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redeagle
16-08-2007, 10:31 AM
Big match and so early aswell.

Drogba looks like he picked up from where he left off. Although I have to say they look a little soft at the back and midfield without essein.

I for once truly believe we can hammer them in the premiership and lets face it, we owe them a few (1-4 at anfield remember :mad:)

reina
finnan cara agger arbeloa
gerrard mach alonso babel
kuyt
Torres

Think Crouch would be worth a go aswell although he struggled a little yesterday, probably due to the heat.

YNWA!!:D

Yoko
16-08-2007, 10:36 AM
They'll be without Terry and Carvalho limped off so we need to get after them.

JOE
16-08-2007, 10:40 AM
I agree with your above team, except for Babel...i think Riise always does well in these games, and I liked by Rafa...If Wright Philips is on the right, he would cause problems for such a young player in Babel...

EDIT:Terry will definitely play...

Gerry
16-08-2007, 10:55 AM
I agree with your above team, except for Babel...i think Riise always does well in these games, and I liked by Rafa...If Wright Philips is on the right, he would cause problems for such a young player in Babel...

EDIT:Terry will definitely play...

Reckon your dead right about terry mate , i will be very surprised if he is not playing !

Dub13
16-08-2007, 11:11 AM
Gerrard may miss Chelsea match after foot injury

Link (http://football.guardian.co.uk/Match_Report/0,,2149562,00.html)

Louise Taylor in the Stade Municipal
Thursday August 16, 2007
The Guardian

Steven Gerrard fears he will miss Liverpool's crucial Premiership match with Chelsea on Sunday and England's friendly against Germany next week after injuring his foot during yesterday's Champions League qualifying tie in the south-west of France.

The midfielder flew back to Merseyside last night with his right foot heavily bandaged having been the victim of a cynical stamp from Toulouse's Achille Emana during the second half ...

Malzheimer
16-08-2007, 11:37 AM
Just posted a skysports link to the same story on a new thread, didn't see this one.

I'd say he will do everything he can to ba back for Sunday, didn't see the stamp myself in the game. Rafa was planning on taking him off anyway when it happened which is the most frustrating thing!

sean
16-08-2007, 11:41 AM
Stevie is down for some serious ankle treatment at Melwood today, fingers and toes crossed he makes it cos this game could prove to be huge in terms of points and mindset come next May.

sean
16-08-2007, 12:31 PM
News just breaking that Stevie has a hairline fracture in his toe, but will play on Sunday

Malzheimer
16-08-2007, 01:08 PM
good news, hope he's near %100 though and it doesn't mean he's going to make it worse. Sacrificing him for one game if he was then to miss 6 wouldn't be worth it imo.

redeagle
16-08-2007, 01:15 PM
good news, hope he's near %100 though and it doesn't mean he's going to make it worse. Sacrificing him for one game if he was then to miss 6 wouldn't be worth it imo.

agreed

pity aswell as he is in real good form.

megager
16-08-2007, 04:16 PM
A huge game for us, lose and we are already 6 points behind chelsea. I think a draw is the best we will achieve here. Would be happy with that.

Yoko
16-08-2007, 04:24 PM
Maureen said something interesting last night. Something along the lines of 7 points from our opening 3 games would be a good return. Looking for a draw??

sean
16-08-2007, 05:11 PM
Maureen said something interesting last night. Something along the lines of 7 points from our opening 3 games would be a good return. Looking for a draw??

I would take whatever he says with a pinch of salt. Rafa came out and said that Sundays game won't decide our season, which could also be interpreted as being happy with a draw. Managers can talk all they want, but in the end its the 11 v 11 on the pitch who will ultimately decide the outcome. And ours are better. So we're gonna win :D

peterk
17-08-2007, 01:43 PM
Big game alright. Big players are needed.

It'll be close I'd say, maybe the odd goal will settle it. Have to be wary of them on the break because Malouda and Wright-Phillips will give them pace and width. I'd like to see Babel play to give their wide players something to worry about. A lot people will be saying how important centre midfield will be and this may be true but not in the usual way midfield is important - the last few games against Chelsea have seen a lot of floated balls up to Crouch & Drogba so the importance of midfield could be in getting the knock-downs from the front men and not in controlling the pace of the game as you'd expect...

Being at Anfield and our 1st home league game I can see us dominating the opening 10mins or so and perhaps getting an early goal.

It's important to remember that it's not the be-all-and-end-all if we don't win. Utd's record against top teams last year was 50/50 (2W, 2D, 2L) so I'm not too sure about some people saying "we have to beat top 4 if we realistically want to win the league". It'll certainly help the mentality of the team to beat the likes of Chelsea, Utd and Arsenal on a consistent basis but I don't think the result will shape our season...

2-1 Liverpool YNWA

Westlake
19-08-2007, 02:57 PM
Holy ****! Have yis seen the starting line up! Looks like one hell of a pool team!

Torres and Kuyt up front

Gerrard, Alonso, Pennant and Rise midfield

Reina in goals (duh)

And I think Agger, Carragher, Finnan and Arbeloa

I'm off to watch the match then! See yis!

JOE
19-08-2007, 04:04 PM
What a goal, the way he continued to control the ball on his right foot...class...

JMurray#8
19-08-2007, 04:57 PM
Rob Stiles needs to be shot!!! What a disgrace.

gav003
19-08-2007, 04:58 PM
never felt as cheated in all my life- they couldn't even muster a chance in the whole game an absolute joke- Styles should not ref another PL game- SHOCKING

Alex Raisbeck
19-08-2007, 05:01 PM
Stiles you plonker, we were robbed there. I cant even blame chavski for it, it was downright stupidity from the ref, does he want to be the new Graham Poll or something?, cos he is going the right way about it.

On another note, we look very good dont we, ok we should have got a second, but in tight games like that one could (and should) have easily been enough.

Dub13
19-08-2007, 05:05 PM
I hope there are some ramifications for Styles after this performance.I hope these two points dropped don't come back to haunt us.

sean
19-08-2007, 09:27 PM
I hope there are some ramifications for Styles after this performance.I hope these two points dropped don't come back to haunt us.

At the end of the day there is no point being too bitter. I'd like to think that bad descisions today will turn into favourable decisions as the season goes on - remember the spotter we got against Sheff Utd on the first day last season - Man U certainly get favourable decisions over the season, and I'm sure our forwards will definitely get an undeserved spotter or two over the course of the season if they continue to get into the box like they did today

Dub13
19-08-2007, 10:00 PM
I understand your point Sean and would agree in most circumstances but in this case Styles was no more than 5ft away at some point the refs bed calls have to be punished.

sean
19-08-2007, 10:10 PM
I understand your point Sean and would agree in most circumstances but in this case Styles was no more than 5ft away at some point the refs bed calls have to be punished.

I don't know about his bed calls being punished, but I would agree if you meant bad calls being punished :D:D:D

Up until today, I always thought Styles was a fairly decent referee, and even thought he was more deserving of a place at the World Cup in 2006 than Poll was, and that was before Poll went a bit loopers with 3 yellow cards before sending a player off.

The Premier League have a policy of rating their referees, and come the end of the season a league table is drawn up where the worst performing referee's are demoted to the Championship. I doubt Styles will be demoted to the Championship next season, and will end up learning and making up for todays blunders. But I do agree with you also that a ref who is only 5 feet away and makes a blunder like he did today should be suitably punished. Who knows, maybe we will see him in charge of a Leeds Utd game next week.

peterk
20-08-2007, 10:49 AM
Styles has always been one of the worst referees in the Premiership in my eyes. Just like Graham Poll he is an ego-maniac who craves the attention and limelight of being on a Premiership pitch. As Andy Gray (who I normally don't listen to or agree with) said last night in Last Word - it came as no surprise that we were talking about Styles at the end of the game. I thought that when Poll retired we wouldn't be dwelling too much on refs who think they're the reason 40,000 turn up at a stadium but I had forgotten about Rob "Rat-Face" Styles.

Howard Webb is the best ref in league and should be given more high profile games. The fact he was 4th official at Sunderland-Spurs, where his skills were vital in holding up the substitutes board, on opening day seems to suggest the problem is at the top with those who make decisions. Styles will go smug and unpunished.

SUPERFAN
20-08-2007, 11:28 AM
remember the spotter we got against Sheff Utd on the first day last season

yeah and do you know who the Referee was that awarded it?
Rob Stiles!

Dub13
20-08-2007, 11:52 AM
Apparently Stiles has been dropped from next weekend's matches.

Dub13
20-08-2007, 11:58 AM
Link (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=455023&cc=5739)

Referees' chief Keith Hackett has confirmed Rob Styles will not take charge of a match next weekend after his performance in the game between Liverpool and Chelsea at Anfield on Sunday.

Styles controversially awarded Chelsea a penalty which enabled the Blues to equalise after Fernando Torres' opener, before causing confusion by brandishing a yellow card at Michael Essien - who had already been booked - but insisting it was John Terry being booked.

And Hackett, general manager of Professional Game Match Officials Limited, told Sky Sports: 'Accountability exists and we, the PGMOL, do expect referees to get big decisions correct.

'On this occasion it was wrong and therefore Rob will not be officiating next weekend.'

peterk
20-08-2007, 12:34 PM
Link (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=455023&cc=5739)

Good news, at least there has been some action taken and he doesn't go unpunished...although if I screwed up at work I don't think I'd get an extra day off as punishment!

yodabenitez
20-08-2007, 07:30 PM
Wasn't it Ray Houghton who remarked that Stiles gets up in the morning, looks in the mirror and wounders how the other seven wonders of the world are getting on......:)

sean
20-08-2007, 09:00 PM
Wasn't it Ray Houghton who remarked that Stiles gets up in the morning, looks in the mirror and wounders how the other seven wonders of the world are getting on......:)

Think he was referring to Graham Poll

syngerdub
24-08-2007, 04:41 PM
Just getting away from the whole ref thing, I was thinking back to the goal Torres scored. To me it was actually as close to a "perfect goal" as you can get.

From the moment Gerrard saw the ball coming to him, until it crept in off the post: every move was deliberate, there was no luck involved, none of the opposition did anything particularly wrong, it was just a series of brilliantly executed actions. Control by Gerrard, perfectly weighted and curled pass, speed and control by Torres, great shimmy and a perfectly placed shot on goal.

Hope there's lots more to come!