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Your thoughts for next season

Discussion in 'Transfer Forum' started by CHARMAC, Mar 27, 2012.

  1. CHARMAC

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    Now that our season is all but over, What changes would you like to see happening at the club this summer be it managerial or playing staff, do you think Kenny deserves another season? which players do you think will go and which players should be pushed,and what players would like to bring in.

    Here's my twopence worth, first of all Kenny Dalglish and Steve Clarke have to be given the time to finish what they started, I know that there has been some really disappointing results lately but overall the team has played some excellent football and these things happen when you're rebuilding a team. so the management gets the [​IMG] for at least another season.

    On the players to go, I think J Cole, Aquilani, Pacheco, Aurelio, Maxi, and Eccleston will definitely move on, we should sell Kuyt, Adam, and Carroll and use the money for our new signings, Carragher should be integrated into the coaching side of things, and I think Pepe Reina needs a kick up the arse too but I wouldn't sell him

    The players I like to see come in are Cavani, Lucas Moura, and Iker Muniain ;)
    what are your wishes for the summer?
     
  2. Roll on 19

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    Think Kuyt, Cole, Aquilani, Pacheco, Aurelio, Maxi, and Eccleston will all leave.
    Adam, Carroll and Downing should get another year to prove they can be the players we thought.
    Agree that I'd like to see Carra move into a coaching role.
    Wisdom and Sterling, making the move to Melwood permanently.
    In an ideal world with blank cheques, I'd want Hazard, Cavani, Lavezzi and Martinez.
    Dont think we've much chance of any of them tbh, so I'd be hoping KK and DC will be doing the hard sell to players like Soldado of Valencia, convince Tello not to sign a new deal at Barca (doubt theres any hope of that either), or Affelay even though hes only back from injury as I think his playing time will be limited by Tello if he stays there.
    Iker Muniain I would very much like to see arriving and we might have a shout of getting him.
    regardless of their names, I want a good finisher, right winger/midfielder and a carbon copy of Stevie G just 10 years younger please :D
     
  3. twixfix

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    First thing I would do is a complete overhaul in relation to PR as that has been a complete disaster. I would look to move Carra,kuyt maxi on as well as players out on loan.I would also look at the fitness side of things we seem to loose alot more
    goals than we score late on and some of players just dont look as fit as they should.
    I think we need a keeper to challenge Reina but wouldnt be priority. One more CB at least 2 wingers (Munian would be my first choice too). I think we need another striker aswell as keeping what we have. If we got all the above I would then look at a top CM and sell Spearing but I dont see that happening. We need to look at quality this time round, the academy players are getting closer so no need to spend big on potential. The team still lacks creatity out wide for me so this must be fixed once and for all.
    I would look to use players like sterling and shelvey more this season so we can see how far off they really are. I still think we need to add to the squad more than take away from it. To be honest I think the next 8 games will decide Kenny's faith and he should be judged then.I hope he gets the team playing and gets another season.I honestly think the net spend will be somewhere around 30m.
     
  4. djdwainec

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    I'd agree with all this dont know much about muniain though, just as a matter of interest though how would you see the team lining up? isn't lucas an attacking midfielder? We also need another strong centre back as back up to agger.

    What do you think of check tiote off newcastle? would be hard to get though i'd imagine


    ---------Reina------------
    Kelly Agger Skrtel Enrique
    ----Lucas L Tiote--------
    --Gerrard Lucas M Suaraz---
    --------Cavani----------
     
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    OUT:
    Doni: think he wants to leave anyway.
    Aurelio: only IF we can find a replacement LB.
    Maxi: As much as i like him I dont think he'll be needed.
    Dirk: Your time is spent my son, lets hope you can finish off with an FA Cup medal.
    Carra: push him into the coaching side but i think he should be 4th choice CB.
    Adam: I just dont think he's good enough, one Hollywood pass per game isnt enough.
    Danny Wilson: Just not good enough either.
    Aquilani: I love his type of creative player but he's obviously not needed at LFC
    Joe Cole: Same as Aquilani.
    Steven Darby: Not Good enough.
    Pacheco: He wont fit in in LFC.
    Gulasci: Not needed at LFC.

    IN:
    Adam Johnson: We need a RIGHT winger, to keep Downing on the left.
    Iker Munian: Convert him into an attacking midfielder
    Christian Tello: Doubt he'll be our bak up striker but its worth a shot.
     
  6. CHARMAC

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    My squad

    Reina
    Doni
    Jones
    Johnson
    Flanagan
    Kelly
    Skrtel
    Agger
    Coates
    Enrique
    Robinson
    Spering
    Lucas
    Gerrard
    Shelvey
    Henderson
    Lucas Moura
    Teixeira
    Suso
    bellamy
    Downing
    Sterling
    Muniain
    Cavani
    Suaraz
     
  7. graham

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    First and foremost we need a goal scorer.
    Someone like Cavani would be ideal.
    I'd spend the whole budget on a expensive proven goal scorer. If we have the funds and can convince someone to sign.

    In other areas I think we've been unlucky with injuries this season.
    If he decides he needs to fill other positions then he should sell to buy.
     
  8. Ron1892

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    Personally i wouldnt give many of them a summer holiday at all, As some of them have been shit this season, and havent looked bothered what so ever. Kenny can make all the excuses for them, But behind closed doors id imagine he is seething with them.

    Personally Id get rid of Doni, Jones, Move Carra out of the team, Adam, Kuyt, Maxi, Cole, Aqau and I am not going to go into the reserves etc.

    Id love to see some one with a bit of bite in Midfield.Some one who is not afraid to put a tackle in. Who I dont Know.

    Id like to see a Right winger. Who i dont know and dont care.
    A striker who can put the ball in the back of the neat.I Raved about Ba last season(And got laughed at) I also mentioned Cisse at the start of the season too and he has performed well for Newcastle.

    Over all i dont think there will be too much money spent as i dont think we have a endless pot of gold.
     
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    Would love to see Adam Johnson join, realistic target too...

    Cavani I would love, but I don't see him joining us... maybe Suarez could tempt him?

    Hopefully Coates get's a bit more confidence/games next season as Agger/Skrtel will never stay fit haha :)
     
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    Shelvey could be your man with a bit of bite for midfield if given a chance and I'm sure Alan Pardew reads all your post Ron ;)
     
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    Hahha Yeah I am a bit of a scout i must say. :D

    Shelvey could be the man, But i was thinking more of some one in the Lucas mould.I don't think Shelvey is going to get much time, if we are been honest.I really like him as a player and i think he has a great engine on him, but i don't think he will be given the chance.Just a hunch i have.
     
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    shelvey should be given more game time than henderson IMO he is a better player
     
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    Personally i would have liked to see Both Players eased into the team Gently over a period of time.
     
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    Ba for 7 million. Cardozo from Benfica knows where the goal is. We need a right winger who can score and create goals and a quick and strong defensive midfielder to compete with Lucas
     
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    Could be shot down here but i don't think much more is needed! We should look to promote sterling and wisdom to the first team squad, maybe try and loan flanno and robinson for a season to a prem team.

    Obviously we need a goalscorer. I think a left sided player would be decent. Armero could be good to play left wing or back. This could help enriques game also (he needs a rest IMO). Lucas will be like a new signing when he is back but i've had that injury - you're a different player when you come back - hopefully he returns as strong as ever.

    I think this is Dirk's final season and we need a naturally pacey proven winger as Hendo is no right sided midfielder. He'll find his feet in the middle over the next couple of seasons.

    All this season's signings will have a full year under their belt also. Only one that i can't see improving is Adam. Just seems to lack that yard of pace for our high tempo passing and pressing game.

    We are always linked with these great exciting names for the summer but when push comes to shove we have to be realistic and realise we won't get most (if any) of them. We just don't have the firepower without champions league to attract the very best...that's why we'll have to settle on second and third choice targets.

    Maybe another CB is needed - they are like strikers in a squad - you need 4 top players. I think Coates will be immense in the future though.

    Future is bright with right additions...
     
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    I wouldn't change the manager at this stage but if current form continues then that would be open for debate.

    With regards the players, I'd sell the following:
    Adam: not because I don't like him but I don't think he has the natural fitness to used sparingly, which is about his level.
    Agger: Get him fit and cash in your chips. As soon as night follows day he will be injured again next season.
    Carroll: We're not playing him and like Adam, he's not naturally fit. Don't think he's good enough anyway.
    Wouldn't sell anyone else unless (apart from those we tried to shift last year) they wanted out, I'm nearly sure Maxi and Aurelio are out of contract so that's the end of them. Kuyt, Carra, Spearing, Shelvey, Henderson, Bellamy, Kelly or Johnson will make the numbers to a decent standard.

    I'd buy a left back as cover for Enrique, a center back to replace Agger and 3 attackers, 1 out and out right winger. I'm not that up to speed on the foreign players anymore so I hope Commolli has done his homework. Of the ones I know I like Ribery and Robben, 1 of which may be available, I'd take either in a heart beat, only seen Munian twice and he looks quality. Pedro seems to be down the pecking order at Barca, he'd be welcome also. Hamsik of Napoli would be my top choice in the summer, reminds me a little of McManaman. Also like Llorente.

    Reina
    Kelly Skrtel Coates Enrique
    Gerrard Lucas Henderson
    Hamsik Llorente Suarez

    Subs
    Doni, Johnson, Carra & new CB, new LB, Spearing, Downing, Bellamy, Kuyt, Sterling, Shelvey, Flanagan.

    I'd imagine Llorente and Hamsik would cost about 50m, the rest could be balanced against sales.

    Finally I keep Aqualani if Milan take the piss, could be useful for games like Saturday just gone.
     
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    I'd keep Adam as a squad player, he isn't going to have a great sell on value and we got him for nothing. I would be satisfied to have him and wee Jay as our back up centre mids to Lucas and a real ball player. The dream would be a Schweinsteiger, Javi Martinez or take Alonso home if they win the double and Maureen fooks off. Maybe a more realistic option in this position would be one of the Swansea boys Leon Britton or Joe Allen who can pass and move a ball quickly. Although as we've found out one good season with a promoted team doesn't mean you can step up to LFC level.

    I love Agger and we are a much better team with him in the side, him and Skrtel have the makings of a great partnership. But is 20-30 games a season enough from your first choice centre half? Probably not. So maybe if the right man became available in the market then this could be the right option. Can't think of a realisitic good ball playing centre half off the top of my head. The dream would be Thiago Silva off Milan but no chance there.

    We could do with an attacking player that plays anywhere between the lines, like Silva or Nasri. My pick here would be Lavezzi from Napoli. He will get goals and with him, Suarez and Gerrard playing off a top front man then I can't see how we wouldn't be flying. Munain a good shout too and I had a dream last night he was going mental celebrating with the kop so this is a definite runner. Little Dyer off Swansea looks class every time I see them but once again would be a risk.

    I would love to replace Downing with Adam Johnson but never going to happen.

    If nowhere near any of the above happens in the summer and we broke the bank for a top class centre forward who knows where the net is, then I would sleep happy at night. Any of LLorente, Soldado, Cavani or Higuain. I would break the bank for one of these 4.

    Out the door: Dirk, Cole, Aqua, Maxi.
    Then if some quality replacements are brought in: Downing, Carroll and Agger. I wouldn't mind giving any of these 3 another season though to prove themselves.

    Reading back over the above post and responding to the OP, my hopes for the season are fairly ambitious. I don't think we will be given any more than 50m net spend. I also think we will find it very hard to attract the type of world class quality that we need to bridge the gap in the league. For Kennys sake him, Clarke, Keen and Commolli, need to have a better summer in the transfer market than last year for us to improve. However I think if we had this goalscorer this year, we would be easily challanging Arsenal and Spurs in the league. So its tweaks, rather than a massive overhaul really imo, we are not far away from being a top side.

    That was a fairly long winded way of saying a goalscorer/finisher will be the most important player Kenny will ever buy, I just hope we can attract a top, proven name. This is my one hope for next season.

    _____Reina_______
    Glen Agger Skrtel Jose
    ____Lucas Martinez___
    Suarez Gerrard Lavezzi
    _____Soldado________

    Leaves a squad of Bellamy, Henderson, Flangan, Kelly, Coates, Shelvey, Sterling, Adam, Spearing, Carroll, Downing (and a better back up keeper than Doni who will keep Pepe on his toes).

    Get the top young players out on loan to championship sides if not going to be involved in first team enough.
     
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    i think a goal poacher is our priorety up front with saurez carragher moved on or move to coaching move agger on hes to prone to injury or get a good backup plus thers the usual deadwood to be moved on all been mentioned allready and imo we need to concentrate on the league next season use the eufa cup and other cups to blood younger players the premiereship must be the uppermost next season
     
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    Like everyone else I would like a striker who can put the ball in the back of the net. Ideally Cavani or Huuntelaar but I wouldn't imagine they would be realistic. Soldado from Valencia could be an option due to their financial constraints but I'd say Champions League clubs would be after him if he became available. With a bit of luck Kenny and Commoli pull an unknown quantity out of the bag similar to what Utd did with Hernandez.

    Id also like us to add a bit more pace into the side. Tello from Barcelona looks like a good player and apparently he is out of contract in a year so if we can get in early and offer Barcelona a decent fee and convince Tello that could be a great signing. Adam Johnson would be another player I'd like us to sign but I'd say City would want a decent fee for him and if he did become available we all know Spurs would be sniffing around him. Failing that I think Junior Hoilett could be an option, he is young and is on a free so if after a couple of seasons it hasnt worked out for him he has a resale value.Seydou Keita is another player I think we can get this summer, he is out of contract and could be handy addition to our midifield.

    A goalkeeper to challenge Reina and a left back to provide some competition for Enrique would also be on my wishlist but not as high in the priority list as others.

    What I think these Guys may cost
    Striker-???
    Tello-10 million
    Adam Johnson-20 million
    Hoilett- Free
    Keita- Free
     
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    Hoilett wouldn’t be on a free unless he moved to a club outside on England & Wales. Compensation would be due (like Chelsea with Sturridge). He’s a player I like but again more of a left sided option.

    I’m really not an Adam Johnson fan. Obviously a good player but something about him I just dont like. He’s not intelligent enough and his inability to cross a ball makes him too predictable. Dont get me wrong – the squad would be stronger with him in it but just not a player I’d target.
     

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