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glen
25-05-2010, 07:02 AM
FERNANDO Torres is happy to stay at Liverpool next season. That is the opinion of his agent Jose Antonio Peton – and it will be music to the ears of Anfield fans.

It is also a timely boost for under-pressure boss Rafa Benitez. Chelsea, Manchester City, Real Madrid and Barcelona are all believed to be interested in signing the Spanish hitman.


Chelsea and City probably lead the race, with Peton admitting it would be difficult for Torres (left) to move back to Spain.


Peton told Spanish station Punto Radio: “For the moment I can assure fans that Fernando will continue at Liverpool next season.


“Everything is down to Liverpool’s attitude but for the time being Fernando is happy at the club and has a good contract.


“Liverpool have not spoken to us about his future, so he is just concentrating on playing at the World Cup.”

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/136810/Liverpool-star-Fernando-Torres-I-m-not-moving/

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_6171156,00.html

eddie rocket
25-05-2010, 12:13 PM
go wan torres

danperkins
25-05-2010, 12:16 PM
Thanks christ for that, he'll give us one more year and if things don't happen he'll prob be off next year. Delighted at that news, Nando is a legend.

Trevinem
25-05-2010, 12:31 PM
His agent saying that means nothing....we take it with a pinch of salt when they say a player wants to leave so why do we believe when they say hes staying. For all we know that could be his agents way of forcing a much higher bid and salary than is being touted in the papers. When or IF Nando comes out and says it himself i'll believe it. The very fact his agent said "it depends on Liverpools attitude" is leaving the door wide open for offers in my opinion

liverirish
25-05-2010, 12:53 PM
Thats true trevinem but the players are all concentrating on the world cup now. This is going to go on all summer long wntil the transfer window closes in my opinion.

Trevinem
25-05-2010, 12:57 PM
Thats true trevinem but the players are all concentrating on the world cup now. This is going to go on all summer long wntil the transfer window closes in my opinion.[I]I agree with you mate but it takes 2mins to say....Im Staying! It doesnt cause too much disturbances to his preperation......agents are the devil :mad:

travis
16-07-2010, 01:46 PM
Roy Hodgson today declared Fernando Torres is not for sale at any price after positive talks with the striker.

he new Liverpool boss met briefly with Torres before flying out to Switzerland to lead a pre-season training camp.

And today he has warned off potential suitors for the World Cup winner.

"I have met with Fernando. I found him to be a very pleasant man and we had a nice conversation," Hodgson told reporters in Bad Ragaz.

"As far as we are concerned he is a Liverpool player and we want him to remain a Liverpool player. He is not for sale and we don't welcome any offers for him.

"We want to keep him. My conversation with him was only short because I had to leave to come to the training camp in Switzerland. We spoke about football, the World Cup, his injury, and I told him how much I am looking forward to working with him.

"Christian Purslow was also at the meeting and chatted to Fernando for a lot longer after I left but my chat with him was only about football matters."

graham
16-07-2010, 01:57 PM
Two things here.

1) It doesn't say he doesn't want to leave it says he's not for sale

2) If he is happy to say then what have they promised him?

campo
16-07-2010, 02:11 PM
Two things here.

1) It doesn't say he doesn't want to leave it says he's not for sale

2) If he is happy to say then what have they promised him?

No doubt Purlslow had to give him assurances about the ownership issue

gruffalo
16-07-2010, 02:16 PM
If i was Hodgson I wouldn't have left him with Purlslow
He probably tried to sound him out about a transfer to Chelsea :mad:

Flemish Red
16-07-2010, 04:39 PM
"Christian Purslow was also at the meeting and chatted to Fernando for a lot longer after I left but my chat with him was only about football matters."

This can only mean 1 thing: troubles.

trucker
16-07-2010, 04:41 PM
Torres has got a fcukin cheek if you ask me,we finished ahead of Chelsea 14 months ago, they did'nt strenthen and finished 25 points ahead of us, that comes down to the manager and the players. The mancs lost 2 of the best players in the world last summer, did'nt seem to bother there players
. The new Manager is owed a season to prove last season was a blip. Chelsea are an aging team, they wont do much this summer, no team in the top 8 will bar that circus at eastlands. Torres can fcuk off with his whinging he's injured as much as he's fit, if I knew for sure the money would go into the squad I'd sell him.
Gerrard owes us nothing if he wanted to go to Madrid for a couple of years I would'nt begrudge him, Aqualani could play a similar role this season for us.
Mascherano is just a fcukin prick

sean
16-07-2010, 04:52 PM
Torres has got a fcukin cheek if you ask me,we finished ahead of Chelsea 14 months ago, they did'nt strenthen and finished 25 points ahead of us, that comes down to the manager and the players. The mancs lost 2 of the best players in the world last summer, did'nt seem to bother there players
. The new Manager is owed a season to prove last season was a blip. Chelsea are an aging team, they wont do much this summer, no team in the top 8 will bar that circus at eastlands. Torres can fcuk off with his whinging he's injured as much as he's fit, if I knew for sure the money would go into the squad I'd sell him.
Gerrard owes us nothing if he wanted to go to Madrid for a couple of years I would'nt begrudge him, Aqualani could play a similar role this season for us.
Mascherano is just a fcukin prick

Sitting on the fence as always trucker :)

byrnetred
16-07-2010, 05:30 PM
Torres has got a fcukin cheek if you ask me,we finished ahead of Chelsea 14 months ago, they did'nt strenthen and finished 25 points ahead of us, that comes down to the manager and the players. The mancs lost 2 of the best players in the world last summer, did'nt seem to bother there players
. The new Manager is owed a season to prove last season was a blip. Chelsea are an aging team, they wont do much this summer, no team in the top 8 will bar that circus at eastlands. Torres can fcuk off with his whinging he's injured as much as he's fit, if I knew for sure the money would go into the squad I'd sell him.
Gerrard owes us nothing if he wanted to go to Madrid for a couple of years I would'nt begrudge him, Aqualani could play a similar role this season for us.
Mascherano is just a fcukin prick
anything else you want to get of your chest :D

sultana
16-07-2010, 05:41 PM
Torres has got a fcukin cheek if you ask me,we finished ahead of Chelsea 14 months ago, they did'nt strenthen and finished 25 points ahead of us, that comes down to the manager and the players. The mancs lost 2 of the best players in the world last summer, did'nt seem to bother there players
. The new Manager is owed a season to prove last season was a blip. Chelsea are an aging team, they wont do much this summer, no team in the top 8 will bar that circus at eastlands. Torres can fcuk off with his whinging he's injured as much as he's fit, if I knew for sure the money would go into the squad I'd sell him.
Gerrard owes us nothing if he wanted to go to Madrid for a couple of years I would'nt begrudge him, Aqualani could play a similar role this season for us.
Mascherano is just a fcukin prick

Vent away but that's crap. We played way above our level that season. And then we went and sold Alonso who was our player of the season. The team we have on paper is nowhere near good enough. Blip my arse. And Torres did is loyalty stint already. He came to us to win trophies. I wouldnt begrudge him at all if he left...in fact outside of emotional reasons from his point of view it makes no sense to stay. If they want him not to look for a move then why shouldnt he ask when we are going to move forward?

trucker
16-07-2010, 05:56 PM
Vent away but that's crap. We played way above our level that season. And then we went and sold Alonso who was our player of the season. The team we have on paper is nowhere near good enough. Blip my arse. And Torres did is loyalty stint already. He came to us to win trophies. I wouldnt begrudge him at all if he left...in fact outside of emotional reasons from his point of view it makes no sense to stay. If they want him not to look for a move then why shouldnt he ask when we are going to move forward?

The mancs lost the best player in the world and Tevez and dropped 5 points, we lost Alonso and dropped over 20. alonso may have been missed but he was'nt responsible for over 20 points.
Benitez set out at the start of the season with two holding midfielders as Alonso's replacement was'nt fit and when he was he would'nt play him, that comes down to Benitez, he's now gone his negativity and baffling decisions is now gone, theres a new manager and he deserves a chance.
Why do you think on paper were not strong enough, we currently have 4 world class players 3 that are arguably the best in the world in there position, we have 13 players that played at the world cup more than any team in the premier league.
How Many World class players have the mancs got 1 Rooney, how many players do they have at the world cup, how many had they involved in the final.The difference is they have a manager with a winning mentality we had Rafa I must not lose 1st.
Do you think the Mancs Arsenal or Chelsea will spend big this summer, I seriously doubt it especially with the 1st 2. Torres needs to get a grip here he's a player a player who got a 40% payrise last summer, he's under contract for 4 more years,if he does'nt like it hand in a transfer request and refuse to give the new manager a season, similar to an ex striker of ours, and if he does he shall be held in the same contempt by many a Liverpool fan

Badman
16-07-2010, 06:12 PM
The mancs lost the best player in the world and Tevez and dropped 5 points, we lost Alonso and dropped over 20. alonso may have been missed but he was'nt responsible for over 20 points.
Benitez set out at the start of the season with two holding midfielders as Alonso's replacement was'nt fit and when he was he would'nt play him, that comes down to Benitez, he's now gone his negativity and baffling decisions is now gone, theres a new manager and he deserves a chance.
Why do you think on paper were not strong enough, we currently have 4 world class players 3 that are arguably the best in the world in there position, we have 13 players that played at the world cup more than any team in the premier league.
How Many World class players have the mancs got 1 Rooney, how many players do they have at the world cup, how many had they involved in the final.The difference is they have a manager with a winning mentality we had Rafa I must not lose 1st.
Do you think the Mancs Arsenal or Chelsea will spend big this summer, I seriously doubt it especially with the 1st 2. Torres needs to get a grip here he's a player a player who got a 40% payrise last summer, he's under contract for 4 more years,if he does'nt like it hand in a transfer request and refuse to give the new manager a season, similar to an ex striker of ours, and if he does he shall be held in the same contempt by many a Liverpool fan

In a nutshell there - neer knew he gotta 40% payrise, jaysus if i got that i'd be staying too...most people i know got a pay reduction in the last year

graham
16-07-2010, 06:15 PM
I think he's just trying to force the board into spending money to be honest.
I think he hates the yanks just as much as we do and he's challenging them

Alex Raisbeck
16-07-2010, 06:32 PM
I think he's just trying to force the board into spending money to be honest.
I think he hates the yanks just as much as we do and he's challenging them

Nice thought, but I'd say it doesnt really bother him too much in reality.
He is a player who wants to be at the top table, and if we cant give it to him he'll be offski.

vodkacolly
17-07-2010, 06:00 AM
Torres has got a fcukin cheek if you ask me, ....Torres can fcuk off with his whinging

Not being smart here but did I miss something? What whinging?
I know people have been saying he should make a statement of commitment to the club but we all know... in football: words mean nothing.
How many times have we heard a player/manager/chairman say "I'm/he's staying" and a few days later the opposite happens.
Personally I think Torres will stay (at least till next transfer window) as he loves the club but he's not gonna stay on a sinking ship(why should he?)

irishman123
17-07-2010, 08:51 AM
The mancs lost the best player in the world and Tevez and dropped 5 points, we lost Alonso and dropped over 20. alonso may have been missed but he was'nt responsible for over 20 points.
Benitez set out at the start of the season with two holding midfielders as Alonso's replacement was'nt fit and when he was he would'nt play him, that comes down to Benitez, he's now gone his negativity and baffling decisions is now gone, theres a new manager and he deserves a chance.
Why do you think on paper were not strong enough, we currently have 4 world class players 3 that are arguably the best in the world in there position, we have 13 players that played at the world cup more than any team in the premier league.
How Many World class players have the mancs got 1 Rooney, how many players do they have at the world cup, how many had they involved in the final.The difference is they have a manager with a winning mentality we had Rafa I must not lose 1st.
Do you think the Mancs Arsenal or Chelsea will spend big this summer, I seriously doubt it especially with the 1st 2. Torres needs to get a grip here he's a player a player who got a 40% payrise last summer, contract for 4 more years,if he does'nt like it hand in a transfer request ahe's under nd refuse to give the new manager a season, similar to an ex striker of ours, and if he does he shall be held in the same contempt by many a Liverpool fan

he,s under contract make him honour it

Carroll9
17-07-2010, 08:58 AM
he,s under contract make him honour it

I don't think that being under contract means all that much anymore.
If a player wants to leave there is very little the club can do to stop him.

irishman123
17-07-2010, 09:16 AM
I don't think that being under contract means all that much anymore.
If a player wants to leave there is very little the club can do to stop him.

well i dont think asking him does he want to stay is the way to go either why sign a contreat at all then

Carroll9
17-07-2010, 09:27 AM
well i dont think asking him does he want to stay is the way to go either why sign a contreat at all then

Personally I think he will stay and give us 1 more season to see where we're at with new owners,etc.He owes us that much after last seasons injury problems.Only thing that worries me is his secret meeting with Purslow and Broughtons close ties with Chelsea.:mad:

ROCCO
17-07-2010, 10:02 AM
he,s under contract make him honour it

If any player wants to leave , ill pack his bags once we first get the best deal possible and guarantees the money goes back into the squad , either way i wouldn't want any player that's not 100% committed to the cause...

KOPSTAR
17-07-2010, 12:47 PM
If any player wants to leave , ill pack his bags once we first get the best deal possible and guarantees the money goes back into the squad , either way i wouldn't want any player that's not 100% committed to the cause...

+1

bobby benitez
17-07-2010, 01:05 PM
If any player wants to leave , ill pack his bags once we first get the best deal possible and guarantees the money goes back into the squad , either way i wouldn't want any player that's not 100% committed to the cause...

Only 1 player is 100% committed to the cause. Another 1 is 99.9% and the rest are all 100% depending on the circumstances of the day.

4tothefloor
17-07-2010, 01:47 PM
I can't see what the hysteria over Torres is all about, or Gerrard for that matter. Neither player has said anything about leaving. All Torres has said is that it was best for everyone that Benitez left (surprise, surprise) and he also endorsed the appointment of Hodgson. I don't see anything wrong with that and until he actually puts in a transfer request or asks to leave, I don't think he deserves any abuse. Gerrard stated on two occasions pre-World Cup and also dropped a hint during the tournament that he was staying at Anfield, yet he still has to put up with rumours to Madrid. The papers are full of shit and I wouldn't believe one word in any of them, and the fans are worse for paying attention to them. Torres and Gerrard are going nowhere.

Mascherano on the other hand can go fcuk himself. He's been looking for a move every since he got here, it's not just now. He was at it last season as well and also the back end of the season before. He's a mercenary and I hope he's shipped out asap. The only reason we needed Mascherano is because we couldn't keep the ball under Benitez. Ship him out and get someone who can actually keep and pass the ball in instead. If you're not constantly losing the ball you don't need a 'destroyer' to constantly try to win it back. Ask Arsene Wenger and Ferguson. Hopefully Hodgson will change that. Hopefully......

Niall
20-07-2010, 10:43 AM
What's the latest on Fernando Torres? How's his fitness at the moment?

I think it's quite good. I saw him now almost a week ago, last Wednesday. I went to Ibiza and met him, albeit briefly, and we had a little talk there.
He was telling me he didn't think the groin problem was anything to worry about at all and it was something that just a rest on holiday was going to clear up.
We're hoping when he comes back on August 2 he'll be fit and well.

Ron1892
20-07-2010, 10:51 AM
I see his missus is expecting another Baby..Fair play Nando..

travis
20-07-2010, 10:58 AM
I see his missus is expecting another Baby..Fair play Nando..

he also wants his new baby to be speaking scouse so he's staying put :D

RedArmagh
20-07-2010, 11:01 AM
I see his missus is expecting another Baby..Fair play Nando..


no wonder he's picking up these groin strains! :D

KOPSTAR
20-07-2010, 12:08 PM
1 Great signing another great day and more to come

ROCCO
21-07-2010, 09:01 AM
Don't be surprised if Barca come in with a offer very soon .... and been told M.city have offered Torres £250k a week ......

Irishlad
21-07-2010, 09:12 AM
Another injury plagued season & we'll be lucky to get 20m for him. If a stupid offer comes of 50m I'd gladly sell him.

I know I'm probably in the minority on that one though.

Kop On
21-07-2010, 09:31 AM
Another injury plagued season & we'll be lucky to get 20m for him. If a stupid offer comes of 50m I'd gladly sell him.

I know I'm probably in the minority on that one though.

And are you naïve enough to think if we get £50M for Torres that it’ll all be handed to Roy to bolster his squad.

He’ll be lucky to even see 20M of it. The rest will go towards paying off the debt so the yanks will walk away with more when they leave.

Irishlad
21-07-2010, 09:37 AM
Funny that because it's not how it's worked at all so far. We've broke even on transfers if anything.

KOPSTAR
21-07-2010, 11:18 AM
And are you naïve enough to think if we get £50M for Torres that it’ll all be handed to Roy to bolster his squad.

He’ll be lucky to even see 20M of it. The rest will go towards paying off the debt so the yanks will walk away with more when they leave.

spot on even if 20 knowing the w-nks we get NOTHING :mad:

Emlyn
21-07-2010, 11:31 AM
The problem is, if we do sell him who are we going to replace him with, we need someone to score goals and he can do it, it is just the big carrot of money may tempt them into selling, which will be hard to refuse, I just hope they don't just go for the money and then try to replace him, everyone else who would be a good replacement has now been snapped up and would they come to Anfield at the moment with the current money problems anyway

mushypea
21-07-2010, 11:32 AM
Another injury plagued season & we'll be lucky to get 20m for him. If a stupid offer comes of 50m I'd gladly sell him.

I know I'm probably in the minority on that one though.

You certainly are in the minority there because selling your best players if not the best, injured or not would be ludicrous. Torres is an asset to the club thats not worth selling as he generates a huge amount merchandise wise.
If you think 50m is a stupid offer for a player of his class imagine what you would think of a genuine one if he was to be sold. Because i would fully expect the club & manager to laugh at 50m.

Kop On
21-07-2010, 01:13 PM
Funny that because it's not how it's worked at all so far. We've broke even on transfers if anything.

If you honestly believe that then I don't know what to say. :eek:

Niall
22-07-2010, 08:57 AM
Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson is hoping Fernando Torres will commit his future to the club, following Steven Gerrard and Joe Cole in his Anfield plans.

Spanish striker Torres has been the subject of intense speculation this summer, and has been tipped to leave the Reds during the transfer window.

Liverpool had a miserable campaign last term under the stewardship of Rafa Benitez, but the former coach has now moved on to Inter Milan and Hodgson is the man in charge.

He pleased fans with the signing of Joe Cole on a four-year deal on Monday, while captain Steven Gerrard has also come out to confirm he is staying with his boyhood team.

However, Torres, 26, will be a major concern for Liverpool as he has produced some sparkling performances since his move to the club from Atletico Madrid in 2007, although no word has yet to come out of the Spaniard's camp.

Despite strong links to Manchester City, Chelsea and Barcelona, Hodgson hopes he will stay and revealed talks with managing director Christian Purslow are ongoing.

"Christian Purslow has been talking to Fernando Torres for the last two days so I think there has probably been lots of words from Fernando Torres but I haven't actually spoken to him," he told Sky Sports News.

"It was a major day yesterday (Tuesday) with the signing of Joe Cole in tandem with Steven Gerrard committing his future to the club, hopefully that will soon be followed by Fernando Torres and then we can start thinking about the one or two other signings that we would like to bring in to strengthen the squad even more.

Malzheimer
22-07-2010, 02:45 PM
Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson is hoping Fernando Torres will commit his future to the club, following Steven Gerrard and Joe Cole in his Anfield plans.

Spanish striker Torres has been the subject of intense speculation this summer, and has been tipped to leave the Reds during the transfer window.

Liverpool had a miserable campaign last term under the stewardship of Rafa Benitez, but the former coach has now moved on to Inter Milan and Hodgson is the man in charge.

He pleased fans with the signing of Joe Cole on a four-year deal on Monday, while captain Steven Gerrard has also come out to confirm he is staying with his boyhood team.

However, Torres, 26, will be a major concern for Liverpool as he has produced some sparkling performances since his move to the club from Atletico Madrid in 2007, although no word has yet to come out of the Spaniard's camp.

Despite strong links to Manchester City, Chelsea and Barcelona, Hodgson hopes he will stay and revealed talks with managing director Christian Purslow are ongoing.

"Christian Purslow has been talking to Fernando Torres for the last two days so I think there has probably been lots of words from Fernando Torres but I haven't actually spoken to him," he told Sky Sports News.

"It was a major day yesterday (Tuesday) with the signing of Joe Cole in tandem with Steven Gerrard committing his future to the club, hopefully that will soon be followed by Fernando Torres and then we can start thinking about the one or two other signings that we would like to bring in to strengthen the squad even more.

If Purslow can convince Nando to stay (think he wants to anyway) and is responsible for sorting the Cole deal and wrapping up other ins and outs quickly in the last week then maybe he is not the big bad wolf everyone seems to think and is the best chief exec we've had in a while, despite his lack of footballing background?

He still needs to answer the questions that SOS have for him but in recent weeks he seems to have been doing his job as regards transfers very well.

GaryMc
22-07-2010, 03:53 PM
If Purslow can convince Nando to stay (think he wants to anyway) and is responsible for sorting the Cole deal and wrapping up other ins and outs quickly in the last week then maybe he is not the big bad wolf everyone seems to think and is the best chief exec we've had in a while, despite his lack of footballing background?

He still needs to answer the questions that SOS have for him but in recent weeks he seems to have been doing his job as regards transfers very well.

His role was to find investment for the club within a year. He found fck all, then he suddenly starts dropping stories to papers to make Rafa look bad. His spin on transfer spend etc is pure lies. The way Rafa was shipped out also leaves a bad taste in the mouth. If he produces Messi next week he is still a ****

Malzheimer
22-07-2010, 04:14 PM
His role was to find investment for the club within a year. He found fck all, then he suddenly starts dropping stories to papers to make Rafa look bad. His spin on transfer spend etc is pure lies. The way Rafa was shipped out also leaves a bad taste in the mouth. If he produces Messi next week he is still a ****

Yes I know he had an agenda to get rid of Rafa in a sneaky way through Maddock and his other hack contacts which I hated him for and he has failed miserably at finding investment and of course he is going to put a spin on spends etc considering his position and his employers.

However I'm just ponting out its a long while since I've seen things move so quickly in and out of our club and he may be due some small credit for doing this one aspect of the job right. If he wasn't there at the minute it seems we would have nobody to put an arm round Torres or convince Cole ours is the club to be. Not as if he is trying to diminish our chances on the pitch anyway which is reassuring for us considering he was not employed to take charge of transfers in the first place.

Can't believe I'm defending the man who orchestrated Rafa's downfall, my point is I've been happy with our transfer business in the last few weeks and hate him or not that is Purslows responsibility. Still early days yet though for all we know he could be speaking to Torrea regularly one to one convincing him it is the right time for a move and the club and Roy need the money to rebuild :eek:

graham
22-07-2010, 04:20 PM
Why are people so angry Purslow didn't find investment?
We'd be finished if he did

Fantana
22-07-2010, 04:52 PM
Not defending Cecil in anyway in terms of Rafa's exit but Rafa wasn't shy in using his own contacts in the media to wage his wars either, especially when it came to negotiating his new contract. He was a good manager and a great man to the city and people of Liverpool but he was not the innocent shrinking violet that some fans seem to paint him as.

ROCCO
22-07-2010, 05:00 PM
Why are people so angry Purslow didn't find investment?
We'd be finished if he did

True enough , but that's missing the point that he hasn't done the job he was expected to do , so imo should be sacked for that alone.

graham
22-07-2010, 05:08 PM
True enough , but that's missing the point that he hasn't done the job he was expected to do , so imo should be sacked for that alone.

No it's not missing the point.
If he found investment then we'd all be livid with him. And rightly so.
But he didn't and now they've been forced to put the club up for sale which us best for everyone.
His job is to do what's best for the club and not finding investment is absolutely brilliant for us.
I don't agree with everything he's done but with regards to this so called failure finding investment I think is wrong.

Beanokelly
22-07-2010, 09:57 PM
Well said lint I totally agree with you if cecil had found investment the yanks wouldn't have to sell up

Kop On
22-07-2010, 10:16 PM
"Christian Purslow has been talking to Fernando Torres for the last two days so I think there has probably been lots of words from Fernando Torres but I haven't actually spoken to him," he told Sky Sports News.


This really worried me when I read it yesterday. The fact Purslow had been talking to Nando for 2 days doesn't sound positive. There is obviously alot of convincing to be done. Surely if Nando wanted to stay it would have been a much more straight forward and shorter conversation?

I really hope I'm wrong but have a bad feeling about this one.


Why are people so angry Purslow didn't find investment?
We'd be finished if he did

Fully agree mate, If we'd have found partial investment then we'd be rightly screwed as it probably would have meant Hicks and Gillet could have afforded to retain a fairly large portion of ownership and would be going nowhere.

Fran74
22-07-2010, 10:23 PM
No it's not missing the point.
If he found investment then we'd all be livid with him. And rightly so.
But he didn't and now they've been forced to put the club up for sale which us best for everyone.
His job is to do what's best for the club and not finding investment is absolutely brilliant for us.
I don't agree with everything he's done but with regards to this so called failure finding investment I think is wrong.

I have to agree totally with what you say. If Purslow had found that £100 investment the Yanks wouldn't have had to sell and could have been around for years. He did us a favour I reckon. The transfer dealings seem to be getting sorted out quicker than ever. If Torres stays then I reckon Purslow deserves some congratulations and a lot less hatred. Time will tell ......

ROCCO
23-07-2010, 07:44 AM
No it's not missing the point.
If he found investment then we'd all be livid with him. And rightly so.
But he didn't and now they've been forced to put the club up for sale which us best for everyone.
His job is to do what's best for the club and not finding investment is absolutely brilliant for us.
I don't agree with everything he's done but with regards to this so called failure finding investment I think is wrong.

Still think your missing the point , People aren't angry he didn't get the £100m investment ...

Seems imo he was behind Rafa getting the Sack for not doing his job and under the same set of rules Cecil should have lost his job imo.

Yes im delighted he hasn't found the investment of £100m as it would have meant the yanks staying longer , but still no guarantees they wont be here in 2 yeas time.


How can somebody who has totally failed in is job be still here and seems to be the driving force in all our transfer dealings with totally no experience in a job that should be driven by the Manager.

Liverpool-law
23-07-2010, 09:13 AM
This really worried me when I read it yesterday. The fact Purslow had been talking to Nando for 2 days doesn't sound positive. There is obviously alot of convincing to be done. Surely if Nando wanted to stay it would have been a much more straight forward and shorter conversation?

I really hope I'm wrong but have a bad feeling about this one.


If Torres really wants to go it's better to let him go. I'm surprised to be honest, I thought of Gerrard and Torres as a pair, if one left the other would jump but I thought if one said he was staying the other would follow suit. If he does go, I would be worried about getting money for two decent strikers as replacements though.

campo
23-07-2010, 09:55 AM
If Torres really wants to go it's better to let him go. I'm surprised to be honest, I thought of Gerrard and Torres as a pair, if one left the other would jump but I thought if one said he was staying the other would follow suit. If he does go, I would be worried about getting money for two decent strikers as replacements though.

Im pretty sure he will stay I reckon he just wants to be kept informed on the owenership issue , Hopefully Cecil is giving him good news

dave78
23-07-2010, 10:08 AM
Still think your missing the point , People aren't angry he didn't get the £100m investment ...

Seems imo he was behind Rafa getting the Sack for not doing his job and under the same set of rules Cecil should have lost his job imo.

Yes im delighted he hasn't found the investment of £100m as it would have meant the yanks staying longer , but still no guarantees they wont be here in 2 yeas time.


How can somebody who has totally failed in is job be still here and seems to be the driving force in all our transfer dealings with totally no experience in a job that should be driven by the Manager.

Did he not bring 100 million to the table that the yanks turned down?? A hedge fund isn't the best place to get investment from but he had the money..

As for being the driving force in the transfer dealing i'd be pretty sure that the manager has identified the targets and he does the negotiations just like David Dein did at Arsenal and David Gill does at utd..

graham
23-07-2010, 10:29 AM
Still think your missing the point , People aren't angry he didn't get the £100m investment ...

Seems imo he was behind Rafa getting the Sack for not doing his job and under the same set of rules Cecil should have lost his job imo.

Yes im delighted he hasn't found the investment of £100m as it would have meant the yanks staying longer , but still no guarantees they wont be here in 2 yeas time.


How can somebody who has totally failed in is job be still here and seems to be the driving force in all our transfer dealings with totally no experience in a job that should be driven by the Manager.

The way I see it is that Purslow was brought in by the banks and not the owners. That's the impression I got at the time he was hired.

If you get your wish and he gets sacked, that would give the yanks a good argument to put to the banks that this guy hasn't done the job and now it's time they brought in their own man.
In which case there's a strong chance we'll get some American businessman running the club that's way worse than Purslow

travis
24-07-2010, 07:18 PM
It's getting worrying now, WTF is going on, some ITK on RAWK says he loves Liverpool and he wants to stay, I think they want to sell him :mad:

Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson says he remains in the dark as to whether Fernando Torres will commit his future to the club.

Hodgson has been waiting to hear from the Spanish striker, who has been widely tipped to depart Anfield over the summer following their disappointing seventh-placed finish in the Premier League last season and off-the-field turbulence.

Torres is resting after helping Spain to their first ever World Cup crown but is in discussions with managing director Christian Purslow in a bid to sort out his future.

But Hodgson says he has not received any updates from Purslow and refused to speculate on the outcome of talks, which he hopes will see the 26-year-old remain at the club.

When asked if he had any updates on the situation, Hodgson told Sky Sports News: ""No, but Christian might be able to if you got hold of him. I haven't spoken to him for the last two days he's been travelling back from Spain where he's been on holiday.

"His holiday has also been taken up a lot of time by discussions with Fernando and his people, so I'm afraid the only person who can give you the type of details you require is Christian.

"It would be wrong of me to say too much."

Hodgson is hoping Torres follows the lead of captain Steven Gerrard, who publicly pledged his commitment to Liverpool after speculation over his future circulated.

Torres was the spearhead of the Reds' attack last season and his departure would land Hodgson a hefty blow as he attempts to reverse the club's decline.

Joe Cole's signing has raised hopes of a revival but Hodgson is waiting on Torres to emulate team-mate Gerrard and voice his desire to remain under his stewardship.

"That's what I'm hoping for, yeah," added Hodgson, referring to a public statement akin to Gerrard's.

Looking forward

"I made it clear from my point of view I'm really looking forward to working with him and I believe he's a key, key figure at the club.

"I obviously want him to be a part of the team we're trying to build here and I can only hope he'll buy into what the club is offering him.

"I don't think there are any worries with him in terms of me personally or what we're doing. I think the concerns go back once again to the time before I came to the club."

honald_tdb
24-07-2010, 07:26 PM
Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson says he remains in the dark as to whether Fernando Torres will commit his future to the club.


At least Woy is in the same boat as us :(

up the pool
24-07-2010, 07:30 PM
its about fcukin time both nando and masch come out and say wether they are staying or going im sick of this pr**kassing around lads you either want to stay or fcukoff simple as:mad:

JMurray#8
24-07-2010, 07:39 PM
I think after getting the world cup winners medal he's thinking to himself how many more winners medals can he get at Liverpool... Hope he realises the answer is loads if he stays and helps spearhead the team towards them!!!

F@ces
24-07-2010, 07:40 PM
And more quotes. Followed by more. And more again. Seriously - does it take Hodgson calling Purslow an interfering you know what before people start to learn he is far from in full control? One of the club's marquee players and the clubs manager doesn't know what's happening with him? :confused:

Torres has raised the issue of a lack of investment, and a couple of young lads and a few free transfers is all we have seen so far. In that respect he has a right to be worried.

New owners, and then the sooner Purslow is gotten out of our club, the sooner our manager can get on with doing his job. There are far too many comments from Roy like this to not be very very concerned.

Fantana
24-07-2010, 07:46 PM
Take everything Roy says with a large pinch of salt. He knows far more than he is letting on. Do you really think that Roy wouldn't be able to get hold of Purslow for 2 days after talks with probably the most important player at the club? Nonsense it doesn't work like that. If they are having trouble convincing Nando to stay they would be in touch hourly. He said the same about JC that he knew nothing about it but then it emerged that he had extensive talks with him. I don't know whether it's a good or bad sign but you can be sure that Roy knows exactly what's happening

F@ces
24-07-2010, 08:00 PM
Take everything Roy says with a large pinch of salt. He knows far more than he is letting on. Do you really think that Roy wouldn't be able to get hold of Purslow for 2 days after talks with probably the most important player at the club? Nonsense it doesn't work like that. If they are having trouble convincing Nando to stay they would be in touch hourly. He said the same about JC that he knew nothing about it but then it emerged that he had extensive talks with him. I don't know whether it's a good or bad sign but you can be sure that Roy knows exactly what's happening

Completely disagree. The only thing we can be sure of is that which is based on the words of the manager of Liverpool Football Club, not assuming some hidden meaning in his words. If you take every single thing he has said so far they are the words of a man who has distinctly stated that he is lacking control of certain situations at the club and/or the knowledge on certain things - which lies with Christian Purslow, who is also exclusively making most of the aforementioned decisions. Obviously Roy isn't lieing to the fans, other than that I fail to see what game he could be playing. Hence, I will take the man for his word, unless it is proven otherwise.

Fantana
24-07-2010, 08:35 PM
Completely disagree. The only thing we can be sure of is that which is based on the words of the manager of Liverpool Football Club, not assuming some hidden meaning in his words. If you take every single thing he has said so far they are the words of a man who has distinctly stated that he is lacking control of certain situations at the club and/or the knowledge on certain things - which lies with Christian Purslow, who is also exclusively making most of the aforementioned decisions. Obviously Roy isn't lieing to the fans, other than that I fail to see what game he could be playing. Hence, I will take the man for his word, unless it is proven otherwise.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Roy has absolute power over all areas and we would be foolish to believe that. I'm just saying he knows more than he is letting on and it's a handy get out clause when in an interview to deflect attention to purslow untill everything has been 100% decided. It's something I'm sure Purslow is happy enough about too as it raises his profile and if the talks are successful he thinks he comes out looking like a hero. It's not a criticism of Roy in any way, traditionally British managers plead ignorance on matters going on in their clubs untill issues are sorted. Unfortunately in this age this leads to people drawing their own conclusions, be they right or wrong

F@ces
24-07-2010, 09:06 PM
....Unfortunately in this age this leads to people drawing their own conclusions, be they right or wrong

Or perhaps drawing the right conclusions..... ;)

Fantana
24-07-2010, 09:29 PM
Or perhaps drawing the right conclusions..... ;)

Or the wrong one, I mentioned both! :)
in fairness I've only based my assessment on his comments prior to signing Cole and also prior to being appointed manager. His attitude seems to be keep everything in house untill all elements are signed and sealed. If that is the case I welcome it because it was the classic Liverpool way of conducting business.

stevieg05
24-07-2010, 09:31 PM
Id have to agree with faces, i like Roy, he comes across as a good honest guy, no bullsh1t, a bit like harry redknapp, in that when he is asked about players possibly coming and leaving he tells it like it is. From the interviews iv seen with roy he doesnt seem to know whats goin on at all. He is just concentrating on coaching the players that are there at the moment. He obviously hasnt had any input into any of the transfers we have brought in or sold. Purslow is running the show at the moment. There is no doubt in my mind about that. Id be very very surprised if torres leaves, iv even lumped on him stayin on paddypower :D

F@ces
24-07-2010, 10:07 PM
Or the wrong one, I mentioned both! :)
in fairness I've only based my assessment on his comments prior to signing Cole and also prior to being appointed manager. His attitude seems to be keep everything in house untill all elements are signed and sealed. If that is the case I welcome it because it was the classic Liverpool way of conducting business.

This is not The Liverpool Way of doing things. If it was, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Fantana
24-07-2010, 10:18 PM
This is not The Liverpool Way of doing things. If it was, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Of course you know I'm just referring to Hodgsons actions and not of anyone else involved in the club.

Anfield Old Boys
25-07-2010, 07:04 AM
http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/sport/hodgson-torres-has-beef-with-club-2271976.html


Sunday July 25 2010

Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson admits he is running out of options in his bid to keep Fernando Torres at Anfield.

The new Reds boss, who briefly met with the Spain international for the first time last week, insists Torres' apparent reluctance to commit himself to another season with Liverpool pre-dates his time at the club.

"Unfortunately, I cannot do much more," Hodgson admitted in quotes reported by the S***** S*** rag. "His beef is with the club and not me."

He added: "Fernando's situation has nothing to do with me, he made that perfectly clear over the phone during the World Cup and when I met him face-to-face.

"He knows what I would like to do with the club. He knows how much I value him.

"But his issues are with what has gone on in the past rather than the future.

"If he has problems with the club for things in the past, it is difficult for me to dismiss that."

Press Association

Monty
25-07-2010, 07:48 AM
That doesn't sound great.

Alex Raisbeck
25-07-2010, 08:14 AM
Make him stay.
He is under contract, simple as.

Monty
25-07-2010, 08:18 AM
Make him stay.
He is under contract, simple as.

Yeah, but at Liverpool we should only have players that want to be there.

Alex Raisbeck
25-07-2010, 08:27 AM
Yeah, but at Liverpool we should only have players that want to be there.

True,and thats something I actually have a firm belief in.
However we are at such a crossroads in our history that maybe we need to look at a change in policy and sometimes they need some persuasion.
Ferguson has managed to keep very unhappy players e.g. Ronaldo 2 years in a row.
My biggest fear would be that Torres walked say next week, and 3 months later new owners are in.

redabbey
25-07-2010, 08:39 AM
No newspaper story with a mention of the Sunday Scum paper should ever be taken seriously.

Monty
25-07-2010, 08:42 AM
Roy was on sky saying it.

Alex Raisbeck
25-07-2010, 08:43 AM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=810119&sec=transfers&cc=5739

redabbey
25-07-2010, 08:49 AM
The above story is a S***** S*** rubbish story.

Unless I am very much mistaken Roy has been in Austria/Switzerland & Germany in the last couple of weeks. But miraculously FT flew to have a meeting with him in the last week. Strange that every other paper missed this story.

It is also very strange to me that no other newspaper reporter heard that quote from Roy.

BTW Online I found another report in a follow up to the above story saying that Forlan is on the way in to replace FT.

redabbey
25-07-2010, 08:51 AM
Roy was on sky saying it.

I did not know that have SSN on now.

redabbey
25-07-2010, 09:10 AM
OK played the clip off the Sky website as did not hear this before. The 'beef with the club' quote was not in that interview and as I said I can't find that quote reported anywhere else.

ROCCO
25-07-2010, 09:16 AM
OK played the clip off the Sky website as did not hear this before. The 'beef with the club' quote was not in that interview and as I said I can't find that quote reported anywhere else.
[quote ]
They took the quotes from an interview he did after yesterday's game.
[quote ]
Switched on SSN (forgive me father) and some journalist was going through the papers and was talking about the story in the NOTW and said he didn't speak to them but they picked it up from an interview after the game.

Alex Raisbeck
25-07-2010, 09:16 AM
Hodgson talks to a group of assembled journalists, one happens to be from one of the papers not mentioned on Merseyside.
Another news agency runs with the story
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...nsfers&cc=5739

without any reference to a rag.


Can we link/talk about it?
Well of course we can, just cos they have the same story does not make every other story incorrect.

ROCCO
25-07-2010, 09:24 AM
Mate of mine , who usually gets spot on information but not a ITK , told me Torres was offered 250k from M.City but doesn't want to go there but if Barca get the deal together he will find it hard to turn down ...

bobby benitez
25-07-2010, 11:39 AM
Yeah, but at Liverpool we should only have players that want to be there.

But the problem is he wants to stay. He has said repeatedly ( and I believe him 100%) that he loves the city and the fans and wants to win trophies here. Money dosent seem a priority either. According to Roy he respects him and has no problem with him.

This leaves only 1 possibilty.He has obvisously been feed the same shit as us (100m investment on the way, new owner by christmas,easter,end of season, start of season etc) and he is too clever to fall for that shit. IMO Torres is waiting for action rather than promises and will stay if money is made available to buy good players.

If he leaves blame will lay 100% at the doors of cancer and aids.

F@ces
25-07-2010, 11:48 AM
Bobby - nail, hammer, head.

redabbey
25-07-2010, 11:51 AM
beat me too it Frank. 100% spot on.

ROCCO
25-07-2010, 12:02 PM
But the problem is he wants to stay. He has said repeatedly ( and I believe him 100%) that he loves the city and the fans and wants to win trophies here. Money dosent seem a priority either. According to Roy he respects him and has no problem with him.

This leaves only 1 possibilty.He has obvisously been feed the same shit as us (100m investment on the way, new owner by christmas,easter,end of season, start of season etc) and he is too clever to fall for that shit. IMO Torres is waiting for action rather than promises and will stay if money is made available to buy good players.

If he leaves blame will lay 100% at the doors of cancer and aids.

Problem is Torres is playing into the yanks hands , ive worked out we have brought in around £22m+ profit in 2010 and with a 2 players out and 1 in ratio we must be also saving a packet in wages , at least enough to cover any signing on fees and the promised substantial transfer fees from Hicks even if only £15m {wont hold my breath}.
Plus the TV revenue has increased this year from sky ..

If they wont spend know to keep Torres they never will imo .More than likely they will love Torres to hand in a transfer request to take the blame off themselves and save any loyalty bonus as well .

Emlyn
25-07-2010, 02:24 PM
I think this will be a case of show me the money, until a firm offer is made on the table no one really knows what is going to happen, I would love to think that he will stay which will at least keep us competetive for the next season but if a big enough sum of money is put on the table I think they will struggle to turn it down, they would love the transfer request but I think a large amount of cash would also do it, think of the profits then, the yanks would be jumping with glee, problem then is that it will be harder to get rid of them and you can garentee the money would not all be made available for new transfers.

vodkacolly
25-07-2010, 02:46 PM
If he decides to stay another year, he may end up regretting it and leaving next sumer. But I think if he leaves now he'll regret it even more.

travis
25-07-2010, 03:34 PM
It's starting now , rumours who is going to replace him, Forlan , Crouch , club testing the water, Chelsea bid accepted £63m , Drogba rumoured to be joining City last week to make room for Torres ??
He needs to make a statement soon.

JFT96YNWA
25-07-2010, 03:36 PM
It's starting now , rumours who is going to replace him, Forlan , Crouch , club testing the water, Chelsea bid accepted £63m , Drogba rumoured to be joining City last week to make room for Torres ??
He needs to make a statement soon.

Source ?

travis
25-07-2010, 03:38 PM
Source ?

There is no source mate, It's just rumours that I'm picking up from about 6 different forums , I don't like all this uncertainty so I hope a clear statement will come out this week.

JFT96YNWA
25-07-2010, 03:42 PM
There is no source mate, It's just rumours that I'm picking up from about 6 different forums , I don't like all this uncertainty so I hope a clear statement will come out this week.

You & me both , all this uncertainty is doing my fkin head in :mad:

up the pool
25-07-2010, 03:46 PM
whatever happens he will lose alot of credability over this and my own admiration for him has droped because of all this carry on so much for"his armband said he was a red" s**t:mad:

Irishlad
25-07-2010, 04:16 PM
whatever happens he will lose alot of credability over this and my own admiration for him has droped because of all this carry on so much for"his armband said he was a red" s**t:mad:

Calm down lad. For starters the armband was never to do with LFC anyway. It actually said We will never walk alone, and was do with a group of his friends.

Even local lad Gerrard has thought of leaving before & even came very close twice.

I don't see why you expect 100% loyalty from any footballer these days because it just doesn't happen.

LFC Lad
25-07-2010, 04:53 PM
Even local lad Gerrard has thought of leaving before & even came very close twice.

Not sure about the first time, but the second, Gerrard only requested a move so that they'd hurry up and give him a new deal. He was linked to Chelsea, but I don't think he was close to signing for them or anyone else.

It would be good if Nando would tell us, the fans, whether he intends to stay or not. There's no excuses left now, the World Cup is over.

I just hope he comes out and says that he wants to stay. It would be an absolute nightmare if he left, and an even bigger nightmare if he left for Chelsea. That idiotic bluenose who is our chairman, he's not to be trusted one bit.

SUPERFAN
25-07-2010, 05:39 PM
I've thought all along that he'll stay and still do,there's obviously little or no money for new signings but there will be if tommy leaves.
I'd say nando's just playing a waiting game and keeping purse-low sweating.tommy is due back a week before nando is,if nando was to say now that he's defo staying the cnuts could sell tommy and pocket all the money so I don't blame him keeping schtum.
I'd be keeping a closer eye on tommy's situation this week to be honest.when is he due back anyway,I thought it was tomorrow..

Alex Raisbeck
25-07-2010, 05:44 PM
I wouldnt be a whole lot surprised if Mascherano didnt report back.
I hope I will be proved wrong.

travis
25-07-2010, 05:45 PM
I've thought all along that he'll stay and still do,there's obviously little or no money for new signings but there will be if tommy leaves.
I'd say nando's just playing a waiting game and keeping purse-low sweating.tommy is due back a week before nando is,if nando was to say now that he's defo staying the cnuts could sell tommy and pocket all the money so I don't blame him keeping schtum.
I'd be keeping a closer eye on tommy's situation this week to be honest.when is he due back anyway,I thought it was tomorrow..

He is supposedly back today with his agent..

wertyu
25-07-2010, 05:46 PM
I've thought all along that he'll stay and still do,there's obviously little or no money for new signings but there will be if tommy leaves.
I'd say nando's just playing a waiting game and keeping purse-low sweating.tommy is due back a week before nando is,if nando was to say now that he's defo staying the cnuts could sell tommy and pocket all the money so I don't blame him keeping schtum.
I'd be keeping a closer eye on tommy's situation this week to be honest.when is he due back anyway,I thought it was tomorrow..

Bang on there Willie, I taught the same Nando's not stupid and I can't see him sayin much until the little general's situation is sorted 1st.

RedPaddy
25-07-2010, 07:17 PM
whatever happens he will lose alot of credability over this and my own admiration for him has droped because of all this carry on so much for"his armband said he was a red" s**t:mad:

spot on there, my sentiments exactly:mad:

Malzheimer
25-07-2010, 07:39 PM
We really do have some fans who can be very fickle with short memories, no need to panic yet or turn on the player. Torres has said nothing either way, he is on HOLIDAY. Let it be, until a statement comes out, leave it to the rags to speculate and Roy should keep quiet to the media about it all too until he knows more imo.

SUPERFAN
25-07-2010, 08:13 PM
whatever happens he will lose alot of credability over this and my own admiration for him has droped because of all this carry on so much for"his armband said he was a red" s**t:mad:
If what I reckon he is doing turns out to be true he will only go up further in my estimation if that's possible..

BretHart
25-07-2010, 09:33 PM
If what I reckon he is doing turns out to be true he will only go up further in my estimation if that's possible..

Agreed, I believe he is doing this for all the right reasons, if the club promised before to give money and then they broke those promises then he has a right to bring up these issues with the club.

fermoyred80
26-07-2010, 12:17 AM
I'd be keeping a closer eye on tommy's situation this week to be honest.when is he due back anyway,I thought it was tomorrow..

He is supposedly back today with his agent..

Thought I read its the 5th of Aug

loppy
26-07-2010, 01:25 AM
tbh i think torres will stay. I think he has the clubs best interests at heart. Would love a statement from him to kill all the speculation cos at the min thats all it is. Can't ever see him playing for another english club thou. Come on fernando let us know what's happening.

CrazyDaize
26-07-2010, 01:38 AM
We really do have some fans who can be very fickle with short memories, no need to panic yet or turn on the player. Torres has said nothing either way, he is on HOLIDAY. Let it be, until a statement comes out, leave it to the rags to speculate and Roy should keep quiet to the media about it all too until he knows more imo.

Well said, and I have to agree.

Although there's no smoke without fire, and this story is about to dominate the news over the next day or two so there will be no getting away from it.

Obviously I want him to stay more than anything but if he choses to go then I hope it's done and dusted in a quick and simple statement. Likewise with Masch.

I hate transfer sagas.....

James
26-07-2010, 06:04 AM
I don't believe Torres is doing himself an favors here. It would be great to think that he is trying to get one over on the clowns running the club by making them sweat, but the way I see it is that the fans have never stopped idolizing him over his last two injury plagued seasons. We never even had a gripe with him when he put in way too many half arsed moody performances last season whist earning a nice six figure weekly wage. He received broken promises and I sympathize with him but he needs to get over it.
At the very least he owes the fans loyalty and if he shows it and puts in the effort nobody will grudge him a move in January or next summer if things don't change. If, however, he decides to call it quits then in my eyes hes no different to any other mercenary out there and the likes of City are welcome to him.

I really hope he stays but I have to admit that I am not too impressed with the way he is going about things. We are all frustrated but the boss is trying to get the old team spirit back into the squad and it will only take one or two players to mess things up. Those one or two players have no place at the club unless they get on board quickly.

Gray72
26-07-2010, 09:25 AM
Folks there is no smoke without fire. Man City are circling like vultures and appear to be ready to launch a £50m-£70m transfer bid for Torres. It is really worrying time because if he goes we are deep in the brown stuff!

From our pre season so far it is evident that we don't have another striker to depend on. There have been a few impressive performances from Amoo, Ecclestone and Della Valle. But Ngog looks like he has done nothing to improve his game with his finishing still looking wayward and his hold up play suspect. ah well it is only pre season but we can't afford to be slow to start with Europe on thursday night!

It isn't as if we have another striker who hasn't returned to full training from the world cup, torres is it! He could do us all a favour and commit to LFC and put an end to this speculation once and for all. It does really affect the team morale and potentially performances with the unrest.

For the last 3 years we have gone into the new season with unrest whether it be with the board or unsettling transfer rumours. Torres didn't really give us much from the turn of the year having suffered from injuries so wouldn't it be nice for him to say I owe them!

As it stands we have problems at left back and really really need to strengthen up front. I see no realistic targets from those circling in the press and fear we will have to depend on Babel, Ngog and Jovanovic for getting our goals.

Come on Torres pin your colours to the mast and commit!!!!!

babbsnads
26-07-2010, 09:34 AM
Obviously I'd be gutted if he left but it's important that it's sorted out one way or another in the next couple of days. Then at least Roy will have time to get some more players in. I think if he leaves and the money is not re-invested in the squad then I think there's no way back for us. It would be the final straw for Gerard and you couldn't blame him. Cole with be totally disillusioned because I'm sure he was made plenty of promises and morale would be at an all time low.

On the other hand if the money was re-invested in the right way then I think we'd actually be better off. More strenght in depth and no over reliance on one player to get goals. We'd all rather keep nando because when he's fit it's gauranteed goals and that's hard to buy. But whatever happens i'd definitely like to see another striker come in.

kingofthekop
26-07-2010, 10:23 AM
Carra hit the nail on the head. No One is bigger than the club. If he stays... Great. If he goes we'll survive. We dont have other strikers. Thats evident. We dont have the cash to buy another quality striker. Also evident. But i Dont see what all the worry is about. Weigh it up. on one hand he is one of the best strikers in the world and on his day can crucify teams. On the other he is completely injury prone ( as are all players with his turn of pace ). If City offer 50m then id take it. Providing we can use the money to bring in players, that money could be used to bring in 2 quality strikers and the left back we need.

Otherwise I think if Torres stays we wont see the best of him until at least xmas. And thats too late. And thats providing he doesnt pick up another injury or two along the way. Id rather hedge my bets, cut my losses and offload him now and replace him with 2 quality strikers.

Roll on the slating of me for being honest!! :rolleyes:

G&H_OUT
26-07-2010, 10:30 AM
Carra hit the nail on the head. No One is bigger than the club. If he stays... Great. If he goes we'll survive. We dont have other strikers. Thats evident. We dont have the cash to buy another quality striker. Also evident. But i Dont see what all the worry is about. Weigh it up. on one hand he is one of the best strikers in the world and on his day can crucify teams. On the other he is completely injury prone ( as are all players with his turn of pace ). If City offer 50m then id take it. Providing we can use the money to bring in players, that money could be used to bring in 2 quality strikers and the left back we need.

Otherwise I think if Torres stays we wont see the best of him until at least xmas. And thats too late. And thats providing he doesnt pick up another injury or two along the way. Id rather hedge my bets, cut my losses and offload him now and replace him with 2 quality strikers.
Roll on the slating of me for being honest!! :rolleyes:

beginning to agree with you , he's doing the club no favours at the min with his silence , i reckon he's gonna be another darren anderton ( sick note ) on treatment table more than the pitch , he needs to show loyalty or f**k off

Rover 609
26-07-2010, 11:31 AM
Looks like he's gone to Man City.Just heard he's sold,gone for 60m and its 100% done deal.Hope to **** its bullshit.

travis
26-07-2010, 11:33 AM
Looks like he's gone to Man City.Just heard he's soldgone for 60m and its 100% done deal.Hope to **** its bullshit.

Stop that now will ya

Rover 609
26-07-2010, 11:34 AM
Stop that now will ya

I wouldnt stick it up here if i didnt believe it,no reason to doubt the bloke who's told me,like i said hope to **** its wrong.

kdevitt
26-07-2010, 11:36 AM
City have just signed Ballotelli from Inter (on SSN) - sounds to me like Mancini was playing hardball with Inter by bring Torres into the equation. Hope so anyway!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-26/manchester-city-agrees-on-terms-with-mario-balotelli-soccer-roundup.html

Andrew
26-07-2010, 11:37 AM
This is starting to irritate me. What has he done that he deserves this attitude from people??

He's on holiday. A well deserved one, he hasn't had a break for 2/3 years now. The last images we saw of him were him holding the WC with a Liverpool scarf on him. He's done nothing to indicate that he intends on leaving.

As for the long chats with Hodgson and Purslow; that's great, he wants to stay clued in to what is happening at the club. I fully believe he has the clubs best interests at heart and wants the best for the future of Liverpool FC.

OK, a statement would be nice to settle all this but imo, he doesn't need to. It's just the papers and random quotes from managers saying how much they'd like Torres in their team that is causing the fuss. No shit they'd like him in their team, he's one of the best strikers in the world and he's ours.

He's on holiday, give him a break and wait till he gets back to Liverpool. Don't buy into the media speculation.

mushypea
26-07-2010, 11:39 AM
This is starting to irritate me. What has he done that he deserves this attitude from people??

He's on holiday. A well deserved one, he hasn't had a break for 2/3 years now. The last images we saw of him were him holding the WC with a Liverpool scarf on him. He's done nothing to indicate that he intends on leaving.

As for the long chats with Hodgson and Purslow; that's great, he wants to stay clued in to what is happening at the club. I fully believe he has the clubs best interests at heart and wants the best for the future of Liverpool FC.

OK, a statement would be nice to settle all this but imo, he doesn't need to. It's just the papers and random quotes from managers saying how much they'd like Torres in their team that is causing the fuss. No shit they'd like him in their team, he's one of the best strikers in the world and he's ours.

He's on holiday, give him a break and wait till he gets back to Liverpool. Don't buy into the media speculation.

Well said. My sentiments exactly.

GaryMc
26-07-2010, 11:42 AM
I wouldnt stick it up here if i didnt believe it,no reason to doubt the bloke who's told me,like i said hope to **** its wrong.

The way I look at it is that no one player is bigger than the team, however Torres leaving for City would be some kick in the teeth, greater more so than when it looked like Stevie was off to Chelsea. If it were someone outside the Premiership, it would not be so bad, but to them would be the final sign (If indeed its needed) that we are further away from the elite of the game than any time since 60s.

Rover 609
26-07-2010, 11:44 AM
The way I look at it is that no one player is bigger than the team, however Torres leaving for City would be some kick in the teeth, greater more so than when it looked like Stevie was off to Chelsea. If it were someone outside the Premiership, it would not be so bad, but to them would be the final sign (If indeed its needed) that we are further away from the elite of the game than any time since 60s.

I agree no player is bigger than the club but if this is confirmed i'll be ****ing heartbroken.

travis
26-07-2010, 11:45 AM
I cannot see him signing for Citeh no fcuking way, Also isn't it funny when you look up the propaganda rumours page on the official that they don't stick up any rumours of Torres going somewhere like they do with the rest of the players.

Niall
26-07-2010, 11:48 AM
City have just signed Ballotelli from Inter (on SSN) - sounds to me like Mancini was playing hardball with Inter by bring Torres into the equation. Hope so anyway!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-26/manchester-city-agrees-on-terms-with-mario-balotelli-soccer-roundup.html

They will go for Torres regardless of signing Ballotelli imo. They have the cash to sign as many as they like.

south
26-07-2010, 11:51 AM
City have just signed Ballotelli from Inter (on SSN) - sounds to me like Mancini was playing hardball with Inter by bring Torres into the equation. Hope so anyway!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-26/manchester-city-agrees-on-terms-with-mario-balotelli-soccer-roundup.html

he's agent said nothing signed and wouldn't be signing over the next few days

ROCCO
26-07-2010, 12:28 PM
Would be confident Torres wont sign for City or Chelski , if Barca dont come up with a offer im sure he will stay...


Barca is the Worry imo...

dazzlermac
26-07-2010, 12:32 PM
Would be confident Torres wont sign for City or Chelski , if Barca dont come up with a offer im sure he will stay...


Barca is the Worry imo...

i agree.......and i dont think barca will come with an offer......

ROCCO
26-07-2010, 12:44 PM
i agree.......and i dont think barca will come with an offer......

Hope not ......

dazzlermac
26-07-2010, 01:00 PM
ya me too....i just dont think they want to get into a bidding war wit city and chelsea and drive the price up for january or maybe next summer......i do think they will come knockin just not this summer.

ROCCO
26-07-2010, 01:09 PM
ya me too....i just dont think they want to get into a bidding war wit city and chelsea and drive the price up for january or maybe next summer......i do think they will come knockin just not this summer.

Hopefully they get Fabregas and that rules Torres out ..


I read their TV deal is up in the Air as the TV company has huge debts and they had to borrow 150 million euros for wages etc , hopefully this drags on until after 31 August .. ;)

dazzlermac
26-07-2010, 01:12 PM
Hopefully they get Fabregas and that rules Torres out ..


I read their TV deal is up in the Air as the TV company has huge debts and they had to borrow 150 million euros for wages etc , hopefully this drags on until after 31 August .. ;)

that can only be good news for us.......:)

Podgecheco
26-07-2010, 03:15 PM
I cant see him joining city id be gutted if he did i dont think he over values money so im not too concerned about them

General
26-07-2010, 03:21 PM
Reckon the only way he'll stay is if new owners come in the next couple of days so not much hope there.... "his beef is with the club"...wtf does that mean apart from the lack of stability at the club caused by those yank cnuts..

ianomccabe
26-07-2010, 03:25 PM
Seemingly it's a contractual thing about image rights and not to do with new ownwers/investment

travis
26-07-2010, 03:26 PM
Reckon the only way he'll stay is if new owners come in the next couple of days so not much hope there.... "his beef is with the club"...wtf does that mean apart from the lack of stability at the club caused by those yank cnuts..

His beef is something that the sunday rags quoted Roy saying after the match on saturday, Roy said the problem Nando has is there before I came to the club,
Sunday rags exploited this quote.

babbsnads
26-07-2010, 04:03 PM
Would be confident Torres wont sign for City or Chelski , if Barca dont come up with a offer im sure he will stay...


Barca is the Worry imo...

I could see him signing for city or chelsea. I think his style of play is much better suited to the game in England. Plus the wages at city would be astronomical if what yaya toure is getting is anything to go by. Not saying torres will make a decision based on money but its going to be a factor.
If torres decides it's time to leave I'd imagine he already knows where he's going. Mancini's comments today to me make it sound like there's already an offer on the table. If Barcelona are in the running I think we'd be hearing a lot more from their camp. When it comes to transfers they're not very discreet. But we'll wait and see. Hopefully he stays.

Raven136
26-07-2010, 07:04 PM
Betting suspended on Torres to Chelsea..good ol paddy power and publicity.Deal is 46m and players according to Talkshite.

Molby Is a Legend
26-07-2010, 07:06 PM
Just got a txt to say betting on torres joining chelsea has been suspended? Don't think there is much in it, has anybody else heard anything on this?

gav003
26-07-2010, 07:07 PM
Still confident he will remain a Liverpool player.

fermoyred80
26-07-2010, 07:07 PM
Betting suspended on Torres to Chelsea..good ol paddy power and publicity.Deal is 46m and players according to Talkshite.

46m plus Essien, Anelka and Cole :D

Raven136
26-07-2010, 07:10 PM
46m plus Essien, Anelka and Cole :D

46m plus drogba and carvalho please

Terry Conlon
26-07-2010, 07:27 PM
I do thimk he will go, if he wants to go then let him go. If it means the money is re invested!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

redabbey
26-07-2010, 07:33 PM
I would like to place a bet on him playing for LFC next season. What odds can I get?

Carroll9
26-07-2010, 07:56 PM
I would like to place a bet on him playing for LFC next season. What odds can I get?

Paddy Power is offering odds of 1/3 that he stays put.

Terry Conlon
26-07-2010, 07:56 PM
Just had a text from a mate of mine in bootle who says Torres will be a City player for 30m plus Tevez!

crumlin red
26-07-2010, 07:59 PM
Just had a text from a mate of mine in bootle who says Torres will be a City player for 30m plus Tevez!

yer mate is not a taxi driver by any chance:D;)

gav003
26-07-2010, 08:00 PM
I'll have a tenner on him staying with us if someone wants a bet.

Terry Conlon
26-07-2010, 08:02 PM
yer mate is not a taxi driver by any chance:D;) Would you beleive it he is a Joe Maxi driver!!!! But he is a blue sh**e

megager
26-07-2010, 08:03 PM
Just had a text from a mate of mine in bootle who says Torres will be a City player for 30m plus Tevez!

I wouldn't accept 300 million and tevez

Terry Conlon
26-07-2010, 08:06 PM
The last time paddy power suspended the betting on a transfer, Joe Cole signed for us.

byrnetred
26-07-2010, 08:10 PM
The last time paddy power suspended the betting on a transfer, Joe Cole signed for us.

and the time before that Franck Ribéry was ment to sign for us

Juan
26-07-2010, 08:11 PM
No need to start panicking..its only talksport and the rags stirring the shit yet again,with PP publicity thrown in.Didnt some bookies stop taking bets on ribery joining us last year?

Terry Conlon
26-07-2010, 08:16 PM
and the time before that Franck Ribéry was ment to sign for us Would it be so hard for Torres to come out publicly & show his commitment & end all the speculation?

Captain_Morgan
26-07-2010, 08:21 PM
€50 says he is a liverpool player next year

armaghred
26-07-2010, 08:25 PM
Would you beleive it he is a Joe Maxi driver!!!! But he is a blue sh**e


And there lie's the answer.

noodge74
26-07-2010, 08:31 PM
No need to start panicking..its only talksport and the rags stirring the shit yet again,with PP publicity thrown in.Didnt some bookies stop taking bets on ribery joining us last year?

Was actually listening to Talksport earlier as Paddy Power was on and quoting 8/1 for Torres moving to Chelsea and saying that only City,if anyone,looked likely to sign him but he thought that he wouls be staying put...............only for that asswipe Adrian Durham to say he had just received information from 2 "very reliable" sources who said Torres was "definitely" on his way to Chelsea!!

Nice little earner for that particular shows sponsors or what??!!:rolleyes:

wertyu
26-07-2010, 08:32 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/8853856.stm

Well this may be something we all wanted to hear

Carroll9
26-07-2010, 08:38 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/8853856.stm

Well this may be something we all wanted to hear

To be honest I'm more worried about Chelsea than City.Having said that I would put my house on him staying for 1 more season at least.The rags have nothing better to write about at the moment with the lack of real transfer gossip.

wertyu
26-07-2010, 08:43 PM
[QUOTE=zoggsmeister;363560]To be honest I'm more worried about Chelsea than City.Having said that I would put my house on him staying for 1 more season at least.The rags have nothing better to write about at the moment with the lack of real transfer gossip

That is so true!!

up the pool
26-07-2010, 08:44 PM
why o why cant he just come out and say what he is doing the fact he hasnt said anything yet would worry me to be honest:(

graham
26-07-2010, 08:51 PM
Although his silence is starting to worry me a bit I wouldn't read any of that rubbish.
To be honest I can't see him at City, his grand father would be turning in his grave. Can't see him at Chelsea either and Ancelotti said that he doesn't need a striker.
If barca came in for him I'd be very worried but I don't think they'd have the money unless they maybe sold Ibra but it looks like he's staying now.
Still getting a bit worried at his silence at this stage.
Especially after Gerrard said he's staying I was expecting Torres to follow suit soon after

rafalabamba
26-07-2010, 08:58 PM
Maybe he hasnt said anything because he is on holidays?? I know it was only a picture but him putting the scarf on definetley meant something, wouldent make sense for him to join City at the minute, would love to get just one more season from him

dubit10
26-07-2010, 09:00 PM
Jesus H Christ people getting their knickers in a twist over talksport and Paddy Power.
Torres is on holiday. When he get's back training i'm sure he will commit.

MutantNinjaSkrtel
26-07-2010, 09:06 PM
why o why cant he just come out and say what he is doing the fact he hasnt said anything yet would worry me to be honest:(

Gerrard kept his gob shut until ages after his world cup ended and Nando's on holidays with his pregnant wife.Doesn't mean a whole lot.Hopefully Nando's had enough of the Yanks and Purslows shite and he's just letting the 'will he,won't he?' unfold in the press to make them sweat.If Torres leaves the whopper brigade will finally sit up and take notice.No amount of Joe Cole's and propaganda on .tv will be able to save the 4 cnuts running our club from an almighty backlash this time,no matter what way they dress it up.

Personally,I was very confident he'd stay until Rover posted what he'd heard.And if Torres does leave it's a fcuking travesty.Some players want to leave for more money,a warmer climate,a more prestigious club,because they've had a falling out with the manager etc.The sad thing is that Nando genuinely loves the city,the fans and the club and is very settled on Merseyside by all accounts.The only problem is the board not being able to match his ambition for the team.Yanks,Broughton and Purslow have got to go before it's too late.

Rover 609
26-07-2010, 09:24 PM
Personally,I was very confident he'd stay until Rover posted what he'd heard.

I only got that this morning and me mate is normally clued up but ive seen or heard nothing else to back it up today.Just praying to **** its bullshit though.

Beanokelly
26-07-2010, 09:25 PM
I only got that this morning and me mate is normally clued up but ive seen or heard nothing else to back it up today.Just praying to **** its bullshit though.

Anything about players been part of the deal

Rover 609
26-07-2010, 09:27 PM
Anything about players been part of the deal

What i posted is all i got,nothing else.

MutantNinjaSkrtel
26-07-2010, 09:55 PM
I only got that this morning and me mate is normally clued up but ive seen or heard nothing else to back it up today.Just praying to **** its bullshit though.


Really hope it's boll0x too.You're not one for posting idle gossip for the sake of it though so I'm worried....fingers crossed he's off the mark this time:(

wertyu
26-07-2010, 10:35 PM
SSN are now reporting that he has spoken to a couple of clubs & he wants to be playing Champions league football next season, wat the fcuk is going on behind the scenes here in regards to the convincing him to stay end of it...

Niall
26-07-2010, 10:35 PM
SSN saying he wants to play Champions League football this coming season. Hopefully a load of bull based on the fact he'd have known that since May!

travis
26-07-2010, 10:44 PM
If he said that where is the yellow ticker on SSN with the breaking news.. someone is fcuking around here

Molby Is a Legend
26-07-2010, 10:49 PM
I'm a little bit worried that purslow or sorry I mean "a senior source" is leaking this to force torres hand into saying he wants to leave! That way they think the will come out of this with their noses clean? Will the ****! If there is a god up there torres will stay ( I still believe he will and won't disblieve it until I see him at another club ) the yanks and the other two clowns will **** off and stop playing championship manager with our club and we will win the league!

Paddser
26-07-2010, 10:50 PM
If he goes, he's a mercenary.

If he stays, he needs work hard in training to get himself fit.

I cant comment on his state of mind, and ill give him the benefit of the doubt until something is confirmed either way.

travis
26-07-2010, 11:28 PM
Rory Smith Twitter:

"There is no truth in whatever rumour's going round about Torres. He's on holiday and has made no decision about his future. #LFC"

D7Hooper
27-07-2010, 01:54 AM
If he goes, he's a mercenary.

If he stays, he needs work hard in training to get himself fit.

I cant comment on his state of mind, and ill give him the benefit of the doubt until something is confirmed either way.

Most players these days are mercenaries. Very few have any affinity with any club. Sure ,they'll say it in the press, but it's usually horeshite.
Fact is Nando hasn't said anything publically about his future and there's no point in second guessing what he might do until he does say something.

dazzlermac
27-07-2010, 06:59 AM
media spun bullshit imo.......the man is on holiday ffs...........innocent until proven guilty....hes staying imo and until/if he is to be unveiled at another club i shall not believe a word of the tripe being reported.........gerrard didnt open his mouth until he arrived back at melwood???why would fernando be any different????

Raven136
27-07-2010, 08:08 AM
people need to stop saying he is on holidays and definitely didnt say this that or other.Players have phones,email,text,and more importantly agents and he could be discussing loads despite being on holidays.
Ill be angry and heartbroken if he leaves

Bren100
27-07-2010, 08:11 AM
SSN are saying Balotelli is close to signing for Man City - thats good news for us and keeping Torres.

To be honest, I think Torres would be made to leave us anyway

wonit5times
27-07-2010, 09:05 AM
SSN are saying Balotelli is close to signing for Man City - thats good news for us and keeping Torres.

To be honest, I think Torres would be made to leave us anyway

torres, citeh, arsed!!

The Pernicious One
27-07-2010, 10:10 AM
Rory Smith Twitter:

"There is no truth in whatever rumour's going round about Torres. He's on holiday and has made no decision about his future. #LFC"


But sure Paddy Powers has stopped takin bets, and the bookies are never wrong!
:rolleyes:

travis
27-07-2010, 10:31 AM
But sure Paddy Powers has stopped takin bets, and the bookies are never wrong!
:rolleyes:

Fcuk Paddy Powers

Clerk
27-07-2010, 10:39 AM
The latest transfer saga for Liverpool FC. There always seems to be something these days.

glen
27-07-2010, 10:44 AM
Torres 1/3 to join chelsea with sky bet looks like he is going according to the bookies with paddy power no taking any bets

Captain_Morgan
27-07-2010, 10:47 AM
Torres 1/3 to join chelsea with sky bet looks like he is going according to the bookies with paddy power no taking any bets

ribery was shorter odds last year to join us ;)

The Pernicious One
27-07-2010, 11:25 AM
Fcuk Paddy Powers

Exactly!

Rover 609
27-07-2010, 11:27 AM
Exactly!

That sig has me thinking that your sitting there playing with barbie dolls.

The Pernicious One
27-07-2010, 11:43 AM
That sig has me thinking that your sitting there playing with barbie dolls.

Ask one of the mods about it…

carramagic
27-07-2010, 02:35 PM
Roy has just said that what he has heard from Torres is that he's looking forward to coming back on monday and looking forward to playing for Liverpool next season

noodge74
27-07-2010, 03:02 PM
Roy has just said that what he has heard from Torres is that he's looking forward to coming back on monday and looking forward to playing for Liverpool next season

HAPPY DAYS!:D:D:D
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1298055/Fernando-Torres-staying-Liverpool-insists-Roy-Hodgson-Javier-Mascherano-confirms-wants-Anfield-exit.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Captain_Morgan
27-07-2010, 03:04 PM
Take from this whatever u like but George sephton just posted on facey that torres is staying

LFC Lad
27-07-2010, 03:13 PM
Roy has just said that what he has heard from Torres is that he's looking forward to coming back on monday and looking forward to playing for Liverpool next season

Delighted to hear that. :) I can't wait til Nando says the same thing himself though.

Fantana
27-07-2010, 03:16 PM
Roy seems relaxed about it. Good sign I think lads. Can sleep a bit better tonight. Just pray he stays fit, sell Masch asap and keep Maxi.

The Pernicious One
27-07-2010, 03:19 PM
But what about Paddy Powers???

:D

clayton
27-07-2010, 03:19 PM
Sweeeeet

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/10/07/27/SOCCER_Liverpool.html

Captain_Morgan
27-07-2010, 03:21 PM
I'm chuffed we have kept the soul of our team together with pepe carra stevie torres and it's on this platform that we rebuild for next season

Clerk
27-07-2010, 03:22 PM
This is fantastic news. :)

Fantana
27-07-2010, 03:33 PM
But what about Paddy Powers???

:D

I shall never darken their door again.......... Cos I do all my betting online!:D

trucker
27-07-2010, 04:05 PM
But what about Paddy Powers???

:D

And the 100% done deal to city?:confused:

Kop On
27-07-2010, 04:10 PM
Until we hear it from the horses mouth I wouldn't be overly confident lads.

One of the very first posts in this thread was his agent confirming he'd be staying with Liverpool yet we've still had a full summer of uncertainty...

I'm looking forward to seeing Nando issuing a statement...

KOPSTAR
27-07-2010, 04:15 PM
But what about Paddy Powers???

:D

F-ck them :mad:

cakesnjelly
27-07-2010, 06:00 PM
http://a.imageshack.us/img21/9826/1237466899yeahbaby.gif

this
27-07-2010, 06:23 PM
I fully expect Torres to issue a concise statement in a packed press conference after his first training session on Monday by smiling at all the journalists and telling them to ever so politely go f**k themselves. At which point he walks out the door and gets on with the job he clearly loves and gets paid handsomely to do, play for Liverpool FC.

The media don't sell papers off transfers, they sell papers off speculation, a player being bought is only a paragraph of news for a day, but they can keep speculation going all damned summer long, see Torres this year, Ronaldo last year, Berbatov before that etc. etc.

Rover 609
27-07-2010, 06:29 PM
And the 100% done deal to city?:confused:

On que

Kop On
27-07-2010, 07:10 PM
On que

What does that mean?

armaghred
27-07-2010, 07:13 PM
Few jurnos on twitter reporting that he's staying.

Fran74
27-07-2010, 07:14 PM
http://a.imageshack.us/img21/9826/1237466899yeahbaby.gif

Ha ha. Where do you find these Pete? Quality.

GaryMc
27-07-2010, 07:38 PM
I am not getting carried away. Last year One week United came out and said they would not sell Madrid a virus, not long after Ronaldo was unveiled. I don't doubt Roy believes at this moment in time Torres will want to stay, however there are 35 days oF this torture to go.

dazzlermac
27-07-2010, 07:44 PM
dunno bout anyone else......but on me drive to work ina minute im gonna have the radio turned off and im gonna be bouncin

redabbey
27-07-2010, 07:55 PM
I just wonder if the suspended betting on FT had anything to do with his name not been submitted to UEFA (http://en.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/clubs/club=7889/squad/index.html) as part of the Europa League squad.

mushypea
27-07-2010, 07:58 PM
http://a.imageshack.us/img21/9826/1237466899yeahbaby.gif

Thats quality stuff Pete :D

RobbieC
27-07-2010, 08:02 PM
I just wonder if the suspended betting on FT had anything to do with his name not been submitted to UEFA (http://en.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/clubs/club=7889/squad/index.html) as part of the Europa League squad.

Pepe gone too if you where to go by that list.

Thats just for this round.

pakie49
27-07-2010, 08:09 PM
i think hodgeson is not the type 2 say something unless hes sure of his facts hes old school\hoping im right\yanks out

Derekc
27-07-2010, 08:12 PM
Pepe gone too if you where to go by that list.

Thats just for this round.

indeed. sure no kuyt, babel, maxi & masch either ( i know maxi and masch could leave but not at time of list being submitted)

pakie49
27-07-2010, 08:19 PM
i beleve in the words of shanks nobody is bigger than the club anyone who wants to go let them liverpool have kept going after bigger and better players than them left or retired no one is ireplaseable

SOC
27-07-2010, 08:58 PM
I just wonder if the suspended betting on FT had anything to do with his name not been submitted to UEFA (http://en.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/clubs/club=7889/squad/index.html) as part of the Europa League squad.

indeed. sure no kuyt, babel, maxi & masch either ( i know maxi and masch could leave but not at time of list being submitted)

I think the uefa deadline was for the qualifying rounds I may be wrong. Not surprised F.Torres is not in our squad for that. I think there is a different deadline for the group stages although I am not 100 percent certain on this.

redabbey
27-07-2010, 09:03 PM
Pepe gone too if you where to go by that list.

Thats just for this round.

I did not say anybody was gone I just posted the list.

mascherIANO
27-07-2010, 09:44 PM
I dont think Torres will leave. He has to much class and they way I think he will see it is that he was part of the team that finished 7th and didnt play much due to injury. I think next season we will see an even hungrier Torres than ever before.

serpheus
27-07-2010, 10:04 PM
Along with Stevie staying this is the best news any LFC fan could hope for. Nando could pick any club he wants but decides to stay and help get the team back on track while the likes of Mascherano only thinks of himself well he can fcuk right off.

djdwainec
27-07-2010, 11:28 PM
Along with Stevie staying this is the best news any LFC fan could hope for. Nando could pick any club he wants but decides to stay and help get the team back on track while the likes of Mascherano only thinks of himself well he can fcuk right off.

did i miss something? where did he say he was staying?

this
28-07-2010, 12:57 AM
did i miss something? where did he say he was staying?

No direct quotes from Torres, but Hodgson did say in the press conference today that he was speaking to Torres, and that he is looking forward to coming back to training on Monday (the interview is linked on the previous page). That's good enough for me, but until we actually hear the words of his own mouth I guess there will always be some doubt.

RedRuairi
28-07-2010, 03:30 PM
I’m staying at Liverpool FC, Fernando Torres tells Roy Hodgson

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2010/07/28/i-m-staying-at-liverpool-fc-fernando-torres-tells-roy-hodgson-100252-26945213/

FERNANDO TORRES has told Liverpool he is ready to end all speculation surrounding his future and spearhead the club’s charge into a new era.

Reds supporters have harboured genuine concerns that Torres, who has scored 72 goals in 116 appearances during the three years he has been at Anfield, would seek pastures new this summer.

However, Torres has spoken at length with manager Roy Hodgson and managing director Christian Purslow and let them know he will be returning to Liverpool from his holidays next week.

That will effectively end all suggestion that Torres will join either Chelsea or Manchester City before the start of the new Premier League season.

It comes as massive relief for fans, who have already been hugely encouraged by the arrival of Joe Cole and Steven Gerrard’s decision to reaffirm his commitment to the Red cause.

Hodgson, who flew out with Liverpool’s squad today for the Europa League third qualifying round clash with FC Rabotnicki, said: “As far as I know, he is looking forward to coming back here.

“He is coming back on Monday. He is enjoying a holiday and it is a well deserved break because he hasn’t really had one for three years. He is spending time with his family.

Dublin Red
28-07-2010, 04:04 PM
Don't think there's anything new in that above is there? No quote from Torres, just the same thing Hodgson said yesterday?

RedPaddy
01-08-2010, 11:18 AM
SSN: David Villa: "I am actually a little surprised. It looks like Nando is staying," Villa, who joined Barcelona from Valencia before the World Cup, is quoted as saying by the Daily Star Sunday.

"After I spoke with him at the World Cup I thought he would sign for Chelsea.

"I think it must only be that Chelsea did not meet Liverpool's valuation. Because, if they had, I am sure he would have made the move."

He added: "This is Liverpool's last chance to keep him. They have to prove they are capable of challenging on all fronts this season, otherwise he will be gone.

"If Liverpool fail to win anything I am sure he will be at Chelsea next summer.".................................

if this is true, I can't believe nando would consider those souless bas*ards:mad:

graham
01-08-2010, 11:22 AM
That little dwarf should learn how to mind his own fookin business

The beard
01-08-2010, 11:24 AM
Fooker's just rocking the boat, Nando would really go down in my estimation if he joined another english team

Ron1892
01-08-2010, 11:25 AM
That little dwarf should learn how to mind his own fookin business

Agree with you..I wish other players would just keep their converstations with other players private..Puyol of Barca is the same, Regarding Cesc...

Whether is true or not, its ****ing annoying...He is playing in a different country, in a different league, with a different club, so why does he need to come out and tell Journo's this..It has nothing got to do with him, only that he plays with the player at international level...

bobby benitez
01-08-2010, 05:32 PM
He should have concentrated on scoring that peno against Hondurus and winning me more money. Plus he was shit in semi and final. Keep your mouth shut you little runt.

noodge74
01-08-2010, 08:14 PM
He should have concentrated on scoring that peno against Hondurus and winning me more money. Plus he was shit in semi and final. Keep your mouth shut you little runt.

Take it you done the same as me.........Spain to win World Cup with Villa top scorer? :D.................I just KNEW that bloody penalty miss would come back to haunt my bet!! :mad:

gav003
03-08-2010, 12:51 AM
What is wrong with this sentence?

Liverpool's Spanish midfielder Fernando Torres looks likely to miss the start of the season as he recovers from injury but is set to remain at Anfield.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Discuss...:rolleyes:

Yoko
03-08-2010, 08:36 AM
The use of the word "start" instead of "most".....

(I know it's midfielder!)

wertyu
03-08-2010, 12:53 PM
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/i-m-at-the-best-club

'I'm at the best club'

After arriving back to Melwood as a World Cup winner, Fernando Torres sat down with Liverpoolfc.tv to discuss his new manager, the arrival of Joe Cole and his dreams of taking the Reds back to the top of English football.

First of all Fernando, congratulations on winning the World Cup - have you had a good summer?

Yes, as you can imagine it was an amazing day for Spaniards all over the world. Winning the World Cup happens maybe once in your life so it was a fantastic feeling and a great way to end the season. I have had a break over the summer and I'm now glad to be back here at Liverpool to see all of my teammates.

We know you picked up an injury in the World Cup final. How are you feeling now, are you fit and ready to go again?

Yes, I am looking forward to the first game. I have less than two weeks to get ready but I felt really good in my first session back with the physios and the doctor. I will try to be fit as soon as possible and I am looking forward to playing at Anfield again.

We know it's hard work early in pre-season, but are you enjoying being back around your teammates again?

Of course. After a nice break enjoying the summer with my family I was looking forward to coming back to Melwood to see the staff, my teammates and the new players. I'm excited about the new season and about the targets of the club.

We obviously have a new manager now who you met in Spain. How impressed are you with Roy Hodgson's plans for the club and how much are you looking forward to working with him?

I really appreciated the fact that Roy came out to see me while I was on my holidays. He told me about his plans for the club and what he wanted from me and I appreciated that. I hope he will be the right man to reach the targets of Liverpool Football Club and I am really looking forward to working with him. At the moment I am training just on my own but as soon as I can I will train with the team and with the new manager.

Steven Gerrard has already said he is looking forward to the new season, Joe Cole has arrived and made his debut at the weekend - how excited are you about the future here at Liverpool?

I was talking to Stevie a lot today and I also met with Joe. I think Joe is exactly the kind of player we need to improve the history of our club. We are keeping our best players and so it's nice to be back with them. Hopefully we can play together as soon as possible.

How excited were you when you heard Joe Cole was signing for Liverpool?

He is the kind of player I like to play with and the kind of player who can take the team to a higher level. His passing is unbelievable so hopefully he can start the season well because I am sure he will be a key player for us.

Joe has said he's looking forward to creating a lot of chances and a lot of goals for you this season...

Hopefully that will be the case. I'm excited about playing with him and hopefully we can all help him settle into the team and the city to make sure he can reach his best as quickly as possible. It's up to us to help the new players.

What are your personal targets this season and what do you think Liverpool can achieve?

This is the best club in the country so the targets and expectations are always high. Hopefully we can stay at our level. At Liverpool the aim is to fight for every title. It was difficult last season but we are sure we can improve this season. I am really happy to be back, really happy to stay with all my teammates. My commitment and loyalty to the club and to the fans is the same as it was on my first day when I signed. I am looking forward to the challenge ahead.

Why does this club mean so much to you?

From my first day I got the same welcome as Stevie or Carra or players who have been here for a long time. I felt at home from the first day, I feel the fans love me and everyone knows I am really happy here and really happy to play at Anfield. As I said earlier, I'm looking forward to starting the season and playing with my teammates and for the fans.

Is the dream to score the goals which wins trophies for this club?

Of course. I know that one trophy here at Liverpool - maybe the Premier League - means more than three or four with another club. This was my target from the day I came and it's still my target. Hopefully this season we can feel this sensation here at Liverpool.

LFC Barry
03-08-2010, 12:54 PM
Nice 1 Nando!

glen
03-08-2010, 01:00 PM
its great to finally here from nando....end of speculation

GaryMc
03-08-2010, 01:08 PM
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/i-m-at-the-best-club

'I'm at the best club'

After arriving back to Melwood as a World Cup winner, Fernando Torres sat down with Liverpoolfc.tv to discuss his new manager, the arrival of Joe Cole and his dreams of taking the Reds back to the top of English football.

First of all Fernando, congratulations on winning the World Cup - have you had a good summer?

Yes, as you can imagine it was an amazing day for Spaniards all over the world. Winning the World Cup happens maybe once in your life so it was a fantastic feeling and a great way to end the season. I have had a break over the summer and I'm now glad to be back here at Liverpool to see all of my teammates.

We know you picked up an injury in the World Cup final. How are you feeling now, are you fit and ready to go again?

Yes, I am looking forward to the first game. I have less than two weeks to get ready but I felt really good in my first session back with the physios and the doctor. I will try to be fit as soon as possible and I am looking forward to playing at Anfield again.

We know it's hard work early in pre-season, but are you enjoying being back around your teammates again?

Of course. After a nice break enjoying the summer with my family I was looking forward to coming back to Melwood to see the staff, my teammates and the new players. I'm excited about the new season and about the targets of the club.

We obviously have a new manager now who you met in Spain. How impressed are you with Roy Hodgson's plans for the club and how much are you looking forward to working with him?

I really appreciated the fact that Roy came out to see me while I was on my holidays. He told me about his plans for the club and what he wanted from me and I appreciated that. I hope he will be the right man to reach the targets of Liverpool Football Club and I am really looking forward to working with him. At the moment I am training just on my own but as soon as I can I will train with the team and with the new manager.

Steven Gerrard has already said he is looking forward to the new season, Joe Cole has arrived and made his debut at the weekend - how excited are you about the future here at Liverpool?

I was talking to Stevie a lot today and I also met with Joe. I think Joe is exactly the kind of player we need to improve the history of our club. We are keeping our best players and so it's nice to be back with them. Hopefully we can play together as soon as possible.

How excited were you when you heard Joe Cole was signing for Liverpool?

He is the kind of player I like to play with and the kind of player who can take the team to a higher level. His passing is unbelievable so hopefully he can start the season well because I am sure he will be a key player for us.

Joe has said he's looking forward to creating a lot of chances and a lot of goals for you this season...

Hopefully that will be the case. I'm excited about playing with him and hopefully we can all help him settle into the team and the city to make sure he can reach his best as quickly as possible. It's up to us to help the new players.

What are your personal targets this season and what do you think Liverpool can achieve?

This is the best club in the country so the targets and expectations are always high. Hopefully we can stay at our level. At Liverpool the aim is to fight for every title. It was difficult last season but we are sure we can improve this season. I am really happy to be back, really happy to stay with all my teammates. My commitment and loyalty to the club and to the fans is the same as it was on my first day when I signed. I am looking forward to the challenge ahead.

Why does this club mean so much to you?

From my first day I got the same welcome as Stevie or Carra or players who have been here for a long time. I felt at home from the first day, I feel the fans love me and everyone knows I am really happy here and really happy to play at Anfield. As I said earlier, I'm looking forward to starting the season and playing with my teammates and for the fans.

Is the dream to score the goals which wins trophies for this club?

Of course. I know that one trophy here at Liverpool - maybe the Premier League - means more than three or four with another club. This was my target from the day I came and it's still my target. Hopefully this season we can feel this sensation here at Liverpool.

That is one sentence I have waiting for all summer :)

graham
03-08-2010, 01:10 PM
Great news.
I think the media were using their scare tactics with this saga over the summer.
Glad it's laid to rest now

up the pool
03-08-2010, 01:13 PM
doubht ya nando boy:D

campo
03-08-2010, 01:14 PM
All good news lately now for the takeover to be complete and for us to sign Messi, Kaka and Ronaldo

vodkacolly
03-08-2010, 01:21 PM
One less worry for us. Nice one!

garyc
03-08-2010, 01:30 PM
Wow..........first Stevie, then Joe Cole, then possible buy out, and now THIS??????? :p

Juan
03-08-2010, 01:42 PM
Wonder will sky sports news and other media, admit that they were talking bollox over the last few weeks.
http://www.fernando9torres.com/index.php?lang=uk

KOPSTAR
03-08-2010, 02:36 PM
Another piece back in the puzzle and on we go YNWA

pelemcg
03-08-2010, 02:39 PM
Things are looking up for us. Fingers crossed we can get shot of those two crooks now.

this
03-08-2010, 02:44 PM
Happy happy days, now we can concentrate on some f**king football........on aye, and the little matter of the takeover I suppose.

dazzlermac
03-08-2010, 02:45 PM
mind you,i do enjoy a good bounce..........nice one

glen
03-08-2010, 02:47 PM
from a chelsea fan commenting on sky sports on the torres is staying story he says nando is staying for the money what an idiot he clearly would of got more money at city or chelsea sounds bitter to me

Richard Smithson (Chelsea fan) says...

If Torres wants to play Europa League football for a side that havent won their domestic league in over 20 years then he is right to stay. realistically he is just there for the money (like Joe Cole).

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_6293055,00.html

graham
03-08-2010, 02:55 PM
from a chelsea fan commenting on sky sports on the torres is staying story he says nando is staying for the money what an idiot he clearly would of got more money at city or chelsea sounds bitter to me

Richard Smithson (Chelsea fan) says...

If Torres wants to play Europa League football for a side that havent won their domestic league in over 20 years then he is right to stay. realistically he is just there for the money (like Joe Cole).

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_6293055,00.html
Sing sing wherever you may be.
Chelsea have no history.
How many cups? I think it's 3.
Chelsea have no history

I thinks thats the song

merc
03-08-2010, 03:04 PM
bring on the arsenal

prendy
03-08-2010, 03:12 PM
bring on the arsenal

I would rather he missed one or two games in August and is FULLY fit for the rest of the year. I dont think he should be rushed back unless he is 100% ready.

glen
03-08-2010, 03:14 PM
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/eseason/News-and-Interviews/10-11/Im-at-the-bes-19959.php3

Andrew
03-08-2010, 04:40 PM
Well what do you know. The media were just stirring shit for the past few months. Who'd have thought it :)

Delighted he has come out with that interview. Never really doubted his commitment to the club and its future but it's just nice to see it all in print :)

Carroll9
03-08-2010, 05:08 PM
from a chelsea fan commenting on sky sports on the torres is staying story he says nando is staying for the money what an idiot he clearly would of got more money at city or chelsea sounds bitter to me

Richard Smithson (Chelsea fan) says...

If Torres wants to play Europa League football for a side that havent won their domestic league in over 20 years then he is right to stay. realistically he is just there for the money (like Joe Cole).

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_6293055,00.html

Wouldn't mind those cnuts.Was the same in 2005 when they thought they signed Gerrard.It went from being the best signing ever to we never needed him anyway.They don't understand that there is still some loyalty left in the game.
Absolutely buzzing that the rumors surrounding Nando have been finally put to bed.Lets hope that he's with Liverpool for many years to come:)