Sunderland (Home Match)

[bobby benitez]

If fathead is laughing at us come 5pm on Saturday I will cry.

[Liverpool-law]

Nothing but a win will do at home to this crowd. Fathead has taken enough points off us over the last few years, need to lay down a marker, season needs to get going from here.

[glen]

only a win here is acceptable nothing else will do

[Coolfran]

Down in Dublin this weekend for a football match with work.

Does anyone know any good pubs near Isaacs Hostel (by the Train Station) which will be showing the game? Cheers

[joe77]

Is the beachball playing???? or is he suspended??http://irishkop.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://irishkop.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Derekc]

Down in Dublin this weekend for a football match with work.

Does anyone know any good pubs near Isaacs Hostel (by the Train Station) which will be showing the game? Cheers

sinnots is a good pub and not to far away, i'd imagine they are showing the game.

regards the match it's a tricky game, fat head as mentioned has taken a fair few points of us, really need the 3 points for confidence

[dk.lfc]

I want to say that we will fly out of the traps, early goal, get stuck in, get the atmosphere going but Im so low in confidence at the minute I dont know how we are going to play.

Need to get the 3 points by hook or by crook

[Captain_Morgan]

game is on setanta

[Ron1892]

going to be a tough game..Lets hope the boys have learned how to deal with Headers over the week..

[Malzheimer]

.......................Pepe....................... ...
Kelly........... Carra........ Skrtel.........PK
Glen....Gerrard...Meireles ..........Cole
...........Ngog.............Torres..............

442 please, time to mix it up.

If Dirks fit put him in for Kelly and swap him and GJ.

Time to step out of Rafas shadow Roy and play your own system.

[GaryMc]

Attack... Attack... Attack, Attack, Attack

If Roy goes into this with a safety first approach I would blow a fuse.

Forget about the opposition.

Play your best 11 players and fckin go for it.

Reina,
Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Konchesky,
Poulsen
Meirles, Gerrard, Cole
Torres, Ngog

No workhorses like Maxi and Jova. Quality players, some good movement and passing and three points. Thanks Roy.

[LFC Barry]

Very worried about saturday now, I'd like to see 2 up front but more importantly, the defence and midfield need to push 20 yards further up the pitch.

We're sitting back so much and just inviting the opposition on to us while totally isolating Torres. Would also like to see Roy give Johnson and Koncheskey more license to get forward

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Very worried about saturday now, I'd like to see 2 up front but more importantly, the defence and midfield need to push 20 yards further up the pitch.

Agree with you in theory but not really an option with Bent running in behind Carra.Just show some fcuking effort and try and pass the ball with a bit of urgency and I'll be satisfied.

[CrazyDaize]

That game last night could make or break our season.

It could either be the kick up the b****x that we need or it could plunge the team into the depths or depression.

Roll on Saturday.

[SUPERFAN]

Down in Dublin this weekend for a football match with work.

Does anyone know any good pubs near Isaacs Hostel (by the Train Station) which will be showing the game? Cheers

I'd say this place should be showing it,probably best to check with them in advance though..
http://www.thevaults.ie/index.php

[Phil!]

Must win game.

Reina
Johnson Agger Carra Konchesky
Gerrard Mereles Poulsen Cole
Torres Ngog

Would be my ideal starting line up I know Gerrard prefers central role but get some class on the wings and improve the service into the forward line!

[djdwainec]

Dreading this match also , maybe just play a 3-5-2 or 3-4-1-2

---------------Reina-------------------
---------Carra Agger Skrtel-------------
Johnson Lucas Mereiles Gerrard Jovanovic
------------Cole Torres----------------

[Liverpool-law]

Dreading this match also , maybe just play a 3-5-2 or 3-4-1-2

---------------Reina-------------------
---------Carra Agger Skrtel-------------
Johnson Lucas Mereiles Gerrard Jovanovic
------------Cole Torres----------------

Now is not the time to be changing the formation again mate, no offence

[glen]

the game is been shown on setanta

[mushypea]

That game last night could make or break our season.

It could either be the kick up the b****x that we need or it could plunge the team into the depths or depression.

Roll on Saturday.

Been thinking that for far too long now myself. How many kicks in the rocks does it take.

[stevieg]

We have a good record against these the last few seasons and with Bramble & Ferdinand their possible centre backs we should be causing them plenty of problems.

Hope we don't see our players stand off them and give them time on the ball and get crosses in.

Come on Redmen

[Derschlimm]

-----------------------Reina---------------------------
Kelly--------Soto----------------Agger--------Konchesky
-----------------------Poulsen-------------------------
Johnson--------------Meirles----------------Cole
-----------------------Gerrard-------------------------
-----------------------Torres------------------------------

Must win game ! Nothing else will do.

[glen]

reina
johno carra agger pk
maxi stevie raul cole
ngog torres

[kingofthekop]

Having read through this thread it struck me that no two post have agreed on the line up/formation.

I wonder is roy having the same problem?

I honestly couldnt predict what team will go out let alone the outcome.

It worries me

[clayton]

It is vital that we attack Sunderland from the off, try to get a goal as quickly as possible. Like the way Man U attacked us from the very start last week.

[Derekc]

i'd really like to see johnson given a go on right wing. not saying he'll be great but at lease we'd know if it's an option and have someone with a bit of pace there

team if i could would be

reina

kelly-----carra-------agger------konchesky

johnson--gerard------Meirles-----kuyt

cole

Torres


not sure if kuyt will be back, this is more of a what team i'd like to play in general anyway

[Maverick]

I'd go for: Reina

Johnson Carra Agger Konchesky

Kuyt Gerrard Meireles Cole

Torres Ngog

It's prob not going to happen but this game is crucial and it's almost a must win at this early stage I feel.

[Maverick]

i'd really like to see johnson given a go on right wing. not saying he'll be great but at lease we'd know if it's an option and have someone with a bit of pace there

team if i could would be

reina

kelly-----carra-------agger------konchesky

johnson-gerard-Meirles-kuyt

cole
Torres
not sure if kuyt will be back, this ir more of a what team i'd like to play in general anyway

+ 1 on your point about Johnson and I've said the same once or twice before as I feel he isn't a great defender but a good footballer.

[Coolfran]

Thanks for the advice re. Dublin pubs lads.

As per the game, I’m usually a staunch advocate of one man up-front (think 4-4-2 is too rigid for ‘modern football’) but, given how impotent we look I feel an extra man will at least stretch Sunderland and hopefully create space. I like N’Gog as a backup but he’s been ostensibly trained to play Torres’ role and I think they are too similar to work together. So I wouldn’t mind Jovanovic getting a game up front. He and Torres both given license to drift (although they’re both inclined to move left so that could be an issue).

Whatever side is selected I really think we need to be looking at winning this by a few for confidence if nothing else. We’re in a perilous position both on/off the pitch so we need something to cheer.

[sallycinnamon]

I couldn't be bothered trying to predict a team because I don't care which 11 start aslong as there is a bit of urgency in our play with some pride and passion. 2 nil Liverpool , Torres and Ngog .

[Derekc]

+ 1 on your point about Johnson and I've said the same once or twice before as I feel he isn't a great defender but a good footballer.

do you think it will ever happen? surely you'd think it will get to the stage where there's nothing to lose by trying it.

[Derekc]

Thanks for the advice re. Dublin pubs lads.

As per the game, I’m usually a staunch advocate of one man up-front (think 4-4-2 is too rigid for ‘modern football’) but, given how impotent we look I feel an extra man will at least stretch Sunderland and hopefully create space. I like N’Gog as a backup but he’s been ostensibly trained to play Torres’ role and I think they are too similar to work together. So I wouldn’t mind Jovanovic getting a game up front. He and Torres both given license to drift (although they’re both inclined to move left so that could be an issue).

Whatever side is selected I really think we need to be looking at winning this by a few for confidence if nothing else. We’re in a perilous position both on/off the pitch so we need something to cheer.

thats a fair point, wouldn't mind it myself

[KK1977]

reina
johno carra agger pk
maxi stevie raul cole
ngog torres

I'd go for this lineup. Although I'm not sure Roy will be that attack minded to leave out both Lucas and Poulsen.

The Carra-Skrtel partnership hasn't been great so far and Agger could add something that has been lacking with some creativity from the back. The way he set up the chance for Jovanovic the other night is a reminder of what he can do.

[prendy]

do you think it will ever happen? surely you'd think it will get to the stage where there's nothing to lose by trying it.

Look at Bale for Spurs, poor defender but good footballer, think Glen is in the smae bracket.

Deffo think its worth a try.

FWIW i'd love to see:

Reina
Kelly-Skyrtle--agger--Pk
-----poulson---
-----------meireles---
Glen---gerrard-----cole---
------Torres--------

[kingofthekop]

Hidgson says noneof the players who played midweek will start. From this im guessing the team will be

.....................Pepe.................
Glen....Carra........Skyrtel....Paul K
..................Poulsen.................
......Maxi......Miereles.....Stevie.......
...................Cole......................
..............Nando.........................

Thats not a bad side by any stretch

[Derekc]

Look at Bale for Spurs, poor defender but good footballer, think Glen is in the smae bracket.

Deffo think its worth a try.
FWIW i'd love to see:

Reina
Kelly-Skyrtle--agger--Pk
-----poulson---
-----------meireles---
Glen---gerrard-----cole---
------Torres--------

yea exactly. maybe we'll get to see it, at least we'd know one way or another if it's an option

[diggy]

Roys press conference comments are disgraceful. I haven't once heard him take any collective responsibility for Wednesday night and now he dismisses the 11 starters from Wednesday night, more of less blaming them entirerly and publicly hanging them out to dry.

If it was anyone else, i'd say he is leading the press a merry dance and we can expect a totally different team to what he has more or less given the press. But I don't think that it is him to lie.

He makes Rafa's man management skills look like Mother Theresa's.

[sallycinnamon]

Roys press conference comments are disgraceful. I haven't once heard him take any collective responsibility for Wednesday night and now he dismisses the 11 starters from Wednesday night, more of less blaming them entirerly and publicly hanging them out to dry.

If it was anyone else, i'd say he is leading the press a merry dance and we can expect a totally different team to what he has more or less given the press. But I don't think that it is him to lie.

He makes Rafa's man management skills look like Mother Theresa's.

I have to agree with you about his press conferences because he doesn't sound very confident in the team's ability but regarding Wednesday they couldn't beat Northampton Town ! ! ! They shouldn't be at the club. I don't give a monkeys what Hodgson's tactics were or team selection they should have won that game no excuses so why should he make excuses for them ?

[kingofthekop]

I have to agree with you about his press conferences because he doesn't sound very confident in the team's ability but regarding Wednesday they couldn't beat Northampton Town ! ! ! They shouldn't be at the club. I don't give a monkeys what Hodgson's tactics were or team selection they should have won that game no excuses so why should he make excuses for them ?

+1

[Liverpool-law]

Roys press conference comments are disgraceful. I haven't once heard him take any collective responsibility for Wednesday night and now he dismisses the 11 starters from Wednesday night, more of less blaming them entirerly and publicly hanging them out to dry.

If it was anyone else, i'd say he is leading the press a merry dance and we can expect a totally different team to what he has more or less given the press. But I don't think that it is him to lie.

He makes Rafa's man management skills look like Mother Theresa's.

WHA??

It was all over the papers yesterday how Roy in the press conference talked about everyone involved being responsible. Saying that no-one who started the game Wednesday is starting tomorrow is not disgraceful, not hanging them out to dry and not leading the press a merry dance. It's what most would expect, he rested the first team and they will play tomorrow.

I'm not sure your post could be any more biased to be honest. Get a grip.

[diggy]

I have to agree with you about his press conferences because he doesn't sound very confident in the team's ability but regarding Wednesday they couldn't beat Northampton Town ! ! ! They shouldn't be at the club. I don't give a monkeys what Hodgson's tactics were or team selection they should have won that game no excuses so why should he make excuses for them ?

Yes, they should have beat Northampton, the players on the bench should have beaten Northampton. But its happened and to move on he needs to get those same players back playing to a standard they should to fit to play at.

Thats the main thing he has to deal with now. Believe it or believe it not, we WILL be using those same players off the bench Saturday and in future games. His comments just dwell on the past and make it sound like he is punishing the players. To me his comments just drive a wedge between him and the players. I have also yet to hear him take any responsiblity for the defeat, he is trying to put all blame and added pressure onto the players. It may be right to do so to a certain extent but the managers who win things are masters of man-management and putting the pressure onto themselves - Fergie, Jose, Wenger will defend their players at all costs.

[diggy]

WHA??

It was all over the papers yesterday how Roy in the press conference talked about everyone involved being responsible. Saying that no-one who started the game Wednesday is starting tomorrow is not disgraceful, not hanging them out to dry and not leading the press a merry dance. It's what most would expect, he rested the first team and they will play tomorrow.

I'm not sure your post could be any more biased to be honest. Get a grip.

Bias???? Against what?

I what a liverpool manager to lead us through the ****ing mess we're in at the minute. If he is looking for shite displays has he not looked at any of our league games, if he was dropping players for shit displays we'd be down to the U17's at this stage. Wednesday night was no worse than Birmingham away, WBA at home, City away.

YNWA and all that - except if you played against Northampton. Those that played on Wednesday should have been slughtered on Thursday but behind closed doors, then come his press conference today he should have drawn a line under it, talked the players up. Instead he has told Steve Bruce his starting 11 for satruday and publicly kicked his players when they down.

[Liverpool-law]

Bias???? Against what?

I what a liverpool manager to lead us through the ****ing mess we're in at the minute. If he is looking for shite displays has he not looked at any of our league games, if he was dropping players for shit displays we'd be down to the U17's at this stage. Wednesday night was no worse than Birmingham away, WBA at home, City away.

YNWA and all that - except if you played against Northampton. Those that played on Wednesday should have been slughtered on Thursday but behind closed doors, then come his press conference today he should have drawn a line under it, talked the players up. Instead he has told Steve Bruce his starting 11 for satruday and publicly kicked his players when they down.

He did no such thing, and you haven't dealt with my post at all. The phrases used in your post are rubbish - he rested the first team and everyone knew that they would start tomorrow. But no, according to you it's a "disgrace" "Leading a merry dance", taking no responsibility (which he already has). In short, nothing you said in your first post is correct. You have the same tone of righteous indignation I'd expect to hear on Joe Duffy, is that where you perfected it?

The obvious bias btw is against the manager, twisting a very simple press conference into "a disgrace" and "hanging players out to dry". And then you go completely off the point in your next post. I repeat, get a grip.

[edcarroll02]

He did no such thing, and you haven't dealt with my post at all. The phrases used in your post are rubbish - he rested the first team and everyone knew that they would start tomorrow. But no, according to you it's a "disgrace" "Leading a merry dance", taking no responsibility (which he already has). In short, nothing you said in your first post is correct. You have the same tone of righteous indignation I'd expect to hear on Joe Duffy, is that where you perfected it?

The obvious bias btw is against the manager, twisting a very simple press conference into "a disgrace" and "hanging players out to dry". And then you go completely off the point in your next post. I repeat, get a grip.

He could get a job doing headlines for Sky!

[diggy]

He did no such thing, and you haven't dealt with my post at all. The phrases used in your post are rubbish - he rested the first team and everyone knew that they would start tomorrow. But no, according to you it's a "disgrace" "Leading a merry dance", taking no responsibility (which he already has). In short, nothing you said in your first post is correct. You have the same tone of righteous indignation I'd expect to hear on Joe Duffy, is that where you perfected it?

The obvious bias btw is against the manager, twisting a very simple press conference into "a disgrace" and "hanging players out to dry". And then you go completely off the point in your next post. I repeat, get a grip.

Well if you are happy then thats fine, I'm not. Disgraceful may have been a strong word more suited to the display on Wednesday night.

I must have missed the memo that said we had a first 11 and a second 11 and thou stall not deviate between that. Are we back in the days of Shankley and Paisley where we only have 13 players capable of playing every staurday? Why should we stick to a rested first 11 that have picked up 5 points in 5 games???

You soldier on and enjoy the game tomorrow, i'll off to bury my head in the sand and listen to Joe Duffy.

[Liverpool-law]

Well if you are happy then thats fine, I'm not. Disgraceful may have been a strong word more suited to the display on Wednesday night.

I must have missed the memo that said we had a first 11 and a second 11 and thou stall not deviate between that. Are we back in the days of Shankley and Paisley where we only have 13 players capable of playing every staurday? Why should we stick to a rested first 11 that have picked up 5 points in 5 games???

You soldier on and enjoy the game tomorrow, i'll off to bury my head in the sand and listen to Joe Duffy.

You are a better fan, Shankley and Paisley sealed the deal for ya. Get a grip

[diggy]

You are a better fan, Shankley and Paisley sealed the deal for ya. Get a grip

Spelling - me :o

Listen, its not about better fans or super fans. In my eyes the main thing is about the protests during and after the game.

I'm just really annoyed at the minute that everything about the club at the minute is going tits up. Hopefully Roy will get things going and the points will build up, I'd not be confident based on displays to date but its what I want to see happen.

I just can't see why his comments didn't mirror those of Gerards yesterday, rally the troops, move on and so forth.

2-1 to liverpool tomorrow by the way.

[Liverpool-law]

We all want the same thing man but not the time for potshots at the manager imo, it won't serve any purpose and we have enough stirring going on from outside the club.

[redabbey]

Hidgson says noneof the players who played midweek will start.

I did not know that Roy actually said that. Can someone provide me with the direct quote.

[byrnetred]

I did not know that Roy actually said that. Can someone provide me with the direct quote.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/hodgson-plans-big-changes

[glen]

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/hodgson-plans-big-changes
that means no jove on the left so if cole playes there that means stevie is behind torres with raul and poulsen in mid and maxi on the right

[redabbey]

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/hodgson-plans-big-changes

Cheers, Davy. I had not seen that and thought I misses him saying it after Wednesday's match.

I like some of the other posters above would have to question the need for Roy to tell the press this.

[sallycinnamon]

Cheers, Davy. I had not seen that and thought I misses him saying it after Wednesday's match.

I like some of the other posters above would have to question the need for Roy to tell the press this.

In fairness it's not like we have a massive squad of superstars to choose from. I think it's irrelevant that he told the press no player starting Saturday will have started Wednesday , ye could figure it out yourself with out him saying it. Hate to keep saying it but from the reports of the game we were garbage ! Did any one expect the players from Wednesday to start Saturday ?

It just seems now that people are looking to jump on any little thing Hodgson says and rip into him which is not right to be honest

[redabbey]

It just seems now that people are looking to jump on any little thing Hodgson says and rip into him which is not right to be honest

I don't know if the last remark is aimed at me but I can assure you that questioning what he says in a press conference is not me ripping into him.

[Derekc]

In fairness it's not like we have a massive squad of superstars to choose from. I think it's irrelevant that he told the press no player starting Saturday will have started Wednesday , ye could figure it out yourself with out him saying it. Hate to keep saying it but from the reports of the game we were garbage ! Did any one expect the players from Wednesday to start Saturday ?

It just seems now that people are looking to jump on any little thing Hodgson says and rip into him which is not right to be honest

probably an element of truth to that to be honest but imo opinion saying none of them will start Saturday seems to be hanging them out to dry/telling opposition the team in advance. i don't see the point in it.

i watched the match and it was terrible but Roy didn't cover himself in glory either, it looked like Sammy lee took it upon himself to try sort it. the players who played on Wednesday looked so short of confidence and i'm not sure this is the type of thing that is going to raise it because we'll need them throughout the season.

i'm just guessing here but i honestly think Roy is probably shocked at the lack of confidence in the squad right now and probably thought he could turn things around abit quicker.

[Badman]

In fairness it's not like we have a massive squad of superstars to choose from. I think it's irrelevant that he told the press no player starting Saturday will have started Wednesday , ye could figure it out yourself with out him saying it. Hate to keep saying it but from the reports of the game we were garbage ! Did any one expect the players from Wednesday to start Saturday ?

It just seems now that people are looking to jump on any little thing Hodgson says and rip into him which is not right to be honest

Spot on! But you're gonna get a lot of that i'm afraid. He cant say anythin in the press and it's a 'disgrace' etc, he's just a yes man, fergies buddy etc etc. He cant win even before a game starts. this is essentially the same squad as rafa had last year with the notable exception of masch, riera nd insua. we played sh**e horrific football then and its no surprise we're doin it still, that wont be rectified in 2 or 3 months - not even jose could fix it taht quick. He's on a hiding to nothing our roy, cant see him here more thatn one season to be honest.
a blind dog with a mallet could have predicted he'd bring back all the big guns for this game agaisnt s'land yet people hop on that as more 'bad hodgson management' or poor people skills or bulls**t like that. as if his job isnt hard enough

[sallycinnamon]

I don't know if the last remark is aimed at me but I can assure you that questioning what he says in a press conference is not me ripping into him.

No that wasn't aimed at any one in particular just a general observation

[sallycinnamon]

Lads there's alot of doom and gloom surrounding the club and every single thread reflects that because even the nextmatch/lastmatch threads decend into negativity before a ball has been kicked.

This is the Sunderland thread the game is tomorrow so lets forget what Hodgson said about Wednesdays game and forget how poor they were and lets look at the positives ! Stevi G will be playing along with Carra, Pepe , Nando and Joe Cole. If we perform (I know its a big if ) we will f@cking hammer Sunderland. COME ON THE REDS ! ! !

[Rover 609]

Supposed team

Pepe
Johnson Skrtel Carra Konch
Dirk Poulsen Meireles Cole
Gerrard
Torres

[glen]

Supposed team

Pepe
Johnson Skrtel Carra Konch
Dirk Poulsen Meireles Cole
Gerrard
Torres

im happy with that team to go into the match

[GaryMc]

Supposed team

Pepe
Johnson Skrtel Carra Konch
Dirk Poulsen Meireles Cole
Gerrard
Torres

That is probably the strongest team he can possibly put out this season. Lets hope they have a right go and take some of the pressure of Roy.

A good win and some media coverage of the protests is the ideal scenario tomorrow.

[dk.lfc]

If that is the team id be happy with it

Good to see Dirk back

[Derekc]

happy with the team, personally i'd prefer agger and lucas in there but still very good team. hoping for 2 nil

[CrazyDaize]

happy with the team, personally i'd prefer agger and lucas in there but still very good team. hoping for 2 nil

+1 for Agger and Lucas

[djdwainec]

happy with the team, personally i'd prefer agger and lucas in there but still very good team. hoping for 2 nil

agree on lucas and agger

[diggy]

Team I've seen another forum from a reliable team-knowing-person is:

Reina Johnson Carra Skrtel Aurelio Maxi Poulson Meirles Cole
Gerard Ngog

Massive blow if Torres is out, been suggested he is been suspended for cheating ;-)

I wouldn't rule that team in or out, Aurelio weeks is he not?

[Derekc]

Team I've seen another forum from a reliable team-knowing-person is:

Reina Johnson Carra Skrtel Aurelio Maxi Poulson Meirles Cole
Gerard Ngog

Massive blow if Torres is out, been suggested he is been suspended for cheating ;-)

I wouldn't rule that team in or out, Aurelio weeks is he not?

roy said no one from wednesday will be playing so that must rule out ngog and i did think aurellio was out

[this]

Tomorrow will be our first Saturday game in 33 matches, insanity, nearly a full season worth of games without a Saturday match. Found that really hard to believe, but its true. 30th January was the last one.

[Beanokelly]

Tomorrow will be our first Saturday game in 33 matches, insanity, nearly a full season worth of games without a Saturday match. Found that really hard to believe, but its true. 30th January was the last one.

Can't be as we played the bluenose's the following weekend on a saturday but you would be wright if it was the last 3 o'clock kick-off

[this]

Tomorrow will be our first Saturday game in 33 matches, insanity, nearly a full season worth of games without a Saturday match. Found that really hard to believe, but its true. 30th January was the last one.

Idiot. Typical, try and be a smarta**e and get it wrong, our last Saturday game was the derby when the big Greek got sent of back in Feb.

[Carroll9]

Tomorrow will be our first Saturday game in 33 matches, insanity, nearly a full season worth of games without a Saturday match. Found that really hard to believe, but its true. 30th January was the last one.

Never realized that.It's the rewards for being in the Europa League.Looks like our next Saturday 3pm ko is Newcastle away on December 11th.

[this]

Can't be as we played the bluenose's the following weekend on a saturday but you would be wright if it was the last 3 o'clock kick-off

Damn it, you corrected me before I corrected myself. :D

Still a weird bloody stat.

[Beanokelly]

Idiot. Typical, try and be a smarta**e and get it wrong, our last Saturday game was the derby when the big Greek got sent of back in Feb.

True:p

[Beanokelly]

Never realized that.It's the rewards for being in the Europa League.Looks like our next Saturday 3pm ko is Newcastle away on December 11th.

Decembers fixtures aren't set yet

[Carroll9]

[QUOTE=Beanokelly;388871]Decembers fixtures aren't set yet[/QUOTE

Forgot about that.That game will probably be switched to the Monday night so.:)

[mascherIANO]

whats the situation regards protest tomorrow? whats planned?

[Carroll9]

whats the situation regards protest tomorrow? whats planned?

http://www.spiritofshankly.com/news/Direct-Action-_-Saturday.html

[ROCCO]

paul_tomkins

#LFC tomorrow: Reina, Johnson, Skrtel, Carragher, Konchesky, Meireles, Poulsen, Kuyt, Gerrard, Cole, Torres

[Beanokelly]

#LFC tomorrow: Reina, Johnson, Skrtel, Carragher, Konchesky, Meireles, Poulsen, Kuyt, Gerrard, Cole, Torres

That's the team Rover had up earlier

[ROCCO]

That's the team Rover had up earlier

Like the look of it ;)

[edcarroll02]

Like the look of it ;)

As said earlier I'd probably play Lucas ahead of poulsen!

[Beanokelly]

I'd rather a 442 with

Reina

Magic,Carra,Skrtel,Konchesky

Dirk,Stevie,Meireles,Cole

Ngog,Torres

We looked alot better with this formation last sunday

[this]

I'd rather a 442 with

Reina

Magic,Carra,Skrtel,Konchesky

Dirk,Stevie,Meireles,Cole

Ngog,Torres

We looked alot better with this formation last sunday

7 goals in 8 games this season, and won't get a start tomorrow, I'd be wondering what the hell else I have to do to get a start if I was in his shoes.

[graham]

I think tomorrows game is huge for us.
We're on the back of some poor results and I think if we can put in a great effort tomorrow and get a result we may be ok.
But I think if we don't get a result tomorrow then we're in for a long hard season.
It's how we react to the bad run that's important and I just think if we can't fix our problems tomorrow it may be too far gone

[travis]

We've always found it hard against Fat Head's teams, We'll probably sneak it 2-1 but I bet we won't control the game from start to finish.

[CrazyHorse]

I'll be delighted with the team if whats being reported is true...

Reina
Johnson - Carra - Skrtel - Konchesky

Kuyt - Merielles - Poulson - Cole

-- Gerrard
Torres --

I think thats our strongest team at the minute tbh.

I'm looking for a reaction tomorrow, and I think we'll get one.
2-0 to the reds.

[glen]

I'll be delighted with the team if whats being reported is true...

Reina
Johnson - Carra - Skrtel - Konchesky

Kuyt - Merielles - Poulson - Cole

-- Gerrard
Torres --

I think thats our strongest team at the minute tbh.

I'm looking for a reaction tomorrow, and I think we'll get one.
2-0 to the reds.
i agree this is a team to beat anyone in the league torres to score 2 today im confident 3-0 id say if we get an early goal

[killian]

lets have a huge reaction and a 3-0 and really get the season up and running, lets turn that corner we always talk about, turn it today...

[BretHart]

Agger has to play today.
I actually think Agger and Skrtel is our best partnership and Carra should be used less often, he's not been playing good for a very long time.

[sallycinnamon]

Any links for the game today ?

[Derekc]

Any links for the game today ?

i usually watch games on iraq goals but site seems to be done, anyone know if this site is gone for good?

should picck it up here somewhere though

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=87091&part=sports

[Fowler's God]

Hearing that SuperDirk will be starting today. Expected LFC today vs. The Mackems:


Reina, Johnson, Skrtel, Carragher, Konchesky, Meireles, Poulsen, Kuyt, Gerrard, Cole, Torres

[stevieg]

Hearing that SuperDirk will be starting today. Expected LFC today vs. The Mackems:


Reina, Johnson, Skrtel, Carragher, Konchesky, Meireles, Poulsen, Kuyt, Gerrard, Cole, Torres

We should be beating Sunderland with that team today.

Don't want to see Torres isolated up there today and would like to see our players press the opposition when they have the ball - have hardly seen it all season.

Want to see more work and energy from Poulsen as he has been disappointing so far.

Be good to see Kuyt get among the goalscorers today.

Will go with 2-0 or 2-1.

Come on Redmen

[djdwainec]

The Liverpool XI in full is: Reina, Johnson, Konchesky, Carragher, Skrtel, Gerrard, Poulsen, Meireles, Cole, Kuyt, Torres. Subs: Jones, Kyrgiakos, Lucas, Ngog, Agger, Jovanovic, Maxi.

[glen]

im very happy with that starting line up today lets hope for a good win

[aquaman]

lets hope we get the ball and run towards there goal now today mr poulsen and the rest of our midfield.no more robotic passing across the pitch

[Carroll9]

Great to see Kuyt back.Some people don't realize how important he is to the team.I think a performance is as important as the result today.Hopefully there will be a good reaction after the midweek debacle.Fancy us to win 2-0.
Titus Bramble is playing.

[wonit5times]

liverpool H/T liverpool F/T 11/10 with PP methinks.....;)

[MrsPepe]

http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/

http://rojadirecta.org/

http://www.atdhe.net/

http://lfcglobe.com/

http://www.justin.tv/cosoccer#/w/416443440

[mascherIANO]

http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/

http://rojadirecta.org/

http://www.atdhe.net/

http://lfcglobe.com/

http://www.justin.tv/cosoccer#/w/416443440

fantastic thank you

[Sea Bass]

That should have counted, **** sake!

[Derekc]

that was harsh, he looked level

[DanielSwagger89]

Haha sound!

[Beanokelly]

Goal Kuyt

[Carroll9]

Get in.Kuyt.Great start.

[Maverick]

Ha we will take anything :)

[Derekc]

after what happened with the beach ball sunderland can kiss my ass

[MrsPepe]

Karma is a mother ***** isnt it sunderland!!

[Beanokelly]

Anyone got a link thats works Majella's aren't working here

[glen]

torres goal should of been allowed kyuts shouldnt of been so fcuk it we started well

[Derekc]

Anyone got a link thats works Majella's aren't working here

http://www.veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4c909cdc2598b

[MrsPepe]

http://entertainmenow.net/channel1.php im on this one beano

[graham]

Here's a good link.
I think you have to be an Eircom customer
http://soccerrepublic.eircom.net/Setanta/

[Span Molby]

Here's a good link.
I think you have to be an Eircom customer
http://soccerrepublic.eircom.net/Setanta/

Sweet, great link that

[stevieg]

sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/80517

Working well for me

[glen]

well done reina gearrad you tool

[Sea Bass]

That referee should be ashamed of himself.

[stamullenredmen]

http://www.ilemi.com/

two streams on that page both in spanish

[glen]

some good forward passing today we are looking good but we need a second goal

[graham]

hahahaha Skrtel
Brilliant

[glen]

peno sunderland fcuk sake

[denashpot]

Defo a penalty. Unlucky Reina.

[Span Molby]

1-1 Bent

[reddave]

reina unlucky there

[stevieg]

Good attempt by Reina, Poulsen :mad: -

[Carroll9]

Fcuk sake.

[denashpot]

Konchesky off injured. Feck sake.

[Span Molby]

Looks to be a bad enough injury, although he's walking off

[Derekc]

don't know what poulsen was at with his hand that high

[Derekc]

Looks to be a bad enough injury, although he's walking off

sure does

game has gone very flat

[stevieg]

Konchesky giving Aurelio a run for his money with injuries

[glen]

sunderland playing well now

[Aido82]

Here's a good link.
I think you have to be an Eircom customer
http://soccerrepublic.eircom.net/Setanta/

fantastic link

[denashpot]

Any good links anyone?

[Derekc]

getting very frustrating, sunderland 70% possession last few mins. it's pretty obvious teams don't fear us because everything game this season teams have had a go at us

[glen]

starting to lose our way a bit

[reddave]

gone a bit dead alright

[stevieg]

I can't stand wathcing these streams, but what lineup do people see us playing?

It looks to me like Gerrard & Poulsen in CM, Cole on left, Meireles on right and Kuyt off Torres.

[Molby Is a Legend]

Any good links anyone?

http://www.iilemi.com/8967/2/Watch-Liverpool-FC-vs-Sunderland/

Im on this one mate and its great quality

[General]

Being outplayed yet again - another horrible defensive performance!! Torres completely isolated, our tactics are so fcuking defensive, it's sickening!!

[graham]

We're in too much of a hurry to get the ball forward.
We're losing patience and giving the ball back very fast

[glen]

that was sh1t stevie

[Derekc]

I can't stand wathcing these streams, but what lineup do people see us playing?

It looks to me like Gerrard & Poulsen in CM, Cole on left, Meireles on right and Kuyt off Torres.

yea looks that way. Midfield been very poor

[denashpot]

http://www.iilemi.com/8967/2/Watch-Liverpool-FC-vs-Sunderland/

Im on this one mate and its great quality

Thanks very much. ;)

[Carroll9]

http://www.iilemi.com/8967/2/Watch-Liverpool-FC-vs-Sunderland/

Im on this one mate and its great quality

Nice one mate.Thanks.

[glen]

its getting bad again after a good start

[Span Molby]

Meirles having some nice touches but why the hell is he playing from the right. Kuyt looks fairly rusty IMO

[Derekc]

its getting bad again after a good start

it's pants mate

[stevieg]

54% possession Sunderland, just came up there

[kdevitt]

We're fairly shocking at the moment. Can't believe the amount of balls being played straight to Sunderland.

And Torres looks in trouble too.

[Derekc]

We're fairly shocking at the moment. Can't believe the amount of balls being played straight to Sunderland.

And Torres looks in trouble too.

everyone presses us but we don't press them. we play school boy kick and rush stuff

[stevieg]

Disappointing to see such a good crowd at the game today.

[Carroll9]

This is depressing stuff.

[Fowler's God]

The cuckoo's are coming home to roost for the anti-rafa brigade. We are rubbish worse than last season. We wiped Sunderland all over Anfield last season and look at today. Pretty much the same squad, Hodgson is out of depth end of story. Even a win today won't make up for the displays we have being treated to so far.

West Brom came to Anfield and Sunderland are doing pretty much the same making us like a pub team at times.

The club is reaping what it sowed in the summer.

[glen]

thank god for that we needed half time in the end where gone sh1t again

[Derekc]

yet again we are getting overrun in midefield

[graham]

We'll have to find a different route, passing the ball to each other isn't working

[kdevitt]

everyone presses us but we don't press them. we play school boy kick and rush stuff

Yeah I know, we just sit off.

Even when we have time on the ball its been played straight to them. Its infuriating to watch.

[GaryMc]

Really thought would push on after goal. Get Ngog on with Torres after 60. Gerrard too deep. Would be worried bout Bent against Carra. Poulsen???

[bono]

We're fairly shocking at the moment. Can't believe the amount of balls being played straight to Sunderland.

And Torres looks in trouble too.

Whats up with Torres?

[stevieg]

A few boos there at halftime.

Right Roy needs to go for the jugular now.

Go 4-4-2 and Ngog & Torres up top with Gerrard,Meireles,Poulsen & Cole in midfield.

[aquaman]

dyer again.it is going to be a long season.i wonder if hodgson will be very happy with this draw

[Molby Is a Legend]

45% - 55% possession in sunderlands favour?
Really thought we would see a reaction from the team today but nothing yet

Really poor

[Jockser]

flat

[Span Molby]

Very poor again, not capitalising on a great start

[kdevitt]

Whats up with Torres?

Looked to be holding his hammy or calf at one stage and signaling to the bench. Looked ok walking off though.

[Derekc]

if anyone knows what type or style of football we are actually meant to be playing i'd love to know.

we've been better second half most games so we should imrpove but the football this season is a disgrace, we couldn't have got off to a better start in the last two games

[macca]

The cuckoo's are coming home to roost for the anti-rafa brigade.

Its usually chickens that do that

[aquaman]

The cuckoo's are coming home to roost for the anti-rafa brigade. We are rubbish worse than last season. We wiped Sunderland all over Anfield last season and look at today. Pretty much the same squad, Hodgson is out of depth end of story. Even a win today won't make up for the displays we have being treated to so far.

West Brom came to Anfield and Sunderland are doing pretty much the same making us like a pub team at times.

The club is reaping what it sowed in the summer.

spot on chap

[Derekc]

Yeah I know, we just sit off.

Even when we have time on the ball its been played straight to them. Its infuriating to watch.

you do get so tense watching it don't you and shouting at pc/tv doesn't seem to work :D

[miked]

Any more reliable links lads? tried all ones mentioned so far and only about 5-6 seconds and its starts freezing.

[Molby Is a Legend]

Any more reliable links lads? tried all ones mentioned so far and only about 5-6 seconds and its starts freezing.

Already posted this one http://www.iilemi.com/8967/2/Watch-Liverpool-FC-vs-Sunderland/

Hasnt frooze once on me

[Fowler's God]

Its usually chickens that do that

:p either way they be chickens, roosters or any animal lol today is shabby.

[Irishlad]

The cuckoo's are coming home to roost for the anti-rafa brigade. We are rubbish worse than last season. We wiped Sunderland all over Anfield last season and look at today. Pretty much the same squad, Hodgson is out of depth end of story. Even a win today won't make up for the displays we have being treated to so far.

West Brom came to Anfield and Sunderland are doing pretty much the same making us like a pub team at times.

The club is reaping what it sowed in the summer.


Not really cause Rafa was shit and made a pigs ear of the team. This lack of width you see can be contributed directly on him.

Weather or not Hodgson is the right man remains to seen. However it wont be seen during his sixth league game.

[Derekc]

Really thought would push on after goal. Get Ngog on with Torres after 60. Gerrard too deep. Would be worried bout Bent against Carra. Poulsen???

i'd have lucas ahead of him every day. i'd even consider shelvey and spearing ahead of him. i have never rated poulsen

[miked]

Already posted this one http://www.iilemi.com/8967/2/Watch-Liverpool-FC-vs-Sunderland/

Hasnt frooze once on me

Thats the one Im on at the minute and its hopeless, have full reception/coverage etc. here so dont know what the issue is?

[macca]

:p either way they be chickens, roosters or any animal lol today is shabby.

donkeys on that 45:(

[kdevitt]

Its hard to understand - we looked ok up until we scored. They're playing like a bunch of strangers - Poulsen and Johnson both got dragged onto one player at one stage leaving a man totally free at RB - the contasion is spreading to Reina.

Second half kicking off - lets hope it picks up!

[kdevitt]

Lucky to escape - that was a cast iron penalty

[Derekc]

that could have easily been a pen

[kdevitt]

****ing hell :(

1:2 - Bent - dreadful defending

[glen]

fcuk me

[midg23]

Darren Bent Goal 2-1

[Tilly]

What the fck is going on?

[Derekc]

wtf

[Span Molby]

Shocking

[Irishlad]

18m ???

Thank **** he wasn't allowed to waste any more money

[glen]

this is a fcuking must win ffs

[this]

F**king disgraceful, no other word for this performance, 4-4-2, now, N'gog on, don't wait until the 85th minute Roy.

[Carroll9]

I'm not even surprised anymore.Seems like s land deserved it.

[Fowler's God]

Not really cause Rafa was shit and made a pigs ear of the team. This lack of width you see can be contributed directly on him.

Weather or not Hodgson is the right man remains to seen. However it wont be seen during his sixth league game.



Pigs ear of the team that almost won the league title two years ago great insight. The system that Rafa employed encouraged the RB and LB to push forward, same principles he employed at Valencia. Problem was we didn't have the same ability to get the players of the likes he had in those positions and who were intelligent enough to do so.

Well we're two-one down at home to Sunderland, I pretty much think he isn't the right man being honest.

[midg23]

Looks like Bramble just raped Torres hahaha

[Derekc]

18m ???

Thank **** he wasn't allowed to waste any more money

seriously kop the f8ck on. everytime you try blame rafa for sh8t. this is roys team and stop making excuses for this rubbish

[stevieg]

Irishlad - stop bringing up Rafa, everyone on the site is sick of you bringing him up in other threads that have nothing to do with him.

Once again we let the oppostion get crosses in on us.

[Fowler's God]

18m ???

Thank **** he wasn't allowed to waste any more money

18 million for who exactly? We paid 10 for Johnson, 12-14 for Aquilani up till now which will be recouped next summer for an agreed price of 13 million

[Fowler's God]

seriously kop the f8ck on. everytime you try blame rafa for sh8t. this is roys team and stop making excuses for this rubbish

Exactly, performances have being awful.

[aquaman]

18m ???

Thank **** he wasn't allowed to waste any more money


plug

[Irishlad]

18 million for who exactly? We paid 10 for Johnson, 12-14 for Aquilani up till now which will be recouped next summer for an agreed price of 13 million

10m for Johnson. Catch yourself on.

Was Crouch sold for 3m then????

Absolute shocking right back. Can't defend to save his ****ing life and needs dropping badly.

[kdevitt]

Needs to make a change now - Sunderland look completely comfortable.

In other news - WBA beating Arsenal 2-0!

[stevieg]

plug

You should see the abuse he gets on TheLiverpoolWay

[MrsPepe]

18m ???

Thank **** he wasn't allowed to waste any more money


seriously like, change the bloody record will ya

[aquaman]

You should see the abuse he gets on TheLiverpoolWay

ya well when u keep talking shit its bound to happen

[Juan]

Change it roy for fcuks sake..we are being thought a lesson at home.
Embarressing.

[rev]

Irishlad -

This is a match thread - Past manager thread ----->

No more Rafa talk please!

[rccaulfield]

Whats the protest about after the match-just heard on skysportsnews-awful scoreline here!

[this]

One thing I really have a problem understanding is our lack of ability to pass a simple ball to your own team-mate, I don't care what the tactics, formation etc., just can't seem to work out why professional footballers passing is so bad.

Sunderland will get a 3 before we equalize, no heart, no pressure, disgraceful performance.

[Fowler's God]

10m for Johnson. Catch yourself on.

Was Crouch sold for 3m then????

Absolute shocking right back. Can't defend to save his ****ing life and needs dropping badly.

Portsmouth owed us 7 million for Crouch, that fee was wrote off. He can't defend I know that which is why Rafa and Roy why did they or have not moved him up to the right wing where his strengths can be used to benefit the team.

Rafa made the mistake and Roy is doing the same.

[aquaman]

this is dyer stuff

[glen]

any chance of a sub we will be lucky to get away with a draw

[Derekc]

why the hell has he not changed anything?

[Fowler's God]

Has he put on Lucas yet because honestly he is one of the few players who actually looks arsed in playing for the shirt.

[rev]

Whats the protest about after the match-just heard on skysportsnews-awful scoreline here!



Protest against our ownership saga

[kdevitt]

Ngog on for Poulsen - fingers crossed this works out

[rev]

Ngog on for Poulsen - fingers crossed this works out

At least a positive change

[Irishlad]

Portsmouth owed us 7 million for Crouch, that fee was wrote off. He can't defend I know that which is why Rafa and Roy why did they or have not moved him up to the right wing where his strengths can be used to benefit the team.

Rafa made the mistake and Roy is doing the same.

You can't right off 8m just because it was owed. What your saying means crouch was sold for 3m then.

Needs to be moved out of the team, nevermind the RB position. Fcuking waster is all style and no substance

[sallycinnamon]

I've only seen the last 10 mins of the game and by god are we poor. Cant keep the ball it's shocking

[Carroll9]

Whats the protest about after the match-just heard on skysportsnews-awful scoreline here!

Seriously.:eek:

[glen]

thats rubbish by cole

[midg23]

bout time poulsen was taken off, out of all the matches he's played i dont think imo he's had good game yet!

[Derekc]

another goal that came down the left side by the way to go with last week. i know he was poor at times last year but i really think insua was made a scapegoat because we certainly haven't improved since he left

[reddave]

One thing I really have a problem understanding is our lack of ability to pass a simple ball to your own team-mate, I don't care what the tactics, formation etc., just can't seem to work out why professional footballers passing is so bad.

Sunderland will get a 3 before we equalize, no heart, no pressure, disgraceful performance.

no heart..thats the thing that disappionts me most about this season so far. still time left though.ngog might spark a bit of life in the game

[kdevitt]

Get in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[glen]

get in stevie

[rccaulfield]

cmon lads! 2-2

[Carroll9]

Get in.Gerrard.

[this]

C'mon for f**ks sake, lets take this.

2-2 Gerrard

[rev]

Beauty

[midg23]

goal GERRARD!!!!!

[sallycinnamon]

yes get in there beauty ! ! !

[Span Molby]

Yesssssssssssss

[aquaman]

gerrard get in.the man has had us on he shoulders for the last decade

[Derekc]

quality by nando and stevie

[Fowler's God]

Papering over the cracks lads being honest.

[midg23]

Carras eye busted open running down both sides of his eye. He Headbutted Skrtel again!!!!

On Another Note, thats 2 weeks in a row that Ngog has come off the bench and changed the game within a few minutes!
Well Done David, Well Done!

[Irishlad]

Keep this on topic - last warning!!

You sound like a broken record


Ok then on topic

Hodgson is shit, i miss rafa

That toe the line well enough for you?

[stevieg]

Fathead moaning, ugly cnut

[reddave]

carra been stichted ..cant see him staying off for a cut

[rev]

Ok then on topic

Hodgson is shit, i miss rafa

That toe the line well enough for you?

Next Match/Last Match Discuss our recent games in detail

Not rafa's signings!

[Derekc]

Ok then on topic

Hodgson is shit, i miss rafa

That toe the line well enough for you?

have you actually commented once on the game today?

[kdevitt]

Papering over the cracks lads being honest.

Totally...but... success breeds confidence, and as much as I have issues with Hodgson and the way he sets up our team, a lot of the issues today are down to players being at rock bottom - you can't legislate for players not being able to pass to each other.

[Irishlad]

have you actually commented once on the game today?


Johnson being a bloody liability is directly involved with this match

[Derekc]

Johnson being a bloody liability is directly involved with this match

you slated the ex manager with that. i have nothing else to say to you coz your just on here to try wind people up

[glen]

still not good enough lads its a must win

[Derekc]

still not good enough lads its a must win

indeed and after watching this blackpool weill fancy they're chances next week too

[stevieg]

I think Gerrard went for him there, will take a yellow for it though.

[graham]

Stevie lucky to stay on

[Derekc]

i think the ref has been very generous to us today

[kdevitt]

Ngog very wasteful with a pass there - should have been 3.

Speaking of which - Arsenal 0- WBA 3 !

[miked]

`Just showed that Sunderland have had more goal attempts than we have, went to this fixture last year and we took them apart they didnt even get into the game, whats going on in the players heads!!

[sallycinnamon]

Well on top the last few mins, lets hope we make it count