See this stat 95 chances created. 9 converted ....in 8 games. Barcelona have created 107 chances in 9 games (7+2) and converted 33 Mancs have created 105 chances in 8 games and converted 24. Got me thinking about another article I read on Suarez at Ajax that his conversion rate was only 10% and shots on target only 25% And with Gerrard back on corners IMO we could say conversion rates are going to cost us quite significantly Separate issue but I'd like to see Gerrard not taking corners and Suarez and the team been a lot more clinical Wondering your thoughts on why we are so wasteful Is it were so reliant on Suarez ?
We should have 21 points and be already putting the frighteners up the rest , For me we need another clinical striker playing along side Suarez and hopefully that's Carroll Plus Suarez improving his conversion rate , has scored some fanastic goals from very acute angles which makes me confused why he doesn't score at least twice as many times bringing his rate up to a more average 20% Fantastic player who IMO needs a clinical striker along side him game in game out
I'd be more worried if we weren't creating chances but our failure to take the chances has definitely cost us this season. Sunderland,Stoke and yesterday should all have been wins. 2 points instead of 9 is obviously going to hurt you. Suarez can obviously improve on his conversion rate but he can get away with his ratio because of the amount of chances he gets. Im suprised by his rate in holland but with the amount of goals he scored over there he must have had a phenomenal amount of chances. Personally I think it's important that other players step up to the mark and start notching a few to take some of the burden off Suarez.
that's very interesting, of course with Gerrard back he'll start banging them in. I suppose in terms of finishing the front 6 are to date Suarez - superb Carroll - off form Downing - not producing Henderson - needs time to settle, missed a few, getting into position though. ( Kuyt ) - not a clinicial or consistent scorer, tends to score in streaks. Bizarrely his goal scoring record in the Champions League is very good !! Lucas - getting about 1 a season Adam - a real goal threat ( Bellamy ) - getting no game time !!! bit confused about that. In my opinion you could certainly make the case that we need a top class goal poacher. Suarez does unbelievable amount of work outside the box so it's well doable. You could certainly make the case that we need a top class goal hanger.
thats some stat we need to start putting our chances away im just thinking of the stoke game when we had 22 shots
At least we are creating chances! BUT..we dont have an out and out poacher, suarez is not a finisher, he'll create bucket loads though. We need a Fowler or van nistelrooy type there to bang( tap) in 25-30 goals. Carroll is not this type of player, funnily enough I think Kuyt is actually or best of the current squad at that poacher role.
Think that as games go by and the team clicks together you will see us score more. I've noticed in a lot of our games that a large percentage of our shots on target seem to be right at the keeper - the 4 save/miss against Stoke being a prime example, it was less of a great 4 save/block salvo than it was the all the attempts were hit straight at, or far too close to the keeper, making it a lot easier on him. Same for Dirks effort on Sat, did great to get to the ball but his half volley more hit De Gea than him producing a fab save. On the flip side of all that is the fact that one of these games all thats gone wrong with the finishing, or all the luck the opposition has had with shots going at them rather than the postage stamp will go right for us at some point. The next 3 games should produce plenty of oppertunity for goalscoring and I really feel if we hand out one good arse kicking to someone we could suddenly see a lot of the fluffed chances suddenly hitting the corners of the net rather than the centre and the keeper.
A point I was making our conversion rate is about 10% exactly what I've read Suarez's was with Ajax so probably it will continue with us ? IMO it's elsewhere we need to improve or were we need to look at . Carroll isn't the answer and hope he proves me wrong some like pea at UTD would suit Suarez , we'll think so. Don't get me wrong Carroll will he a hit with us but I still feel we need another type striker in the squad. Thoughts ?
Yep, totally agree. Our current strikers are a varied bunch. Suarez is always likely to produce some ridiculous piece of skill, resulting in a triple hernia for a defender. But he does miss a lot of chances you would think a player of his abilities should be putting away. Bellamy is the play in the shoulder and use his pace type. Carrolls attributes are well known, even if I think he doesnt get the credit his "ground games" deserves sometimes. (Not necessarily this season granted) And Dirk tends to get a lot of his goals from set pieces. We dont have a Rushie/Robbie type thats as liable to score a scrappy 2 feet screamer as a bullet from the edge of the box. The proverbial "fox in the box"
IMO I think it's pointless debating that until the window is open.I think we have the players already but for whatever reason it just hasn't clicked yet but will soon hopefully.
Interesting points made here. Defo need to be clinical with our chances, as we all know getting a 2nd goal when leading & on top would kill the game in our favour [Sunderland, Mancs, etc]. Hopefully the next 3 games will bring some goals, wins & confidence which can only help strengthen the team to gel. On another point, would prefer to see Adam take corners, as I think Stevie G latching onto any breaking balls on the edge of the box would pose a greater goal threat.