Liverpool v FC Robotnicki

[mushypea]

Who's your starting 11 for tomorrows game?

Would love to see Pacheco start. Surely he's prob the most match fit of the lot after playing competitively with Spains U19's recently.

Anyone know if he's back at melwood?

[Irishlad]

I'd probably go with a strong team, due to them not getting much game time before the arsenal game.

Something like this

------------------Reina

Johnson-----Skrtel-----Wilson----Agger

------------------Lucas

---Pacheco------------Gerrard------Cole

------------Ngog-----------Kuyt

[Liverpool-law]

With the season starting sunday week I would play about 7 first teamers, otherwise they'll have practically no match time prior to the season start. As a club we took a big hit with the world cup, need to re-focus the players for a very big start to the season with the gunners, man city and the scum in the first 6 matches.

[bobby benitez]

I am sure Redabbey will clarify;) but are'nt the 4 world cup lads (Reina,Torres,Kuyt and Babel) illegable for this match? Maybe even the english lads too.

[Irishlad]

I am sure Redabbey will clarify;) but are'nt the 4 world cup lads (Reina,Torres,Kuyt and Babel) illegable for this match? Maybe even the english lads too.

Roy said something today about Torres not playing due to still recovering from his injury. That would make me think that the rest can play.

[K1lladeer]

Yeah Pachecho is back alright. Saw him in one of the pics on the website there today.

[Liverpool-law]

I am sure Redabbey will clarify;) but are'nt the 4 world cup lads (Reina,Torres,Kuyt and Babel) illegable for this match? Maybe even the english lads too.

Forgot about that, did the same squad have to be submitted for the two ties at the outset? So none of the big boys will get a run out. The squad for the first game was; Liverpool squad: Cavalieri, Aquilani, Agger, Jovanovic, Kyrgiakos, Lucas, Wilson, Ngog, Spearing, Darby, Shelvey, Kelly, Skrtel, Eccleston, Ayala, Hansen, Gulacsi, Amoo, Dalla Valle, Ince..

Still should be enough to beat them but I was thinking of the game more for fitness. I'm sure Joe Cole said something about his first competitive match being on thursday though...

[Carroll9]

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/cole-to-make-anfield-bow

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Aggers out.Jova,Stevie,Carra,Cole and Glen will all start.

Would expect something like Pepe,Johnson,Carra,Skrtel,Aurelio,Kuyt(?)Gerrard,L ucas,Jovanovic,Cole,N'Gog.

Anyone heard anything about Maxi?

[Fantana]

None of the world cup finalists will play. The sports science team will maintain the same stance that they had for all other players at WC in that they will at very least need a weeks training before a game. All only been back since Monday apart from "R to the Bizzy Babel" who was back last friday, so he may sneak an appearance

[redabbey]

None of the world cup finalists will play. The sports science team will maintain the same stance that they had for all other players at WC in that they will at very least need a weeks training before a game. All only been back since Monday apart from "R to the Bizzy Babel" who was back last friday, so he may sneak an appearance

Only these players submitted to UEFA before the 1st leg can play. So definitely no Babbel.

[ROCCO]

"Agger is injured so won't take part and the other World Cup players who are have only just returned to training won't play."



What happened with Agger ?

[dk.lfc]

Think we will stick about 4 past these tonight, should be a decent team we put out id imagein

[glen]

what time is the draw tomorrow for the play off round could we get celtic

EDIT:06/08/10
12.00CET Nyon UEFA Champions League Play-offs
13.30CET Nyon UEFA Europa League Play-offs

[Carroll9]

what time is the draw tomorrow for the play off round could we get celtic

EDIT:06/08/10
12.00CET Nyon UEFA Champions League Play-offs
13.30CET Nyon UEFA Europa League Play-offs

Celtic are seeded so we should avoid them presuming we get through of course.Could get TNS or Dundee United.

[glen]

tns would be handy enough wouldnt have to travel to far

[jordo333]

The playoffs are 19th & 26th Aug. Does this mean the west brom game will almost certainly be pushed out to the sunday? Any chance of it being a Monday?

[Carroll9]

The playoffs are 19th & 26th Aug. Does this mean the west brom game will almost certainly be pushed out to the sunday? Any chance of it being a Monday?

Would think it would very likely be a Monday game.Doesn't look like Sky have a game down for that night yet.

[Carroll9]

Will be interesting to see if the jerseys have Standard Chartered in Chinese on them tonight.:D

[ROCCO]

Been our last game before we play Arsenal this imo is a huge game of intent for season to come ..

5-0

[barrydoherty]

Liverpool (from): Cavalieri, Johnson, Carragher, Skrtel, Agger, Aurelio, Aquilani, Gerrard, Jovanovic, Lucas, Cole, Ngog, Spearing, Kelly, Eccleston, Pacheco, Darby, Insua, Rodriguez, Gulacsi, Shelvey.

I'm thinking 5-0, 6-0 here :)

[travis]

Rabotnicki players buy some boots in the JJB L1 today
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg266/scaled.php?tn=0&server=266&filename=gc6f.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

[KOPSTAR]

Good pic travis , give all the young lads a run roy

[redabbey]

Would think it would very likely be a Monday game.Doesn't look like Sky have a game down for that night yet.

You are forgetting that the following weekend is an international weekend and the players will be released to their national squads in advance of these fixtures. That is the reason that there are no TV games scheduled for that Monday.

[prendy]

You are forgetting that the following weekend is an international weekend and the players will be released to their national squads in advance of these fixtures. That is the reason that there are no TV games scheduled for that Monday.

I'm pretty sure there is Monday games before Internationals, I recall Given linking up with the squad a day later for an Ireland match last year.


I reckon the opposition will be over awed tonight and we'll win 5 or 6 nil.

Hoping for an appearance from Cole and want to get a good look at Jovanovic.

[ROCCO]

Maybe the starting 11 for tonight.

Cava
Johnson
Carra
Skrtel
Kelly
Pacheco
Gerrard
Lucas
Jovanovic
Cole
Ngog

[ROCCO]

Anybody hear that ITV 4 will block the match in Ireland ?

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Anybody hear that ITV 4 will block the match in Ireland ?

Checked the listings earlier and they have it down as 'Not available in The Republic of Ireland'.And there was me thinking I could avoid that twat on Setanta.

[reddy]

The strongest side available should be played . I hope Roy stays well away from
" resting " players as the season progresses . Strongest team EVERY game ,make
a statement . Forever Red. reddy.

[Irishlad]

The strongest side available should be played . I hope Roy stays well away from
" resting " players as the season progresses . Strongest team EVERY game ,make
a statement . Forever Red. reddy.

No way. i can't agree with that at all.

I hope all the better players play no part in this or the league cup again. Tonight fair enough. It makes sense for fitness.

Mark my words we won't make top 4 if we go all out in the Europa league.

[reddy]

Anybody hear that ITV 4 will block the match in Ireland ?

Eh, Rocco, I got the LFC TV listings on me telly right now and its
got the game on live . Forever Red. reddy.

[reddy]

No way. i can't agree with that at all.

I hope all the better players play no part in this or the league cup again. Tonight fair enough. It makes sense for fitness.

Mark my words we won't make top 4 if we go all out in the Europa league.


I can honestly understand where yer coming from ,,but , ya remember
the amount of times Raffa rested players for whatever reason ?? got us
nowhere . I believe you play your strongest team regardless of the comp.
I believe we will make 4th place this season . Forever Red. reddy.

[redabbey]

I'm pretty sure there is Monday games before Internationals, I recall Given linking up with the squad a day later for an Ireland match last year.

That could well have been the case last year but remember for this season the internationals are on Fridays & Tuesdays.

Here is the Euro 2012 games list

http://en.uefa.com/uefaeuro2012/matches/index.html

I stand by my original comments if the home game against WBA has to be moved it will be on the Sunday.

[Niall]

Anybody hear that ITV 4 will block the match in Ireland ?

That's me fcuked if that's true. Just had a look on the official site and it's showing as being on the LFC channel.

19:45 The Match: Europa League Qualifier 2nd leg
All the action from Liverpool's Europa League third qualifying round second leg tie

[redabbey]

Anybody hear that ITV 4 will block the match in Ireland ?

Impossible on Sky. I don't know though about UPC.

[Irishlad]

I can honestly understand where yer coming from ,,but , ya remember
the amount of times Raffa rested players for whatever reason ?? got us
nowhere . I believe you play your strongest team regardless of the comp.
I believe we will make 4th place this season . Forever Red. reddy.

Rafa rested players in the league though. He always preferred Europe.

I honestly believe if he had of just went for the league last year, after we were knocked out of the CL, then we'd have finished top 4.

I really don't think we have the squad yet to be going for everything. Top 4 and a nice run in the FA cup would do nicely.

[Niall]

Impossible on Sky. I don't know though about UPC.

That's what i wanted to hear Lionel:D

[travis]

they can't block ITV4 it's not on the sky epg , you have to manually tune in ITV4, the same way when CH4 block programmes you can manually tune it in and watch CH4 programmes.

[reddy]

Rafa rested players in the league though. He always preferred Europe.

I honestly believe if he had of just went for the league last year, after we were knocked out of the CL, then we'd have finished top 4.

I really don't think we have the squad yet to be going for everything. Top 4 and a nice run in the FA cup would do nicely.


And take 6 points offa d scum :),,,,,do me that !!!. Forever Red.
reddy

[redabbey]

they can't block ITV4 it's not on the sky epg , you have to manually tune in ITV4, the same way when CH4 block programmes you can manually tune it in and watch CH4 programmes.

I posted this in another thread some time ago. Here are instructions for changing over a Sky Box to a FTA set up with the English EPG. ITV4 is 120.

http://www.irishkop.com/forums/showpost.php?p=349156&postcount=4

[MrsPepe]

Georgie Thompson just said we were in CL tonight:eek:

[sallycinnamon]

Lads any links for the game later ?

[Carroll9]

Lads any links for the game later ?

http://www.iraqgoals.net/10829-liverpool-fc-vs-fk-rabotnicki-.html

Its on ITV 4 and Setanta Ireland as well.

[reddy]

Lads ,,,re the game tonight . Its on LFC TV. Not being a
smart ass -but does anyone else get LFC TV here ???.
I got sky and the channel comes with the sports pack .
Forever Red. reddy.

[Irishlad]

Lads ,,,re the game tonight . Its on LFC TV. Not being a
smart ass -but does anyone else get LFC TV here ???.
I got sky and the channel comes with the sports pack .
Forever Red. reddy.

It comes with the entertainment pack as well.

[reddy]

It comes with the entertainment pack as well.


Did not know that,,,just that no one seems to be mentioning
same Irishlad. Looking forward to it . Forever Red. reddy.

[joe77]

didnt knoe it was on LFC.tv Its on ITV4 as well. Also on Setanta. Thought LFC were only showing it on E season ticket

[dk.lfc]

Georgie Thompson just said we were in CL tonight:eek:

il let her away with it if she apolagies to me face to face

[Irishlad]

LFC TV's countdown to kick off starts in five mins

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Cavalieri, Johnson, Kelly, Skrtel, Carragher, Cole, Lucas, Gerrard, Jovanovic, Pacheco, Ngog

[Irishlad]

Pacheco will do the business tonight.

[travis]

That's a nice team

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Subs: Gulacsi, Aquilani, Kyrgiakos, Maxi, Wilson, Spearing, Eccleston.

[edcarroll02]

The game is listed as being on setanta 1! Is that right?

Delighted to see pacheco starting, serious talent!

[Carroll9]

The game is listed as being on setanta 1! Is that right?

Delighted to see pacheco starting, serious talent!

It's on Setanta Ireland.

[redabbey]

Just seen the new seats outside the boxes in the Centenary. That is a good improvement to the ground.

[redabbey]

You can't beat ITV for cockup's they went directly into a commercial when Ray Houghton was speaking. It was ITV HD who missed Stevie G's world cup goal in the first England match.

[Irishlad]

The channel still isn't working right!!

*back on now

Wasn't it ITV that missed the Everton goal in the FA cup last year as well?

[byrnetred]

over 30k expected, bigger attendance than i thought

[travis]

ITV4 = takeover Kenny Huang , Syria , Kirdi
Setanta = Des Fookin Curran
LFC channel= no talk of takeover , totally biased commentary, although they might not actually be in Anfield while commentating

[sallycinnamon]

http://www.iraqgoals.net/10829-liverpool-fc-vs-fk-rabotnicki-.html

Its on ITV 4 and Setanta Ireland as well.

Cheers

[Irishlad]

Glen Johnson :o

[Ron1892]

Roy gave a good interview, and he is such a happy bloke, constantly smiling, and answering questions in a straight forward way...

[Beanokelly]

Come on Redmen ,Roy looks nervous

[diceyreilly]

Really looking forward to this one. . . Didn't think i'd be saying that in May. .

come on you redmen. .

[Ron1892]

Great Atmosphere there..God i miss it...I cant wait to get back...

[MrsPepe]

Great Atmosphere there..God i miss it...I cant wait to get back...

hahaha, snap!! Just going to say the same

[prendy]

just backed the 6-0 come on lads!

[Malzheimer]

http://www.tvlivoo.net/ch1.html

Only decent stream I can find for any other fellow exiles.

[barrydoherty]

My stream is so weird on IraqGoals this boy is switching channels from the Liverpool game to the Juventus game to check the score lol

[diceyreilly]

Come david lad get that shot away. .

[Ron1892]

Ngog should of burried that one..Excellent play for us though..Ngog looks sharp..

[bryanod]

over 30k expected, bigger attendance than i thought

Usually get a decent turnout in our first home friendly so not too surprising, esepcially with the team news out yesterday it would be a decent eleven.

Started so brightly and Ngog had to score that one. Hopefully we continure at this pace and football.

[Irishlad]

Keep your head up patches. the kid looks a little nervy.

No excuses for ngog not burying that chance

[diceyreilly]

Great ball in there from joe cole. . If we get 1 early on We'll get 5. . Mon the lads. Enjoying this

[Irishlad]

Why no ****ing pen??

[LFC Lad]

Good effort from Stevie

[Carroll9]

Great finish.

[Ron1892]

some ****ing header from Ngog..Joe cole with a sweet ball in..He is having a very very good game..

[Irishlad]

Lovely ball by Joe Cole

[diceyreilly]

That's some ball again from joe and great finish :)

[LFC Lad]

Joe is having a great game so far.

[prendy]

Joe is having a great game so far.

he looks like he's enjoying himself alright. all he needed was a big club!

[Irishlad]

I know it's only Rabotnicki but I'm loving this pass and move football. Pity these lads didn't have a full pre-season together. Going to be deadly when full team is back and it clicks.

[MrsPepe]

he looks like he's enjoying himself alright. all he needed was a big club!

nice:D

[diceyreilly]

he looks like he's enjoying himself alright. all he needed was a big club!

Correct :) :)

[Tarabuses]

When will Lucas learn that the idea is to pass the ball?

[LFC Lad]

2-0, good penalty from Stevie

[gav003]

http://www.tvlivoo.net/ch1.html

Only decent stream I can find for any other fellow exiles.

Saviour!

[prendy]

PAcheco doesnt have his usual energy, I'd say he's tired after the Euro's.

A goal in Anfield would do him the world of good.

[barrydoherty]

Not much celebrations lol!

Good Pen doubt was a Penalty think NGog was Offside and was soft Pen now, this could be 5 or 6 now

[Phil!]

Happy with that performane! Joe Cole has been very exciting so far looks bright! Ngog took his goal well too and that was good goalkeepin right at the end there!!

Hopefully knock a few more past them in the second half!

[Irishlad]

Cracking first half. Showed better football there then the whole of last season. Some lovely touches and passes.
Ngog really should have done better once or twice though. He wont get this many chances at the highest level.

[glen]

very good first half some good play jova and cole look good dani has had some good play ngog should have scored a couple more but great header and he won the peno to some he is doing ok to

[Phil!]

http://www.tvlivoo.net/ch1.html

Only decent stream I can find for any other fellow exiles.

Cheers for that! Had been struggling!

[glen]

one thing i noticed was the crowd seem a bit more lively to for the first half hour anyway you could here the kop sing

[this]

Will someone ever tell Cole not be chasing back & putting so much effort in, leave some of that energy for the Arsenal game lad :) Great application has to be said, Ngog should have a hatrick by now.

Another stream for anyone that can't get any of the usual's working.

http://www.justin.tv/xsoccerrr#/w/296318400/2

[honald_tdb]

Great to see Sammy Lee back on the bench too! Joe Cole is class....

[gav003]

Not much celebrations lol!

Good Pen doubt was a Penalty think NGog was Offside and was soft Pen now, this could be 5 or 6 now

Ngog was played on by at least a yard by the defender behind him

[glen]

its great to have a choice in commentary with the match on 3 stations

[Ron1892]

Joe cole is pulling the strings be time..Gerrard is having a great game, and is running the game..

Imagine what it will be like when El Nino is back...

[Tarabuses]

Joe cole is pulling the strings be time..Gerrard is having a great game, and is running the game..

Imagine what it will be like when El Nino is back...

Can't come soon enough.

[Carlsburger]

Pass and move, simples ........ and very injoyable to watch :-)

[Irishlad]

Unlucky Kelly. Looks like he would be pretty comfortable at full back as well

[glen]

cant wait to see a full team on the pitch but the signs tonight are looking good

[prendy]

tha should have been a pen I reckon, he was unlucky to be booked I thought

[bryanod]

Christ lads giving me heartache there I backed to win with a clean sheet, Hope Roy gives ya a hiding for turning off!

Would've liked to see a few more chances taking but can't complain really i guess.

[Phil!]

Was a good solid performance and things look encourging but can't get carried away. Theres a big difference between Robotnicki and the likes of Arsenal. Still think we need to bring in a couple of new faces but all in all a good result

[babbsnads]

Definitely feeling a lot more positive about the strenght of the squad after tonight. Kelly was the big plus for me tonight, the lad is definitely going to be a player. The defending at the end was fantastic to stop that guy scoring. I'd definitely like to see another striker come but it looks like we've good competition for places all over the pitch. Not saying we're the finished article by any means but I think how despondent I was a few weeks ago compared to now and I can't wait for the season to start.

[macca]

Well that was the first hour and a half in the last week I haven't been worrying about us. I don't know if thats a good thing

Think it was a pretty good peformance all in all. Stevie looked back on the boil (even without doing one pass that wasn't a backheel), jovanovic looked decent, kelly looked solid, JC looked sharp and dani had a good game without looking like the second coming (would have liked to see him given a chance up front as ngog doesn't look anything like a natural goalscorer)

The most encouraging thing for me was the quick pass and move style we played which after the last few years is a welcome relief. Hopefully we can play this way when going to blackpool, west ham, west brom etc.

[redabbey]

Was good to see another new signing (http://www.jack-wolfskin.com/en/desktopdefault.aspx) making a debut tonight at Anfield. Ian Ayre is doing a great job.

[Paddser]

Was good to see another new signing (http://www.jack-wolfskin.com/en/desktopdefault.aspx) making a debut tonight at Anfield. Ian Ayre is doing a great job.

Funny you should say that Lionel! Was watching a bit of the Emirates Cup on Sky at the weekend, and the Jack Wolfskin advertising came up there as well. My brother gives tours of Trinity, and he said he has never seen anybody other than Germans wearing Jack Wolfskin, and was surprised to see it advertised in England. He lived in Germany for a year as well, and said it's fairly big over there.

[redabbey]

Funny you should say that Lionel! Was watching a bit of the Emirates Cup on Sky at the weekend, and the Jack Wolfskin advertising came up there as well. My brother gives tours of Trinity, and he said he has never seen anybody other than Germans wearing Jack Wolfskin, and was surprised to see it advertised in England. He lived in Germany for a year as well, and said it's fairly big over there.

Personally I had never came across the brand until 2 years ago skiing in Switzerland and I was amazed how much of it was about. ITK's have already told me that 'Trucker' has replaced his 'North Face' with a 'Wolfskin' and as he is a big softie loves the friendly paw on his shoulder.

[mushypea]

Very happy with that performance. Only let down was the lack of goals but if your creating as much as that then the goals will come. Im sure Nando was delighted as much as i was to see Joe Cole put in a performance like that. I honestly think his link up play with a hopefully fit & sharp Torres this season will bring bags of goals.

Slick passing with great movement throughout the team. Stevie looking hungry for it was great to watch. IMO he is the only player who can replace Alonso.

We're looking good lads & Sunday week cant come quick enough. Thats something i didnt think i would be saying a month ago when i dreaded the thought of playing the Gooners. Roll on :)

[barnestormer]

didnt see the game by the sounds of things mr hodgson has brought some team spirit with him..

[GaryMc]

didnt see the game by the sounds of things mr hodgson has brought some team spirit with him..

Dont want to be the professor of Doom, but these were the equivilant of Rochdale. They nearly scored twice at the end too. Would not read anything into the results as I would read anything into the disappointing friendlies.

Some nice link play and plenty of chances created. Ngog played well, however We need Torres at the sharp end when the real action begins Sunday week.

[glen]

cant wait for sunday week now if we play like last night with some more players back and another weeks fitness under there belts

[rampant hair]

Good performance, Kelly will be a great player I think. Bit disappointed in Pacheco, thought he tried too hard.

I think last night emhasised the point, we need a striker. We have so many creative/link players; Gerrard, Aquilani, Maxi, Pacheco, Cole, Jova, Kuyt, Babel.

We are completely reliant on Torres for finishing, leading the line. Ngog is improving but really is nowhere near good enough at the moment.

So we are relying on a player who has played just over half of our league games in the last two seasons. I hope Roy has someone lined up to come in before next week. Otherwise I fear we'll struggle to make 4th, and we'll have the same transfer drama surrounding our players this time next year.

[Gray72]

I thought there were a load of positives from last night. We fizzed the ball around quickly and opened them up on numerous occasions. I thought the back four were assured and both full backs got forward well. Johnson if fit will give us a different dimension going forward and Kelly down the left was just as good.

In the middle Gerrard was driving us forward from deep and knocking both long and short passes around. In front of him we looked so good in advanced positions.
Joe Cole was brilliant and in time will get us goals. Jovanovic showed great pace, vision and endeavour and looked a real threat.

I thought Pacheco was disappointing but showed some real nice touches. He will prove to be a great squad member this season and will get goals. Now Ngog does concern me! He just doesn't have the quality at this level and had we Torres up front last night he'd have scored 6. There has been an improvement in his hold up play but he still lacks composure in goal scoring position and just just can't afford to pass up these sort of chances in this standard of football.

I'm not slating Ngog because he was showing well and running the channels and went all night but is he ever going to have than killer instinct. He's got 3 goals to date so we'll see and hopefully that'll give him some confidence. He might be like Heskey and need that arm around him to perform. rafa was never that sort of manager but Roy appears to be so he may flourish under him?

All in all it's looking good. We look more attacking that last season anyway.

[stevieg]

I thought there were a load of positives from last night. We fizzed the ball around quickly and opened them up on numerous occasions. I thought the back four were assured and both full backs got forward well. Johnson if fit will give us a different dimension going forward and Kelly down the left was just as good.

In the middle Gerrard was driving us forward from deep and knocking both long and short passes around. In front of him we looked so good in advanced positions.
Joe Cole was brilliant and in time will get us goals. Jovanovic showed great pace, vision and endeavour and looked a real threat.

I thought Pacheco was disappointing but showed some real nice touches. He will prove to be a great squad member this season and will get goals. Now Ngog does concern me! He just doesn't have the quality at this level and had we Torres up front last night he'd have scored 6. There has been an improvement in his hold up play but he still lacks composure in goal scoring position and just just can't afford to pass up these sort of chances in this standard of football.

I'm not slating Ngog because he was showing well and running the channels and went all night but is he ever going to have than killer instinct. He's got 3 goals to date so we'll see and hopefully that'll give him some confidence. He might be like Heskey and need that arm around him to perform. rafa was never that sort of manager but Roy appears to be so he may flourish under him?

All in all it's looking good. We look more attacking that last season anyway.

Must be one of your most positive posts ever!:D

In relation to Ngog, he is no Torres now but the situation dictates he is probably second choice striker at the moment, ideally he would be a third choice.

People seem to forget he is only 21 and still raw but he has continued to show improvement, Didier Drogba was a nobody at the age of 21 and Ngog has a better goalscoring ratio last season than Drogba did in the French League at around the same age.He has also more often than not played the loan striker role - which only the very best strikers in the World can do.

Think of Ngog for the future more than now, it is not his fault he has got so many games over the last season or so. At the moment we need to hold onto him (Torres injured), but a loan spell with guaranteed first team football would be a good move also.

[joe77]

"Think of Ngog for the future more than now, it is not his fault he has got so many games over the last season or so. At the moment we need to hold onto him (Torres injured), but a loan spell with guaranteed first team football would be a good move also."

So if he goes out on loan and Torres injured, what do we do then? Kuyt's original role was striker, Babel was originally in a strikers role also. I would like to see a lot more of him upfront

[Andrew]

Are the highlights for this game up anywhere?

[dk.lfc]

Impressed with Cole and Milan last night and I thought Kelly and Glen done well down the wings, some lovely weaveing runs forward from Glen. N'gog took his header very well but Fu*k me he could have netted 5 or 6 but he is improving all the time and id say his confidence is fairly high

[GaryMc]

Impressed with Cole and Milan last night and I thought Kelly and Glen done well down the wings, some lovely weaveing runs forward from Glen. N'gog took his header very well but Fu*k me he could have netted 5 or 6 but he is improving all the time and id say his confidence is fairly high

Johnson is super going forward however against better sides he can get caught out of position at the back. He needs to find the balance

[prendy]

Johnson is super going forward however against better sides he can get caught out of position at the back. He needs to find the balance

Agreed.

Although he's a player I enjoy watching he also makes me nervous. For a player with his experience he gets caught out of position an awfull lot.
Hopefull Roy will get that part of his game up to scratch then he will be a class act.

[dk.lfc]

anyone hear the attendance from last night?

[KOPSTAR]

anyone hear the attendance from last night?

Not 100% Looked about 30.000

[john gotti]

Not 100% Looked about 30.000

id say it was about 26000 at the most

We played some nice ball and looked like we can create chances fairly handy

[garyc]

Hard to judge the performance because of the opposition but at least the players looked half interested, which is more than can be said for last season!!
Joe Cole had a great game and i can see him and Nando forming a great partnership!!

The team seemed to play with a lot more freedom than they did under Rafa, and it defo seemed like the type of performance where before the game Woy just told them to go out and enjoy it and express themselves, you think Stevie would have attempted so many back heels and flicks under Rafa??? :rolleyes:

[Irishlad]

31,202

http://lfz2004.wordpress.com/2010/08/05/liverpool-2-0-fc-rabotnicki-team-stats/

[vodkacolly]

Being repeated on Setanta now for anyone that missed it

[Maverick]

Good performance against poor opposition.Attacking wise it was a breath of fresh air but again hard to judge based on the opposition.Joe cole was very impressive and jovanovic showed promise but all in all we controlled the game and created plenty of chances.I must say I'm really looking forward to seeing cole gerrard and torres playing together.As regards ngog,he has a long way to go IMO but is getting dare I say better with experience.We still need someone better than him to fill in for torres though.

[redspider]

05-Aug-2010
Liverpool 2 - Rabotnicki Skopje 0 (agg: 4-0 Europa League)
N’Gog 22
Gerrard 40 (pen)

Liverpool played another pre-season loss before this match, using it to ‘warm-up’ some of the more experienced players, which were then used in this match. Given that the tie was mor eor less wound up after the 1st leg, this was likely to be more like a practice match than anything, although slighlt better as the result still counted. Liverpool won this match with ease.

The team lined up more like a 4-1-4-1, with Hodgson using only Lucas as a real holding player although Gerrard was back there sometimes. Cole played in a more advanced role than Stevie. This was closer to a 1st team, althought not quite. Kelly was switched to left-back this time, proving his versatility and usefulness:

------------- Cavalieri -------------
Johnson - Carragher - Skrtel - Kelly
---------------- Lucas --------------
Pacheco* - Gerrard – Cole - Jovanovic*
---------- N’Gog ---------------

(*) players switched wings

Subs: Aquilani for Gerrard (62m), Maxi for Jovanovic (67m), Spearing for Lucas (73mins)


The opposition were once again very weak and created hardly anything. This match was all Liverpool so it was going to be a case of how many, rather than who would win. Liverpool found things quite easy.

Johnson played well getting a lot down the right. Carragher and Skrtel dealt with everything that eventually came their way. Lucas was mopping up. Stevie G was very inventive, making long passes and making Liverpool tick. Martin Kelly did well down his unfavoured left side. But with Insua staying and Aurelio back, and Agger also having done well in that role, surely we wont see him being deployed much as a left-back.

Joe Cole played well as an inside-forward type of role. I think he has more quality as a player than Benayoun, perhaps not as unpredictable as Yossi is but with more pace, etc. He may prove his worth although it will take a long while before I can ‘accept’ a Chelsea-player of 7 years as a true Red.

Jovanovic is strong and tries hard, but I don’t think he has deft and close ball control and doesn’t like like a winger-wizard to me. He doesn’t look as good as Riera was or could have been. Ironically, he is more Kuyt like, with a bit more pace perhaps. Also ironically, he was a player ‘disaffected’ with the manager at his previous club, a bit like Riera with Benitez. We ‘give away’ our problems and we get ‘theirs’. That’s football and people I guess.

Pacheco was also playing out wide, but that doesn’t seem to be his natural position which to me is in closer to the danger area in and around the inside-right or left positions.

As for N’Gog, oh my. Yes, he scored, but boy did he miss loads and loads of chances and failed abysmallyt to set goals up when through and on. I still don’t think he is of sufficient quality for us, and I don’t know if Hodgson is looking for another striker but surely that is a must. We have enough midfielders, we have enough defenders, we have 4 players that can play left back if not 5. But we do not have qnough quality strikers and one to help or stand-in for Torres, when he gets injured. Which is a probability rather than just a mere possibility.

We played well, some nice touches. N’Gog got a headed goal unmarked, clearly the opposition were weak. And he was barely fouled and Gerrard put away the penalty. The tie was over as a contest as was the match and Liverpool should have scored more. Perhaps in a strange kind of way its better that we didn’t as players wont lose the ‘run of themselves’ with a 5 or 6-0 win. Next up in this competition its Tranbzonspor. No Turkish teams are easy but on paper we should get past them. And next up in the league it’s the little matter of Arsenal.

And if things weren’t busy enough, the sales process is moving ahead, with both the Syrian/Canadian bid and the Huang Chinese bid getting the most airtime. How any new Owners will work out is unknown at this point in time, but surely they cant be any worse than the soon departing Gillet & Hicks. The times, they are a-changing, and hopefully for the better for Liverpool FC.

Redspider

http://LiverpoolRedspider.wordpress.com/

[Alex Raisbeck]

One thing from the game that brought a smile to my face was seeing Roy celevrate one of the goals.
It wasn't Rafa's way to do that, but there's something you like about it with Roy at the moment.

[bono]

One thing from the game that brought a smile to my face was seeing Roy celevrate one of the goals.
It wasn't Rafa's way to do that, but there's something you like about it with Roy at the moment.

Think you'll find Roy does a lot of things Rafa never use to do. (it's not a dig at Rafa) Looking foward to this season think we'll have a lot to cheer about this year.

[zamaguire]

Sat in the Kop thursday night and it was like a wake in the second half.

[CrazyHorse]

Sat in the Kop thursday night and it was like a wake in the second half.

And what are we going to do about it, nothing according to a majority of Liverpool fans on here. Lets all turn a blind eye to it and keep organising our trips, buying our shirts ect. WAKE UP.

:rolleyes:

Bet you've got the new shirt and all, eh!

[Carroll9]

:rolleyes:

Bet you've got the new shirt and all, eh!

Good to see hypocrisy is alive and well.:)