just reading bout this today and listening to george hook about whats the feeling on it in general?the fines for non payment are just madness and probably designed to scare people into paying.its to pay for local services but the state meath county council leave stamullen in im verging on not paying it
If people pay it it will just be the start of it. That will go up and up and up. Only thing to do is all stick together and don't pay and they can't do a thing.
Heard the end of a piece on the radio coming home this evening... apparently there are already three TDs boycotting this new tax and trying to get mass support from the public for a national boycott - sorry not sure who the three TDs are, but no doubt it'll be getting more publicity.
They can afford not to pay if they get fined, probleam is the average person out there will be scared and think it will be easier to go and pay. I don't think any tds should get a pat on the back for not paying it, maybe they should turn around and say that if anyone their constituency gets fined for not paying, then they will pay the fine for them, yeah like that will happen. Personally I won't be paying it.
i wont pay it or i wont pay the fine ive paid stamp duty on my house to the tune of 9k so ive paid my house hold tax for 90 years Id go to jail rather than pay it
If it's not going to be paid they will find something else to tax like your PC or your car park space at work, the money has to come from somewhere. Really every man woman and child should take to the streets and bring the whole country to a standstill. Look what happened in the UK when they tried to introduce the Poll Tax.
Many many people wont pay this unjust tax.It will be intresting to see if the non-payment campaign gathers momentum.
i'll never pay that tax, unless i get my stamp duty back, at this rate no body will have any money left in 5 years.
from replies here and nosing on boards and the texts george hook got if the feeling holds up woth people therell be thousands if not hundreds of thousands not paying
The TD's are from the United Left Alliance (ULA) - Clare Daly, Joe Higgins and Richard Boyd Barrett. There is a battle on the left of Irish politics between the ULA parties, SF and Labour and various left wing independents. This boycott by these TD's is as much about politics as it is about the household charge. Just to get back to the point, we spend approx 50bn euro a year and we take in about 33bn euro so this tax was a condition of the EU/IMF deal.
Same thing was said about the bin tax, a great little country for talking but not so great at running amok.
I built me on house had to get me own water put in my own septic tank. We dont even have a refuse collection. The road floods at two points so much so its impassable at times. last year they never cleared the snow off the road let alone grit it. NO F**KING WAY AM i paying that tax
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/1215/breaking5.html A number of Opposition TDs have said they will not pay the €100 household charge to be introduced in January. Taoiseach Enda Kenny and Socialist Party TD Joe Higgins clashed in the Dáil over the introduction of the charge yesterday. The charge comes into effect for up to 1.6 million households on January 1st, after the Local Government (Household Charge) Bill passed all stages last night. Mr Kenny claimed the campaign against bin charges led by Mr Higgins in 2003 “led directly to the privatisation of bin servicesâ€. He made the allegation after Mr Higgins claimed the Taoiseach would become “the Captain Boycott of austerity in this country, imposing the will of the IMF-EU and bleeding our peopleâ€, referring to the 1880 controversy about the British land agent Charles Boycott in Co Mayo. He also claimed the Taoiseach was involved in a “disgraceful campaign of intimidation of threatening householders with fines of €2,500 for non-registrationâ€, which he said would be resisted. Socialist Party TD Clare Daly and Independent TD Thomas Pringle have both said they would not pay the charge, nor register for it and encouraged others not to pay. Dublin South Central Sinn Féin TD Aengus Ó Snodaigh announced in the Dáil yesterday he would not pay the charge, but he would not encourage others to do so without them knowing the full consequences of their action. He criticised the commitment to “spend €1 billion installing water meters†while failing to invest in preventing water leaks of up to 40 per cent of total supply. Mr Kenny staunchly defended the €100 charge, insisting the money was necessary to fund public services. “This is a €2 charge a week for vital services,†and the funds would go toward “fire services and libraries and street cleaningâ€. These “are all funded by the exchequer up until now and it’s necessary that citizens understand that they can make a contribution of €2 for these servicesâ€. Minister for the Environment Phil Hogan, who introduced the legislation, had warned that those who did not pay would be pursued, and face a possible penalty of up to €2,500 with debts levied on their estate in the case of death. Mr Kenny said the €160 million expected income was based on the number of properties in the State. There were waivers including for those on mortgage interest supplement, on housing supports or rent supplement, and those in certain unfinished housing estates. However, Mr Higgins criticised the charge, claiming it was common knowledge it will “grow quickly to €1,000†under pressure from the EU and IMF. “This will be met with a massive campaign of opposition from Donegal to Wexford, from Kerry right back to Dublin,†Mr Higgins said, adding that most local authorities had privatised their bin services before the Dublin protest. Mr Kenny said: “I always thought that Kerry people understood that there’s nothing free in this world, that when you turn on the tap, somebody’s got to pay to put the water in there in the first place.†Mr Higgins said “people in Kerry, Mayo and Dublin understand that nothing is free because they pay for it alreadyâ€. The Dublin West TD said the Taoiseach was due in March next year to pay €1.2 billion to a single unsecured bondholder in the former Anglo Irish Bank. “You could keep €200 million, give it to the local authorities and give people a break.†Mr Kenny said the range of people excluded from the charge is “extensiveâ€. He added that budget decisions meant there was no change in income tax rates for workers and 330,000 workers had been taken out of the universal social charge. But People Before Proft TD Joan Collins said “the Government is giving them back €4 a week and then taking €2 a week off themâ€.
I've no intention at all in paying this tax, Fcuk them I'm drawing a line in the sand I feel sorry for anyone who has bought a house in last few years, they were screwed by the greedy *******s of property developers, who have caused this problem along with the greedy bankers charging exorbitant and inflated peices and plunged a generation of young couples into massive debt probably for the rest of their live while the greed cnuts have now disappeared into the woodwork when the shit hit the fan PS : I have a good idea, if they want a fair property tax, ask everyone for a Euro an acre, if you have 1/4 acre you pay 25 cents, if you have 1000 acres you pay a 1000 euro
You can't be doing that all the farmers will never shut up about it , but it would be like the EU paying the taxes because of all the grants they get