Aul enda is still the johny ross, Dont really go into politics and not saying the government are not a joke but i must say i would not trust this fella to look after my goldfish,
I'd be similar, not much interest in politics but still like to keep an eye on what's going on. I'm not a fan of FF. They are as much to blame as the banks for the situation we are in at the moment. I'd like to be able to say I'd vote for FG but really, they offer absolutely nothing and I'd have less confidence in them running the show then I would FF. Had they voted out Kenny I would have thought "fresh start for FG". Maybe they'd offer something new but no. And now how can the public really support a divided party. The figures aren't being released which I would assume means a close race. Total mess of a party. Come on Labour, show us what you got cos the alternatives are depressing me!
Golden opportunity for FG has been missed here. We have the worst government in power for as long as anyone can remember and yet their biggest opposition have somehow managed to slip to 3rd in the opinion polls under the stewardship of Enda Kenny. Never voted for FG myself and I certainly won't be in future as I have no confidence in them whatsoever to steer our economy towards better times after seeing the way they've handled this fiasco.
Labour definitely the big winners in this fiasco. Wouldn't be a huge fan of Kenny but Bruton picks the week when there's a confidence vote in Brian Cowen to launch his leadership challenge. Cowen probably would have survived anyway but it would have been nice to see him squirm for a few days. Instead the media focus is on fine gael. What difference would one more week have made to bruton and his cronies. Typical of Irish politics though.
im not a fina gaeler but im delighted he stayed in power i thought what bruton and the rest done was nothing short of disgraceful and sneaky and bad timing more luck to him and i think he will be taoiseac one day
They are all the same, I'm not so sure anyone would be better than the other at getting us throught this S... at the moment. If there was a G E tomorrow I would guess Labour would have a big say in what shape the governement would be like? I for one wouldnt be too fast to advocate FG as they too where quite good at making us pay big time.
I tend to think the opposite, I really feel that if Enda Kenny was thinking of the parties best interests as opposed to his own personal ambitions he would have stepped aside! I think that sentiment is felt by a lot of people too! I can guarantee that no matter how much I feel we need a change in government I would never want to see Enda Kenny in power. I like the Fine Gael party as a whole but just detest the man himself!
I'm amazed Enda survived today .... Regardless of how he's managed it, I gather from the radio news this evening that it was a close enough vote and if true, particularly given a lot of his senior and publicaly well supported colleagues (who were his front benchers), told him they don't have confidence in him, he should have stepped down and let someone else lead. As I see it, Enda just doesn't have the personality to be our nation's leader imho.... Tempted as I am to make a comment here ... I won't mate
labour have to jump off the fence at some stage, they pretty much say nothing when it comes to anything at the min
They way the other 2 big party's are going on they don't need to say much. We need a proper left in this country,even Labour are to much to the right for me.
How can they expect the people to vote for them, when they don't even have a leader they'd vote for. Madness, tey'll probably pull a Cameron/Tories on it somehow manage to turn a majority into a partnership (Lab+LD) and he'll be in power when in reality he should resign for not killing FF (Labour)
Do you really think bruton had the parties best interests at heart by launching his bid for leadership in the week that cowen faced a motion of no confidence?It was basically the most damaging thing anyones done to the party in a long time. The only reasoning I can see behind it,is that it was Kenny who instigated the motion and if cowen was to lose, Kenny would have been given a lot of credit for it and it would have been disastrous for brutons ambitions for power. So if you go by that theory it shows bruton would rather be in charge of a party in turmoil instead of being on the front bench of a party going into an election in a strong position. And I believe fine gael would have been the most popular party in the next election because eventually labour were going to have to put forward some policies. And one way or another that will lose you support in some quarters. To be fair to Kenny ,the blue shirts were in a shit state when he took them over and they've topped a lot of polls in the last year. So there's a lot of T.D,s there now who wouldn't be if it wasn't for him. I think they know this and it was reflected in the vote yesterday. Do I think enda kenny is the man to lead this country?Probably not ,but I'd take him any day over a man like bruton who is so hungry for power he's willing to destroy his own party to get it.
That's a fair point alright, my judgement may have been clouded to my personal distaste for Enda Kenny and the thoughts of him in charge of the country sends shivers down my spine. I don't know much about Richard Bruton but was judging more on the fact that there was so many other front benchers that turned on him so readily. It must be something that has been simmering below the surface for a long time but I agree the timing couldn't have been worse and it does appear to be a last ditch attempt by Bruton to seize power. I still think that Fine Gael would be far more successful in the polls with someone else in charge but Kenny seems hell bent on keeping a hold of the reigns for the time being.
The whole thing was poorly timed but even though he won Kenny should really step aside. If it was as close as we are lead to believe and the fact that over half the front bench publically came out and declared they had no confidence in him he is a lame duck. The dissenters may say they are happy to follow the party line now but if you personally have no confidence in your leader you are not just going to have it again because you were marginally outvoted so its going to be a case that when the next GE comes around FG are going to be led by a man a lot of his own party dont have faith in and public opinion polls show the public dont have faith in so whats the point in staying on?
im duckin for cover as i say this but i like enda kenny ,he s done a great job so far wit fg he s brought from nothin to a position where ff fear them . opinion poll s suggested a while back the public were behind him , i know alot of it was because of the anti ff feelin i think he should be given a shot at the big job . just lookin at cowen drives me mad .
The lack of a credible opposition party to the present government is shocking. fianna fail..and their cronies, have got away with murder.and they cant believe their luck.... at fine gaels timing of a leadership battle.
Fine Gael....? Fine G**ps I think. I myself have no particular allegiance to any party, but it is clear to anyone with a brain in their head that Kenny has rolled his dice and come up short. Bruton deserved a crack at the leadership and could have moulded a new direction and support for the party. Sadly that ship has now sailed.