Would you give Stan another chance ?

[megager]

Was pondering this.

There is obviously a reaon he was given the job in the first place. AS a player he was level headed, dependable, reliable and at times inspiration. Plus he was delaneys golden boy after saipan.

In an ideal world he could have learned his trade at underage level and worked up through the ranks to senior team management.


Would this be a route he should be offered now. Lets be honest Givens is hopeless. I think they should sack him before he continues destroying the next generatioin of irish footballers and either offer the job to Kerr (proven at nuturing irish talent) or even Stan. Neither could do as bad a job as givens who, to me seems to piss off young palyers.

[marathonman]

I think the only place he would get a job at the minute would be on Apres Match or Gift Grub.:D

[Paul]

I hope Stan proves himself at club level. The abuse he took as Irish manager was a joke. We laugh at the brits but we've become as bad as them with the tabloid garbage now pushed in the media.

[marathonman]

The whole thing should never have been about abusing Stan.All he did was take a job that he had no experience of and no qualifications to do any managerial post let alone the Ireland job.He was at best an apprentice.It was no different to making an apprentice at any profession the boss of company just because say for example he was good with his hands.
The blame should lie at Delaney and his muppets door.The appointment at best was a complete stab in dark and hoping for the best.Management in any job in life is not that easy.They appointed him because he was cheap and would toe the party line.It was an embarrassment for somebody who served club and country so proudly.
Delaney realises his mistake and to make sure nobody comes knocking at his door for his resignation the next time,he passes the buck to somebody else who will get a big fat consultancy fee and will walk away from any flak if things go wrong.
Meanwhile,Delaney and his gob will tell the public it is not his fault.
Stan should never have been in the job but neither should Delaney.Since his appointment, the international game has not exactly been flourishing.
Sacking Stan is like taking the head of a weed.It will grow back the same as before if you don't get the root out as well.

[Pimboli]

Marathonman while I agree to you in some respect nobody twisted Stans arm to take that job. No one came out the 'I'm the gaffer' catchphrase at his first press conference other than Stan and despite not having any experience, qualifications and not having qualified for Euro 2008 etc refused to step down as he was building for the World cup in 2010.

Delaney has a huge portion of the blame to shoulder along with the 3 man panel but Stan put himself in the crosshairs no one else, he should have known the job was beyond him.

[marathonman]

Think about it, he was sweeping the streets and all of a sudden somebody offers him a job beyond anything he could have dreamt of.To manage his country.He might have thought he could do it.He had to have confidence in himself to make it at professional football.A multi million pound once in a lifetime opportunity that he could not turn down.He would have been mad to do so imo.
Why would he step down and lose €2m in the process?

[poorscousertommy]

Think about it, he was sweeping the streets and all of a sudden somebody offers him a job beyond anything he could have dreamt of.To manage his country.He might have thought he could do it.He had to have confidence in himself to make it at professional football.A multi million pound once in a lifetime opportunity that he could not turn down.He would have been mad to do so imo.
Why would he step down and lose €2m in the process?

One would presune he would step down as a point of ethics, Kevin Keegan had the dignity to admit the England job was beyond hin and did the honourable thing and resigned, Staunton stumbled from one disaster to another, using the excuse he was building for the future, in the end the only thing he successfully built was a hole big enough to bury himself in, as for giving him a second chance ? I expected this to be a wind up thread.

[megager]

I feel in some way feel sorry for Stan. Dont get me wrong, I wanted him gone more than anybody else (as you can see from previous posts calling for his head) but that he has to shoulder all the blame is ridiculous. Delaney and his croneys used him as their puppet, appointed Sir Bobby to remove any sense of credibility he had (while he learned his trade) then cast him off as a bad smell, or the head of a weed. Stan should have been given the under 21s to learn his trade away from the glare of negative public opinion, then if he did a job there be promoted. I sort of feel the FAI screwed him in the end....vince McMahon style.

Now they will break the bank to give the job to a has been, a failure in pretty much every respect (for the last 10 years at least anyway), the former rubbish assistant to the inbecile that is Maclaren, Venables.

If you thought Stan was bad, wait til Venables is let at the team.

For me Houllier becuase I think he will do a good job with underage talent (as he did in france, not with us i accept) or Jewell (potential more than proven ability) should get the job. The latter is unlikely (hell take Brum job I think), so Houllier would be my choice.

Some one mentioned Lippi in a prior thread...Carlsberg dont do football fantasies but if they did......