Torres: Goals Tally Prediction

[Fowler's God]

How many goals will our El Nino score??

Love to see him get off the mark in the Villa game

[Alex Raisbeck]

20 goals, and every single one in the Premiership.
That would delight me .

[redeagle]

15 in prem..overall.. 22.

big match player.

really excited, seems really down to earth and knows the task at hand.

[marko]

Want to be positive so,

15 in the league + 10 in the cups would be nice

more like 15 total + 10 assists would be a good first season.

[stevieg]

Thought we were signing him to be a 20+ goal in PL and 30 goals in all competitions a season striker ?
Everyones predictions are quite low then,no ?

Have always felt the strikers we have had could get 20 goals a season in the PL but the way Benitez plays prevents this.

So will guess at 15 in the PL if Benitez plays as defensively as last season but 20+ in the PL if he takes the shackles off.

[armaghred]

20+ for me, he will be out to show everyone what he's really about:D:D bring on the villa:p

[phil]

anywhere between 15-25 will do me

[Fowler's God]

anywhere between 15-25 will do me

About right if he got between that. We'll see come the first game against Villa if he starts up front with Kuyt to see how he adapts. I said earlier a goal in the Villa game would do him a world of good.

[Colm]

i dont think he will be that prolific in his first season.12 goals in the prem.16 overall

[WexRed]

Only one player broke 20 last season (after having a not so great debut season), Owen never did it and both those players probably started nearly every league game. I think its a tall order to ask that of Torres in his debut season. Rafa today already hinted that strikers would have to fight for their place and that he would still rotate so he won't start every single match and deffo won't play the whole 90 mins. 15 would be a nice total if we had three strikers getting in and around the same remembering his assist rate is decent considering the team mates he had around him in Spain. As commented by a few he might also bring out the best in Kuyt who ironically could be the one to end up our top goalscorer and even hit that magic number because of Torres. If our strike force hits anywhere within an arse's roar of 50 goals then who cares who gets them.

I won't be taking Paddy Powers 10/1 on Torres being Prem top goalscorer anyway and I love a good gamble on Pool (last season I had us for CL winner 1k if won, Crouch CL golden boot 3k if won, Prem 1st 10k and 2nd 3k). You might as well take the 33/1 double for us to win the league and Torres to be top goalscorer because I can't see us not winning if he was though could see the reverse happening (alright Chelski didn't win when Drogba was top goalscorer and same with Arsenal and Henry but thats my point about having one big goalscorer not being the be all and end all......if we did add that to two double figure strikers we're league champions with our defence, end of)

[megager]

I think he will break 20, say 21 in league, and 8-9 more in other competitions. I rate the lad highly I do

[WexRed]

30 in his first season !!! If he does that we'll be winning some shape of a double.

From reading the pro and con articles on him whatever about the opinions of his strike rate nobody disagrees that his general play is very impressive to watch. His pace, power and ball control running directly at defences. I'm quite excited about actually being more entertained about the play on the pitch regardless of just results. I wonder is there a big of Digger in him. I would love to see a bit of that again about us.

[Rogie]

15, because even Torres will be rotated.

[GaryMc]

I would reckon in region of 12/15 in the league, anything less would be disappointing. If Kuty got around the same, Crouchie with 10... and a few from midfield it would be a good return. The days of people getting 30 league goals are gone. Rotation being the main reason. When hopefully the big champs leagues games come around, El nino will find himself on the bench for league games weekend before :eek:

[Fowler's God]

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[Jockser]

84 goals .....

[carragherisgod]

I'd say 12 in the prem. 7 more in all others

[yodabenitez]

All I can say is what would God be worth circa 96/97...oh dear, 30+ 3/4 seasons on the bounce...may the force be with you my Toxteth Terror, El Nino indeed. Fill that shirt kiddo and you are the man.

[Malzheimer]

Can see El Nino chipping in with around 12-15 league goals and about 8-10 in other competitions. I would say he will turn provider alot because of the type of player he is. Could see Kuyt hitting 15+ league goals, as I would hope to see him in and around the box much more rather than coming deep like last season, I would rather see Torres doing this. If Crouchie got 10 League goals, and Stevie G around the same that would be a very satisfactory return imo.

[Ligger]

I worry about where the extra goals to win the league are going to come from then. We scored 57 league goals last year V Man U 83. So if we take the following

Torres 15
Kuyt 15
Crouch 10
Stevie G 10
New winger 7
Harry/JP 5

Total thus far = 62
Others need to score about 20 or so. Can they do this. Xabi, Mash, Finnan, Carra, Riise. Think we will need alot of OGs to make up the short fall. Now fair enough with our defense we probably don't need to score as many as Man U I hear you cry but they let in exactly as many league goals as us last year, and Chelski let in one less.

Now how many do we want Torres to score?

[WexRed]

We all know the league form we had defensively at the start of last season with Carra injured and then not his best and Agger just coming in then. Ally that to the CL preoccupation once our title challenge was conceded, particuarly once CL qualiftion was secured again and the likes of Arbeloa and Aurelio coming in and its hard to compare the records. Our defensive record from the season before when Anfield was made a fortress once more was amazing and thats more of what we'll be expecting again.

In theory you can win every match with 38 goals and the same number of clean sheets. I'm not sure we need twice that. If Torres and Kuyt got 35 between them with another 20 from Crouch and Gerrard thats a decent platform before adding in other midfield goals. I agree one of the shocking stats from last season was the lack of goals coming from the players not mentioned. The likes of Pennant, Kewell, Alonso and Riise should be "aiming" for 5 each even Hyypia used to get that. Then Masch, Momo and Agger chip in for one or two. Didn't every manc player score last season ?

Garcia's first season tally was excellent really if you could've thrown that on top of a scoring frontline. We deffo need double figures from our wingers combined and Alonso to get in with a few more. Even a regularly scoring forward line can't do it all.

[reder]

If he breaks 15 in all competitions, I'll be happy. This guy doesnt have a rep. for scoring bags of goals so I dont see why it will be any different in the PL.

[WexRed]

Hey a trash heap avatar, oh the memories.......although I'd have preferred to jump into your old avatar mind ! (....just checking it was the chick in the Liverpool jersey and nothing much else ?!)

[megager]

Hey guys and gals. Was rooting through old posts and found this. We all seemed to underestimate the impact Torres would have..Except Jockster who confidently predicted 84 goals and Yoda. So will he do 30 again next year???

[Molby Is a Legend]

I think this season will be a lot tougher for him you know the old saying "second season is always harder" still think he can break the 30 mark again tho in all comps

[GaryMc]

He he stays injury free, he will get 20 in the league. We need other players to chip in and take the burden away from him.

Vorinin and Kuyt did not get their fair share in the league last season. If Keane comes in, hopefully he get at least 12-15 with Stevie G coming along with 10.

[D-Red]

I think Torres can match what he did last year. Don't forget he was out injured for a while early on in the season. Also this year we'll (hopefully) have Robbie Keane providing assists for him. El Nino to do it again!!

[fitzpatrickgary]

20+ in all competitions but as others have mentioned it going to be alot harder this season every team now have a better idea of wat his playing style is like but i still think he has the quality to score this many

[edcarroll02]

I think this season will be a lot tougher for him you know the old saying "second season is always harder" still think he can break the 30 mark again tho in all comps

I think these are just covers that managers use to distract from the fact that the player isn't doing too well or just had an unusuallly good first season. We seen Torres destroy the notion that it takes a few sesasons to settle into the premiership so i don't see why he can't take this one out of the equation.
I'd say he'll break 20 in the premier league again, and will get a ridiculous amount in the champions league, especially the early stages!

[Jockser]

26 in the league enough to bring it home

[Kiltyred]

I would say upwards of 30 in the league would be doable, but we have to take into account the strong possibility of him playing alongside Keane next season, which may reduce the tally slightly. He should be able to get around the same as last season if not 1 or 2 more and if he and Robbie (assuming they'll both play regularly) can reach 40 in the league between them, then we could have a strong shout in the league.

[Kiltyred]

I think Torres can match what he did last year. Don't forget he was out injured for a while early on in the season. Also this year we'll (hopefully) have Robbie Keane providing assists for him. El Nino to do it again!!

Yes, don't forget his patchy scoring away from home, which you couldn't see continuing this season. Mark Bright suggested in Nuts a few weeks ago that Rafa could persuade him to stay for 1 more season (ie the coming season):eek:. I wanted to throttle him for even suggesting thatthis could be his last season with us. I hope and expect he will be banging them in for many years to come.

[Kiltyred]

If he breaks 15 in all competitions, I'll be happy. This guy doesnt have a rep. for scoring bags of goals so I dont see why it will be any different in the PL.

Who is this we're talking about sorry?

[Kiltyred]

I worry about where the extra goals to win the league are going to come from then. We scored 57 league goals last year V Man U 83. So if we take the following

Torres 15
Kuyt 15
Crouch 10
Stevie G 10
New winger 7
Harry/JP 5

Total thus far = 62
Others need to score about 20 or so. Can they do this. Xabi, Mash, Finnan, Carra, Riise. Think we will need alot of OGs to make up the short fall. Now fair enough with our defense we probably don't need to score as many as Man U I hear you cry but they let in exactly as many league goals as us last year, and Chelski let in one less.

Now how many do we want Torres to score?


Don't agree with that logic. Firstly I can't understand some of your scoring tallies, are you talking about last year or this year? As for united. I doubt they'll score 83 this season and their defence is vulnerable too. They may have conceded as many as us last year but something will have to give, if they play as attacking as last season they will concede a few more, if they don't they'll score a good few less. Even if Ronaldo stays, there will be tension in the camp and may affect goalscoring. Simple truth is, we fecked away the league last season with silly draws. If we can change that this season, we could have a shout whatever United score.

Interestingly enough Jimi Floyd Hasselbaink said the other day he reckoned Liverpool could win the league or run it very close. He didn't know why, he just had that feeling. I think we'll finish second. Frankly I think we're better than Chelsea and Arsenal are a little all over the place. If we can get the consistency however, who knows, we could do it.

[Paul]

Yes, don't forget his patchy scoring away from home, which you couldn't see continuing this season. Mark Bright suggested in Nuts a few weeks ago that Rafa could persuade him to stay for 1 more season (ie the coming season):eek:. I wanted to throttle him for even suggesting thatthis could be his last season with us. I hope and expect he will be banging them in for many years to come.

i cant believe you're quoting a football article from nuts :D

[Kiltyred]

i cant believe you're quoting a football article from nuts :D

I'm doing it to say how off the mark he was. Honest.

[Jockser]

kilty read the dates the posts are made on will you?

[Kiltyred]

Okay, got it now. Sorry. Just assumed it was a new thread.

[megager]

By bringing up an old thread I wanted to show how, excited and all as we all were about Torres, most of us really didnt expect him to have the impact he did. I love reading through old posts. Its like reading tomorrows newspaper in a way

[Paul]

kilty read the dates the posts are made on will you?

Fair play Jockers with your prediction last season, you were nearest by a mile :D

[Jockser]

bang on the nail ;)

[paddypower111]

i think 25 to 30 in all compatitions and if robbie keane arrives another 15 to 20 of him in all compations good partener ship all round and hopefully kyut gerrard and babal and beny will pop in a nice few to . we,ll have to have alot more goals from midfield. cos last year it was torres mostly winning us gms.
so goals all round 4 all i care as long as we are succesfull in winning ur first premiership

[Fowler's God]

See my topic from last summer has propped up. Too see him score 33 goals last season was jus unreal. I seen 5 of the Live at Anfield, his hat-trick against Boro and his other 2 goals against Fulham and Reading.

If he can score 20 plus goals this season, i think it would be satisfactory if other players scored a few more espeically from midfield in terms of Premiership goals.

[annetcl]

25 in the league, >35 in total...hopefully!

[Red_n_Blue]

25-30 for me, providing we get a decent run in europe

[Pimboli]

I know having scored 24 goals in the league last season this next statement is hard to believe, but if he becomes a bit more clinical in front of goal I can see him breaking 30. There were quite a few games last season he could have scored 4 or 5 in but didnt score any.

If he starts the season the way he ended last season and the fact he will be buzzing after Euro 2008 I cant see anything stopping him his confidence will be so high.

What do defenders do? If they stay tight he will turn them and then never be caught, if they stand off him he will do his little slow down then blast right buy them?, or do they hack him down and as he showed last season the more physical you get with him the more determined he gets to score.

Torres is the complete package pace, power, precision and not too shabby in the air and with an intelligent player like Keane (possibly) feeding him as well as Gerrard the sky is the limit. Imagine if he took frees or penalties!

[Fowler's God]

I know having scored 24 goals in the league last season this next statement is hard to believe, but if he becomes a bit more clinical in front of goal I can see him breaking 30. There were quite a few games last season he could have scored 4 or 5 in but didnt score any.

The Sunderland and Newcastle away games spring to mind.

[wonit5times]

I hope to see el nino hit the auld onion bag bout 18-25 times in the prem with a bit of luck and ofcourse good balls into him!
I think he could master another 10 or so in all other competitions, it will be hard for him this season with the '2nd season syndrome' kicking in but aslong as he stays fit and Rafa plays him he should be worth bout 30 goals again this season.

[gav003]

I think he can top 30 league goals this year

[clarni]

I'm going for 34. Fingers crossed