As a potential sadist, I decided to join the 5,000 or so other loons and travel accross the irish sea to Cardiff in the early hours of Saturday to sample the delights of Cardiff city and watched our national team partake in a nothing fixture against the Welsh. As a result of the early start to my Saturday, I decided to stay in on Friday night and whilst browsing the box for something to watch I stumbled accross a debate on the subject of drugs, specifically cocaine, on RTE. The debate was chaired by Pat Kenny. Pat Carey TD, Minister of State with special responsibility for Drugs Strategy, was present to speak on the subject and beside him was none other than our old friend Mr. O' Doherty from the indo. As I prefer to avoid RTE at all costs, I cant comment on the overall quality of their debates but this debate was particularly poor. O' Doherty, yes the same individual who wrote those disgraceful articles about Liverpool not so long ago, spent large portions of time mouthing pro-legalisation blurb completely unchallanged by Kenny or Carey (who was the only person actually qualified to speak on the topic). O'Doherty is pretty awful. All his appearance did was to confirm the stereotype of cocaine users as being boring self-obsorbed types. That idiot is exactly why cocaine should not be legalised. It is the drug of choice of the self indulgent anti-social. And the rest of society pays for their habit. Opinions on the "debate" or the subject please.
I didn't see the debate but I rarely watch television anyway. Cocaine is used across a large spectrum of society, mostly as a party drug along with ketamine. I'm pretty anti drugs and I dont drink so I can spot people who do various things a mile off. I don't think legalizing anything is the solution. It pretty much boils down to an individuals attitude and taking responsibility for ones actions.I'm pretty suspicious of the whole.. poor community = drug usage aswell. But its a pretty deep topic probably too deep for a soccer forum.
Well this is the current affairs forum. I concur on your 'poor community = drug usage' debate. I grew up in a council estate where there was large scale unemployment (and still is) and whilst there was large scale use of 'soft' drugs and some visible use of hard drugs, mostly heroine, it was nothing compared to the level of abuse I noted when I moved into an enviroment populated with middle and upper class people. The use of cocaine particularly by women in the early 20's was shocking and moreover the lack of understanding as to where the money they were paying (well over the odds I might add) for their substance of choice was incredible. I for one will never lay the blame for the middle-class drugs problem, which I believe will be even more visible when times get tough, at the governments door step. The blame and responsibility lies totally in the hands of the users/abusers. As a tax-payer it grates that I will have to foot the bill for the treatment for these clowns in years to come. You can be very sure that if the situation arises, a middle class person will get any available treatment before some working class soul.
Mate, your more of a sadist for watching Pat the plank then going to Cardiff, would rather listen to Stan talking about the cocaine debate, no wait make that Stan talking while on cocaine, now that would be entertaining..............
I am very much in the 'drugs are for mugs' camp,however if someone wants to indugle, its their choice. Live and let live!!! Coke is fast becomming as popular as alcohol among the 20 somethings and very soon, the goverment is going to have one massive problem as people become addicted, lose their jobs etc and turn to crime. The cops dont move on the small time dealers or users cause they want the big fish. This is where the problem lies, If its illegal to sell/have coke, then people should get jail, simple as that, that would soon stop casual users and wannabe dealers. Zero Tolerance
You can't turn on the tv or radio without hearing of a shooting. The majority of the times it's related to drugs or more specifically the control of them. I know many people who indulge and I often wonder if they think of where their money is going every weekend when they buy this rubbish. It's a mé féin attitude, as long as they get the buzz they're lucking for, to hell with the consequences.
Whats the point in jailing the small time dealers. The can be replaced 100 times over. Moreover, there isnt room in the prisons to house people who were caught with €50 worth of coke.
I see your point, however where is the deterrent though!! you get caught and get a caution and a fine of a few hundred euro. Slap on the wrist (AS in, make sure you don't get caught next time). Ten years ago hard drugs were seen as a major crime, now its like getting caught with a bit dope, its becomming more and more acceptable in society and eventually its going to get out of control. The fines should be increased or suspended sentences get imposed. Anyway it doesn't really bother me, its a person's lifestyle choice. One thing that does though is people getting themselves into a state and its hard working tax payers who pay for their treatment.
Your concern with cocaine use in Ireland is that your 'hard earned tax' will be wasted on their rehabiliation? Working class heroes paying for middle class health services? Wow, the wheel will definetly have come full circle by then........ Why not ban junk food then? Heart disease is already a huge problem worldwide. Or cigarettes? Cancer is the single biggest contrubitor to deaths in the country. Asthma and bronchitis anyone? Nearly 500,000 people in ireland suffer from Asthma. Without suggesting some or any of them are smokers, what about passive smoking? And not forgetting the conveniently overlooked alcohol. Ireland has the highest rate of binge drinking in Europe. 51% of Irish people are regular drinkers of alcohol. The EU health commisioners say they are extremely concerned with Ireland's drinking culture. And looking beyond the health implications what about it's link to domestic violence and road deaths? It's a free world, if cocaine users want to live outside the law, well then it's them running the risk of being caught. But to suggest that your hard work will be picking up the pieces, the mind boggles
The difference between all the issues above and drugs is that they are not illegal (Drink, Smoking, Junk Food).
which is why i said that it is up to cocaine users if they want to run the risk of a brush with the law but to include your tax payments in the argument is ludicrous and to suggeest that everyone who uses it gets hooked and loses their jobs, well that is just wrong
Alguna vez pregúntese por qué algunas personas dibujan actitudes realmente defensivas para los usuarios de medicina