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Joao Carlos Teixeira

Discussion in 'Player Performances' started by Clerk, Jan 18, 2012.

  1. Clerk

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    Liverpool agree £1m deal to sign Sporting Lisbon teenager João Carlos Teixeira

    • Carlos moving to Anfield after impressing in NextGen series
    • Sporting selling youngster to help ease financial issues


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/18/liverpool-sporting-lisbon-joao-carlos

    http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/131715.html?CMP=OTC-RSS

    http://www.nesn.com/2012/01/report-...-on-anfield-move-lfc-agrees-to-fee-video.html

    Next Gen
    Pool 0 v Sporting Lisbon 3
    http://www.nextgenseries.com/Fixtur...Wed-17-08-11/Liverpool-vs-Lisbon/Match-Report
     
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    although its good we are bringing in talent for the future we really need to concentrate on bringing in a striker who'll start instead of these youngsters
     
  3. Clerk

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    I'd buy the full front 6 of that Lisbon team at £1m a pop in a heartbeat, they were absolutely sublime in the Nextgen, hammered a class Liverpool team twice. In the 0-3 game that Lisbon won at Anfield the Liverpool team included Coady, Sterling & Wisdom, not to mention Robinson and Shelvey. Although to be fair it could have been 3-3 but Lisbon won the home leg 5-1, so 8-1 on aggregrate !! This lad played in both legs. The lad Betinho ( Coelho ) was absolute class as well, some of the goals they scored were absolutely savage.
     
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    Getting sick of buying youngsters, the academy is there for a reason. If anything bringing in a player like this will be bad for the likes of young sterling and suso who should be near our first team. Unless he is close enough to getting into the first team.
     
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    I would hope the £1million mentioned is subject to lots of add on's.

    What I want to know is will he be cup tied should we be playing Sporting in the NextGen final? :)

    That first goal against Liverpool at Anfield was his only goal in the 6 NextGen games. Despite playing 5 of the 6 group games. In those 5 games Sporting scored 16 while he was on the pitch.
     
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    Disagree, if there good enough they are good enough mate, we have to stop pampering youths, competition is exactly what they need. I maintain we have NEVER been bitten in the hole by any academy players we have released, well in the past 10 or so years anyway. Its not that people come in its just that there not as good as we want/hope them to be.

    craig Lindfield, Neil Mellor, Adam Hamill to name but a few.
     
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    Sterling is getting nearer the first team but is still not ready for the rough and tumble of the Premier League. He was in full training kit on the pitch last Saturday at Anfield warming up with the 1st team although not named on the bench.

    Suso is definitely not near the 1st team yet. He is also suspended at the moment but was in Spain this week with U19's national squad at a training camp.
     
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    Well what do you do then? let them play in the reserve league or loan them out to get some experience. Barcelona play young players 18,19,20 most weeks and pep has has given debut's to 25 youth players from the Barcelona b team in the past 3 years. I know you cant just through young players in any game but still think there needs to be way of doing it. remember we just also spent the same money on that kid from wycombe few weeks back also.
     
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    Your points are very valid. Mentioning Barcelona is exactly though what Liverpool are aiming to emulate. It is only the very recent recruits of Pep Segura and Rudolfa Borell under Frank McPartland that has started Liverpool to teach the one coaching system through all the different under age groups of Liverpool.

    Rafa Benitez advocated for many years that the system needed to be changed in England. He was right of course and such thoughts appeared on the timelines of both Tony Barett and Rory Smith today on twitter. Barcelona have a 'B' team in the second tier of Spanish football. They are 3rd in that league at the moment but no matter what happens their team can not be promoted. A similar system here would be of massive benefit to the Liverpool academy.

    Bringing through players from the youth set up has been difficult as well for that other team down the East Lancs whereas our nearest neighbours across Stanley Park have brought through more young players because of having less opportunities in the transfer market.

    I am always an optimistic supporter maybe at times to much so but I really believe we have reason to be optimistic for the future with all the talents that have been recruited to the Liverpool Academy as well as players who are contracted to Liverpool but who are at moment plying/learning the game abroad such as Vijay Bijev and Nacho Bueno.

    Loaning out players has been of benefit to Jonjo Shelvey but I think he would have been good enough to have got some games if he was not loaned out whereas I think the opposite in relation to Nathan Ecclestone, Danny Wilson, & David Amoo.
     
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    The Barca academy is basically a business model as well as producer of great players. Pep has been blessed with a team so good he can easily handle experimenting every now and again. Since Pep took over at Barca the most common scoreline has been 5-0, that is a great position to be in to blood youngsters, many I suspect they know won't make it but every game they can give them in a Barca shirt adds a few hundred thousand to their transfer price. Without knowing the facts I'd guess loads of them 25 players have featured no more than twice, 2 games with Messi and sell them to Blackburn for 2m, good business if you can get it.

    Maybe one day LFC will be in that position but it looks awhile off yet.
     
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    Spot on Bobby and that Eric Abidal did OK tonight as well :D
     
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    I hear ya barking lads..
     
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    I can't see how recruiting excellent youth players is bad for the academy. It's exactly what Barcelona did with Pedro and Iniesta. The better the players in your academy the better chance of one of them making it to the first team.

    If sterling, suso, morgan etc are good enough they will make it. Personally I have no preference whether sterling or Carlos make it as long as the club is succesful.
     
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    I think it's a good idea snapping up these young promising players arsenal have been doing it for years and it seems to have worked for them let's hope they develop well and and give us quality players for years to come
     
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    Its hardly worked for arsenal now to be fair
     
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    Their problem is they can't hang on to the lads... Arsenal is a training ground for youngsters... and when they start to shine... they leave...

    As long as Liverpool keep their talent... it will work!
     
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    arsenal have not won much lately but they have still produced some good young players which they signed from other clubs at an early age.
    When they did move on arsenal made a huge profit
     
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    I can see the view point of the people who say they are frustrated, but surely the frustration should come from not buying first team players rather then the fact that we are buying youth players? The more talent coming up trough the the club the better after all. now is a great time to be investing in our youth system, the more talent that's there, the more of them that could make it into the first team. The Barca-esc system we seem to be adopting defiantly wont do us any harm going forward!
     
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    Good bit of business but we need a striker ASAP!!
     
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    you can see what i mean now after Saturday against bolton, instead of bringing on dirk kuyt who played more passes back than forward, it would have be nice to bring on some youngster with abit of flare who would of took on a few defenders.
     

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