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armaghred
27-07-2010, 09:47 PM
Liverpool have made a surprise move for the Aston Villa full-back Luke Young. Roy Hodgson, the Liverpool manager, tried to sign Young earlier this year when he was in charge of Fulham and he has now rekindled his interest in the former England international. Liverpool are understood to have tabled a £2.75m bid for a player who has been told he is surplus to requirements at Villa Park.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jul/27/liverpool-luke-young-aston-villa
JMurray#8
27-07-2010, 09:57 PM
Can't see it being more than speculation myself but honestly if there is any truth in this I can't see the point, a useless option for a left back meaning the left will still be a weak point teams will target...
travis
27-07-2010, 10:00 PM
Well where did that one come out of.. don't know much about him , Roy must be under pressure to increase his quota of homegrown players, hence the story today about Maxi leaving to go back to Spain.
Terry Conlon
27-07-2010, 10:07 PM
Surplus to requirements @ Villa, that really says a lot bout where we are. He is Sh**e
Irishlad
27-07-2010, 10:09 PM
Not a bad option to cover both full back positions. We'll need a second LB anyway, mavinga aint ready and it would be stupid going into the season with one. That's assuming that a first choice one would be coming in as well.
stevieg05
27-07-2010, 10:14 PM
Would be a good back up right back instead of pushin carra out there when johnsons injured, wudnt like to see him playin left back too often tho. Another english player aswel which would be good.
travis
27-07-2010, 11:13 PM
Looks like this deal is done for £2.5m.............
Luke Young will be absent from the Aston Villa squad jetting out to Portugal after they agreed a deal to sell him to Liverpool.
The 31-year-old is set to miss this weekend's Guadiana Cup, where Villa will do battle with Benfica and Feyenoord, after Anfield chiefs agreed a fee of £2.5million with their Premier League rivals.
Young's imminent switch to Merseyside looks set to be met with bewilderment by the Kop with Glen Johnson firmly established at the club's first-choice right-back with Academy graduates Martin Kelly and Stephen Darby able to provide adequate back-up in the event of injury.
But the new Reds manager is hoping that the defender will be able to plug the gap in the left-hand side of defence, having fulfilled the role during Wilfried Bouma's prolonged spell on the sidelines, following Fabio Aurelio's departure.
Young publicly expressed his frustrations at being deployed at left-back but has been preferred despite Emiliano Insua's future remaining unclear after failing to agree personal terms with Fiorentina whilst Danny Wilson has offered to deputise in the role if required.
Hodgson revealed yesterday at the unveiling of Wilson and fellow summer signings Milan Jovanovic and Joe Cole he hopes to secure the services of more new players before the summer transfer window closes despite admitting that he faces a big rebuilding process.
He said: "We're still interested in some other players so I hope that this won't be the last of our signings.
"The aim of the board, chief executive Christian Purslow and everyone at the club is to try to make this squad as competitive as possible.
"If we can sign several more players to make the squad stronger then that will also help but we need to make the point that it's a new start and a new dawn for the club.
"But you don't put to right the things that have gone wrong overnight and it's our job to work at it."
Following the sudden death of half-brother Andre whilst on holiday Young struggled to displace Carlos Cuéllar as Villa's first-choice right-back last season, making only 14 domestic starts but remains a firm fans' favourite at Villa Park.
stevieg
27-07-2010, 11:17 PM
Looks like this deal is done for £2.5m.............
Hope not he's shyte and a right back, especially when it's a left back we need (at least one)
ecowarrior10
27-07-2010, 11:18 PM
FFS roy seriously , the only plausible reason is that home grown status.
Fantana
27-07-2010, 11:20 PM
You just beat me to the post Travis! Lost his way at Villa I think, plus I seem to remember he had some family troubles which affected him. Was the great White hope at Spurs, player of the year at Charlton, and won England caps at Boro but all at right back I think? Plus this article says he was p**sed off playing LB so he's not going to be an answer to our problems there is he? Strange one
travis
27-07-2010, 11:21 PM
I'm happy enough with this , it's good that we're getting another English player, he'll be a good squad player better than Degen , Darby is not ready yet. I don't believe he's shite like some make out, Hodgson is known for turning players careers around.
Bostonred
27-07-2010, 11:32 PM
Never good enough to be a Liverpool player. That's the problem with Roy he doesn't know what a Liverpool player is. He's a signing Fulham would have made. Poor signing if it happens. To go from signing Cole to this major let down.
Fantana
27-07-2010, 11:33 PM
I'm happy enough with this , it's good that we're getting another English player, he'll be a good squad player better than Degen , Darby is not ready yet. I don't believe he's shite like some make out, Hodgson is known for turning players careers around.
Yes Shyte is a big over reaction, he's far from it, but wouldn't like to see him stunt Kellys development. Think Darby is probably due a loan spell again. Hasn't looked good in pre season. Maybe Young FB and Glen J RW, on occasion?
Irishlad
27-07-2010, 11:38 PM
Never good enough to be a Liverpool player. That's the problem with Roy he doesn't know what a Liverpool player is. He's a signing Fulham would have made. Poor signing if it happens. To go from signing Cole to this major let down.
Joe Cole would have been an ok signing for Fulham and all. :rolleyes:
bryanod
27-07-2010, 11:56 PM
Not a left back at all, ugh awful, could be one of the worst we've been linked with there and that is saying something.
LFC Barry
28-07-2010, 12:02 AM
Strange one, really don't think he's good enough for our squad.
If he's for left back, I really hope its as a backup to the likes of Figueroa.
As right back, I would have liked to see Kelly as Johnsons backup.
I can't really see where he fits in unless he is actually our new first choice left back. If that the case, I'd be very disappointed
Bostonred
28-07-2010, 03:00 AM
Joe Cole would have been an ok signing for Fulham and all. :rolleyes:
Do you think Cole would've signed for Fulham? NO! Luke Young is just not good enough for LFC. Finding it hard to get a LB since Riise was sold. Surely we can do better tham Young.
ROCCO
28-07-2010, 07:21 AM
Taking Villa's cast offs .... cant believe were paying them .
Why are we paying £2.5m for a 31 year old natural right back with only 1 year left on his contract to play left back.
Hope its not cover for Glen and a replacement for Degen when we have Kelly as cover ...
All that said he wouldn't be a bad Bosman but surprised were paying £2.5m .Then i suppose most Bosmans end up costing around £2m as signing on fee with us.
Seems to me we are bringing him as cover for Glen , hopefully this means we have got rid of Degen , does this mean Kelly will be cover in the middle and either Ayala loaned out or Soto been sold ?
Badman
28-07-2010, 07:31 AM
i'm not sure this deal is done and dusted yet - havent seen it on the bbc website, teamtalk or the LFC official site. just wondering is it more agent BS trying to get his client a move or something
honald_tdb
28-07-2010, 07:34 AM
At 31, he is obviously not a long term buy! Not sure about the price being value for money - on last year's form, he aint good enough but we need english players and he may do a job!
campo
28-07-2010, 07:49 AM
i'm not sure this deal is done and dusted yet - havent seen it on the bbc website, teamtalk or the LFC official site. just wondering is it more agent BS trying to get his client a move or something
I reckon this is done and dusted since he has not travelled with the Villa squad,
Niall
28-07-2010, 08:12 AM
Martin O'Neill has confirmed that Aston Villa have received a bid for full-back Luke Young.
The 31-year-old is now weighing up his options, with Villa prepared to let him leave should he wish to do so.
It is believed that Liverpool are the club to have made their move for the former England international, with a £2.75million offer on the table.
Villa are prepared to let Young decide what his future will hold and will not stand in his way if he wishes to continue his career elsewhere.
They are, however, happy for him to stay and have revealed that he could link up with their squad heading for the Guadiana Cup in Portugal.
"There has been an offer from a football club, which Luke is mulling over," O'Neill told Villa's official website.
"If it doesn't materialise then he would also join us (in Portugal) because he needs to play some football soon."
"We will see how that develops."
Young joined Villa from Middlesbrough in 2008 and has made over 50 appearances for the club during his two years in Midlands.
He has seven England caps to his name, but announced his retirement from international football in February 2009.
GaryMc
28-07-2010, 08:16 AM
In my opinion he is no worse than Josemi or Kromkramp. If Deggen leaves he is a decent enough squad player to cover RB and LB but no more than that.
kaka2001
28-07-2010, 08:17 AM
Not the worst player to have in the squad but defo not worth the money. He should be a free transfer if anything! Anyone think there is an element of panic buying here?
ROCCO
28-07-2010, 08:22 AM
Aston Villa manager Martin O'Neill has confirmed the club have received an offer for defender Luke Young, thought to be from Liverpool.
O'Neill told the club's official website: "There has been an offer from a football club which Luke is mulling over and, if it doesn't materialise, then he would join us (in Portugal for the Guadiana Cup) because he needs to play some football soon.
"We will see how that develops."
wonit5times
28-07-2010, 08:36 AM
prob goin to join us as if he cant get into the villa team and we actually want him its a no brainer for young.
squad player but a usefull one i suppose
campo
28-07-2010, 08:47 AM
prob goin to join us as if he cant get into the villa team and we actually want him its a no brainer for young.
squad player but a usefull one i suppose
Squad player yes but we already have Kelly, Darby, Irwin who can play at RB
I really feel one of those players should have been promoted to the 1st team squad
Dzer2
28-07-2010, 08:49 AM
Too old Slow amd Sh1te leave him where he is
Liverpool-law
28-07-2010, 08:55 AM
Maybe Young FB and Glen J RW, on occasion?
I think this is more likely, if Degen is on the way out, need more than young fellas for cover. I could see Johnson being used on the wing sometimes with Young in RB. I still think we'll get an out and out left full back. As for people giving out about the money, I think you can't get much for 2.5 million, he doesn't set the world alight but I wouldn't call him shit. He was playing very well two years ago and I think Roy could get a lot out of him for the money involved. The negativity on here is a drain.
ROCCO
28-07-2010, 08:56 AM
Squad player yes but we already have Kelly, Darby, Irwin who can play at RB
I really feel one of those players should have been promoted to the 1st team squad
Can see the thinking behind bringing Young in as can cover left and right back and qualifies under the home grown rule .
And with more than likely Degen been sold and Kelly's injury record , we may need another squad player.
Maybe Kelly will also cover as centre back and Ayala loaned out or Soto been sold ?
Personally i dont think Darby is good enough and can se him been loaned out or sold on .
And Irwin no way ready to cover in the first team .
serpheus
28-07-2010, 09:00 AM
I think this is more likely, if Degen is on the way out, need more than young fellas for cover. I could see Johnson being used on the wing sometimes with Young in RB. I still think we'll get an out and out left full back. As for people giving out about the money, I think you can't get much for 2.5 million, he doesn't set the world alight but I wouldn't call him shit. He was playing very well two years ago and I think Roy could get a lot out of him for the money involved. The negativity on here is a drain.
Exactly. We need to start building a squad not just a first eleven. And don't forget that GJ is not a very good defender.
GaryMc
28-07-2010, 09:49 AM
I think this is more likely, if Degen is on the way out, need more than young fellas for cover. I could see Johnson being used on the wing sometimes with Young in RB. I still think we'll get an out and out left full back. As for people giving out about the money, I think you can't get much for 2.5 million, he doesn't set the world alight but I wouldn't call him shit. He was playing very well two years ago and I think Roy could get a lot out of him for the money involved. The negativity on here is a drain.
yep, for a lot of people everything is either great or shite.;)
Clerk
28-07-2010, 09:57 AM
Exactly. We need to start building a squad not just a first eleven. And don't forget that GJ is not a very good defender.
I agree. We badly need to build up the squad. Johnson is very injury prone.
Ok he's 31, but he's an England international with good Premiereship experience.
Hodgson did a great job at this end of the market at Fulham so I'd trust his judgement.
Besides we've no ****ing money so this is our budget. Hodgson wants a RB and this obviously is his budget. Basically nil really.
We've net nil expenditure again and probably a profit when Masch goes. It's a joke.
GaryMc
28-07-2010, 09:57 AM
Aston Villa defender Luke Young has emerged as a target for Liverpool - and is weighing up whether to make a £2.5million move to Anfield.
Villa manager Martin O'Neill has confirmed he has received an offer for former England right-back Luke Young.
And sources close to the club indicate the interest in the former Charlton and Middlesbrough player is from the Reds.
Young was one of half a dozen players made available for transfer at the end of the season - if the price was right.
He was a key performer during his first campaign at Villa after making a £5 million switch from Middlesbrough during the summer of 2008.
But he suffered early injury problems last season and then was given compassionate leave after the death of his brother.
In his absence Carlos Cuellar cemented his position at right-back and Young has become surplus to requirements.
O'Neill said: "There has been an offer from a football club which Luke is mulling over and, if it doesn't materialise, then he would join us in Portugal (for the Guadiana Cup)."
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Might explain a bit his loss of form. Cuellar has rumored to be interesting Real and Barca so just because he is second choice at Villa does not mean he is a mug. Again I dont think he is world beater, however the squad is weak and he would beef it up.
Badman
28-07-2010, 09:59 AM
denis irwin was a right back who did a damn fine job at left back into his early 30s - just cos he's a natural right back doesnt bother me coz i think he can cover both sides. not one to set the pulses racing but roy obviously trusts him and was prob watching him before he came to liverpool. and somewere quite happy to pay around the same fee for the psv right back - think hes mexican, salciedo or something, and he's 30 as well...at least we know young has played and can survive in the prem league. as other posters have said i think we'll still get a specialist left back and kelly will prob cover centreback as i reckon soto is going...and maybe agger too if the rumours to juve are to be believed. i still think Italy is where agger will end up and it would suit him best too
Bren100
28-07-2010, 10:09 AM
Luke Young!!!! - I wouldnt have thought we would have bid for him
:eek:
ROCCO
28-07-2010, 10:13 AM
denis irwin was a right back who did a damn fine job at left back into his early 30s - just cos he's a natural right back doesnt bother me coz i think he can cover both sides. not one to set the pulses racing but roy obviously trusts him and was prob watching him before he came to liverpool. and somewere quite happy to pay around the same fee for the psv right back - think hes mexican, salciedo or something, and he's 30 as well...at least we know young has played and can survive in the prem league. as other posters have said i think we'll still get a specialist left back and kelly will prob cover centreback as i reckon soto is going...and maybe agger too if the rumours to juve are to be believed. i still think Italy is where agger will end up and it would suit him best too
http://www.7msport.com/news/upload_img/20100415/Carlos-Salcido.jpg
If the fees for Carlos Salcido of £2-3m are correct ... imo it would be a great deal.
Also can play centre back and has played regular for the last 7 years without any serious if any injuries and champions league and international experience.
Aggressive in the tackle and aggressive and fast going forward.
Badman
28-07-2010, 10:25 AM
i'm not saying salciedo is a bad choice - i'm just saying u can have all the international and CL experience you want but it still doesnt mean u would adapt to the premier league...remember morientes, i think he had plenty of CL and international experience and was agressive and strong in the air...but was a massive flop, ditto for veron atman utd, schevchenko at teh chavs. I'm not saying he'd flop, in all probability he'd do fine but at least roy knows what he's gonna get from young. i'm just saying that altho he wouldnt be someone i'd have gone for i can see the reasoning behind it.
ROCCO
28-07-2010, 10:39 AM
i'm not saying salciedo is a bad choice - i'm just saying u can have all the international and CL experience you want but it still doesnt mean u would adapt to the premier league...remember morientes, i think he had plenty of CL and international experience and was agressive and strong in the air...but was a massive flop, ditto for veron atman utd, schevchenko at teh chavs. I'm not saying he'd flop, in all probability he'd do fine but at least roy knows what he's gonna get from young. i'm just saying that altho he wouldnt be someone i'd have gone for i can see the reasoning behind it.
For £2-3m id take the risk and look to keep Insua and see if he improves as cover for Carlos Salcido or if Insua goes id still bring in Carlos Salcido and wait until we have the funds to bring in a top draw left back .
Seems Carlos Salcido hasn't been injured looking back over his last 7 years or nothing serious as has notched up a lot games each season and seemed from the world cup a aggressive defender in defence and aggressive and fast going forward seems perfect imo for the premier league... at £2-3m id take a risk.
Caught my eye in the world cup ....
Skintown Red
28-07-2010, 11:01 AM
Definitely think this money could be spent better. It's not as if we have millions to be pissing away. We have cover for rb in Kelly, Darby and Carra.
Even if we do sign Young we are still going to need another left back, so if we are serious about getting back into the top 4 this season we need quality and imo the 2.5mil would be better spent on a out and out left back
stevieg
28-07-2010, 11:06 AM
denis irwin was a right back who did a damn fine job at left back into his early 30s - just cos he's a natural right back doesnt bother me coz i think he can cover both sides. not one to set the pulses racing but roy obviously trusts him and was prob watching him before he came to liverpool. and somewere quite happy to pay around the same fee for the psv right back - think hes mexican, salciedo or something, and he's 30 as well...at least we know young has played and can survive in the prem league. as other posters have said i think we'll still get a specialist left back and kelly will prob cover centreback as i reckon soto is going...and maybe agger too if the rumours to juve are to be believed. i still think Italy is where agger will end up and it would suit him best too
Denis Irwin is one of the best defenders ever to play in the PL and for Ireland, big difference between Irwin and first team backup for Villa.
Fowler's God
28-07-2010, 11:11 AM
This is only the beginning of the average players coming that don't deserve to wear the Red shirt simple as. This signing says to me how ambitious we are, we have none.
Terry Conlon
28-07-2010, 11:12 AM
Definitely think this money could be spent better. It's not as if we have millions to be pissing away. We have cover for rb in Kelly, Darby and Carra.
Even if we do sign Young we are still going to need another left back, so if we are serious about getting back into the top 4 this season we need quality and imo the 2.5mil would be better spent on a out and out left back
Spot on mate, we need a left back and the 2.75m would be better off being put into that deal and once we have a team then worry about a squad after that. Element of learning to run before you can walk.
Fowler's God
28-07-2010, 11:19 AM
I have being thinking, Salcido from PSV would be a fantastic for a few years now cost 3 million which would be a snip. Rather him than Luke Young.
GaryMc
28-07-2010, 11:25 AM
I have being thinking, Salcido from PSV would be a fantastic for a few years now cost 3 million which would be a snip. Rather him than Luke Young.
I think if Young comes in, its for right back cover and not as first choice left back.
Deggen is gone, Darby unproven and Kelly is injury prone at RB. Johnson is also injury prone.
I think 2 million for an experienced premiership player with international experience is not bad for a back up right back.
I think Roy has targets for left back.
I for one am glad we are going down the route of experieneced Premiership players rather than risky imports who you don't know what you are going to get. I would put Salcido in that category, if he is that good why is still at PSV?
Badman
28-07-2010, 11:26 AM
I think if Young comes in, its for right back cover and not as first choice left back.
Deggen is gone, Darby unproven and Kelly is injury prone at RB. Johnson is also injury prone.
I think 2 million for an experienced premiership player with international experience is not bad for a back up right back.
I think Roy has targets for left back.
I for one am glad we are going down the route of experieneced Premiership players rather than risky imports who you don't know what you are going to get. I would put Salcido in that category, if he is that good why is still at PSV?
My point exactly!
Gray72
28-07-2010, 11:37 AM
Liverpool agree fee with Villa for Young, superb news, Luke Young not Ashley Young, ah not so good. Where has it all gone wrong, this is not a good buy but I suppose he is English for the old quota system.:(
Derekc
28-07-2010, 12:10 PM
if he's cover for overall defence maybe, if he's going to end up playing left full then it sucks the big one.
salcido is well worth a punt also as has been mentioned previously.
travis
28-07-2010, 12:13 PM
So 2 freebies, a youngster from rangers who cost 2m and Luke Young for around £2.5m, so much for the substantial transfer kitty eh !! Luke Young will be a decent squad player if this does go through, but I will put a bet on that Roy will get next to nothing from the sale of Mascherano.
ROCCO
28-07-2010, 12:23 PM
So 2 freebies, a youngster from rangers who cost 2m and Luke Young for around £2.5m, so much for the substantial transfer kitty eh !! Luke Young will be a decent squad player if this does go through, but I will put a bet on that Roy will get next to nothing from the sale of Mascherano.
With Gerrard and Torres staying and Cole signing id say they were give guarantees money would be spent ...
Not that they will , but id say they told Gerrard Torres and Cole they would be spending on transfers or new owners will be by the next transfer window at the latest .
Cant see Torres and Gerrard committing to stay just because we have a new Manager more than likely Cecil gave certain guarantees to them.
Derschlimm
28-07-2010, 12:24 PM
IMHO, handy to have as back up but thats all, till he proves different, would prefer Figueroa or Bridge personally but thats just my poinion.
Bren100
28-07-2010, 12:36 PM
I hope this signing, if it goes through, is a squad signing and not a first team signing.
Liverpool-law
28-07-2010, 12:38 PM
I think people are jumping on the guy's back unfairly. With the death in his family and injuries he had a bad time of it but he had a very good season two years ago. I'm sure he's cover for left back, and I'd go with him over some lad that people saw in the world cup and are getting their knickers in a twist over after seeing him in a few games. Give me premiership experience over a 30 year old who plies his trade in Holland and would not necessarily settle for the same money.
Fantana
28-07-2010, 01:36 PM
Jesus the positivity didn't last too long after JC's signing did it. People are going out predicting the end of the world again just because we have BID for not signed a full back. A full back who has years of premier league experience and is not going to be first choice at RB or LB but can cover both. Yet we're acting like he's going to play every game this season. He'll be cover and that will be it. It takes 20 games to get to the Europa lge final, do you think Johnson is going to play all those 20 games or whoever we sign at LB? This is an absolute marathon season and we need back up that can be relied on to do a job not a Mexican of the same age who won't bother his arse in a carling cup game V S****horpe. Players bought on the back of decent world cups can be a disaster as we all well know. I know I'd rather rely on Young than Deggen as back up and we ended up playing Masch at right back last season so don't tell me we're well equipped there. To be honest i'd have rather had Young instead of Kromkamp, Josemi or Degen all of those wonderful players that were brought to the club. Darby is not good enough at the moment and let's be honest most of us are basing our assessment of Kelly on his performance V Lyon so it may take him some time to step up to the mark.
Young is a decent back up for a long road ahead and I don't think we should get too hung up about it
Pimboli
28-07-2010, 01:48 PM
I dont see what the problem is signing Young, we are getting an experienced cheap right back as cover for Johnson. Roy has his targets for left back Im sure so people shouldnt be jumping up and down assuming he is going to be played on the left.
I also believe Roy will get money from the Masch deal but they arent going to let him buy in advance of us getting any money in. There is nothing yet to say Liverpool wont do a Villa and keep him unless they get exactly what the value him at the way Villa did during the Barry saga and now the Milner one with City.
Badman
28-07-2010, 01:58 PM
yeah the negativity is gas - you'd swear we went out and bought someone like josemi, kromkamp, dossena or insua who couldnt defend to save their lives...oh wait, we already did that in the previous administration. the saddest thing is that young is actually a better natural DEFENDER than johnson (albeit magic is way better in attack) who we paid 18m for. if aurelio DOES come back and stays fit he'd prob be nailed on for the ledft back slot every week
LFC Barry
28-07-2010, 03:27 PM
Looks like this is going to happen. His agent says we've agreed a fee and are discussing terms
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/aston_villa/8863364.stm
Aston Villa's Luke Young poised for Liverpool move
Aston Villa defender Luke Young is on the verge of joining Liverpool, according to the player's agent.
Young's representative, Andy Evans, said the two clubs had agreed a fee and were discussing personal terms for the 31-year-old former England right-back.
Villa manager Martin O'Neill stated on Tuesday that an offer had been made by an unnamed club.
Liverpool would not confirm the bid, although Young has not travelled to Portugal for Villa's pre-season tour.
The full-back was made available for transfer in May and is believed to have been coveted by Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson when he was at Fulham during the 2009-10 season.
"There has been an offer from a football club which Luke is mulling over," O'Neill said.
Young joined Villa in summer 2008 from Middlesbrough in a £5m move and became a key performer in his first season at Villa Park.
Last season he suffered early injury problems and was later given compassionate leave after the death of his brother, with Carlos Cuellar cementing his position at right-back.
Liverpool have been weakened at the full-back position by the departure of Fabio Aurelio on a free transfer. The Reds have also released Switzerland international Philipp Degen.
Another full-back, Emiliano Insua, is still waiting to hear if a £5m move to Italian club Fiorentina will go through.
Clerk
28-07-2010, 04:27 PM
Liverpool agree fee with Villa for Young, superb news, Luke Young not Ashley Young, ah not so good. (
To be honest I was the same. Should have know better though. :rolleyes:
Looks like we have a mid table budget for players.
MutantNinjaSkrtel
28-07-2010, 04:33 PM
If he's being brought in as a right back,then fine,it wasn't a priority but we needed cover there.If Roy is planning on using him as a left back on a regular basis we are fcuked.
wonit5times
28-07-2010, 04:46 PM
If he's being brought in as a right back,then fine,it wasn't a priority but we needed cover there.If Roy is planning on using him as a left back on a regular basis we are fcuked.
dont see how we would be ****ed as if he can play right back he can play left back and has played there for villa
MutantNinjaSkrtel
28-07-2010, 04:49 PM
dont see how we would be ****ed as if he can play right back he can play left back and has played there for villa
And he kicked up a fuss at having to play left back and is generally not particularly good there....
wonit5times
28-07-2010, 04:55 PM
And he kicked up a fuss at having to play left back and is generally not particularly good there....
still he played there and thats your opinion that hes not generaly good there
wasnt in the best of mind frame i think at stages in his villa career, im not saying hes brilliant either but can do a job for us there.
May not be even playing LB but we just wait and see
MutantNinjaSkrtel
28-07-2010, 05:03 PM
still he played there and thats your opinion that hes not generaly good there
wasnt in the best of mind frame i think at stages in his villa career, im not saying hes brilliant either but can do a job for us there.
May not be even playing LB but we just wait and see
Seems to be the general concensus amongst the Villa fans and he's said he's not happy playing in that position.Still think we should be aiming a bit higher than relying on 31 year old right backs that Villa dont wan't to 'do a job for us' on the left.Think he's solid enough cover for the right but would not be happy if we've signed him to play on the left.
gavindoyle
28-07-2010, 05:21 PM
Waste of money that is buyin him would rather spend it on a youth or something he will be worth nothing this time next year in fact i would rather just keep degan and use the money on trying to attract a bigger signing
travis
28-07-2010, 05:30 PM
Waste of money that is buyin him would rather spend it on a youth or something he will be worth nothing this time next year in fact i would rather just keep degan and use the money on trying to attract a bigger signing
I'd much rather have a player like Young in the team when we're playing the likes of Blackburn away on a freezing cold Wednesday night instead of your Degans, Dossena's and Josemi's, Young is the type of player that will give a fcuk about these matches.
torrard89
28-07-2010, 07:18 PM
great point couldnt agree more
Did this lad play for Charlton & was tought of very highly for them?
torrard89
28-07-2010, 07:26 PM
yep thats him
masterbenji
28-07-2010, 07:34 PM
is there any decent left backs around that we could actually afford??...and he has to be good enough to be in the startin lineup!
Badman
28-07-2010, 07:45 PM
is there any decent left backs around that we could actually afford??...and he has to be good enough to be in the startin lineup!
Konchesky would be one - i actually think he's solid and reliable, i'm a little less certain about figueroa or salciedo. i'd happily have konchesky as my first choice left back, dont think he'd let u down
MutantNinjaSkrtel
28-07-2010, 07:49 PM
Difficulties agreeing terms at the moment apparently.He's supposed to be on good money at Villa but if he's refusing to take a pay cut to join Liverpool when he's 31 and out of favour he can piss off.
babbsnads
28-07-2010, 07:50 PM
Good signing imo. Experienced pro who's proved he can play in the premiership and won't let anyone down. He'll be used as a right back and we definitely need another right back. A lot of people seem to have a problem that we're only spending 2.75 million on a player but maxi was free and the Greek was only 1 million and they haven't been bad signings.
I'm certain Roy has left backs in mind so let's give him the benefit of the doubt. Young didn't have a great season last year but either did plenty of our players who weren't going through what he was. A change of seen could be just what he needs. So let's give him a chance because we're going to need him.
masterbenji
28-07-2010, 08:14 PM
Konchesky would be one - i actually think he's solid and reliable, i'm a little less certain about figueroa or salciedo. i'd happily have konchesky as my first choice left back, dont think he'd let u down
ye konchesky is quite good...just rememberin his game wen we played west ham in fa cup final...he had a great game and the goal he scored!...even though it was a cross!:p
armaghred
28-07-2010, 08:51 PM
Few people saying he's looking 60k per week, kindly fook right off:D
Derekc
28-07-2010, 09:03 PM
I'd much rather have a player like Young in the team when we're playing the likes of Blackburn away on a freezing cold Wednesday night instead of your Degans, Dossena's and Josemi's, Young is the type of player that will give a fcuk about these matches.
What about when we're playing the likes of Blackburn at home on a Saturday and he doesn't cross the half line? Or better yet keeps cutting inside on his right foot because he hasn't got a left one.
Apologies for being sarcastic but you could stay that freezing cold analogy about half the players in the prem league, doesn't mean we should sign someone coz he's British and doesn't mind playing in the rain
ROCCO
29-07-2010, 07:51 AM
Luke Young has risked the wrath of Aston Villa boss Martin O'Neill by stalling on a move to Liverpool as he wants a pay-off.
Liverpool have agreed a fee of £2.5million with Villa for the unsettled versatile defender, who earns currently around £40,000-a-week.
But Young is insisting on a 'golden goodbye' from Villa Park before leaving as he would have to take a drop in wages at Liverpool
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-transfer-news-Young-s-Anfield-move-in-doubt-over-Aston-Villa-pay-off-Exclusive-article539215.html
WASTE of money this is we already have johno, kelly and darby who can play at right back
lucas st g
29-07-2010, 10:53 AM
can no one see the bigger picture look at roys previous times only one team had rampaging full backs of the ilk of johnson and kelly he perfers a solid bank of four staying in poisiton young is a very good defender intelligent and as mentioned above not afraid of playing anywhere anytime two years ago he was talked up as the answer to englands rb problems u can not go from international material to obsecurity in that space of time the guy has talent and i would be delighted to have him in our squad
ecowarrior10
29-07-2010, 10:54 AM
Deal off apparently
wont take a pay cut.
Derekc
29-07-2010, 11:23 AM
u can not go from international material to obsecurity in that space of time
should we sign Michael rickets aswell?
caps are given out like confetti, means nothing
Beanokelly
29-07-2010, 01:17 PM
Deal is died in the water he doesn't want to move his family up north :D
clayton
29-07-2010, 01:21 PM
Deal is died in the water he doesn't want to move his family up north :D
thank heavens for that. I didn't want to see him at the club either, catt he is... And 31 years old.
kingofthekop
29-07-2010, 04:35 PM
best bit of news so far. hes siht!!
travis
29-07-2010, 04:37 PM
Turned down by Luke Young, Brummie is not too far from Liverpool you know.
bryanod
29-07-2010, 05:24 PM
Wage cut, moving north, insua money, whom knows!
Terry Conlon
29-07-2010, 07:05 PM
Often drove from Birmingham to Liverpool, he would never have to uproot his family. Never wanted him anyway. as stated b4 he is crap!
trucker
30-07-2010, 05:31 PM
Taken from another forum the bit in bold, maybe people should read it before they start questionings people character and motivations, as the comments on this thread last page or so are in very bad taste to say the least.
For What its worth i think he would have been a good addition.
"before people slate luke young for being a mercenary you should consider this. He moved closer to london last year after his young brother died to be closer to his mum and family hence why he doesn't want to move north now. He actually commutes from London for training everyday.
it more to do with the fact he is supporting his family especially those who are still grieving for the loss of a son or brother than a few extra grand at liverpool".
CHARMAC
30-07-2010, 05:35 PM
It puts a whole new slant on the situation trucker
Ron1892
30-07-2010, 05:55 PM
London to Birmingham is some drive, and its shows his dedication i guess to both his family and his club that he is willing to do it every day..Fair play to him..Didnt comment in this thread till i seen that..
torrard89
30-07-2010, 07:34 PM
Looks like its fallen through
honald_tdb
31-07-2010, 01:36 PM
Taken from another forum the bit in bold, maybe people should read it before they start questionings people character and motivations, as the comments on this thread last page or so are in very bad taste to say the least.
For What its worth i think he would have been a good addition.
"before people slate luke young for being a mercenary you should consider this. He moved closer to london last year after his young brother died to be closer to his mum and family hence why he doesn't want to move north now. He actually commutes from London for training everyday.
it more to do with the fact he is supporting his family especially those who are still grieving for the loss of a son or brother than a few extra grand at liverpool".
Maybe one thing is more improtant than footie - life............maybe!
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