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paddypower111
19-08-2007, 05:12 PM
robbed
Fowler's God
19-08-2007, 05:27 PM
ridiculous - Malouda the cheating git and combined with Rob Styles woeful refereeing when he booked Essien Twice?? and didn't send him and pictures show he clearly card Essien for the 2nd yellow no excuses. Rafa did well to hold back. Styles should never ref again in the Premiership with decisions like that another Graham Poll have no sympathy for the incompetent man.
As for Malouda fits chelsea's club perfectly cheating scum no wonder no one wanted you at Anfield with characteristics like that in your locker you don't deserve to call yourself a footballer.
redeagle
19-08-2007, 05:46 PM
can't believe it. But its not THAT bad. I think we can take some real positives from the game. We played some good neat football and we were the only ones trying to do it.
4 from 6. Its not over yet.
YNWA
we deserved better. Style sent Kitson off against ManU - he loves being the centre of attention deos'nt he?
3 points should have been ours we were cheeted, referee was a disgrace, thought the game showed some really postive stuff goin forward, and we should be afraid of no one, we are good enough I know we are contenders for the title.
robbed
^^^Thats all i have to say, well along with i hope Rob Styles loses his job...
dubit10
19-08-2007, 06:04 PM
Its idiots like that ref that are making young people turn there backs on football.Its very sad when even Man Utd fans are saying we were robbed.Words cant even describe how bad styles was today.If come the seasons end we lose the league by a point or two then he should be sacked as an offical.Shocking.:mad:Besides that i think we where fantastic in the first half and good in the second.I really believe we will contend this year for the title.Just thank god that styles isnt refereeing our games every week.Wan*er
megager
19-08-2007, 06:27 PM
A case of 3 points pickpocketed rather than lost, but to be honest, we should have been out of sight. Very encouraging that we destroyed the premiership favourites, didnt give them a sniff and with better finishing (again) we should have been out of sight. Before the game Id have taken a point, though I dont feel that way now!!
As for the ref, Im hoarse shouting expletives, if i try typing then Ill get a stress fracture of my fingers. Cretinous Useless Negligable Tosser!!
Rafa said it all for me in the post match interview..."unbelievable"
paddypower111
19-08-2007, 07:34 PM
i think styles is a chelsea fan. no dought about it. i think we should referees with a tv screen infront of them from the stands . my friend has sky plus and if u miss some thing it only take a second to rewind and see it again.
but we were the better team out of united and chelsea today i did nt see arses game so i dont know. i know its early but if we play the way we played today we should be right up there if not on top of the leauge
Cully
19-08-2007, 07:37 PM
Im gutted,robbed from a dirty cheat and idiotic refereeing.
Also worth mentioning how nasty Terry and lampard were.
I thought we were the better team and i take a lot of positives from the game but it still smarts to be robbed the way we were today.
byrnetred
19-08-2007, 08:45 PM
i feel sick inside after watching that 2nd half...
James
19-08-2007, 09:13 PM
Saying we were robbed or cheated is smalltime imo. Clear cut chances were few and far between in the first half and it took a bit of magic to take the lead. After that I cant think of a single decent goal scoring opportunity. If it was going to happen it was going to be from distance by Riise or Gerrard. Pizarro and Terry both wasted good chances for them.
Im not saying Styles wasnt a joke,he clearly was but when you control and dominate a game but fail to turn the pressure into chances the suckerpunch is inevitable and it wont be the last time this happens.
The main positive for me was the ball retention. It is so much better than last season and we're finally starting to play the way Rafa has always wanted. If you dont give the ball away you dont concede goals and when you have Gerrard and Torres on the pitch you will score and that is why we will be title contenders in May.
WexRed
19-08-2007, 09:20 PM
Rob by name rob by nature
Terry is ALWAYS nasty
On the cheat business its plausible that Malouda was jumping out of the way of the ball to leave it for Drogba in which case it should've been a free out as ironically he denied Finnan the chance of clearing it by fouling him. I'm inclined to think its more of a case of that than him diving (its nearly too bad a dive with no contact with the ball or defender to be consciously intentional). It makes the ref's decision, from a perfect position to see it, all the worse. I cannot think of a worse deno decision for any team made the worse by its impact and compacted later by not sending off Essien when clearly booked him and just to hit the full house the 4th official backs him up, he refuses to comment and the opposition manager (predictable in this case but maybe not if was any other team) justifies the worse decision you'll see all season. OK a perfectly valid goal was denied yesterday but humans can't see as clearly as a slo-mo reply but 45k could see that was never a peno and ref was right on top of it so thats down to incompetence.
Apparantly the FA's hug bear for this season was meant to be clamping down on the bullying of refs and serial divers, and the usual suspects were actually warned. So much for that.
For all of the valid gripe fodder though.......what a goal by Torres. We haven't had a player since Owen left capable of scoring one like that, it was an instant case of now THAT's what we've been missing. Also like the look of Babel but I will still remember this game as the one where Torres showed us what we all hoped he would. The mancs in the pub thought goal was top drawer and peno was literally the worse decision they'd ever seen, sums up the match.
No doubt about it, we were well and truly robbed. thing is, I can bear no grudge against Chelsea, which makes it even more sickening that we didn't win. Its not like Malouda should have expected to get a penalty and its not like Essien should have walked off when he got that second yellow card. The blame well and truly rests on the shoulders of Styles and I'd be very surprised if he ref'd a game in Anfield again this season. I thought that German ref in Athens was the worst I'd ever seen, but that was before today :mad:
WexRed
19-08-2007, 09:37 PM
Saying we were robbed or cheated is smalltime imo. Clear cut chances were few and far between in the first half and it took a bit of magic to take the lead. After that I cant think of a single decent goal scoring opportunity. If it was going to happen it was going to be from distance by Riise or Gerrard. Pizarro and Terry both wasted good chances for them.
Im not saying Styles wasnt a joke,he clearly was but when you control and dominate a game but fail to turn the pressure into chances the suckerpunch is inevitable and it wont be the last time this happens.
The main positive for me was the ball retention. It is so much better than last season and we're finally starting to play the way Rafa has always wanted. If you dont give the ball away you dont concede goals and when you have Gerrard and Torres on the pitch you will score and that is why we will be title contenders in May.
But they never actually gave us the suckerpunch did they ? It was handed to them in the most ridiculous manner which is why we feel rightly robbed. Scoring via distance or 'magic' is surely as valid as any other way ? Drobga's one moment of magic decided last year's game at the bridge. One bad crucial decision in match this tight is bound to decide it and did so when its an off the wall one tis fair to say we wos robbed, nothing smalltime about it just accurate.
I think our ball retention is generally good anyway and I can think of games against the chavs (both league games last year) and the mancs were we had excellent retention of the ball and against the latter completely dominated midfield but it was what we did with the ball in the latter third that was lacking which will still need to improve on.
I think our ball retention is generally good anyway and I can think of games against the chavs (both league games last year) and the mancs were we had excellent retention of the ball and against the latter completely dominated midfield but it was what we did with the ball in the latter third that was lacking which will still need to improve on.
Agreed.
Had Styles not had that moment of madness for the penalty, there is no doubt in my mind we would have taken all 3 points. However, at 1-0 we were alway vunerable, and possibly should have taken the onus upon ourselves to go ahead and push for 2-0.
However, this result could have a positive effect. If the players are put into the frame of mind of a "them versus us" mentality, it could end up with us having an even more determinded group of Redmen for the rest of the season...
James
19-08-2007, 10:19 PM
But they never actually gave us the suckerpunch did they ? It was handed to them in the most ridiculous manner which is why we feel rightly robbed. Scoring via distance or 'magic' is surely as valid as any other way ? Drobga's one moment of magic decided last year's game at the bridge. One bad crucial decision in match this tight is bound to decide it and did so when its an off the wall one tis fair to say we wos robbed, nothing smalltime about it just accurate.
I think our ball retention is generally good anyway and I can think of games against the chavs (both league games last year) and the mancs were we had excellent retention of the ball and against the latter completely dominated midfield but it was what we did with the ball in the latter third that was lacking which will still need to improve on.
If you dont think it was a suckerpunch fair enough but I dont like blaming referees on dropped points and Im not starting today because we had enough play to of put the game beyond Chelsea. We didnt because we couldnt create anything around the box. Everything went wide and even though we got some good balls into the box we failed to get on the end of them. Scoring spectacular/magic goals is great (and valid ;)) but they dont happen often against one of the best keepers in the world especially when your star striker is knackered for the last half hour.
My comments on ball retention is more a reflection on the 3 competitive games so far rather than just today. At Anfield we are as good as any team at keeping the ball but away from home we've given it away cheaply over the past few seasons but things are looking up from what Ive seen. Once we add a bit of magic up front we'll be flying.
Ligger
20-08-2007, 07:45 AM
As Rafa said Unbelieveable, but leaving that aside. Thought we dominated them for the majority of the game. The "chosen one" got his tactics wrong again. Torres scored a beauty. Stevie with one leg is 10 times better than Fat Frank and Man Ure lost. Could have been a great day but it was still not bad.
Gerry
20-08-2007, 08:12 AM
Like everyone else am sick today, got back late last night and still have not seen the replay of the "pen" styles was a disgrace yesterday he never let the game flow and gave out cards just for the sake of it !
on a positive note we totally outplayed them and we look alot stronger all over the park and i thought stevie was outstanding yesterday the first half performance from him was as good as i have seen him in years
Chant of the day had to bee the john terrys ma one ! :)
redeagle
20-08-2007, 08:51 AM
speaking of chants...is there a new version of 5 times.
Malzheimer
20-08-2007, 09:19 AM
Refrained from logging in yesterday as I probably would of got myself barred with some of the obscenities used to describe that w#@*ker Styles. He was a disgrace and clearly lost the run of himself after he realised he made the biggest mistake ever right on front of his nose for the peno. And then how can you hold up a card to Essien and then say its for Terry 20 yards away...Muppet!! Would be very disappointed in the powers that be if he was allowed to ref a prem game again, clearly can't handle the pressure.
Its a shame the refs performance overshadowed our own. We outclassed Chelsea for long periods and Fat Frank once again anonymous compared to Stevies dominance in the middle. Thought Pennant was excellent also. Great to see Torres open his account on his Anfield debut, won me a few quid for first goalscorer too :D
Anyone else think Xabi was behind the pace a bit??......thought The Masch would of offered us better protection against their counter attack.
All in all a lot of positives to take from yesterdays game, if we can keep up the high levels of performance against lesser teams as well no doubt we will be challenging for top spot come May.
carragherisgod
20-08-2007, 10:22 AM
Saying we were robbed or cheated is smalltime imo. Clear cut chances were few and far between in the first half and it took a bit of magic to take the lead. After that I cant think of a single decent goal scoring opportunity.
I agree 100%. Looks like more of the same problems from the last three seasons. Great until we concede a goal then we struggle. I can see another frustrating season ahead leaguewise. We should be finishing teams off with our own abilities. Very frustrating.
Styles is an unbelieveably bad referee!
I thought we played well though, and Torres goes was a beast
I agree 100%. Looks like more of the same problems from the last three seasons. Great until we concede a goal then we struggle. I can see another frustrating season ahead leaguewise. We should be finishing teams off with our own abilities. Very frustrating.
I;m not sure how you come to that conclusion based on yesterdays game. We were playing one of the top teams in the lge and we controlled the game for long periods limiting Chelsea to few clear cut chances if any. One of our new purchases produces a bit of magic to give us a lead which is surely what we;ve been missing in the last couple of years. That;s what we paid for - players who can produce goals from nothing in these tight games to give us 1-0 wins rather than 1-0 losses like utd at anfield last season or Chelsea away. But for a very poor decision by Stiles we would very probably gone on to win the game. It's not as if we were playing Derby or someone and allowed them back into the game.
Gerry
20-08-2007, 10:42 AM
I;m not sure how you come to that conclusion based on yesterdays game. We were playing one of the top teams in the lge and we controlled the game for long periods limiting Chelsea to few clear cut chances if any. One of our new purchases produces a bit of magic to give us a lead which is surely what we;ve been missing in the last couple of years. That;s what we paid for - players who can produce goals from nothing in these tight games to give us 1-0 wins rather than 1-0 losses like utd at anfield last season or Chelsea away. But for a very poor decision by Stiles we would very probably gone on to win the game. It's not as if we were playing Derby or someone and allowed them back into the game.
Absolutely spot on daz ! could not agree more about torres and the bit of magic to open things up that we have been lacking for years !
Badman
20-08-2007, 11:11 AM
I can c the vitriol is flowing after yet another scanalous rob style decision - yes a blind dog with a mallet could c it was no peno - but styles had lost control of the game well b4 that incident and it was a slippery slope thereafter. I think he had booked two of the stewards by the end of the game - he makes graham poll look like Collina!!
But to b honest when i had cooled down and looked at the game retrospectively i have to say i was delighted with most aspects of the game.
Firstly a settled 11 more or less, gerard playing superb in the centre, not just offensively but showing defensive maturity also. Secondly we made chelsea look ordinary and passed it around 'em at will - some lovely give and go's and 1 touch passing. Thirdly Torres, even if he's only about 65% fit enough to play a full 90 minutes still showed unreal class for the goal and his turn of pace is incredible 4 such a big man. When he's fully fit he'll be deadly. And finally we exposed chelsea for what they are - and expensively assembled Wimbledon reliant on poxy ref decisions to get a draw - they were happy with a draw and that speaks volumes.
The only negatives (aside from styles, the pillock) were failure to capitalise on the early goal ala villa game, and wasting some good possession and chances - need to convert some of these and quick.
Also thought Alonso was off the pace, and its a woorying trend following on from last year - think Mascherano will get his chance soon.
All in all, i think we've found a new KOP KING and the footie has improved, so i'll be optimistic we're on the right road.
GO ON TORRES U GOOD THING!!!
homer1
20-08-2007, 11:13 AM
Absolutely spot on daz ! could not agree more about torres and the bit of magic to open things up that we have been lacking for years !
It's not just the magic he provided, he tormented the entire defence for the whole match. When was the last time you saw someone get under Terry's skin like that? .... and then to laugh at him - excellent. Wound him up for the afternoon
He's gonna be a superstar for us, he has the ability and seems to like the physical side which is a bonus
speaking of chants...is there a new version of 5 times.
There's a song using the tune alright!!
Thought we should have gotten after that back four more - especially Essien. They were all on yellows.
We lost width when Pennant came off (who must have had a rocket at HT cos the difference was unreal in the 2nd)!
Referees' chief Keith Hackett has confirmed Rob Styles will not take charge of a match next weekend after his performance in the game between Liverpool and Chelsea at Anfield.
Styles controversially awarded Chelsea a penalty which enabled the Blues to equalise Fernando Torres' opener, before causing confusion by brandishing a yellow card at Michael Essien - who had already been booked - but insisting it was John Terry being yellow-carded.
And Hackett, general manager of Professional Game Match Officials Limited, told Sky Sports News: Accountability exists and we, the PGMOL, do expect referees to get big decisions correct.
"On this occasion it was wrong and therefore Rob will not be officiating next weekend."
speaking of chants...is there a new version of 5 times.
Its the john terry's ma song!
Thank god styles has been dropped, the VERY least he deserved!
"This is a rediculous decision, an absolutely rediculous decision"-Andy Gray on the penalty decision!
liverbird!!
20-08-2007, 12:21 PM
With our main man back in the middle, we looked very strong, apart from falling a part after peno award. I would love to see Styles yellow card, because i bet u a million quid, that f**ker booked essien again and then realised that he didn't want to become another graham poll. The Pr**k!!.
Still not sure about Arbeloa a little bit suspect!!
The main thing is we didn't lose the match, and its a point on the board.
reder
20-08-2007, 12:25 PM
There's a song using the tune alright!!
Its about John Terry's ma. I wont post the words as I dont think the mods will thank me for it.
Got back late last night also. Saw the decision, awful but nothing we can do about it now.
Roll on sat and the new north east irish!
Its about John Terry's ma. I wont post the words as I dont think the mods will thanks me for it.
Got back late last night also. Saw the decision, awful but nothing we can do about it now.
Roll on sat and the new north east irish!
and her liking for all things Scouse!
reder
20-08-2007, 12:30 PM
and her liking for all things Scouse!
Spot on ;)
redeagle
20-08-2007, 12:33 PM
lol
Styles is deeply apologetic for his decision and is going to be making contact with Liverpool to apologie according to yer man Keith Hackett, i hope who ever answers that phone tells him where he can go!
Fowler's God
20-08-2007, 01:29 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/6954211.stm - too little too late assholes you cost us 3 points against one of our biggest rivals.
Gerry
20-08-2007, 02:04 PM
does anybody have a link for the goal and "pen" from yesterday as the you tube ones have been taken down for copyright reasons !
megager
20-08-2007, 02:16 PM
Refs make mistakes. Great teams roll with the punches, so lets put it behind us. I think we can take them at the bridge. a win would have been nice, but we need time to settle, torres only had 70 minutes in him yesterday, cant wait until he has 90.
More reason for optimism I think. Lets use this robbery to gee us up. And a 3-0 next week is the best way to do it.
vodkacolly
20-08-2007, 02:22 PM
Refs make mistakes. Great teams roll with the punches, so lets put it behind us. I think we can take them at the bridge. a win would have been nice, but we need time to settle, torres only had 70 minutes in him yesterday, cant wait until he has 90.
More reason for optimism I think. Lets use this robbery to gee us up. And a 3-0 next week is the best way to do it.
I agree. Sometimes its us that gets the good fortune (ghost goal). Really happy with how we played but am hoping we dont continue on from last season not being able to finish teams off. Early days but so far so good.
carragherisgod
20-08-2007, 03:27 PM
I;m not sure how you come to that conclusion based on yesterdays game
It's not just yesterdays game. As I said, I've seen things yesterday that have been evident in the Liverpool team since Rafa joined. Controlling games until we concede a goal. We just can't seem to draw level again. But for a bit of magic from Stevie G against Villa (I don't think that was a free kick by the way. Yet another poor referee decision) we'd have drawn that game. Not good enough. We should be beating teams like Villa easily. Yes Chelsea are a very strong team and favorites but as you said yourself,
We were playing one of the top teams in the lge and we controlled the game for long periods limiting Chelsea to few clear cut chances if any
and yet we still couldn't finish them off.
It's not just yesterdays game. As I said, I've seen things yesterday that have been evident in the Liverpool team since Rafa joined. Controlling games until we concede a goal. We just can't seem to draw level again. But for a bit of magic from Stevie G against Villa (I don't think that was a free kick by the way. Yet another poor referee decision) we'd have drawn that game. Not good enough. We should be beating teams like Villa easily. Yes Chelsea are a very strong team and favorites but as you said yourself,
and yet we still couldn't finish them off.
Is that not the point of having Gerrards, Torres;s and Babels, etc in the team so that when needed, they produce the magic so that we win games we would otherwise have drawn. ?
Ok, so we didn;t score a second yesterday to more or less finish the game, but the point is that frequently against the Chelseas and Uniteds, 1 nils are as good as your going to get and but for a very poor refereeing decision that is probably what we would have got.
We'll probably have to agree to disagree but I came away from yesterdays game feeling pretty optimistic (although extremely disappointed). As I said, had it been Derby or someone and we'd not gone on to get a 2nd or 3rd, I'd probably be a lot more worried.
carragherisgod
20-08-2007, 04:05 PM
Oh don't get me wrong. I saw lots of very good things yesterday. Torres will be great for us. I didn't see enough of Babel to comment on him yet. I just think if we are going to win the league or at least challenge we need to be able to finish off teams. If you look at Man Poo they score one and then go for another. They score two and go for three. Chelsea went behind in every game so far this season and managed to win all but against us. Shows character I feel we lack. I just don't think Rafa's tactics allow for us to even try to do that.
Before the season started my top four were Man Poo, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal. With Man Poo playing so poorly I think they will be swapped with Chelsea which leaves us in first.
If you look at Man Poo they score one and then go for another.
or sometimes just score 1 in 3 games;)
WexRed
20-08-2007, 11:09 PM
does anybody have a link for the goal and "pen" from yesterday as the you tube ones have been taken down for copyright reasons !
Try this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADE_dDWsI90)mate. There's always one that gets through but never in English. It was the same last week when I was wanting to watch Gerrard's free kick again and again and..........
Checkout the commentary sounds like "Mickey Mouse Gerrard" :D but no mistaking the "Anfield Hero, Fernando Torres". Shows the crowd celebration and players' plie up well too. Tell you one thing its a ****ing beautiful goal from a beautiful pass. I think we might be deffo entertained more this year lads, like the look of Babel too.
WexRed
20-08-2007, 11:18 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/6954211.stm - too little too late assholes you cost us 3 points against one of our biggest rivals.
You know reading the piece on the club site of what Hackett and Styles said and apparantly both apologising directly to the club and said it publicly it strikes me as very out of the ordinary that. I was angry when he wouldn't respond after the match but I could understand from the human point of view that he prob realised he fcuked up and would've been hung out to dry.
Gerrard said he should say he's sorry and he has. I doubt Fulham got an apology for their valid goal not given on Saturday so maybe we should try and be be gracious and accept the apology, be the bigger team. Everybody except for Mourinho (he thinks they're naively pure and don't ever dive for gawd's sake) has accepted it was a joke and will go down in infamy, its not like we have to argue the point.
If anything imagine the next time Styles is refing one of our matches, we'd prob get away with just about anything ! And he may be dying to take charge of a chavs back after being accused of bottling into their intimidation. He has a point or two to prove so lets hope we get him at the bridge and he rights his wrongs.
Was thinking its weird actually that we've conceded two pens in two games. Are usually few and far between. Away to Newcastle last year ? Chelsea in Anfield the time they put 4 past us ?
carragherisgod
21-08-2007, 09:16 AM
or sometimes just score 1 in 3 games;)
PMSL. Fair point. lol
my opinion is too little to late read on:-
Rob Styles: I’m so sorry for penalty blunder
Aug 21 2007
Liverpool Echo
ROB STYLES has apologised to Liverpool after admitting he was wrong to award a penalty to Chelsea during the 1-1 draw at Anfield.
The match official has accepted he made a mistake in penalising Steve Finnan and as a result he will not be given a match to referee this weekend.
Styles said: “All referees enter into matches hoping not to make any mistakes but understanding that they may happen, what none of us want is for any mistake to potentially affect the result of the match.
“In mistakenly awarding a penalty, I accept that I may have affected the result of the match and for that I apologise.”
Styles awarded Chelsea a penalty which enabled the Blues to equalise even though Finnan appeared to make no contact with Florent Malouda.
Referees’ chief Keith Hackett said officials had to be accountable for mistakes.
He said: “We have in place systems that will analyse each decision a referee makes.
“Referees are aware of the accountability that exists, as are the managers and players, and we expect referees to get big decisions correct.
“On this occasion it was wrong and therefore Rob will not be officiating next weekend.
“I spoke to Rob and obviously he is extremely disappointed with the decision and admitted he got it wrong. I have left a message with Rafael Benitez to apologise.”
Hackett also confirmed another mistake by a match official when assistant referee Ian Gosling did not award Fulham a late goal at home to Middlesbrough when David Healy clearly forced the ball over the line.
He added: “Clearly the assistant referee has made an error, so he won’t be operating next week for us either.”
The Premier League are to press ahead with trials on goal-line technology being developed by the company Hawkeye.
Hackett said: “It is still in its testing stage but we hope when it is judged to be fail-safe then it will be used.
“Everyone in football recognises that goal-line systems can provide help for the referee to make his decision.”
Meanwhile, Hackett will also ensure there is no repeat of the confusion when Styles appeared to book Michael Essien when instead he was still showing the card to John Terry.
Hackett added: “I’m informed by both the fourth official and Rob he retained the card shown to John Terry then held the card to indicate a direct free-kick, and failed to put the card away. So it was a basic, if you like, admin error as against an error in application of law.
“We’ll look at the video to ensure we don’t get a repeat of that.”
carramagic
21-08-2007, 03:08 PM
Plenty of positives but obviously so disappointing. Thought Torres and Pennant were brilliant as obviously was Stevie. Pennant should have stayed on and would like to see a bit more of him and Babel playing on the wings - so we can really run at tems and stretch defences. Dirk is an unbelievable worker but at times he looks like he isn't up to standard. His touch can be very iffy - hopefully he will start scoring again soon but if not Voronin is making a big push for a starting place
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