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Danny Ayala

Discussion in 'Transfer Forum' started by Yoko, Jul 6, 2010.

  1. Yoko

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    Was/is a good prospect, however with the amount of CBs at the club and hopefully the emergence of Kelly, he would be 6th choice at best.
     
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    Still there when i click on it
     
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    On a free or sold?
     
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    This is it


    Many have sung the praises of Liverpool youngster Daniel Ayala over the last year. Liverpool’s reserves coach John McMahon stated that he believed he felt the 19 year old Spaniard had the attributes to go all the way and make it to being a first team regular, while Rafa has constantly praised the player last season, starting him in two Premier League matches against Stoke and Burnley, while making substitute appearances in three others, most notably against Tottenham in the first match of last season. With the departure of Rafa Benitez though, it seems that Ayala is no longer wanted on Merseyside.

    I recently did a feature on a few youngsters such as Nathan Eccleston, Dani Pacheco and Daniel Ayala, and questioning whether the new management would show the same faith as Rafa did, but I’d never for one minute thought Ayala would be out the door as quickly as it is becoming apparent. Skysports.com have confirmed that Ayala is set for a season long loan at Spanish second division side Real Valladolid with a view to a permanent move. One of the reason’s attributed by Sky is that Ayala has only a year left on his contract but I am almost certain the Spanish defender signed a three year contract extension back in November; in fact Skysports.com had an article on the 12th November saying as much.

    Some Reds fans who felt Ayala had real potential might very well be annoyed at this news but before you jump down Roy’s throat on this one, it maybe understandable considering what he has already said on the matter. The need for English player’s due to the Premier League quota system is definitely an important factor in all transfer decisions:

    “We have to find a basis of English players because of the way UEFA and Premier League rules are going. We’ve got to get more home-grown players otherwise we’re going to struggle to get our squad numbers together. Kenny Dalglish can play a very, very important role in this. The club has already brought in a couple of players like Jonjo Shelvey and Raheem Sterling. Top English talent. We have finished the World Cup with more players than any other team but looking at the squad at Melwood, it did seem very small in terms of seniors.â€

    Ayala joined the club on 17th September 2007 and the agonizing thing is if he had been bought just a month before he would have qualified as a home grown player under the Premier League’s new rules. Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore outlined the rules as follows:

    “As of next season clubs will be required to have a squad named of up to 25 players, of which no more than 17 can be over the age of 21 and not home grown. The definition of home grown is trained for three years under the age of 21 by somebody in the English and Welsh professional system. Clubs will have to declare their 25 at the end of August when the window shuts and then again at the end of January.â€

    By the end of August, Ayala would have been trained for 2 years and 11 months in the English professional system, and therefore will not be classed as a home grown player. It is understandable that in the 17 non-homegrown players, Hodgson cannot afford to allocate spaces to player’s who are not regular first team players. It was therefore inevitable in some sense that Ayala would have to be loaned out with these new rules in place. The foreign player’s below were all used more times than Ayala last season:

    Pepe Reina, Ryan Babel, Albert Riera, Maxi Rodriguez, Sotirios Kyrgiakos, Martin Skrtel, Daniel Agger, Alberto Aquilani, Lucas Leiva, Javier Mascherano, Fernando Torres, Dirk Kuyt, Diego Cavalieri, David Ngog, Philipp Degen.

    That leaves only two spaces for foreign recruits, and although some of the above will be sold, many of them will be replaced by foreign players once again. There is certainly a case for making Ayala one of the 17 at the end of August, but with Martin Kelly, another equally promising young centre back who is home grown, you can’t blame Roy for wanting to free up space in the 17 for higher quality players in a squad that already lacks depth.
     
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    Not surprised to be honest , loaned out and we will look at him next year as contracted until 2012.

    If we sold a better player in Mikel San José to Bilbao after a 1 year loan deal i can see the same type of loan deal sell on with Ayala.

    Plus him just missing out on the home grown rule.But do think he is more suited to the premier league than Mikel San José .

    Next season after the year we will either sell or take him back , but been away does this effect the homegrown rule ?
     
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    Thought he was a good prospect and aquitted himself well in the premier league game he played.
    Must be the home grown rule why they loaned him out.
     
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    The sause of this story is the people newspaper. I would be very disappointed if it is true.
     
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    If Daniel Ayala isn't going to get games and he is stopping a foreign player coming in i can see the reasoning behind it ....
    Can come back next year and be considered a homegrown player with a proper years experience under his belt .... but gut feeling is the loan deal will be similar to San Jose loan view to a permanent sale with the price already set.
     
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    You could be right Rocco but I actually think this lad is good enough and as we all know our existing CB's are it seems injury prone.
     
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    Definitely thought he was one for the future .... time will tell

    With Cara , Agger , Skrtel , Kyriagkos and Kelly id say Roy thinks he is covered ? unless he has somebody earmarked to come in ....?
     
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    Read a article last night which said if he wasnt going to get games he would love to go back and play in spain again..

    Would be very suprised if he left, as he was a decent centre back and looked like he had alot of potential..I hope if we did sell him we got a buy back clause or we got a decent fee for him..
     
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    Gone to Hull for a year according to the guardian.
     
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    If he plays and we cal recall him if necessary this makes sense
     
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    I can't understand why he's gone for a year if he's only one month short of being
    a home grown player, surely a loan move until January and then re-registered him as home grown, and if we have to sell for whatever reason we'd get a better price as he would be considered English, and English players command inflated prices
     
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    Not sure if it works like that.
     
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    Surly it must if you can name one squad in August and then one in January,
    what's the point in having a transfer window in January if you can't :confused:



    “As of next season clubs will be required to have a squad named of up to 25 players, of which no more than 17 can be over the age of 21 and not home grown. The definition of home grown is trained for three years under the age of 21 by somebody in the English and Welsh professional system. Clubs will have to declare their 25 at the end of August when the window shuts and then again at the end of January.”



    This is what I was going by
     
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    very good move for dani he will play week in week out there and get some valuable expierence
     
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