.

Liverpool squad: Reina, Cavalieri, Arbeloa, Degen, Carragher, Skrtel, Agger, Dossena, Mascherano, Alonso, Gerrard, Benayoun, Babel, Lucas, Riera, Kuyt, Torres, Keane.

[jaza]

and keane to get off the mark

ya have to be right eventually :D

[D-Red]

ya have to be right eventually :D

Yeah, I keep saying he's going to score in the next game. Maybe I should shut up and his luck might change :D

[Ray]

Yeah, I keep saying he's going to score in the next game. Maybe I should shut up and his luck might change :D


Or say hes never going to score? He might get a hat-trick then. lol:D

[carpe diem]

marseille drew 1-1 away from home at the weekend and are only 2 points off lyon,dont think it will be a formality but think we have the momentum now to get the win,a 2-0 victory will do nicely.

[Rover 609]

id be more than happy to avoid defeat,confidence sky high at the moment cant see us losing,but cant be complacent.

[dazzlermac]

a positive result would really have the lads tails up:)cmon the pool

[redchariot]

Marseille are not the team they used to be; neither is the French League in general. Can't see why we couldn't get 3 points out of this match

[MrsStevieG]

Yeah, I keep saying he's going to score in the next game. Maybe I should shut up and his luck might change :D

Yeah I think you are putting the moan on him D red!!:D. You and me both, I keep saying the same thing. Ah we are all dying for him to get a goal, as he is himself I'm sure!. It'll come don't you worry, and then there'll be no stopping him;)

Marseille tommorrow night- feeling very confident after Saturday's great win obviously, and am looking forward to see if they can put in a similar performance. I hope so.
We should get the win anyway.

[mypost]

Tough game so Benitez will probably look for a 0-0 and a point. He'll be happy with that.

[carpe diem]

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/features/stats/FS13488080915-1532.htm

just a few stats,makes interesting reading especially the dirk kuyt bit.

[Ray]

Marseille are not the team they used to be; neither is the French League in general. Can't see why we couldn't get 3 points out of this match

Yoyr dead right pal. Im expecting us to bang in a few against these.:D

[NomadicRed]

Marseille are not the team they used to be; neither is the French League in general. Can't see why we couldn't get 3 points out of this match

I agree. And especially after Saturday's performance I think we'll definitely have the drive and confidence to bag all three points.

[mypost]

Both sides are flying in the leagues at the moment, and it will be an intimidating atmosphere. Would be happy to take a point, and I reckon Rafa will as well.

[SignoraFrasi]

i think a draw would be a decent result.avoid defeat away from home and then win the home games.in saying that we have the ability to go and win if we go there with an attacking mentality.unlikely we will though in the first away game of the group in my view

[mypost]

We knocked Marseille out of the CL last season, Marseille knocked us out of Europe completely 4 years ago. With both sides in form, the game tonight is very hard to call, so I'll sit on the fence and settle for a point.

[mrpotatohead]

I think a draw wouldnt be a disaster, but really hope we are ballsy enough to play for the win. Might be a few stiff legs after all the running around on Saturday, but we should be good enough to win here. So I'm gonna go for a 1 or 2-0 result to the reds.

[Garrett]

Hi

Like many of you, I think we can win this one (particularly on the back of such an excellent performance on Saturday) .... I'm expecting 2-0 myself.

[Fowler's God]

A good performance coupled with a win would be exactly what we need after the momentum gained during the win over our bitterest rivals.

[Ray]

A good performance coupled with a win would be exactly what we need after the momentum gained during the win over our bitterest rivals.


Exactly. we are well capable of doing Marseille 2night. I think we'll trash em 4-0/ 5-0......

Come on the pool:):):)

[mrpotatohead]

Thinking about it a bit more, probably should really be hoping for a win, seen as PSV and Athletico away are maybe tougher games on paper. So 3 points here could be vital in the shake up of things.

[Ray]

Thinking about it a bit more, probably should really be hoping for a win, seen as PSV and Athletico away are maybe tougher games on paper. So 3 points here could be vital in the shake up of things.

Exactly, No reason why we cant come away from here with 3points:)

[fitzpatrickgary]

quietly confidient of 3 points here cant see the same scoreline as last season
more like a 1 nil win

[Ray]

It should be a good match tonight lads... I'll have a couple of scoops watching it as im off tomorrow..... whoooo aaaaah.

[mrpotatohead]

I can see Rafa giving Agger a start tonight, especially with all these rumours about his contract, wanting more games, etc...

http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/09/16/Prem-Agger-future/

Get your head down and work boy!! I dont mean to be harsh, but there has been 6 games this season, started 1 (?) and looked a bit shakey, Hyypia, then Skertal came in and has been immense since. Dont go packing your bags yet kiddo....its only early days! After missing all of last season I can understand he just wants to play.

[D-Red]

Get your head down and work boy!! I dont mean to be harsh, but there has been 6 games this season, started 1 (?) and looked a bit shakey, Hyypia, then Skertal came in and has been immense since. Dont go packing your bags yet kiddo....its only early days! After missing all of last season I can understand he just wants to play.

Well said mate! I hope this all settles down. I'd hate to see Danny leaving.

Hope it doesn't come to that

[Ray]

Any news on the teams for 2nite lads?????

[D-Red]

Any news on the teams for 2nite lads?????

Early team news from SSN:

Benitez is expected to be buoyed by the return captain Steven Gerrard and star striker Fernando Torres to his starting line-up.

Gerrard (groin surgery) came on for the final 22 minutes against United at the weekend, while Torres (hamstring) remained on the substitutes' bench, but the pair - who both scored in the trip to Marseille last season - are expected to start.

Left-back Fabio Aurelio has a calf problem and has not travelled, which is likely to mean a return to the starting line-up for Andrea Dossena, while winger Ryan Babel could also feature from kick-off after a match-winning substitute appearance against United.

Positive

Javier Mascherano is fit, despite hobbling off with cramp on Saturday, while centre-back Sami Hyypia has not been named in Benitez's 25-man European squad and that could see Daniel Agger, who is keen to secure a new contract, replace Martin Skrtel.

Marseille will be eager to avenge last term's home hammering, which cost Erik Gerets' men a place in the knock-out stages, and will be hoping for positive performances from the likes of midfielder Mathieu Valbuena and striker Mamadou Niang.

Valbuena scored the goal which stunned Anfield in Marseille's 1-0 away victory last season, while Niang is confident the Reds can again be beaten.

Benoit Cheyrou, brother of former Liverpool player Bruno, is also likely to be included in Gerets' first XI, while another ex-Red, Boudewijn Zenden, could be on the bench.

[Ray]

Early team news from SSN:

Benitez is expected to be buoyed by the return captain Steven Gerrard and star striker Fernando Torres to his starting line-up.

Gerrard (groin surgery) came on for the final 22 minutes against United at the weekend, while Torres (hamstring) remained on the substitutes' bench, but the pair - who both scored in the trip to Marseille last season - are expected to start.

Left-back Fabio Aurelio has a calf problem and has not travelled, which is likely to mean a return to the starting line-up for Andrea Dossena, while winger Ryan Babel could also feature from kick-off after a match-winning substitute appearance against United.

Positive

Javier Mascherano is fit, despite hobbling off with cramp on Saturday, while centre-back Sami Hyypia has not been named in Benitez's 25-man European squad and that could see Daniel Agger, who is keen to secure a new contract, replace Martin Skrtel.

Marseille will be eager to avenge last term's home hammering, which cost Erik Gerets' men a place in the knock-out stages, and will be hoping for positive performances from the likes of midfielder Mathieu Valbuena and striker Mamadou Niang.

Valbuena scored the goal which stunned Anfield in Marseille's 1-0 away victory last season, while Niang is confident the Reds can again be beaten.

Benoit Cheyrou, brother of former Liverpool player Bruno, is also likely to be included in Gerets' first XI, while another ex-Red, Boudewijn Zenden, could be on the bench.

cheers for that mate... Agger to start, that calls for a song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-81KyMQa2s

lol:D:D

[Ray]

What a goal that was too mate. How many other cenre-backs are capable of goals as good as that one (apart from Carragher of course :D )

Yea it was nice. If he does start id like to see him get on the score sheet. I'd be delighted for him since his long season out.

[D-Red]

Yea it was nice. If he does start id like to see him get on the score sheet. I'd be delighted for him since his long season out.

Yeah, he needs games. And we need him to sign a new contract ASAP too. There would be a queue of clubs looking to sign him on the cheap if worst comes to worst and he buys out his contract. But hopefully he'll get his fair share of starts and settles back in

[Ray]

Yeah, he needs games. And we need him to sign a new contract ASAP too. There would be a queue of clubs looking to sign him on the cheap if worst comes to worst and he buys out his contract. But hopefully he'll get his fair share of starts and settles back in

Yea hopefully its sorted out fast. Hopefully Rafa can keep the centre backs happy whatever way hes going to rotate them in the games ahead. Its nice to now if its Agger and Carra playing and we sub one of them, that we still have Sami(In the Prem ) and Skrytle on the bench or vice versa.

[D-Red]

Yea hopefully its sorted out fast. Hopefully Rafa can keep the centre backs happy whatever way hes going to rotate them in the games ahead. Its nice to now if its Agger and Carra playing and we sub one of them, that we still have Sami(In the Prem ) and Skrytle on the bench or vice versa.

Absolutely. To have 4 C.Backs as good as Carra, Skrtel, Agger and Hyppia is a real blessing. Quality

[STEVE1978]

Sould be playin for the win here,lets push on from the wekends reult and go for it. Lets set our stall out early this campaign and show the rest of europe that we mean business this year. 3nil to us. Congrats dred on ur 1000 post!!

[Ray]

Absolutely. To have 4 C.Backs as good as Carra, Skrtel, Agger and Hyppia is a real blessing. Quality


If the four of them can stay fit, and touch wood get no injuries, it could be key factor in us challanging properly for the PL. As one or 2 could be played mid week in CL and the other the weekend in the PL. That way there would be less tiredness in the players

[Ray]

Sould be playin for the win here,lets push on from the wekends reult and go for it. Lets set our stall out early this campaign and show the rest of europe that we mean business this year. 3nil to us. Congrats dred on ur 1000 post!!


I agree, straight out with an early goal and bombard them for the night. Get the result and the belif in the squad will be immense.:)

[D-Red]

Congrats dred on ur 1000 post!!

Thanks Buddy! God I really should start concentrating on work more though! :D

[mypost]

seen as PSV and Athletico away are maybe tougher games on paper.

You do realise you're joking, don't you?? :D

Make no mistake, tonight's game will be just as hard as last Saturday. We know from experience (albeit 4 years ago) that Marseille away is no walk in the park for anyone. Both teams won against each other last season, so if we win tonight, it will be a hard earned big result in the group for us.

[kaka2001]

Hope Riera starts again, was well impressed with him against UTD

I will be the first to admit that I didnt want him to sign, hopefully I will end up eating my hat!!!

[mrpotatohead]

You do realise you're joking, don't you?? :D

Make no mistake, tonight's game will be just as hard as last Saturday. We know from experience (albeit 4 years ago) that Marseille away is no walk in the park for anyone, especially when in form. Both teams won against each other last season, so if we win tonight, it will be a hard earned big result in the group for us.

I actually checked with myself, and no I wasnt jokin :D

I never said it was an easy game, but I dont fancy going PSV on the last game needing a win....? We wont know what will be at stake for either team come that game. Madrid away will be far from a cake walk either when you look at their team!
Therefore i conclude, in my view this wont be easy, but a win tonight would be a massive result in the shake up of the group!

[mypost]

Before everyone asks why, time to remind everyone that there will be no Carlsberg on our shirts tonight, along with no Heineken adverts, to comply with French legislation, which bans the advertising of alcohol.

[KopDoc]

I think this one has draw all over it...Would be great if keane got off the mark, I wonder will agger get a start tonight or has he fallen out of favour. Would love to see Carragher on the right or left and agger and skyrtel (the man) in the middle. Still finding it hard tro accept aurellio and arbeloa as pool standard...

[Ray]

I think this one has draw all over it...Would be great if keane got off the mark, I wonder will agger get a start tonight or has he fallen out of favour. Would love to see Carragher on the right or left and agger and skyrtel (the man) in the middle. Still finding it hard tro accept aurellio and arbeloa as pool standard...


Its win win mate.... 4-0 to the mighty reds. :D

[carpe diem]

getting the buzz now,beers chilling in the fridge music on up loud,waiting on the team news ... .. . gotta love these champions league nights

[Ray]

getting the buzz now,beers chilling in the fridge music on up loud,waiting on the team news ... .. . gotta love these champions league nights

You cant beat em.... Especially when ya there in Anfield at them. Sumtin special about a night match at Anfield, especially a European match... Its Bliss:)

[KopDoc]

Sorry folks, new to this could anyone tell me how to get your avatar picture under your user name?

Thanks

[carpe diem]

think ya got to make over 30 posts before you can put up an avatar but roll on tonight ... ive yet to experience a european night in anfield but someday soon i hope

[Ray]

think ya got to make over 30 posts before you can put up an avatar but roll on tonight ... ive yet to experience a european night in anfield but someday soon i hope

Yea its something special alrite.... A different feel. Cant wait for tonight. come on the pool. Open up the floodgates and bombard them with atta:Dcks

[REDHEART]

wonder who will play up front.will rafa go with torres and kuyt up front.kuyt is much more effective up front as was proved on saturday.had 3 very good attempts on goal and set-up the winner.if he plays keane and torres up front kuyt on the right who does he drop after that.

interesting indeed.

[carpe diem]

Reina
Dossena
Carragher
Skrtel
Arbeloa
Lucas
Mascherano
Gerrard
Babel
Kuyt
Torres

starting 11

[dg2]

would be alot happier if Alonso was there instead of Lucas and would like to see Keane starting but that team shold be good enough to win, 2-0

[wickla_mucker]

interesting line up...
back 4 is predictable... only change i would reverse would be alonso and lucas...
riera will prob come in for babel at some stage but good to see him start too :D
hopefully 2-0
id settle for that

[The Kopfather]

A Peach from stevie.

Thought kyut played it too far behind him but what a sweet strike.

c'mon lads

[carpe diem]

yeah great strike and double pen lol,defense is playing too far up the pitch imo

[jaza]

hat trick from stevie sure . granted only 2 will be allowed :D

[RedWally]

Did I hear correctly when RTE said there was only 600 REDS at that match. More loyalty buying no doubt.

[windhover]

Did I hear correctly when RTE said there was only 600 REDS at that match. More loyalty buying no doubt.

Bloody disgrace if true. cant believe the amount of free seats

[Molby Is a Legend]

Scary moments in that 2nd half, But job well done if you ask me,

Most important thing is to get three points on the board in the first game.

2nd half preformance leaves alot to be desired all the same

[carpe diem]

what was up with that second half, we got out of jail , a better team and we would have been in trouble,but a wins a win,well done pepe.

[jaza]

few sketchy moments but a win away from home good result especially with the formations played taking gerrard and torres off and babel with his first full game not the fittest but we played well for most of it. 3 points that will do

[MrsStevieG]

Good to get the win although very dissappointing second half performance. Alot of giving the ball away. We seemed happy to sit on it and defend once we were a goal up and we were lucky not to be caught out in the end.
Superb goal from Stevie G - outstanding.
Must give Riera a mention aswell, looking more and more like a very promising player.

Yeah RTE said there was only 600 reds at the game. What's the story there?.

[jaza]

Good to get the win although very dissappointing second half performance. Alot of giving the ball away. We seemed happy to sit on it and defend once we were a goal up and we were lucky not to be caught out in the end.
Superb goal from Stevie G - outstanding.


Yeah RTE said there was only 600 reds at the game. What's the story there?.


i bet ryanair had something to do with it

[Molby Is a Legend]

i bet ryanair had something to do with it

:D:D:D:D:D

RTE also Saying that we are no match for The other "TOP THREE" oh Dunphy how i have missed your Crap :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[mypost]

Won the game, but were lucky in the end.

We let Marseille play after the break, and arguably they should have got a point, but they still have enough quality to be in the shake up for the other qualifying spot. PSV are in big trouble already.

Glad to miss all the RTE bull. Clive "manc cumt":rolleyes: Tyldesley never mentioned the mancs once.

[jaza]

:D:D:D:D:D

RTE also Saying that we are no match for The other "TOP THREE" oh Dunphy how i have missed your Crap :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

i mean how can he say that when we had whats called a match against the number one team in england at the moment and won. what a retard

[carpe diem]

Good to get the win although very dissappointing second half performance. Alot of giving the ball away. We seemed happy to sit on it and defend once we were a goal up and we were lucky not to be caught out in the end.
Superb goal from Stevie G - outstanding.
Must give Riera a mention aswell, looking more and more like a very promising player.

Yeah RTE said there was only 600 reds at the game. What's the story there?.

we done that against arsenal aswell many moons ago i remember :( ,we got lucky tonight.riera is impressive,he looks like a big game player,no doubt he'll spend half the season on the bench :D

[RedWally]

3 pts and on to the next game. Wasn't pretty in the second half but I'll take it.

[trucker]

:D:D:D:D:D

RTE also Saying that we are no match for The other "TOP THREE" oh Dunphy how i have missed your Crap :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Souness just said in spending £200m we've only bought 1 top player Torres, what about skertel maschereno agger and the best keeper on the planet, Dunphy then said if we had'nt bought Lucas and arbeloa we could have bought Tevez, he then said lucas cost £5m how much does he F**** think we paid for arbeloa?

[trucker]

3 pts and on to the next game. Wasn't pretty in the second half but I'll take it.

Yep if arsenal get a win away tomorrow they'll be falling overr themselves to congratulate them!

[jaza]

Souness just said in spending £200m we've only bought 1 top player Torres, what about skertel maschereno agger and the best keeper on the planet, Dunphy then said if we had'nt bought Lucas and arbeloa we could have bought Tevez, he then said lucas cost £5m how much does he F**** think we paid for arbeloa?

I say you go kick his ass trucker i heard he was slagging you

[carpe diem]

I say you go kick his ass trucker i heard he was slagging you

lmao,i heard that too

[James]

Poor second half performance but no surprise considering some of the players who were on the pitch. I just don't get the point of Lucas and Kuyts passing was poor. Dossena looked dodgy and Arbeloa had his usual scary moments. I couldn't believe Benny didn't put Robbie through near the end, an awful decision. Thankfully Reina, Carragher and Skrtel lead from the back. Gerrard though was sublime, he looks fit for the first time this season. Riera again looked bright and Babel looks as if hes after coming on a bit. Poor Masch looked exhausted but hes allowed have an off day after Saturday.

Hopefully the second half was mostly down to the manc game. Play the best 11 on Saturday and we should beat them well.

[Molby Is a Legend]

Souness just said in spending £200m we've only bought 1 top player Torres, what about skertel maschereno agger and the best keeper on the planet, Dunphy then said if we had'nt bought Lucas and arbeloa we could have bought Tevez, he then said lucas cost £5m how much does he F**** think we paid for arbeloa?

Did you just hear Souness there i am qouting him word for word here " how many times have the home grown players Gerrard and Torres got the goals to get liverpool out of trouble, Last time i checked Torres was spainish and grown up in Spain but hey im just a liverpool fan what would i know he is the "EXPERT MANAGER" that is out of work. :rolleyes::rolleyes: What a GobSheen

[Raven136]

anychance of a boycott of rte;)they are shocking,no actual analysis and i read vincent hogan a while back who said they offer nothing but pretend controversy.
Few agenda's on show on the panel

[Molby Is a Legend]

anychance of a boycott of rte;)they are shocking,no actual analysis and i read vincent hogan a while back who said they offer nothing but pretend controversy.
Few agenda's on show on the panel

Jesus dont let mypost hear you say Boycott RTE He love Dunphy and Co. :D:D:D:D:D:D

[MrsStevieG]

I say you go kick his ass trucker i heard he was slagging you

:D

Ah lads don't be even discussing what that Dunphy fella was saying - he's a muppet. I enjoy the RTE panel when we are not playing but when it comes to Liverpool and Dunphy just forget it. I don't even listen to him anymore, just blank it out.

[jaza]

anychance of a boycott of rte;)they are shocking,no actual analysis and i read vincent hogan a while back who said they offer nothing but pretend controversy.
Few agenda's on show on the panel

you should talk to mypost

[Niall]

Dunphy said Rafa doesn't want to sign class players then 10 minutes later says the Yanks blocked the move for Barry and calls him a class player! Dear me.

[mypost]

Watch ITV/BSKYB/ARD/TVE, anyone but RTE.

[RedMurph08]

Won the game, but were lucky in the end.

We let Marseille play after the break, and arguably they should have got a point, but they still have enough quality to be in the shake up for the other qualifying spot. PSV are in big trouble already.

Glad to miss all the RTE bull. Clive "manc cumt":rolleyes: Tyldesley never mentioned the mancs once.

Lol!

[carpe diem]

i enjoy the lads on the panel especially when bill tries to defend us,funny stuff,not alot take dunphy seriously,i personally find him very funny hehe,ya gotta have thick skin to listen to him lol

[mypost]

i enjoy the lads funny stuff,not alot take dunphy seriously,i personally find him very funny hehe,ya gotta have thick skin to listen to him lol

He's an ignorant, clueless, anti-LFC buffoon.

[jaza]

He's an ignorant, anti-LFC buffoon.

hmm sounds familiar

[REDHEART]

piss poor.what was that second half all about.first half was ok.second half we sat on a lead invited them on.hit long balls up to babel and nearly paid the price.very negative second half against a team who lwere obviously poor defensively.and rafa's substitutions are baffling.hard to watch again after a good performance on saturday.:(

[Molby Is a Legend]

He's an ignorant, clueless, anti-LFC buffoon.

True but it is funny :D:D:D:D

[Beglin's Peg]

You have to just take them with a large pinch of salt. They were right though that the game was made for Alonso in the second half. I thought Masher looked tired after Saturday and the two WC games and Lucas is just not good enough, Rafa seems to have a real blind spot where he's concerned. We got lucky in the end, really should have put them away easier.

On a side note nice to see Luis and Sinama-P setting up the 3 Athletico goals. Hope they're quiet when they play us though.

[carpe diem]

He's an ignorant, clueless, anti-LFC buffoon.

so what mate sticks n stones lmao,he's the same with everyone,you shouldnt take it so personally :D

[REDHEART]

You have to just take them with a large pinch of salt. They were right though that the game was made for Alonso in the second half. I thought Masher looked tired after Saturday and the two WC games and Lucas is just not good enough, Rafa seems to have a real blind spot where he's concerned. We got lucky in the end, really should have put them away easier.

On a side note nice to see Luis and Sinama-P setting up the 3 Athletico goals. Hope they're quiet when they play us though.

yeah lucas just does'nt offer anything at all.i don't like to bad mouth the lad but it's the truth.

[mypost]

so what, he's the same with everyone,you shouldnt take it so personally :D

Anyone who watches their coverage of the Villarreal game tomorrow night, will have to put up with his description of how wonderful their opponents are.

It's not him that annoys me, it's the lot of them, both commentators and pundits. That's what they're like when we win, they're 10 times worse when we don't. I don't find it the least bit funny.

[RobbieC]

so what mate sticks n stones lmao,he's the same with everyone,you shouldnt take it so personally :D

But thats what gets RTE such good ratings its all controvesy as in when they slagg Liverpool off its all that they have is two senile old cnuts with a different ex player/manager there that wont go against them.

They are not anti Liverpool its just they are not there biggest fans.

Look at the Ronaldo quote that was hardly to please anyone but Liverpool,as you say carpe its not personal but they dont rate Rafa and thats there opinion.

[carpe diem]

Anyone who watches their coverage of the Villarreal game tomorrow night, will have to put up with his description of how wonderful their opponents are.

It's not him that annoys me, it's the lot of them, both commentators and pundits. That's what they're like when we win, they're 10 times worse when we don't. I don't find it the least bit funny.

each to their own,ive seen him slate united players in the past,i like him :D:D,the rest of the pundits bbc/itv/sky sports are too politically correct ,i like people who speak how they feel.

[Beglin's Peg]

We have to face facts though, we were very poor in the second half against a pretty average side and got out of jail. It's very frustrating watching it especially after the weekend. This will certainly dampen down expectations after Saturday.

Maybe that was Rafa's plan at half-time. Very clever.

[SignoraFrasi]

super start to the group.more points now than after 3 group games last year.the first 25 minutes the game was very stretched.completely different to how we usually start away from home in european games.

[mypost]

the rest of the pundits bbc/itv/sky sports are too politically correct ,i like people who speak how they feel.

That's all very well, I do it enough, but from outsiders, I prefer pc analysis on LFC, than incoherent, backward drivel from a drunkard, masquerading as "expert analysis". Viewers PAY good money to watch that. :eek:

[carpe diem]

That's all very well, I do it enough, but from outsiders, I prefer pc analysis on LFC, than incoherent, backward drivel from a drunkard, masquerading as "expert analysis". Viewers PAY good money to watch that. :eek:

do you not find all that boring??? 3 channels saying the same thing over and over and over again,no one said he's an expert analyist,he's just funny :D

[mypost]

No. It's more accurate and palatable than listening to Dunphy and co.

[carpe diem]

then i suggest you dont listen to them lmao

[redspider]

A Win and 3 pts away from home in the CL, good on paper but not a great game from a Liverpool perspective. We gave them far too much room in the 2nd half, and nearly paid the price as they came close on numerous occasions and could have even won it. So this was winning ugly.

Our starting formation was 4-2-3-1:

------------- Reina -----------
Arbeloa - Carra - Skrtel - Dossena
------ Masch ----- Lucas -----
Kuyt -------- Gerrard ----- Babel
------------- Torres ----------

So, Rafa avoided the Keane/Gerrard/Torres/4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 conundrum by benching Robbie. Alonso also was rested.

I didnt see the start of the game so I just missed their goal. I caught our equaliser though and what a peach it was. When Stevie hit it I thought he may have miscued it as their goalie stopped moving. But little did I realise that it was just because he was beaten and the ball looped into the corner of the net. It was a peach of a finish.

The penalty was a clear one too a few mins later. Kuyt's over exuberance caused it to be retaken and Stevie matter of factly and more or less annoyed scored it for the 2nd time. That's what I like to see. Stevie in commanding control with a get-in-there attitude.

Liverpool did create a chance for Babel in the 2nd half and after Keane came on even then we had a few openings but poor Keane didnt get the right pass even when he was in space and potentially through. I feel sorry for him as he is getting no breaks. I hope for us he gets off the mark soon, as even though I dont think he was the right type of player for the 4-2-3-1 system, we have him now so we better make the best use of him. And he's Irish to boot.

Torres was just so-so, perhaps protecting his hamstring.

Riera came on with about 30 mins left and did okay, although when out stuck on the left, and with Liverpool more or less playing 4-5-1 with Gerrard off, he didnt get that much of the ball.

I dont think Dossena did that much and Kuyt gave the ball away more often than not so not a good display from him.

We let them get far too much of the ball, players standing off. Reina did well, he had to really. That 2-ball situation shouldnt have been allowed to be a goal, the ref was wrong to play on, thats against the rules because as soon as a ref realises there are two balls on the pitch he has to blow up, no matter what the state of play is.

Carra and Skrtel both played good.

As for the RTE panel, lets not litter this thread with their presence. Surely we can have a separate "RTE panel" thread somewhere. No doubt a long one ....

Redspider

[carpe diem]

dunphy said it was one of the best goals he's ever seen,one pele would have been proud of lol

[Ray]

dunphy said it was one of the best goals he's ever seen,one pele would have been proud of lol


Thats was probably the only good thing hes ever said about Liverpool. The twat:D

[denashpot]

Thats was probably the only good thing hes ever said about Liverpool. The twat:D

true, thought i was hearing things when he said that!! :eek:

[carpe diem]

am i the only one who thinks he's funny??? lol

[denashpot]

am i the only one who thinks he's funny??? lol

not funny. a stupid pr&*k springs to mind alright when i see him on tv. :D

[Ray]

The second half was not nice to watch. Pepe saved us in the end, he was great between the sticks. A couple of changes in the team compared to Saturdays game against the scum. I think Lucas was brutal tonight and was surprised to see him start. Cracker of a goal by Stevie G. Right out of the top drawer. Again we didnt play that well second half and Marsellie had some good chances. I thought we should of tried to get a third goal while Gerrard and Torres was still on the pitch. I didnt no what Rafa was up to taking them of at 2-1 with Marsellie in full throtal. But it worked in the end and I suppose thats why he is Manager. 3points away in the first game in the group stage of The Champions League is what its all about so well done lads

[carpe diem]

not funny. a stupid pr&*k springs to mind alright when i see him on tv. :D

you lot are way too sensitive,that guy needs to be up on a stage,id pay to see him :D

[Ray]

true, thought i was hearing things when he said that!! :eek:

Same here, I was like did he realy say that:eek::eek:

[mcinerdo]

It as to be down to the Benitez that the team can play so well on Saturday and so poorly today......He's not putting the right attitude in to their minds...and his substitutions are bizarre ! We should have won that game 4-0 and instead we hung on in the end.....the new dawn has just clouded over.............

[RedWally]

It as to be down to the Benitez that the team can play so well on Saturday and so poorly today......He's not putting the right attitude in to their minds...and his substitutions are bizarre ! We should have won that game 4-0 and instead we hung on in the end.....the new dawn has just clouded over.............

Don't think there was ever a "new dawn". Man U were not good on Sat and gifted us 2 goals which on another day we wouldn't have got.

I reckon a win is a win tonight however and we should move onto next game. Could have been a case of him happy with a 2-1 win or even a draw at half time and taking things easy in second half.

[Ray]

It as to be down to the Benitez that the team can play so well on Saturday and so poorly today......He's not putting the right attitude in to their minds...and his substitutions are bizarre ! We should have won that game 4-0 and instead we hung on in the end.....the new dawn has just clouded over.............

thats the score I thought would happin. I realy thought we would run a muck tonight on the back of saturdays performance. Maybe Rafa wants to keep the players fresh and his eggs in both baskets for the 2compitions. It was strange line up and substatutions but it still payed off. We seem to be still getting results though we are playing poor on the eye. The only time we played well this season was aginst the scum. It was as if the players raised their game for that match.

Playing attractive football doesnt always gauretee you 3points

[carpe diem]

Playing attractive football doesnt always gauretee you 3points[/QUOTE]

that maybe true as proved by tonights performance but it could have been so much easier,i think rafa thinks too far into the future,this has been his downfall as far as the league is concerned since he's arrived,his substitutions were a disgrace tonight lets be honest,lucas kuyt and dossena are duds,alonso,riera and keane on the bench??

[wickla_mucker]

jaysus there will always be begrudgers
last year we struggled in the first few champs league games so to win tonight im delighted - no matter how we did
and to put winning on sat down to utd playing bad? hello - we still played well took control and came from one behind - what more do you want?
and taking torres and gerrard off - both coming back after injuries - last season we rushed Torres back and payed the sacrifice!
Look i know we havent played fantastically for the first few games but most importantly we are gettin results and thats what matters at the end of the day
we will improve our game and if we keep picking up 3 points (in both comps) we will go further than last yr
sorry for the rant but theres too many out there that will never be happy

rant over
In Rafa I trust

[carpe diem]

we are all entitled to a rant,but its only the start of the season,spare players towards the end of the season in lesser games,im delighted with the 3 points tonight,gerrard never looked uncomfortable in that game,if anything alonso should have came on for masher,he looked recked,torres just didnt play well,we're all entitled to an off day,keane should have came on for him,kuyt looked jaded also,we were put under needless pressure due to rafa's decisions,if it ended 2-2 we'd be having a different conversation,rafa got lucky tonight.

[Raven136]

im on a few sites at the moment and im in the majority tonight...im fuc##ng delighted with tonight.
We had Gerrard and Babel looking great and won away from home.Its not a 3rd rate greek/cypriot team lads,Marseille arent half bad and we cruised most of the game.Yeah we should have wrapped it up but its 3 points in the bag.

Xabi,Keane and Babel will hopefully start saturday and depending on results we could be 9 points clear of United.
We are playing better now and tiredness could have been a factor in the 2nd half tonight,Kuyt clearly was out on his feet.
Great start to the season

[NotTooXabi]

Dont get me wrong i'm delighted with the 3 points and I know its early doors in the season but bar the time from when Stevie hit that gem and the whistle for half time IMO we were bad 2nite. Too many sloppy balls, Lucas was terrible and I cant understand why the best player on saturday for me was sat on the bench. Xabi could have bossed the middle and settled the game that should have been put to bed after the restart. I'll never doubt Rafa as he's made some inspired subs especially on saturday but if we are to get playing well we need fluidity and need players to gel by giving them more games especially after puting in a great performance in the previous game. It can only give a player more confidence and build up partnerships with other players which for me we seem to be lacking.Glad we got the right result but it could have been a different story altogether in that 2nd half if it wasn't for the lads at the back.

[Raven136]

nope the best player from saturday defo played,monster masch was on:D

i'll agree that not everything was great but we are still unbeaten and the confidence among the players must be huge.
Anyone for an arsenal invincible season:D(luck seems to be finally spilling our way this season)

[CrazyHorse]

Overall, Im happy with 3 pts in our first CL outing of the season.

The performance wasn't brilliant, particularly the 2 nd half, but we done enough to win, while giving a rest to Torres & Gerrard after their recent injuries.

Marseille had lots of the ball in the 2nd half, but for the most part, they didn't look threatening... bar the last few minutes. Thanks to Pepe for his positioning...

We can only up our performances after what has been a lacklustre start to the season, but we cant really ask for a better start, apart from the draw at Villa, which may turn out to be a good result in the long run.

BTW, was it just me or were we playing a crazy high line tonight?
I mean, the Marseille players had a bit of pace about them, and playing such a risky tactic could have been our downfall...

Anyways.... Babel had one of the best games Ive seen him play for us when starting a game tonight, and his confidence has shot up since the goal against the scum... He has the ability to be a top player, he just needs to believe in himself more... Hopefully that will come.

And what a goal by Stevie... another screamer for the collection!!!

Roll on Stoke, and the Human Launchpad.. Rory Delap!!

[mypost]

then i suggest you dont listen to them

Em, I don't. :confused:

thats the score I thought would happin. I realy thought we would run a muck tonight on the back of saturdays performance.

I said it would be as hard as Saturday, and that a win would be hard-earned, and it was. Bar last year's one-off scoreline, nobody runs a muck in Marseille, even the mancs have lost there in the past. :) If it wasn't for poor finishing and good goalkeeping, Marseille would have taken something from the game, as was the case in Liege. We just about held out.

[jaza]

that maybe true as proved by tonights performance but it could have been so much easier,i think rafa thinks too far into the future,this has been his downfall as far as the league is concerned since he's arrived,his substitutions were a disgrace tonight lets be honest,lucas kuyt and dossena are duds,alonso,riera and keane on the bench??

but it looked to me this year the risks he took could cost us the champions league where as las year he rotated in the prem to have players fresh in the champions league looks like hes doing it the other way round now

[Raven136]

I disagree about the changes,lucas will only get better if he gets games.Remember this was the most highly rated player in the Copa Libertadores.
Kuyt works his socks off and is perfect for those games and Dossena is just settling in.
The team picked last night was fine,we won and got a very good perfromance from Babel.
Rotation is the core of Rafa's policy and Xabi and Keane(both fully fresh)should start on saturday and give us a chance of opening up a 9 point lead on United.

[mrpotatohead]

BTW, was it just me or were we playing a crazy high line tonight?
I mean, the Marseille players had a bit of pace about them, and playing such a risky tactic could have been our downfall...


Yeah and Carragher seemed to be a bit confused or scared to step it up at times which was almost costly.

Great result last night. We were sort of clinging on in the end and rode our luck with their late chances, but Marseille are a good side, and will surely pick up points at home in the next 2matchs.
The four goals last night were great.
Cheroyus turn and pass for the first goal was almost un-defendable against, he looked decent enough in the first half, but faded out in the second a bit. Better than his brother anyways!

Stevie Gs goals were great, the first was a beauty, and not from the regular Stevie G hit it as hard as you can book of goals. His strike for the first penalty was a beaut too and then he showed great nerve to stick away the retake.

Its been said above that Lucas was poor and a few of the team looked tired, I was screaming out for Alonso to be brought on to try and keep some possession, but maybe Rafa thought that Riera and Keane as outlets for the ball was a better option than bringing on Xabi who would maybe be trying to pass it to already tired players (Torres, Babel etc) I think he also wanted to just take off Gerrard and Torres after their recent lay offs.

Objective last night : 3 points in bag. Cant ask for much more.

[Liverpool-law]

I think people are only talking about the RTE panel from after the match. They gave us a lot of credit at half time but the second half performance was poor. Objectively they said a lot of things that made sense, I actually think last saturday and half time last night is the most positive stuff they've said about Liverpool.

My only worry is the full backs, we actually seem weaker in that department for the first time in a few years. We look more likely to score going forward but more likely to concede at the back...

[travis]

I don't think the second half performance was poor as such, Rafa changed tactics at half time and told the players to sit back and play counter attack.
We could have scored another 3 goals in the second half but for their keeper.
All in all it was a great European away win because Marseilles will take alot of beating at home this season.

[redspider]

if anything alonso should have came on for masher,he looked recked,torres just didnt play well,we're all entitled to an off day,keane should have came on for him,kuyt looked jaded also

Yeah, I agree, Masch didnt have a good game. He seemed to be one step/movement behind what an opponent was doing, and he wasnt able to get his foot in, close down like he normally does. Mentally tired perhaps and physically too. It was only Tue after all. Lucas didnt help him that much, but he played as well as Masch.

I agree that Robbie (or is it Robert David now ;-) ) should have come on for Torres. If anything, Robbie looked sharp. Still, it was good to give Babel a chance in the middle for once. It would have been an ideal time for Robbie to get off his mark if Babel or Benni would have only passed on those two occasions. It must be frustrating for Robbie.

Kuyt gave the ball away far too cheaply last night, not a good game from him.

By the way, interesting to see Luis Garcia doing so well ....

As for the 'RTE panel heads' comments about the 200million, its easy to throw out headline numbers like that. The only way to assess the true cost of players is:

a) their actual purchase price (some are not publicly disclosed)
b) their actual salary cost over the term they are employed (some are guessed at by the press and perpetuated, except for Riise's!)
c) their sale price
d) if not sold, their asset/sale price valuation estimation

Neither Gilesy, Souness nor Dumb-phy are in any way enlightened as to the actual finances of football and the net costs of these players.

What is clear though is that Rafa is churning through a lot of players, as many have come in, and many leave again. This exaggerates the amount of money spent if you just look at the spending column and not the sales column.

Btw, a trivia question, but why did Marseille wear their 3rd strip at home? It wasnt as if there was a clash between all-white and all-red.

Redspider

[D-Red]

I agree that Robbie (or is it Robert David now ;-)

yeah what was that Robert David stuff about last night? "Robert David Keane", Not a very typical Tallaght name :D

Maybe our new chant should be "There's only one Robert David Keane"

[redspider]

yeah what was that Robert David stuff about last night?

I thought it must have been the way his name was registered at Uefa for the CL, sometimes you see different names for players especially those that go by nicknames, but I just checked Uefa.com and they have him down as Robbie Keane: http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/fixturesresults/round=15276/match=302704/report=lu.html

No doubt Robert David Keane is his real name.

No, its not, its: Roibéard DaithÃ* Ó Catháin .... better get on to Uefa. ;-)

[Juan]

we looked shaky in the 2nd half,but thank christ for Gerrard(again)
not many world class players could put in a performance like that, at less than
100% fit. 3pts away is a great start for us:)

[Liverpool-law]

Hopefully Marseille will take some points off the other two at home, they looked handy enough on the break.

[D-Red]

Hopefully Marseille will take some points off the other two at home, they looked handy enough on the break.

Yeah Marseille will be difficult opponents for the other two. They'll probably beat PSV in France without too much difficulty and may even nick a draw against Atleti. They're very handy going forward, if a little dodgy at the back

[mrpotatohead]

Yeah Marseille will be difficult opponents for the other two. They'll probably beat PSV in France without too much difficulty and may even nick a draw against Atleti. They're very handy going forward, if a little dodgy at the back

Yeah but with the likes of Ben Arfa (new signing) and Valbuena only back from injury I can only see them getting better really, so we might have got them at the best time. Could be interesting return match!

[Ray]

Yeah Marseille will be difficult opponents for the other two. They'll probably beat PSV in France without too much difficulty and may even nick a draw against Atleti. They're very handy going forward, if a little dodgy at the back


They will take points of the other 2teams, they played well last night. I still think we should top the group though

[D-Red]

They will take points of the other 2teams, they played well last night. I still think we should top the group though

Absolutely we should. It was a big win. And sets us up very nicely

[Ray]

Absolutely we should. It was a big win. And sets us up very nicely


I cant see us dropping any points in this group, I honestly think we could take maximum points from every game

[Badman]

good result but very poor 2nd half - thank fowler for stevie g. the performance wasnt helped by picking lucas (not good enough for liverpool by a distance) instead of alonso who was outstanding in midfield last saturday. also wouldve had keane in instead of kuyt but otherwise the team picked itself. rafa wouldve been courting more hard questions on alonso's omission had the marseille boys equalised. its just madness again to change that midfield axis - only gerrards genius, reinas positioning and a lotta luck saved us ast nite in the 2nd half. why oh why does he keep tinkering - esp with a part of the team that looked awesome against the champions of england and europe. madness

[D-Red]

good result but very poor 2nd half - thank fowler for stevie g. the performance wasnt helped by picking lucas (not good enough for liverpool by a distance) instead of alonso who was outstanding in midfield last saturday. also wouldve had keane in instead of kuyt but otherwise the team picked itself. rafa wouldve been courting more hard questions on alonso's omission had the marseille boys equalised. its just madness again to change that midfield axis - only gerrards genius, reinas positioning and a lotta luck saved us ast nite in the 2nd half. why oh why does he keep tinkering - esp with a part of the team that looked awesome against the champions of england and europe. madness

Some good points there as usual mate, and no offence meant here, but we can't expect to have the same team out every week.

If we did then they'd be wrecked by the middle of the season, and all our squad players would quite rightly look to leave, and other players would suffer from a lack of competition.

Rafa was right to change the team and hopefully he'll continue to rotate it in Europe this season, keeping players fresh for the League!

[Ray]

Some good points there as usual mate, and no offence meant here, but we can't expect to have the same team out every week.

If we did then they'd be wrecked by the middle of the season, and all our squad players would quite rightly look to leave, and other players would suffer from a lack of competition.

Rafa was right to change the team and hopefully he'll continue to rotate it in Europe this season, keeping players fresh for the League!


totally agree with what your saying mate. We need players fresh for the League.

[jaza]

good result but very poor 2nd half - thank fowler for stevie g. the performance wasnt helped by picking lucas (not good enough for liverpool by a distance) instead of alonso who was outstanding in midfield last saturday. also wouldve had keane in instead of kuyt but otherwise the team picked itself. rafa wouldve been courting more hard questions on alonso's omission had the marseille boys equalised. its just madness again to change that midfield axis - only gerrards genius, reinas positioning and a lotta luck saved us ast nite in the 2nd half. why oh why does he keep tinkering - esp with a part of the team that looked awesome against the champions of england and europe. madness

at least he is doing his rotation in the champions league this year as i said before. looks like he is showing where his priorities lie and thats with the premiership

[MrsStevieG]

Yeah I know that its frustrating to see the team being changed around and the performance suffering as a result but if it keeps the team fresh coming into the later stages of the season (and of course as long as we are still winning games) then I am happy enough. I think that is Rafa's thinking and we don't have the players to play a "strong team" every single week.
I agree with Badman's point about Lucas and I have said this from the start, I don't rate him as a player. Now maybe he just needs more time:confused: to settle in but to me he is not good enough for Liverpool. All that business about him being the captain of Brazil's under 21's etc, that's all well and good but it doesn't look like he has made the transition to Premier League well. Now I am probably jumping the gun here as he is a young player and he will prove me wrong in time but I don't know.

[Andrew]

Agree with you there D-Red. Rafa will play the players he thinks are needed to win each game and he'll always have one eye on the next game.
The first game in the group stage against Marseilles (no pushovers but no giants of football either) is a decent opportunity to put out some fresh legs.
A lot of the players would have been knackered from the Man U game and that's reflected in the starting lineup last night.
Gerrard and Torres started after not starting on Sat. Since they're off the back of an injury and he took them off early to protect them.
Alonso who played the full 90 on Sat was replaced by the capable Lucas. Keane off for Babel who's looking better and better every game.
I'm sure Kuyt and Masch could have done with a rest too but then we'd be too weak.
At the end of the day, we got the 3 points, some up and coming players got Champs league experience and some players were rested at the same time. It's all good.

[mcinerdo]

Yeah I know that its frustrating to see the team being changed around and the performance suffering as a result but if it keeps the team fresh coming into the later stages of the season (and of course as long as we are still winning games) then I am happy enough. I think that is Rafa's thinking and we don't have the players to play a "strong team" every single week.
I agree with Badman's point about Lucas and I have said this from the start, I don't rate him as a player. Now maybe he just needs more time:confused: to settle in but to me he is not good enough for Liverpool. All that business about him being the captain of Brazil's under 21's etc, that's all well and good but it doesn't look like he has made the transition to Premier League well. Now I am probably jumping the gun here as he is a young player and he will prove me wrong in time but I don't know.

Chelsea played the same team that beat Man city...I'd like to see a comparison as to whether Benitez rotates his team more or less that the other big 3 ?

[Pimboli]

Its too soon to see if he is rotating to benefit the team in Europe or in the Premiership.

If we were playing say Barca in the next game I am pretty confident you would see our major players being rested in the league game to be saved for the european one.

I think Rafa made a mistake playing Masch and not Alonso, there was no need for Masch last night and as the muppets on RTE correctly pointed out last night we needed someone to put the foot on the ball and control the game a la Alonso but who did we have in the middle to pull the strings? Lucas who makes Momo's distribution look Molby like by comparison!!!

[dg2]

good result, poor 2nd half, I was disapointed Keane only got 4 mins. Of the changes, it was obvious he was going to start with Gerrard and Torres if fit and I think we all agree that Babel deserved a start after his impact on Saturday but Alonso should have started ahead of Lucas

[Raven136]

Everyone is being a bit harsh on Lucas,he is still very young and Rafa clearly likes him a lot.Cant write a young player off after playing less than 35 games for us and many as sub.

[Andrew]

Everyone is being a bit harsh on Lucas,he is still very young and Rafa clearly likes him a lot.Cant write a young player off after playing less than 35 games for us and many as sub.

Very true. He didn't have an amazing game last night but at the same time he didn't really do much wrong either. He made himself available, passed the ball well and performed his defense duties.

As for Rafa's rotation vs the other big 3. That debate has been done to death. I don't have the stats at hand but Rafa rotated no more than whiskey nose last season. Rafa just rotates more consistently throughout the season, changing 1 or 2 players in each game. No harm in that. It's good to rest players from time to time and it's also good to give other players a chance and maintain competition for places in the squad.

[Rover 609]

Personally i thought we cruised through the game.Marseielle pushed late for an equaliser but on balance for 90 mins i dont think theyd have deserved it.While we eased off in the 2nd half(dont know why though)marseille couldnt break us down or threaten in front of goal until it was too late.When they did that machine we have in the nets Pepe was class,just looked as if nothin was gettin by him.
During the warm down the handful of fans that was there showed who they thought was there main man on the nite,
Ole,Ole...Pepe Reina,Pepe Reina.....Ole,Ole..Pepe Reina,Pepe Reina..........!

[jaza]

Personally i thought we cruised through the game.Marseielle pushed late for an equaliser but on balance for 90 mins i dont think theyd have deserved it.While we eased off in the 2nd half(dont know why though)marseille couldnt break us down or threaten in front of goal until it was too late.When they did that machine we have in the nets Pepe was class,just looked as if nothin was gettin by him.
During the warm down the handful of fans that was there showed who they thought was there main man on the nite,
Ole,Ole...Pepe Reina,Pepe Reina.....Ole,Ole..Pepe Reina,Pepe Reina..........!


I agree i feel we cruised it i was never worried except for some sketchy moments in the dying minutes but that was expected , of course marseille would push us towards the end they want to win they will try but was not worried even when we went a goal down.

[dking]

Its too soon to see if he is rotating to benefit the team in Europe or in the Premiership.

If we were playing say Barca in the next game I am pretty confident you would see our major players being rested in the league game to be saved for the european one.

I think Rafa made a mistake playing Masch and not Alonso, there was no need for Masch last night and as the muppets on RTE correctly pointed out last night we needed someone to put the foot on the ball and control the game a la Alonso but who did we have in the middle to pull the strings? Lucas who makes Momo's distribution look Molby like by comparison!!!

good post.

[mypost]

I cant see us dropping any points in this group, I honestly think we could take maximum points from every game

Won't happen.

If we were to win the first 4 games and go through, he'll field the kids/reserves in the last two games, and we'll lose them. It's what every club does if they win the first 4 group games, so very few win all 6. It's a very hard group anyway, so full points is a big ask.

[Andrew]

I wouldn't be surprised if we beat PSV that some players will be rested for the Ath. Madrid away game seeing as we play Chelsea a few days later (also away). If we beat PSV, that's 6 points in the bag and we'd be confident of beating Marseilles and PSV again.

[redchariot]

Great win last night; pity the second half was so lacklustre but other than a late flourish near the end, Marseille never looked like equalising.

Stevie G; what a goal!!!!

[Molby Is a Legend]

Did you just hear Souness there i am qouting him word for word here " how many times have the home grown players Gerrard and Torres got the goals to get liverpool out of trouble, Last time i checked Torres was spainish and grown up in Spain but hey im just a liverpool fan what would i know he is the "EXPERT MANAGER" that is out of work. :rolleyes::rolleyes: What a GobSheen

Do ya think this is talking sense :(

I think people are only talking about the RTE panel from after the match. They gave us a lot of credit at half time but the second half performance was poor. Objectively they said a lot of things that made sense, I actually think last saturday and half time last night is the most positive stuff they've said about Liverpool.

My only worry is the full backs, we actually seem weaker in that department for the first time in a few years. We look more likely to score going forward but more likely to concede at the back...


Agreed here mate but i do think that aurelio worked well with Riera on sat maybe it was a one of but maybe it is something they can work on if Aurelio stays fit

[mcinerdo]

They're running a Poll on which goal was better (Gerrard v marseille OR D.Piero v Zenit)

I rate Piero's goal but it was it better than Gerrard's!?!

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=870188

Yep, Gerrard's was a moving ball and keeper positioning was fine, the shot was just too good