How much you reckon Roy has left? Was reported he had about 12/15 to spend, if the Benayoun money went on Rafa going and getting Roy in, San Jose would have paid for Shelvey, Insua for Wilson and Joe Cole being a free he should still have about 12 minimum left? (Posibly closer to 20 is riera, degen, el zhar leave?) I don't trust the club, especially Purslow, a lot is being made of signing cole which is great but he was still a free transfer so he shouldn't eat into funds too much and players leaving have surely freed up wages to pay him
Liverpool seems to be the only club where the owners talk about wages in terms of the transfer budget. That's what they did last year when they said Torres Stevie etc had been given better contracts. So you could say if that's the case that 6 million has gone on Cole. It's all speculation, and you can't believe what the wanks say in the first place anyway. Just wait and see I think.
Whatever about wages I'm sure Cole got 3-4m signing on fee which would deffo come out of a transfer budget. No such thing as a free transfer, only the selling club loses out.
I think if the right palyer at the right price comes along then the money will be spent. I still think Masch will be sold for around 20m in the next week or so and then a striker and left back will be signed out of that. Maybe a utility player also. But dont expect more than that. Anymore signings are a bonus as long as stevie and nando stay as far as in concerned. Nothing commented on babels future either?? If he stays I think we'll see a completely different player next season.
Joe Cole would have been anything but free. You would probably be chatting most if not all of the Yossi fee.
One thing we all agree on, is that none of us trust the club ! That in itself, is a terrible shame but very much reflects the view of many LFC supporters these days, hence our need for www.SpiritofShankly.com to represent and unite us, in the hopes of restoring LFC to what it once was. With regards to the comments above, I fear there is sufficient funds for a half decent left back and after that, it's down to whatever Roy can bring in on a free transfer or perhaps some of the sale proceeds of any players, to give us additional strike power etc. It seems to me, he's been tasked with cutting the wage bill by off loading non-core players, hence he's telling the likes of Deegan that he's free to move club and I'd suspect, a couple of others have been told the same behind closed doors too. Despite what we all suspect that Joe Cole will be on a high weekly wage, I'm thinking of the net position here, rather than just one players cost needless to say. I'll be amazed if the spend tops £20m this summer (transfer fees, not the next 4 years wages totaled obviously ), unless we lose Mascherano - if we do (and sadly, it looks quite likely), then my suspicion is Roy will be allowed to spend half of whatever we sell Mascherano for, in addition to the £20m I'm guessing. All in all, I expect to see a smaller squad by the end of the summer, with a lower wage bill the result and probably, a few million gone back into LFC to help to pay the RBS interest bill. Obviously, I'd love to be proven wrong here.
would most agree a left back and striker are still a priority? i know we signed jovanovic but he's more a left sided attacker than stiker
Absolutely a left back. Maybe Roy intends to play Kuyt/Babel/Jovanovic as a striker if necessary. Isn't that Babel's preferred position? I don't think he was really given much of an opportunity to play through the middle yet, wouldn't mind seeing him get a few games there if necessary.
yea i'd like t see babel given a run up front. not sure if he has "football brain" for it though, a bit nani-esque with his decision making but worth a shot. type of player you'd expect big things from under roy
We should try and sign Steven Warnock back and even though he is at Villa I cant imagine he's cost an arm and a leg. He's English with Roy likes, proven and never wanted to leave. As for the transfer budget debate I think you have to factor in wages when talking about it. If we sold no one and bought a player for £4-5m in the last year of his contract and signed him for 4 years at £75k a week thats £20m
Lads - Joe Cole is a great coup (if he stays fit), we have gotten a couple of young fellas in, and so on - but don't have the wool pulled over your eyes. Purslows shit about wage extensions being part of a transfer budget is absolute bollox. Money is going missing, and has been going missing, for a long time. We're talking £25m or so net since January. The Yanks are laughing as we debate the merits of freebies. Jovanovic and Maxi could work also out as a nice bit of business by Roys predecessor, but note Roy still hasn't got to spend much! We need improvements and cover in a number of areas and we can't keep signing free transfers for that.
Although I agree with almost all of what is being said in the posts above I just don't think that it's Roy that's making the decisions, doing the wheeling & dealing, cutting wage bills etc. I just feel that maybe he's being asked his opinion on certain things but no more. I'm not convinced that he has any say in any final decisions. Now it might have worked out for us so far (eg. Cole) but I'm still not sure if that's how any club should be run. Should a manager be told to play and train the players what he's given by the board?
Mate - I actually agree with you 100%. If you look at other posts from me you'll find I'm very much on the same page!! I have pointed out, through Roys own quotes, that he has not had the final word in who leaves the club (this is very clear, unless Roy is lieing/doesn't want to take responsibility for his actions - both of which I have no doubt are not true given his impeccible character). Elsewhere, he has further admitted to Purslow being heavily involved in talks with existing players. This is not right. Three free transfers and two young lads this calendar year does not sway me to believe anything other than Roy is (so far) only getting a certain amount of a say, and a certain amount to spend. The latter has continued for some time. Hopefully before the transfer window closes this will change? I remain optimistic, if understandably sceptical. There's been a lot of positives lately - and I am delighted to see things finally getting (on the face of it) better, but there's a hell of a lot more that needs to be put right at the club. Purslow and Broughton, no more than the Yanks, are cute whores. We can't be naiive and think that suddenly all is well in the garden. We have to keep our eye on the ball, so to speak - i.e. getting those four tossers out.
Dont think any of the signings so far where Roy's choices ... Shelvey........ already done deal Jovanovic.... already done deal Wilson.... already in the pipeline Joe....... Gerrard /Cara done something positive durning the world cup id even say any players going out where already earmarked to leave before he arrived. Yossi Insua El Zhar ? Degen ? Reira ? etc Will be interesting to see if he just gets on with the job and do the job with what he is given or will he actually pick the players coming in going forward. ?
That is a stupid comment lad. Fair enough Shelvey was a done deal but Im sure if he didn want Cole, Wilson or Jovanovic we wouldn have gone for them. Things have gone very silly around here lately with people panicin over the slightest rumour etc
From his first interview "What have the past 48 hours been like? They have been crazy. I set myself a deadline to make a decision and when I made it I sent a text to Christian Purslow and Steven Gerrard and then turned my phone off. "