bolton away

[glen]

this is gonna get a mixed reaction this week id say on the one hand if we play like we did yesterday we should win no problem on the other roy's away record is shocking and if we go back into our shell we could get beat again

[ROCCO]

Bolton are a much changed side to the long ball side they were , this will be a much harder game than the last game v Blackburn , but hoping Roy throws away 35 years of over defensive football away from home and remembers with just 6 wins in 66 games in the premierleague ......... the mindset is wrong .

[7Cannibal-9Asbo]

Just hope he realises what the team he has are capable of rather than playing the game he always has away from home. Whoever/whatever sparked the tactics on Sunday will hopefully inform him that being away from home changes nothing. We need to make teams fearful of us again by making them play our game whether we're at home or away.

[Redondo]

Play the same side, injuries permitting.

Kyrgiakos should keep Davies quiet.

[Liverpool-law]

Bolton are very hard to beat, draw specialists, with only one loss in 9, and that was away from home. Their defence is actually better than ours at the moment, I just hope our forwards will have more about them. Hopefully 1-2, could see a score draw.

[Axel96]

Roy away record is quiet poor...if he wants to stay on as manager he really needs to put a run a of results together and get us clear of the bottom half of the table...
Setting the team up for a draw here isnt really good enough, need to play the same way against Blackburn and get a win...

[dk.lfc]

Never an easy place to go the reebok no matter what type of form your in. Hopefully the perfomance from Blackburn and the confidence that the players got from that win (especially Nando) can be shown here again. Cant see the team being much different and I hope the greek starts because I personally think he is our toughest defender and we will need plenty of this as Bolton know how to throw themselves around.

[Maverick]

Unfortunately I can see a defensive line up for this one due to Boltons physical approach.These games are important as they will define our eventual position in the table at the end of the season.We have to start showing that we are capable of brushing aside these so called lesser teams.Back to back win would show great improvement and give the lads a much needed confidence boost.

[miked]

He shouldnt change the team at all, team played well against Blackburn and he should throw caution to the wind and use the sam eteam, no one would blame him for that. Team playing well should be the team starting.

[glen]

if chelsea beat blackburn 3-0 saturday we will be out of relegation on goal difference before bolton game:D

[clayton]

this will be a very tricky game, Bolton are a good side under Coyle.
I would be happy with a draw.

[Malzheimer]

I would argue this new look Bolton side should be easier for us to beat than the old kick and run style team they had. We should not be bullied and have better ball players in our team so I am going here expecting a win and nothing less.

[clayton]

I would argue this new look Bolton side should be easier for us to beat than the old kick and run style team they had. We should not be bullied and have better ball players in our team so I am going here expecting a win and nothing less.

i hope you are right mate!

[smiley1987]

would like some of this please so we can play a nice passing game

....................reina....................
kelly....soto....agger.....konchesky
...............meireles....................
maxi.....gerrard...cole.....aurelio....
.................torres......................

Would also like to see shelvey get another run out for even just 5 mins

[babbsnads]

I'd imagine we're looking at the same 11 as last week but I'm more worried about the tactics we're going to employ. Please let's attack them from the off. Go toe to toe with them in a footballing contest and as long as we match their workrate there can only be one winner.

[The Pernicious One]

I would argue this new look Bolton side should be easier for us to beat than the old kick and run style team they had. We should not be bullied and have better ball players in our team so I am going here expecting a win and nothing less.

Fair and interesting point.

[Rover 609]

1 league away win in 2010 and Hodgsons cautious approach says this game has 0-0 written all over it but i really fancy Torres to bag at least 1,wouldnt put money on it but i think we might snatch a win.

[eegorbishcan]

I hope its more of the same from Roy, I'd be pretty confident going into this one after the way he put us out against Blackburn but his away record at Fulham and us so far makes me nervous.

Have a great feeling for Raul, one of his bullits is due to smash the net soon enough!

[redabbey]

I don't take any credit for discovering this but have checked it myself on an date calculator

On Sunday it will be 442 days since Roy's last Premiership away win on the 15th August 2009.

4-4-2 formation anyone?

[ROCCO]

I don't take any credit for discovering this but have checked it myself on an date calculator

On Sunday it will be 442 days since Roy's last Premiership away win on the 15th August 2009.

4-4-2 formation anyone?

Wouldn't mind 4-1-3-2 , sacrifice one defensive mid and out somebody up along side Torres

[Rover 609]

I don't take any credit for discovering this but have checked it myself on an date calculator

On Sunday it will be 442 days since Roy's last Premiership away win on the 15th August 2009.

4-4-2 formation anyone?

Send it into sky,Tyler would jizz his pants if he could reel off that gem.

[Paddser]

Wouldn't mind 4-1-3-2 , sacrifice one defensive mid and out somebody up along side Torres

Ah here Rocco...we cant be waiting 4,132 days for an away win ;)

[mousey]

I don't take any credit for discovering this but have checked it myself on an date calculator

On Sunday it will be 442 days since Roy's last Premiership away win on the 15th August 2009.

4-4-2 formation anyone?


Amazing stat. and even more amazing how you stumbled across it. I'd say you did Applied Maths for the leaving cert.

[red1965]

Ah here Rocco...we cant be waiting 4,132 days for an away win ;)

not much longer to wait paddy:D

[arklowred]

Hi all, i have a spare for the bolton game on Sunday. Is there anyone from the south-east of the country who can get the ticket up to dublin tomorrow (i cant travel tomorrow due to family circumstances) or else to the airport on sunday morning to pass on to Gerry or Ronan?

[barnestormer]

hope we get stuck in to these,3 points would be f**kin brilliant YNWA

[TrueRed92]

3 points is a must.. after the blackburn game we really need 2 go on a good run and start 2 move up the table...

[sallycinnamon]

Obviously I'd love a win tomorrow but if we at least draw with the same performance as last week I think I'd still be happy because aslong as we keep playing like we did for 70 against Blackburn a decent run will be on the way. Free flowing attacking football with the same determination as last week and I'll have a smile on my face tomorrow.

[bono]

Any word on the team for this one.

[rafalabamba]

Win here and we're 3 points behind Spurs and 5 behind City, come on Reds lets start our season here, Is johnson back for this?

[crumlin red]

attack,attack,attack,attack,attack

3 points is a must C'MON REDMEN

[Rover 609]

Reina
Konchesky
Kyrgiakos
Carragher
Skrtel
Raul Meireles
Gerrard
Cole
Maxi
Lucas
Torres

[Skintown Red]

Reina
Konchesky
Kyrgiakos
Carragher
Skrtel
Raul Meireles
Gerrard
Cole
Maxi
Lucas
Torres

Same again then

[Rover 609]

Same again then

So i believe

[Skintown Red]

So i believe

Can't really argue with that then. Best performance of the season (not hard) so no need to change things round. Can't say anybody is really banging on the door apart from maybe kelly and Aurelio to be included.

[Rover 609]

Just backed Torres to score anytime tomorrow at 6/4,very confident he'll score but less so about us winning,gut feeling is we'll sneak it but i wouldnt put money on it.

[FiveStarKopite]

Come on you Red Men get the finger out this afternoon. Need a win with city and the yids losing. Kyrgiakos for the winner!!

[KEITHO M]

Badly need 3 points tomorrow as we're playing Chelsea next week and we'd be doing well to get anything out of that. So if we don't win tomorrow we could be in bigger trouble.

[Maverick]

We need to be beating Bolton if theres any intent there to better our situation.We should be attacking from the off and leave off the negative attitude for tougher games.There is no excuse to fear Bolton regardless of how they are playing.A win is crucial today to build confidence and morale and help us back to where we belong.Come on Roy the emphasis is on you to set us up because we are more than capable of beating this shower.Back to back wins please.Hopefully Nando puts on a show today.

[glen]

a win today and almost top half just goal difference stoping that plus where only 3 points behind spurs in 5th and 5 behind city in that champions league spot and they seem to have a lot of trouble behind the scenes but we have to win today any other result is a bad result

[MR KING KENNY]

after lasts weeks game im looking forward to this game, dont know if its just me but feel like we can go on from last week, id say 2 nil. come on liverpool

[up the pool]

id still be a bit wary to be honest but i hope we can kick on from here now

[harrybosch]

this on tv anywhere???....

[MR KING KENNY]

yeah its on sky is it not

[Maverick]

Yep sky sports at 4.00

[Ron1892]

Have to watch this on a stream,as i cant get out to the pub,as ive no car...:(

[reddy]

yeah its on sky is it not



Tis on sky,,,,,,,,come on Redmen !!!!

[reddy]

Have to watch this on a stream,as i cant get out to the pub,as ive no car...:(

Bad luck there ,,,,If I lived anywhere near you I would have
gave you a lift .

[Ron1892]

Fat Sam and Keys doing the Liverpool game today..Expect some Rafa bashing on this one...

[Ron1892]

Bad luck there ,,,,If I lived anywhere near you I would have
gave you a lift .

Ahh cheers Mate..Just hoping the pick up a decent stream as its on sky..

Any way, any time i watch Liverpool in the Boozer, which has been all season, we have played shit..

[garyc]

Massively important game today................with city and spurs both loosing yesterday its a great chance to claw back a few points on the two teams who are most likely gonna be scrappin for 4th come the end of the season!!
if we win it will bosst confidence and maybe allow us to put a bit of a string of results together and take a bitta heat of Woy, loose and we are right back to square one!!

[Sarge]

How unhappy did the lads look arriving at the game, sweet jaysus not good.

[Ron1892]

it's: Reina, Konchesky, Carragher, Kyrgiakos, Skrtel, Lucas, Meireles, Maxi, Cole, Gerrard, Torres.

[Captain_Morgan]

No surprises with that team

[Ron1892]

subs..Hansen, Poulsen, Jovanovic, Spearing, Kelly, Shelvey, Ngog

[born red 79]

Any streams for this?

[D7Hooper]

Any streams for this?

Closer to kick off there'll be a few

[LFC Barry]

Our bench looks very weak today

[LFC Barry]

Any streams for this?

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=91326&part=sports

[LFC1979]

I had 50 euro on newcastle to win ht/ft at 11/4 going on to liverpool to win ht/ft at 11/4 .come on liverpool

[reddy]

just lookin at Nando warming up . The lad does not look interested .
Might be me but,,,,,,,,,,,ah, come on Reds

[prendy]

subs..Hansen, Poulsen, Jovanovic, Spearing, Kelly, Shelvey, Ngog

is babel and pacheco injured?

Light enough on the bench.

[born red 79]

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=91326&part=sports

Nice one kid

[Ron1892]

is babel and pacheco injured?

Light enough on the bench.

Pacheco has a Hip Injury appartently..

Dont know about Babel..

[Sarge]

just lookin at Nando warming up . The lad does not look interested .
Might be me but,,,,,,,,,,,ah, come on Reds

Said that on previous page, we are not a happy camp at all. Very worrying

[F@ces]

I bought a 2 month pass for £6 from http://www.liveonlinefooty.com/amember/signup.php. Only watched one game so far (Blackburn), but am highly impressed. Stream didn't drop or lag once. Quality is very decent. Would recommend. You can also do a day pass for £2. I love it as I never have to worry now about finding a stream or it being poor.

[MrsPepe]

Paid the 2 quid last week frank, its an excellent site, would recommend myself if you dont have sky 6 quid for 60 days access is a no brainer

[clayton]

YNWA.

come on lads..

[F@ces]

Paid the 2 quid last week frank, its an excellent site, would recommend myself if you dont have sky 6 quid for 60 days access is a no brainer

Big time Maj. I'm glad I cancelled all my sports channels - saving a fortune!

[clayton]

i hope the greek takes davies and skrtl takes elmander.. it would make sense

[prendy]

I bought a 2 month pass for £6 from http://www.liveonlinefooty.com/amember/signup.php. Only watched one game so far (Blackburn), but am highly impressed. Stream didn't drop or lag once. Quality is very decent. Would recommend. You can also do a day pass for £2. I love it as I never have to worry now about finding a stream or it being poor.

CHeers mate that excellent.

[liverirish]

That seems interesting will it work immediately

[randywatson]

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=91326&part=sports

how do you them sopcast thingys to work?

do you have to download some programme or something?

[F@ces]

CHeers mate that excellent.

Welcome mate.

[MrsPepe]

That seems interesting will it work immediately

Yep it will

[prendy]

That seems interesting will it work immediately

I just paid by paypal and am watching straight away, paid €7.10 for 60 days. wud have spent that on lucozade in the pub if I went across.

[CrazyHorse]

Wow.... not like Nando at all there...

[Ron1892]

if he had of been a confident torres he would have smashed that in..

[prendy]

Wow.... not like Nando at all there...

he should have burried that, great chance ...very poor by torres standards.

[CrazyHorse]

he should have burried that, great chance ...very poor by torres standards.

True, but he's very involved in the game so far, which is a good thing.
Initially put pressure on the defender that led to the stray pass.

I think if he gets another one like that, expect the net to bulge.
Positive opening 10 minutes from us I think.

[MrsPepe]

thank fcuk for Pepe

[CrazyHorse]

Good stop Pepe!

[MR KING KENNY]

great noice coming from our end

[KK1977]

Looks like a lower main camera angle at the Reebok

[sallycinnamon]

Lads any score ? and are we playing well ? cant get those links working :-(

[CrazyHorse]

Advanatge FFS...

[CrazyHorse]

Lads any score ? and are we playing well ? cant get those links working :-(

Still scoreless, and we're playing fairly well. Just a little scrappy in the final third, Gerrard & Torres look lively. Lucas and Soto having very good games so far.

[sallycinnamon]

Still scoreless, and we're playing fairly well. Just a little scrappy in the final third, Gerrard & Torres look lively. Lucas and Soto having very good games so far.

Good stuff. Cheers

[CrazyHorse]

Good football, and not like Gerrard to drag a shot wide like that....

[MrsPepe]

No way was that a foul ffs

[Ron1892]

Joe cole seems to have alot of space down that side..

[CrazyHorse]

Joe cole seems to have alot of space down that side..

He does, but he also seems very reluctant to take on his man, instead sending the ball infield, which is easy for Bolton to deal with most of the time.

[MR KING KENNY]

not a bad half, lads to up the game for the next 45.

[mascherIANO]

we need to get konchesky pushed on a bit more i think as someone said a lot of space down that side.

[General]

Still scoreless, and we're playing fairly well. Just a little scrappy in the final third, Gerrard & Torres look lively. Lucas and Soto having very good games so far.

I must be watching a different game...... don't think I've ever seen Torres less lively!!

[CrazyHorse]

not a bad half, lads to up the game for the next 45.

Agreed, a little bit of a raise in tempo and guile and we'll open these lot up.

Contained Bolton quite easily with Soto completely dominant in CB, delighted he got the nod this week again.

My only concern is that they've had a couple of pen shouts that the ref turned down, but we can't afford any more of those, sooner or later the ref will give one.

[CHARMAC]

I bought a 2 month pass for £6 from http://www.liveonlinefooty.com/amember/signup.php. Only watched one game so far (Blackburn), but am highly impressed. Stream didn't drop or lag once. Quality is very decent. Would recommend. You can also do a day pass for £2. I love it as I never have to worry now about finding a stream or it being poor.

I've been using that site for the last couple of seasons, excellent quality stream
last season you could get 90 days for £9 it also shows some pay for view boxing
well worth it if you ask me ;)

[Sarge]

I must be watching a different game...... don't think I've ever seen Torres less lively!!

Yip agree he does not look arsed.

[prendy]

we have passed the ball a bit better than in previous games, no width from either wing is crowding out gerrard and torres's space.

I do think we'll score in the second half though.

COMON YOU REDMEN

[CrazyHorse]

I must be watching a different game...... don't think I've ever seen Torres less lively!!

He's shown for the ball every time we've got forward, and he looks alot fitter then in recent games.

However, his first touch not being great, and hence giving the ball away, should not be mistaken for looking lively.

He's getting there and if he gets a chance like he did in the first few minutes, Ive every confidence in him finding the net.

[Maverick]

We luck very poor in the final 3rd.Good moves have been spoiled by lacklustre finishing.Soto has been commanding in the air.Joe cole and maxi are not staying out wide and the middle of the park is far too congested making it easier for Bolton.Come on lads ffs

[Maverick]

Personally IMO I think nando is playing very poorly.His first touch has been poor to be honest.I know he's on his own up there but he should still get on with it.

[Ron1892]

we look very nervous at the back..Lack of confidence id imagine..

[prendy]

we look very nervous at the back..Lack of confidence id imagine..

I was going to say that about us up front...

[wheeliekop]

just in lads...any links??

[CrazyHorse]

Personally IMO I think nando is playing very poorly.His first touch has been poor to be honest.I know he's on his own up there but he should still get on with it.

My comment about Nando looking lively was just that, and I also agree his first touch has been dreadful so far.

He looks like he's lacking confidence but he is not shying away from the ball whatsoever.

[Sarge]

Its here for the taking if we get wide leaving space in the middle and up the tempo a bit more.

But Roy will make changes to scupper that.

[Maverick]

I was going to say that about us up front...

I would have to agree prendy and bigron

[Sea Bass]

Torres has been dreadful for 6 months now, he's completely out of sorts. He might nick one later but his touch, movement, everything is brutal. I don't think he wants to be here anymore and it's hard to blame him.

[CrazyHorse]

Cole hamstring gone.... FFS

[megager]

Form temporary, class permanant I have to keep telling myself this watching Torres over the past 6 months. He has been kak. He maybe spent. Owen went the same way at the same age. Id bring Ngog on. Why not. Give nando some support cos he wont do it on his own today.

Jesus we really need a new striker in January to ease the burden and pressure on El Nino

[Sea Bass]

Form temporary, class permanant I have to keep telling myself this watching Torres over the past 6 months. He has been kak. He maybe spent. Owen went the same way at the same age. Id bring Ngog on. Why not. Give nando some support cos he wont do it on his own today.

Jesus we really need a new striker in January to ease the burden and pressure on El Nino

He'll come good again because he's an outstanding player but it seems as if his head just isn't right.

[CrazyHorse]

Jesus we really need a new striker in January to ease the burden and pressure on El Nino

This really is the biggest problem, since joining us Torres has had to deal with all the aggression he's had to deal with and the weight of being the goal scorer.

If ever he needed someone up top to help him, it's now.

[CrazyHorse]

SOTO so close........

[Sarge]

**** me that was a peno.

[MrsPepe]

jesus, peno shout right there

[CrazyHorse]

**** me that was a peno.

Yep, both Soto & Skrtel pushed Davies there...

[Bez Bing]

In fairness to Torres, the amount of comment that follows everything he does is mad. People trying to read into his body language, jumping on every little poor touch. Yes he has been a little off so far this season but so has the whole team. Lets not forget he has got the winner in both games we have won this season.
He seems to be playing better now since Ngog came on

[MrsPepe]

Nice try there Maxi

[KK1977]

Maxi almost repeated his Mexico goal

[CrazyHorse]

Maxi almost wonder goal!!!!!

[Sarge]

In fairness to Torres, the amount of comment that follows everything he does is mad. People trying to read into his body language, jumping on every little poor touch. Yes he has been a little off so far this season but so has the whole team. Lets not forget he has got the winner in both games we have won this season.
He seems to be playing better now since Ngog came on

But do you think he looks like he wants to be on that pitch?

[Sarge]

Closer that Pepe thought i think.

[CrazyHorse]

But do you think he looks like he wants to be on that pitch?

Absolutely, as I said, he has not once shyed away from the ball today, he's put his body on the line time and again.

He looks alot happier alongside N'gog now.

[Ron1892]

**** me that was close from Davis..

[MrsPepe]

jesus that was too bloody close

[Bez Bing]

But do you think he looks like he wants to be on that pitch?

Honestly, yes, I dont see much difference between him this season and last. Hes obviously gonna be a bit happier when hes in among the goals, but hes putting himself about as much IMO.

[Sea Bass]

In fairness to Torres, the amount of comment that follows everything he does is mad. People trying to read into his body language, jumping on every little poor touch. Yes he has been a little off so far this season but so has the whole team. Lets not forget he has got the winner in both games we have won this season.
He seems to be playing better now since Ngog came on
You don't go from being the best striker in the world to being a guy that looks barely Premiership standard for no reason. Something is clearly up.

[Sarge]

Lucas get your fookin head on that son!!!!

[CrazyHorse]

Lucas jumped under the ball...... OMG!!

[MR KING KENNY]

come on liverpool

[prendy]

torres limping??

He has looked way more involved since were gone 442 and gerrard playing deeper.

[CrazyHorse]

But do you think he looks like he wants to be on that pitch?

Would you say he didn't want to be on the pitch with the Spanish during the World Cup also???

Because his body language then was 10 times worse than what it is today....

[Sarge]

Ngog playing well. I think he will be a fine player for us.

[MR KING KENNY]

10 mins left, need to get lucas off, he offers **** all going forward

[Bez Bing]

10 mins left, need to get lucas off, he offers **** all going forward

Thought Lucas was/is having a good game

[bryanod]

fuciking excellent ball from lucas in the build get the **** in!!!!

lovely from torres really woken up second half so he has.

[prendy]

getttttt innnnnn



YYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[CrazyHorse]

Lucas having a very good game doing the job he's been asked to do.

[Pool4Life]

yes yes yes yeeessssss!!!!!!!!!

[TrueRed92]

tank god!! great finish

[MR KING KENNY]

yesssssssssssssssss get in

[Bez Bing]

Who set that up????? Form class etc!

[up the pool]

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssss s get in maxi:D:D:D:D:D

[LFC1979]

Great goal

[MrsPepe]

MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

You beauty, GET IN!!

christ the scream I let out scared the kids outiside

[CrazyHorse]

TORRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS with the assist!!!!

Been involved with every goal since the Arsenal game, either scoring or assisting.

Well done Maxi!!

[Ron1892]

Happy Days..Lets hope we hang on in there..

[stevieg05]

A little bit of genius from Torres, what a flick, and well finished by maxi, guna b a long few mins :D

[up the pool]

typical as soon as we score link goes:mad:

[Sarge]

Bolton bring Poulsen on.

[Sea Bass]

Savage great stuff, link went down, what happened, did the legend himself come good?

[Bez Bing]

Whats the Maxi song coming from our end?

[LFC1979]

4 mins

[Pool4Life]

4 feckin minutes

[Sea Bass]

linki needed?

[MrsPepe]

Whats the Maxi song coming from our end?

To the tune of heartbeat

Please hang on!!

[LFC1979]

bolton bring poulsen on.

thats harsh

[prendy]

great noise from our end all game yet again, they are a credit to our club.

[Sarge]

thats harsh

No its not :D

[Bez Bing]

To the tune of heartbeat

Please hang on!!

Ha ha nice! Couldnt think of the tune. Great noise from our end all through the game!

[MR KING KENNY]

yes another 3 points

[Sarge]

5 points off 5th. Still need a couple of quality players in and a new manager.

[prendy]

FT 0-1

up to 12th.


happy.

[Pool4Life]

Great win. ngog has to start against the chavs. Torres could not even manage a smile at the whistle.

[stevieg05]

Thats a great win, fair play to the manager and players, not too many go to bolton and come away with 3 points, hopefuly a bit of a more positive vibe around now, onwards and upwards!

[fermoyred80]

Ngog allowed us to be more creative up front when he came on. Thought Lucas was solid throughout as well as the greek. Maxi was poor but the goal was well taken all be it very lucky.

[CrazyHorse]

First of all, great credit to the fans, they outsang the home fans all game!!!

Torres ran himself into the ground all day, alot of people mistaking him not giving a bollox with him not having a great game, open your eyes......

He kept going till the death and he played the ball into Maxi to get us the win.

Soto & Skrtel were excellent today, as was Lucas.

When N'gog came on, and Gerrard dropped back into midfield we looked a much better team.
Torres came into the game more with N'gog as a foil.

All in all, a great result today considering our season so far.

[carramagic]

Jesus will people ever give over - commenting on every bloody thing about Torres every second. Yes he's been off form for a while but how many premier league wins would we have without him? - zero. Winner last week and set up the goal with a touch of class this week. He's probably not happy with where we are at the mo but who is. Maybe if people keep moaning about him it will become a self fulfilling prophecy and he'll leave - sick of the stick he's getting from some fans

[bobby benitez]

Watched that in Spanish, goals are so much better when the commentary is in Spanish:D

The lads showed today that when we get it down and pass it quickly we are a good team.

[Bez Bing]

Great win. ngog has to start against the chavs. Torres could not even manage a smile at the whistle.

So? Come on mate he set up the goal, put in a good shift, why did you see the need to have dig at him?

[MR KING KENNY]

ffs torres not smiling.... when does the moaning stop

[KEITHO M]

Great result another 3 vital points. Get in there.

[Pool4Life]

So? Come on mate he set up the goal, put in a good shift, why did you see the need to have dig at him?
Not having a dig at him just stating what i seen. I agree he played ok and set up the goal but still looks disillusioned.

[CrazyHorse]

Not having a dig at him just stating what i seen. I agree he played ok and set up the goal but still looks disillusioned.

What I seen was 100% effort from him today, and a hand in the winning goal, thats all that ****ing counts in my book!

[Gerry]

Maxi maxi rodriguez runs down the wing for me do do do do do do do do do

[babbsnads]

First of all, great credit to the fans, they outsang the home fans all game!!!

Torres ran himself into the ground all day, alot of people mistaking him not giving a bollox with him not having a great game, open your eyes......

He kept going till the death and he played the ball into Maxi to get us the win.

Soto & Skrtel were excellent today, as was Lucas.

When N'gog came on, and Gerrard dropped back into midfield we looked a much better team.
Torres came into the game more with N'gog as a foil.

All in all, a great result today considering our season so far.
Agree with everything you said there pal except the bit about nando. I'm not a body language expert so I'm not going to try and read it but whatever about his touch not being great,his confidence being low the very least you expect from anyone is 100% effort and there's no way he worked hard enough in the first half. The second half he was much brighter and ngog obviously helped because he done great when he came on.
Make no mistake,that's a great 3 points and hopefully that will take some pressure off. Both centre halfs were excellent,Lucas played well and maxi and Gerard were decent. I think 442 is definitely the way to go because ngog deserves to play and Torres needs some help up there.

[SUPERFAN]

Maxi maxi rodriguez runs down the wing for me do do do do do do do do do

it's de de de de de de de de de de..:D
bet you're glad ye went now...

[Ron1892]

12th in the table now..Stick that up your hole robbie savage..

[Paddser]

Maxi maxi rodriguez runs down the wing for me do do do do do do do do do

:D

[KEITHO M]

Originally Posted by sarge
5 points off 5th. Still need a couple of quality players in and a new manager.
5 points of 4th

[CrazyHorse]

Agree with everything you said there pal except the bit about nando. I'm not a body language expert so I'm not going to try and read it but whatever about his touch not being great,his confidence being low the very least you expect from anyone is 100% effort and there's no way he worked hard enough in the first half. The second half he was much brighter and ngog obviously helped because he done great when he came on.
Make no mistake,that's a great 3 points and hopefully that will take some pressure off. Both centre halfs were excellent,Lucas played well and maxi and Gerard were decent. I think 442 is definitely the way to go because ngog deserves to play and Torres needs some help up there.

I don't think Nando had a great game by his standards at all.

But read back a few pages and you'll see some posters saying he didn't look bothered... thats what I was getting at with the "100% effort" comment as that has got to be your starting point for any team, nevermind Liverpool FC.

He's struggled since the bckend of last year, through the world cup and into this season.
But he's gotten us 2 winning goals and set up the winner today to get us our 3 wins to date. As I said, his contribution this season doesn't seem or is as much as his last few with us, but what he has given us this year has been vitaly important.

I can't wait till he's 100% fit again and happy in his own ability/confidence.

[General]

Great 3 points. Ngog made the difference for me. Have to be honest though - we're still poor. Torres definitely improved when Ngog came on but overall his performance was lacklustre. I love him like every other red but something is amiss...

Lively to me means bursting a gut, closing down at every opportunity and being on your toes at all times in case the ball comes your way. What we saw from him today nost certainly wasn't lively. He tried, and kept going even though his touch and his passing was awful, but that does not constitute liveliness!! Nando gave the best performance I have ever witnessed from any centre forward at Anfield v Real Madrid a couple of years ago. He is currently a shadow of that player.... and it's not out of order to say that his body language is not positive for his team...it's a fact. He walked past Maxi at the end with a scowl on his face and headed for the tunnel.

Anyway, positive is we kept a clean sheet and got the 3 points. Confidence will be lifted another little bit and we can improve again. Pints!!

[Ron1892]

8guCwGkotz0

[D7Hooper]

Solid if uninspiring performance, three points is the key.

[rafalabamba]

Still not a great performance, some terrible touches and passes from our frontmen, especially Nando and then he pulls out the backheel!!Just delighted we got the three points today, we really only should of drew but its about time we got some luck. Delighted for Maxi he got that goal, might give him a confidence boost, had a good attempt with that overhead, Soto and Skrtel were immense again, hurts to say it but Carra shouldent be starting when we've got Johnson back, fair play to him though, he doesnt like playing Rb but has done a good job of it whenever he needs to, cant see us getting much out of Chelsea but this could be a kick up in the a**e

[K1lladeer]

great result..2 on the bounce..roll on the chavs now. Lets all get behind roy and the lads.

[up the pool]

i expect us to have a right go off the chavs now;)

[Axel96]

Great to get 3 points at Bolton...but not a great performance, gave away the ball far to easy..bit of luck as well...a win is a win!

[Liverpool-law]

It's all about results when you are in the relegation zone but in the first half we were slow, sloppy and predictable. Joe Cole seriously needs to get the finger out. He's not worth 90 quid a week at the moment, nevermind 90k. Great result but the performance will not scare Chelsea. The fixture list is really f***ing us this year, what we really need now is West Ham at home, not Chelsea.

[Derekc]

great to get a win in hard match, didn't play great but win is a win, 2 good results sets up nicely for chelsea game now

[K1lladeer]

i remember being at the first game of the season seeing all the jerseys with cole on the back..i was saying to myself..why are so many lfc fans having this lads name on their jersey..he hasnt done a thing for us yet. He would seriously want to get his act together. Lets hope he starts v the chavs.

[rafalabamba]

Anyone know anything about Cole's injury?

[Derekc]

Anyone know anything about Cole's injury?

Roy Hodgson is waiting to discover the extent of Joe Cole's injury with the England international set to have a scan on his hamstring on Monday.

Liverpool's No.10 was forced off the field during the 1-0 win over Bolton Wanderers and the Reds boss is hoping the scan will be a positive outcome.

"Joe has a slight hamstring injury so he will have a scan tomorrow," said Hodgson.

"Hopefully he will be ok but I can't say how long he will be out until we get the results of the scan.

"Often these muscle injuries always seem to take ten days to two weeks, but I know Joe will be keen to be fit for Chelsea next weekend. We'll have to wait and see."


i think his injury was a blessing in disguise tbh. was poor and once ngog came on we played alot better

[K1lladeer]

i remember being at the first game of the season seeing all the jerseys with cole on the back..i was saying to myself..why are so many lfc fans having this lads name on their jersey..he hasnt done a thing for us yet. He would seriously want to get his act together. Lets hope he starts v the chavs.

[byrnetred]

Good win good day out pity one of the lads got nicked, gmp wankers......

[Beanokelly]

Delighted with the win.I thought Torres was muck in the first half I was calling for him to be replaced by Ngog, who when he did come on then Torres started to look interested maybe he wants to play with a striker partner instead of Gerrard behind in the hole.But all in all onwards and upwards keep it up Roy

[carramagic]

Couple of photos from the game on the official site showing Nando celebrating the goal and what's that on his face ....... a smile! Just posting that as some people on here seem to be going on and on negatively about him at the moment. He'll come good - he's a class act and the goals will come soon

[mushypea]

A performance that again left a lot to be desired but a well hard fought 3 points all the same.

Well done Redmen. Now step up a gear & lets get right into the next few games and a proper go at the chavs.

[reddy]

3 points now is massive as we are halfway up the table. I dont want to say any more
re Nando - said me bit earleir . I dont mind being shot down for this BUT,,,,,,it seems
to me half the team are at war . I have played meself ,,,when you walk on say for the
second half you look at your team mates and gee em on , you are smiling at one
another and making one another confident . I saw the lads avoiding eye contact.
Please ,,please correct me if I"m wrong ---I bet theres trouble afoot . Christ knows
we have had enough bleedin trouble ,,,,just hope Im wrong,,,,,,,Y N W A .

[Maverick]

Poor performance but obviously happy with the 3pts.Still too many passengers not performing for the team.Joe cole and Torres today in particular IMO.

[Gray72]

Absolutely woeful again. The difference is a clean sheet and 3 points. It is a real concern to see this team playing with so many players off their game. Torres poor, Gerrard woeful, Cole absent not to mention to two central midfielders who were pedestrian. The back four were solid but Carragher gives me nightmares at right back. Ah well Chelsea next, we'll need to be 100% better.

[glen]

delighted with the win its all about grinding out results chelsea and arsenal did it yesterday and we did it today a good win away from home and a clean sheet

[CrazyHorse]

Highlights of todays game is on MOTD2 right now if anyone is interested.

[Span Molby]

Wasnt a great performance, but better teams than us will go there this year and get less than we did. Onwards and upwards. Roll on the Chavs next week

[maloneavic]

Just back from the match there, wrecked after the whole day.

Thought it wasnt a great game and end 0-0 untill maxi popped up, scrappy game and we played way to deep at times, if we had gone with 2 up front we would have won it easily.

Was in the lower and althought it wasnt a great atmosphere it was much better then i expected, and the last 20 mins it got real good, away end went crazy when we scored and that maxi song went on for around 5 mins after, i love it.

Saw 2 guys thrown out in our end but dont know why and at least 4 bolton fans got in the away end and got thrown out to.

[Carroll9]

It was a poor performance but delighted with the win.Difficult to find too many positives from the 1st half but the 2nd was a vast improvement.Think we just about deserved the win.

[Ron1892]

http://c0013533.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_33b2e02

[Carroll9]

:D:D
Priceless.And we're not getting carried away.

[bono]

Highlights


http://www.footytube.com/video/bolton-wanderers-liverpool-oct31-62510

[miked]

Delighted to get the 3 points but its srange how we can play well for one week,imo anyway, and then its straight back to same old same old the week after, we need a big performance from the lads against chelsea and I have a feeling we will get it.

[Bren100]

They had good chances to win it too. Carra played a dangerous game putting his arms around Davies but a win is a win.

[clayton]

what would you's give Meireles out of 10 lads?

[Derekc]

what would you's give Meireles out of 10 lads?

5. i thought he was really poor and lucas was our best midfielder. (i do like him though just thought he was poor)

[Maverick]

what would you's give Meireles out of 10 lads?

6 maybe 6.5 at best.I don't blame him as I don't think he's accustomed to playing the way Roy has sent him out.I thought he gave away the ball too often but that was mainly down to the fact he was looking to move forward most of the time which IMO is refreshing.Still finding his feet at the moment but I have a very good feeling about him.

[Malzheimer]

Thought it was a godsend when Cole pulled up injured. He was shocking again and offers us no width. He has to be played behind Nando or not at all. Ngog was class at holding the ball up when he came on, hopefully play two up top next week against Chavs but doubt it.

Nando does not look fit to me and is it just me or does he look heavy and laboured? Big arse syndrome? Great flick for goal and I love the man but he does not look anywhere near himself fitness/touch and sharpness wise.

Not the best performance but a lot of teams will struggle at the Reebok this year like the scum did. Well done Roy and the lads.

[Liverpool-law]

I actually thought that Torres was starting to show glimpses of his former self today. Went through or around a few defenders in the second half, didn't have the end product but looks a bit sharper. Another game or two with the same development and he'll be a real threat.

We looked like a team still without belief. There were a few breaks that nearly came off and we could've won by a few. That said I thought Bolton should've had a pen too. If we can somehow pull off a win against Chelsea the bounce would be back in their step. Likewise a loss now when we're not back to our best could be a big setback for confidence and morale. It's a difficult time, there are games to build on after the Chelsea match and given the current circumstances if you gave me a nil nil now I'd take it. IMO it's not defeatist, I think realistically we need to avoid defeat and things could look a lot brighter with Wigan Stoke and West Ham to come with a bit of confidence and momentum behind us.

[redspider]

Bolton 0 Liverpool 1
- Maxi 86

Well, that was a welcome 3 points for Liverpool. It was far from an exemplary display though and we had some fortune to take the win in a match that was fairly even. We had more footballing scoring opportunities perhaps but Bolton had a few close chances and this match could have gone either way.

Hodgson picked the exact same team as the last time, again with Gerrard in the advanced midfield role. However, when N’Gog came on and switched to 4-4-2, Liverpool created more space – discussed below. The team were started 4-2-3-1 as follows:

----------------------- Reina ---------------------
Carragher - Kyrgiakos – Skrtel - Konchesky
------------- Lucas ---------- Meireles ----------
---- Maxi ---------- Gerrard ---------- Cole ----
----------------------- Torres ---------------------

Subs: N’Gog for Cole on 61 mins, Poulsen for Meireles on 89 mins

Liverpool had the better of the first half and were combining reasonably well, with Gerrard and Torres attempting to link up with Cole and Maxi. Maxi played reasonably well again I thought and was involved in several of the chances. Much of course has been written and spoken about Torres. He may not be at his perfect best, but he is still an awesome player. Gerrard was involved again but wasn’t at his perfect best either.

Indeed it was Fernando that had the first chance when he met a Gerrard corner to head it close over the bar. It was Gerrard and Torres again a few minutes later when they combined to put Torres through on goal. Nando could have hit it first time on his right foot but selected instead to take it inside only to see his window of opportunity close as he hurried a poke with his left. In hindsight first time would have been the best option. Then Maxi nearly threaded a ball through to Torres with some good smart running through from Fernando but the pass was a little too heavy and was cleared by Jaaskelainen.

Then Bolton had a chance when Holden struck a volley with pace from outside the box but it was too close to Reina who saved well. It showed however that Bolton weren’t going to be a walkover. Carragher was under a bit of pressure and tackled awkwardly to penalty claims and then was caught for pace getting back to cover and jumped to block a cross only for the ball to graze his arm. The penalty shouts were ignored and rightly so as it would have been very harsh. Still, these can be given and it does show that Carra is by no means quality enough I think to play at right back for us as he just lacks enough pace.

Maxi was then involved for us as he set-up Gerrard for a shot from just outside the box but his shot went quite wide - so no magic goal from Stevie G.

Liverpool at the start of the 2nd half were able to hold their own and create some half-chances but none of significance. Then Cole picked up an injury giving N’Gog a chance. N’Gog went into the forward line but his main usefulness consisted of tying up a Bolton defender. Liverpool were 4-4-2 with Gerrard playing slightly deeper and on the right, and Maxi on the left. But with N’Gog up front this gave Torres better support and more room to operate and fewer markers.

Then from a corner, Kyrgiakos had a header that just went over. This was followed by a flamboyant Liverpool move between Maxi, Gerrard and a Torres header back which resulted in a flashy overhead from Maxi from the edge of the box just going over brushing the top of the net.

Then Bolton had a flurry of chances - first a weak penalty shout for a push, then a good save from Reina, then a headed corner just over, then a shot just wide followed by an inswinging free-kick which was glanced by Davies deep in the box but which went inches narrowly wide with Reina beaten. That was a real let-off for us. Had that gone in I think we would have lost and it would be all doom and gloom in any post-match discussion. That’s football.

But for once, lady luck was on our side. It was Lucas who collected the ball deep in their half with Bolton pressed back. He fed a pass to Torres on the left of their box who backheeled it through the legs of the Bolton defender and into the path of Maxi who had made a run from ‘deep’. Due to N’Gog’s presence across the 18 yard line, Maxi was able to get through into this space unfollowed and get off a toe-poke shot from close range which squirmed under the hand of Jaaskelainen, bouncing up and hitting the bar before landing in. Not the best finish in the world but a reasonable one, and a reasonable move from Liverpool.

It was enough to claim all 3 points. The tally at the end of the match read Bolton’s 14 attempts to Liverpool’s 10 attempts, matching the closeness of this game. Both teams had chances, and there should have been more goals and its arguable who had the best chances. It was not a classic match though.

This result puts Liverpool on 12 points from 10 games, so we are now 3 points behind Spurs who are in 5th place and 5 points behind Man City in 4th. Our chances of getting in the top-4 may still be slim, but points-wise, we certainly have a fighting chance of that.

So, what to conclude from that game? Liverpool did well against Blackburn, dominated them in fact, but with this match against Bolton it shows that when teams are better we are just about able to compete with them and no more. The fact that it took N’Gog’s “presence” to help us score exemplifies that we are just not good enough to break teams open and to get enough goals with our preferred formation of 4-2-3-1. It is a good formation for us, but its not giving us enough goals with the personnel that we have.

People talk about confidence. I’m not so sure about that. A lot of players get a lot of opportunities in matches and only some of those come good. We are like any other team in that regard except that we are just not creating enough opportunities. Football is a sport of probability. If we or any team keep doing the right things, it will come good most of the time. There of course will always be off days. But we are just not creating enough of the good things, we are not doing enough things right, and when the luck goes against us it can result in pretty bad results indeed.

I don’t have confidence in our mental position and attitude though. The players do battle to some degree, but where is the digging deep spirit, the Istanbul all-or-nothing fight? Are players really putting their hearts on the line each match? I don’t see it anyway. Have players, even the likes of Stevie G, lost just a small percentage of their personal fight? Carragher is being let down by his body and age. Time waits for no man. Others don’t have excuses, and indeed have never shown the spirit that Fans demand. Overall though, we just don’t have enough good players in all the positions, but that perhaps is stating the obvious. With all out efforts though, we could certainly do better. And here I don’t think Hodgson is a figure that motivates enough. He seems too ‘old school’, too comfortable and doesn’t seem to have the right type of passion.

Next up its Chelsea in the league on Sunday at 4pm. I fear we will lose that one. The players will do us ok, I would hope, it may only be 1 or 2-0 or something, but I cant see us putting the fear of God into this Chelsea team. Liverpool players may feel the same. But who knows. Its football, lady luck plays a part, and I hope she is playing on our side that day.

Before that its Napoli on Thursday at home. Less luck needed …..

Redspider

http://LiverpoolRedspider.wordpress.com

[merc]

what a sweat. talk about hard earned victory.
Tought to many players were once again playing terrible Nando and Stevie G most of all. Both had great chances to bury the ball in the back of the net and didnt take them. If Nando, Stevie and J Cole were in form we would have killed bolton yesterday.

Just glad f the 3 points in the end, need to pick up the pace big time if we can get any thing next week.