marseille vs Liverpool (CL)

[redeagle]

Decided to start the topic rather than picking through the bones of our defeat yesterday.

Marseille have won their last two home games (although against teams in the bottom half) and drawn an away game. They are still 13th in the french league and have conceded 9 goals at home this season.

I think this is going to be a really difficult game. So much pressure on us to go and perform, although we seem to do our best work in these one off games.

I think if we really fly out of the blocks unlike against reading from the very start we can cause some damage and along with the right team.

for me it has to be similar,

reina
finnan carra sami arbeloa
babel gerrard masch/lucas kewell
crouch
torres/kuyt (if torres isn't fit)

As usual first goal is all important and vital we keep our cool and do the right things.

I will also be avoiding the hysteria of papers, pundits and guessers on rawk untill tuesday night. lol.


YNWA :D:D

[StevieGisMyIdol]

Torres HAS to be fit!:mad:
Agger available??
Alonso??Heard they were both back training...
Did Carra get a booking against Reading for the penalty?
Mine has to be:
--------------Reina--------------
Finnan---Agger/Sami---Carra---Arbeloa
------------------------------------------
Benayoun--Gerrard--Alonso/Masch--Riise
--------------------------------------------
--------------Torres----Kuyt/Crouch------

[sean]

I hope Marseille set themselves out to draw the game, think we'll rip them to shreds if they do. Can't wait for this game now, I think an early start in the pub after work is in order!

[Fowler's God]

Carra didn't get a booking against Reading after Stevie G did. As for the Marseille game should a tense night for us all. Not an easy place to go and win.

[Jockser]

0-2

[redchariot]

It will be a tough match; Marseille are starting to get back into winning ways in the French League.

If we get the team right and not the 4-3-3 crack like yesterday, there is no reason why we can't get a win. Hopefully Torres will be back; he didn't look to bad when he came off yesterday.

[mypost]

I hope Marseille set themselves out to draw the game, think we'll rip them to shreds if they do.

Nobody ever rips Marseille to shreds at the Velodrome. We didn't do it the last time we went there either 4 years ago. Great win for the lads yesterday, winning the big derby at home to Monaco. :)

Would be bad karma if Zenden or Cissé score to knock us out, after their contribution to us for so long, another king size Benitez f-up if it did happen. If we do go out, we'll have lost the group thanks to the shocking result in Istanbul, not Marseille, as we should be through by now.

[Malzheimer]

Nobody ever rips Marseille to shreds at the Velodrome. We didn't do it the last time we went there either 4 years ago. Great win for the lads yesterday, winning the big derby at home to Monaco. :)

Would be bad karma if Zenden or Cissé score to knock us out, after their contribution to us for so long, another king size Benitez f-up if it did happen. If we do go out, we'll have lost the group thanks to the shocking result in Istanbul, not Marseille, as we should be through by now.

Are you a Marseille fan in disguise??:)

You canno be serious saying that getting rid of Zenden or Cisse is a **** up by Raf? I'd say it was the complete opposite....a masterpiece in fact! They are not anywhere near the standard required for challenging for a title!

Your right though, in Istanbul and Anfield against Marseille were horrorshow performances from the Reds that have put us in this position. But we like to keep things exciting, doing them the hard way, so for me a 2-1 win with a late Zenden OG would signal his best contribution to Liverpool ever. ;)

(Karma please dont see this post)

Kewell and Yossi to start with Dirk and Fernando up front. Sami and Carra at the back I hope. Massive week cant wait! Come on Redmen!

[mypost]

Are you a Marseille fan in disguise??:)

But we like to keep things exciting, doing them the hard way, so for me a 2-1 win with a late Zenden OG would signal his best contribution to Liverpool ever. ;)

Well, we don't like doing things the hard way, I much preferred last year's way of going through after 4 games.

I'm not a Marseille fan in disguise, but a long-time Marseille fan in France. It's not going to be easy for me on Tuesday night, knowing that either us or them will be going out. While Liverpool get my priority in Europe and I hope we win as usual, if we don't, it was mainly down to the Besiktas result away that ruined the group for us, as even after the home loss, the group was still retrievable, and we would be top of it now, had we won in Turkey. :(

[GaryMc]

if Rafa plays the best players available in correct positions we should have enough to beat them

Reina

Finnan Carra Hyppia Arbeloa
Benayoun Gerrard Masher Kewell
Crouch Torres

I suspect though Kuyt will start as he was not used on Saturday, Looks like Lucas could be involved as well.

I just hope Cisse does not come back to Haunt Rafa.

[The Chanter]

At 5.15pm last Saturday most LFC fans were fully behind Rafa after an impressive run of results.
By 6:30pm (not even a full game of football later ;)) many of those same fans doubted Rafa's ability after he appeared to 'throw in the towel' against Reading.
He obviously viewed the CL game (and his job) as more important than the possibility of clawing back 1 PL point. I was always thought that a loss is only acceptable when you know you've given your all!
If Rafa pulls off a victory away to Marseille tonight then his decision at Reading will be somewhat justified - anything less and he'll be walking thin ice on his way to the G&H Summit.

Even if tonight goes against us we should remember that for each of the last 3 years we've had our best start to the season in years.
There'a a lot of pressure on Rafa tonight, I'm sure Cisse and Zendon will be up for it but I have confidence that the Liverpool lads will respond well to Saturday's defeat.

Rafa banned them from watching the fight - I hope they heeded him. Wouldn't it be bad form if he took them off to prevent fatigue and then they stayed up all night to watch the fight :mad: - I'm still recovering from it.

Good Luck Tonight Rafa and the Reds :)

[nsmithie]

Can't afford to let them out number us in midfield like they did at Anfield so i'd go with this
Reina
Finnan Carra Sami Arbeloa
Lucas Masch Gerrard
Yossi Kewell
Torres

That team will keep the ball as well as providing a cutting edge going forward.

But I'm confident about tonight, think we'll score early and win 2-0

[Malzheimer]

Well, we don't like doing things the hard way, I much preferred last year's way of going through after 4 games.

I'm not a Marseille fan in disguise, but a long-time Marseille fan in France. It's not going to be easy for me on Tuesday night, knowing that either us or them will be going out. While Liverpool get my priority in Europe and I hope we win as usual, if we don't, it was mainly down to the Besiktas result away that ruined the group for us, as even after the home loss, the group was still retrievable, and we would be top of it now, had we won in Turkey. :(


True, Id of much preferred to be in Mancs or Chavs position tonight but mistakes have cost us. However if we pull it off tonight it will feel so much sweeter, and fill us full of confidence for the game on Sunday.
Come on Redmen!

[Aido82]

2-0

Nice early goal will settle us down, i think who ever scores first in this game will win, hope its us

[redeagle]

sick with nerves... can't study.. been humming liverbird on my chest all day.


COME ON REDMEN

[Ligger]

We are 5/6 to win, bookies are rarely wrong, and I hope this is one of the times they have it spot on.

Can't wait the PMT is really kicking in now.:)

[RedMurph08]

We are 5/6 to win, bookies are rarely wrong, and I hope this is one of the times they have it spot on.

Can't wait the PMT is really kicking in now.:)

Lol, very funny. Looking forward to this myself, tight game i expect but still think we will do the bizz. 2-0 with Torres getting the 1st. :D

[Pimboli]

I hope Marseille set themselves out to draw the game, think we'll rip them to shreds if they do. Can't wait for this game now, I think an early start in the pub after work is in order!


Like ourselves Marseille have turned the corner since the last time we met. It wont be any walkover. Remember although we beat Porto 4-1 for 75 minutes we looked like we were heading out until Torres did the business and that was a game that most predicted Liverpool would run all over Porto given it was the week with the Rafa problems but the performace didnt materialise from the players and the scoreline flattered us.

I dont expect Marseille to set up for a draw at all its too risky they will be looking to win so beating them will be anything but easy and all the pressure is on Liverpool, this is the sort of game that we will need a big performance to get the result we need

[mypost]

No English club has won in Marseille, but there seems to be a bit of an "English" mentality about the predictions here. "We know f-all about the opposition, so it will be an easy win." :rolleyes: When the Cranks went there in the 99 CL 1st Round, Marseille won 1-0. (That was a sweet night :) ) Marseille are much better than Reading, so it will be very tight, and be one of those nail-biting nights.

One thing we will learn tonight, is how to create an atmosphere from the fanatical home fans, making a mockery of our fans' silent vigil at Anfield against them earlier in the season. :(

[GaryMc]

I have to say I feel fairly relaxed about the game, maybe its because I am looking forward to Sunday more as I am going it. I think the lads will do the business as best XI will be out there with nothing holding them back

[paulwex]

2 - 0 torres & stevie.

[Pimboli]

I have to say I feel fairly relaxed about the game, maybe its because I am looking forward to Sunday more as I am going it. I think the lads will do the business as best XI will be out there with nothing holding them back

Id have to agree, Im looking forward to going to the match more at the weekend and probably the heart attack the tension walking to the ground will give me and also tomorrow night in the Tram seeing the boys holds more excitement for me.

Im sure that will change when the game kicks off but if we lose tonight I wont go screaming bloody murder at anyone unless they turn in a shambles of a performance like the first game

[Pimboli]

2 - 0 torres & stevie.

Considering people say we are not a 2 man team those 2 boys names seem to crop up a bit when predicting scorers ;)

[stamullenredmen]

Id have to agree, Im looking forward to going to the match more at the weekend and probably the heart attack the tension walking to the ground will give me and also tomorrow night in the Tram seeing the boys holds more excitement for me.

Im sure that will change when the game kicks off but if we lose tonight I wont go screaming bloody murder at anyone unless they turn in a shambles of a performance like the first game

thats what i always say if they try their hearts out and lose so be it its when a team doesnt try is when im really annoyed.we need to go out there tonight get stuck in from the off dont give them asniff

[RedMurph08]

Considering people say we are not a 2 man team those 2 boys names seem to crop up a bit when predicting scorers ;)

Errm 1 is knocking them in this season and the other has done it consistantly the past 3 seasons for us!!!!!! so why not?

[mypost]

The other oddity about tonight's match, is no Carlsberg on our shirts, to comply with French law that bans alcohol advertising at games.

[The Kopfather]

Pool win is not in any doubt. 2-0, torres and yossi. A good performance would be the icing.

C'mon the POOL

[Bren100]

Did you hear Dunphy's comments just now?
Yossi - Not good enough to play in a top team in Europe or the Premier League, but he's in this team
Kewell - Hasbeen, past it
Hyypia and Carragher - too slow
Arbeloa - not good enough
Risse - Not good enough any more.

[byrnetred]

Did you hear Dunphy's comments just now?
Yossi - Not good enough to play in a top team in Europe or the Premier League, but he's in this team
Kewell - Hasbeen, past it
Hyypia and Carragher - too slow
Arbeloa - not good enough
Risse - Not good enough any more.


change the channel if you dont like listening to his opinions...simple as
mythbusters is on discovery;)

[Kopite]

That sums it up for me there now, Dunphy is after saying the cheyrou that is playing for Marsaille tonight was the same one that played for us, ****en idiot

[Bren100]

change the channel if you dont like listening to his opinions...simple as
mythbusters is on discovery;)


Never said I dont like listening to him ... Carra and Hyyia are slow, no secret. Kewell is past it (wait and see he will play a cracker tonight now) Risse is poor this season.

Would not agree with the Yossi comments though, he needs time at a big club to find his feet.

Arbeloa is better at left full - Finnan is our best right full.

(thats a good mythbusuters episode though) :)

[The Chanter]

He went through each player in the Liverpool lineup and basically said they were crap or slow - he's a bellend when it comes to talking about Liverpool. He couldn't understand why Kewell is playing - he's been impressive over the last few weeks and is one of the few players we have that can get in behind.. line up looks strong to me...Come on the reds!

[mypost]

Watch ITV's show.

I gave up watching RTE's Liverpool analysis, after the criticism dished out after the win against Besiktas. :mad::mad: You'd swear we lost 0-8.

[Bren100]

Watch ITV's show.

I gave up watching RTE's Liverpool analysis, after the criticism dished out after the win against Besiktas. :mad::mad: You'd swear we lost 0-8.

I know what you mean...

[byrnetred]

Never said I dont like listening to him ... Carra and Hyyia are slow, no secret. Kewell is past it (wait and see he will play a cracker tonight now) Risse is poor this season.

Would not agree with the Yossi comments though, he needs time at a big club to find his feet.

Arbeloa is better at left full - Finnan is our best right full.

(thats a good mythbusuters episode though) :)
yossi he's a good squad player...he wouldnt be in the starting 11 for me week in week out but he can be a great impact sub player when a game need to be freshened up...bring a bit of spark when required

will he become a better player than he is at the moment i dont know, he has been playing in the premiership for quite few years now...

[marathonman]

mo dear:eek:

Phew.BBC five live had stated that momo was playing instead of Masch

[Bren100]

Do you think Dunphy is right when he said only Carra, SG and ElNino are the only 3 players that would deffo get into an Arsenal/Chelski or ManUre side?

[Bren100]

Gerrard, WTF!!!!

Hope he keeps the head and doesnt react!

[mypost]

Do you think Dunphy is right when he said only Carra, SG and ElNino are the only 3 players that would deffo get into an Arsenal/Chelski or ManUre side?

When it comes to LFC, the lot of them are just thick (Manc-loving) Paddy's, with as much knowledge of an LFC team, as SS has in management.

[Bren100]

How can Houghton say Gerrard played for that??? It was a stone wall pen!!!

[mypost]

How can Houghton say Gerrard played for that???

he's brought down by a very rash Gael Givet tackle. Clear penalty.

How can you still watch RTE? :D

[The Chanter]

2 - 0 torres & stevie.


Good shout PaulWex ....excellent goal from Torres after some great work down the left by Kewell - that's why he started!

Let's hope they finish Marseille off

[mypost]

RTE's panel might walk out in disgust. :D

[Bren100]

RTE's panel might walk out in disgust. :D

LOL

[mypost]

Since when did white and red shirts clash?? :confused: Both sides gears are horrible. :(

[Bren100]

Faty. J just came on, sounds more like an over weight American Rapper than a footy player!! ;)

[byrnetred]

Do you think Dunphy is right when he said only Carra, SG and ElNino are the only 3 players that would deffo get into an Arsenal/Chelski or ManUre side?

in fairness there isnt a straight forward answer to when...when u have a few hours space ill discusse it wit ya;)

[Bren100]

in fairness there isnt a straight forward answer to when...when u have a few hours space ill discusse it wit ya;)

Meet you at the bar tomorrow so ...

[byrnetred]

Meet you at the bar tomorrow so ...
guinness for me :D

[redeagle]

eamon dunphy is a tool. arbeloa a waster LMAO.. funniest thing ever.. only just caught it.

we are doing ok.. prefer if we got the ball down and tried to pass it around.

created all the chances. deserved leaders.

[mypost]

....

in fairness there isnt a straight forward answer to when...when u have a few hours space ill discusse it wit ya;)

Meet you at the bar tomorrow so

guinness for me

....I take it we're winning then :)

[The Chanter]

eamon dunphy is a tool. arbeloa a waster LMAO.. funniest thing ever.. only just caught it.

we are doing ok.. prefer if we got the ball down and tried to pass it around.

created all the chances. deserved leaders.


0-2 up after 11mins is great but the game has been scrappy with some moments of magic (mainly from Torres). Hopefully Rafa can get them to settle down a little in the 2nd half and start controlling the game. Then maybe think about taking off players like FT, SG and JC in preparation for the scum.

[mypost]

Game won. :) Must say it's been much easier than first thought.

[Kopite]

great performance, made up, roll on sunday, RTE are a joke and Im fed up saying it on here, why the hell do I flick it over and watch it i do not know. But fcuk them, great win

[BornaRedLass]

Yeah I was watching RTE too and I dont know why. They never say anything different.. Commentators asking the guys in the studio to check if any team has scored 16 in 3 CL group stage games and then back to the studio and as usual all they say is that the other team were rubbish and we were poor. Job done tho and Im delighted. Interesting to see who we get in the next round, will definitely be one of the top teams but we've done it before and will do it again :)

[TomHicks]

Great win, not great performance.

Marseille were dreadful!
Some poor performances by some of the liverpool players.
If we were up against a decent team we'd have struggled.

But great to see were through and the march continues.

[marathonman]

Listen to this.Dunphy says the reason he slates us so much is that he loves us so much.
Did anybody see him nip out to the toilet at half time?
:D

[dubit10]

eamon dunphy is a tool. arbeloa a waster LMAO.. funniest thing ever.. only just caught it.

we are doing ok.. prefer if we got the ball down and tried to pass it around.

created all the chances. deserved leaders.

Agree 100%.....Torres aside rafas best signing..Quality:)

[mypost]

Tonight's complaint chez RTE, was that they had to "endure" the match. :D

I switched back to ITV as soon as I heard Giles spout on about why we got ourselves into this position. Like it matters. :confused: :rolleyes:

Another 4 on Sunday, please. :)

[Aido82]

look were through now, end of

Who do ye fancy in the next round

Inter Milan
AC Milan
Barca
Real Madris
Seville

No easy matches there

[redeagle]

was a typical away performance in the CL from us really. We completely nullified the opposition.

Everyone really worked hard without doing anything flashy and it was enough.

A type of game we played with one eye on the mancs which will be a bit more attacking I reckon. Otherwise we would get plastered.

[redeagle]

look were through now, end of

Who do ye fancy in the next round

Inter Milan
AC Milan
Barca
Real Madris
Seville

No easy matches there

ac...barca aren't on fire either.

think we could do seville. Inter are pretty usefull.. but always seem to flatter without threatening.

[Aido82]

look were through now, end of

Who do ye fancy in the next round

Inter Milan
AC Milan
Barca
Real Madris
Seville

No easy matches there


Id take AC or seville to be honest

[RedMurph08]

Watch ITV's show.

I gave up watching RTE's Liverpool analysis, after the criticism dished out after the win against Besiktas. :mad::mad: You'd swear we lost 0-8.

And just to hear David Pleat pronounce Benayoun (bennynoon) is priceless. :D:D:D

[GaryMc]

That sums it up for me there now, Dunphy is after saying the cheyrou that is playing for Marsaille tonight was the same one that played for us, ****en idiot


No way, shows how much preparation he does... he is some toolbox.

[GaryMc]

Id take AC or seville to be honest

I would fancy us to beat anyone over two legs, its just a pity we can't get United. Save them for the Semi's:D:D:D

[mypost]

look were through now, end of

Who do ye fancy in the next round

Inter Milan
AC Milan
Barca
Real Madris
Seville

We're not expecting any CL games. Arsenal will win their group, so it's down to 4 teams. The home leg is first. :mad:

AC or Barca please.

[Thanx]

We're not expecting any CL games. Arsenal will win their group, so it's down to 4 teams. The home leg is first. :mad:

AC or Barca please.

Would take any of them really. I know the euphoria will probably wear off eventually but until then I really can seeing us beating any team put in front of us despite some frailties exposed.

Would take Seville at the moment, but it does not matter, if we are going to get there for a third time in four we will need to beat the best at some stage.

[Fowler's God]

3 Pressurised games 3 Wins, 16 goals and 1 conceded....Shows the grit and drive our teams has.

Harry Kewell for all his faults had a good game 2nite, set up two of the goals. All in all looking forward to the Utd game on Sunday.

[REDHEART]

great result.suppose like the porto game result was moet important.marsille were poor.so were we tbh.if we were up against better opposition we would strugle.we really need to up it against utd.torres and stevie g were the main men 2nite.kewell did well also.

would love to get real madrid.never seen the pool play them.would be a cracker of a tie.love to see the pool play the barn.:D

[Elnino_the_kid]

roll on moscow

i have garaunteed tickets

[RastaRed]

nice one on the tickets, hope everything goes to plan

[rampant hair]

RTE were awful again. Cheyrou used to play for Liverpool? Would it be that much to ask for them to do some homework before emparting their knowledge on the enthralled audience?

Eamon: 'Would .........Real Madrid sign Benayoun?' followed closely by.......'Baptiste plays in midfield for Real for God's sake, and he's a reject Arsenal striker'

Also noticable that giles or dunphy weren't giving SG his usual 'disappears in the big matches bollox' perhaps because of Souness pre match eulogy of him.

And Peter Collins 'They regularly fall far short of Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal???? in the PL..............erm didn't we finish ahead of them last season? and the year before:rolleyes:

[Dub13]

if we are going to get there for a third time in four we will need to beat the best at some stage.

Thats the way I look at it as well,I would love another go at AC.....they font look great this season.

[megager]

Id love Real Madrid, Now that would be a tie.

[Bren100]

AC - would love to bury them over 2 legs - we owe them

[Elnino_the_kid]

lads we might aswell organise the trip to moscow , last year we just needed a striker and now we have a top notch one and look very hard to beat

moscow any one

[The Kopfather]

A job well done. Just need to beat the scum this weekend now. No problem.

I'd like to see us get real madrid next, keep ac milan for the final in moscow.

[mypost]

lads we might aswell organise the trip to moscow, any one

When are you getting the visas?

[The Kopfather]

roll on moscow

i have garaunteed tickets

Hope its not with abbey travel:D

[Elnino_the_kid]

my sister in laws brother works and lives in red square , he's a journalist and he said he'd be abe to get tickets , im browsing sites for flights , might aswell go , even if we aint there , be good weekend

[mypost]

my sister in laws brother works and lives in red square , he's a journalist and he said he'd be abe to get tickets , im browsing sites for flights , might aswell go , even if we aint there , be good weekend

The game's in midweek, and you wouldn't be let near the place without 2 valid visas. I was there before, and they are ultra-strict with their rules. It is a dictatorship over there now.

[Elnino_the_kid]

a monkey can get a visa these days , look how many there are in ireland :)

i'll just contact him and ask him the way to go about it , during the week , weekend who gives a flying fook :) i'll be there and red square will truly be red , YNWA

[SUPERFAN]

pretty much amazed that no one has mentioned him so i reckon i'll have to.
fxxxxn well done Rafa Benitez!
yis are quick to knock him Lads,bit of credit where it's due...

[marathonman]

Welcome back.
Is that the best you can do? Give us a run down on last night.

[GaryMc]

pretty much amazed that no one has mentioned him so i reckon i'll have to.
fxxxxn well done Rafa Benitez!
yis are quick to knock him Lads,bit of credit where it's due...

too right, he looked like a relieved man at the end, he went around every player patting them on the back. You could see in his face in post match interview he was relieved.

[Fowler's God]

I seen a lot of english flags in the crowd at the Marseille end, i heard it was to do with something that the english teams who have played at the velodrome and failed...

[Aido82]

Great win but marseille offered nothing, still cant believe they beat us in anfield. Roll on the last 16, when is the draw

[liverbird!!]

Great win but marseille offered nothing, still cant believe they beat us in anfield. Roll on the last 16, when is the draw

Hi Aidan

Think its 21/12/07 Christmas break up day Wahoo!!!

[Fowler's God]

Great win but marseille offered nothing, still cant believe they beat us in anfield. Roll on the last 16, when is the draw

We thought the same after Beskitas. The form we were in when we played them both was bad so it was understandable i suppose we couldn't hit a barn door(in terms of goals)

[sean]

fxxxxn well done Rafa Benitez!

Here fxxxxn here!

[vodkacolly]

look were through now, end of

Who do ye fancy in the next round

Inter Milan
AC Milan
Barca
Real Madris
Seville

No easy matches there
Not afraid of any team in Europe but would love to get Madrid.

[mypost]

The view from Marseille (http://www.om.net/en/Saison/102002/Matches/920/OM_0_4_LIVERPOOL_THE_DISAPPOINTMENT_BUT_UEFA_CUP_A S_A_CONSOLATION)