Hull v Liverpool Sunday 4pm

[ROCCO]

Lets at least sign of with a 6-0 ;)

[TrueRed92]

hopefully :D... it will be nice 2 get this season over with

[glen]

ngog hatrick and lucas with 3 assist i can see it already lads should be a win but hulls last game in the prem at home to will want to put on a show for there fans

[Paul]

So who's cheering on Hull?
Result doesn't matter to us ;)

[redabbey]

Unless this game is going to be shown on Setanta Ireland. I can't see it being a pick. I am not sure if Sky have 2 or 3 games saved for Sunday. According to the schedule it is 2 but they could still put another game on the red button anyway if they have another pick left. ESPN have 1 match to show. We will know after tomorrow night.

[dk.lfc]

anyone off here going over to it?

[crumlin red]

it would be nice to sign off with a good hammering against these.I'd love
to see pacheco start this one.

[GAR O' D]

With the relagation issue sorted,I think Sky are doin Chelsea game and Man Ure game.Submarine will probably have us on,they always manage to show us!!!Roll on next season.......

[RedArmagh]

just let the season be over please. win would be nice.

[mushypea]

I'd like to see Pacheco get his first prem start. The future looks like its gonna be now with whats happening at the club so why not get the young lads in for a taste. Also looking at Aquilani to start another consecutive game after a decent run which can only be good as its only now we're starting to see what he can bring to the team.

Sign off with a win & be ready for a circus of a summer for Liverpool Football Club.

[LFC Lad]

So who's cheering on Hull?

The Hull supporters. :D

Hopefully we'll beat Hull 3-0 at least. It would be good to end this terrible season on a high note.

[byrnetred]

espn are still TBC

setanta i think are showing the chelsea game

sky are showing the chelsea & united games

hopefully the sub will have it

[mickdel]

Jesus yes be great to sign of wit a win....and throw on some of the young lads and let them have a tate of the prem...Pacheco definitely should start especially if ngog and kuyt are still injured....maybe even give young Ince a run out...

[redabbey]

espn are still TBC

setanta i think are showing the chelsea game

sky are showing the chelsea & united games

hopefully the sub will have it

Setanta cannot choose the same game as Sky. Because once Sky pick a game they have exclusive TV right's for Ireland for that match.

We will know what games are on tomorrow. Tonight's game result will have a major bearing on the choice of ESPN.

[Axel96]

Would be great to see Pacheco and Ayala start this one, give them some more first team experience...A win and a few goals would be nice...
But ill be glad to see the back of this season..hopefully get rid of those 2 leeches in the summer and get some stability back to the club...

[Phil!]

Only 90 mins left til the summer of uncertainty and torture begins!

[redabbey]

In an idead situation I would agree with giving young Danny Pacheco his first start but Sunday's game still means that Liverpool have to play for a victory first and foremost.

If Blackburn and Villa draw and Liverpool win. Liverpool will finish 6th.

The difference in finishing 6th and 7th is massive.

Finishing 7th would mean starting the season on July 29th in the Europa League. With so many Liverpool players at the World Cup this summer this would be a total disaster. The Premiership begins on August 14th. By finishing 6th the Europa League campaign would not begin until August 19th.

[redabbey]

In an idead situation I would agree with giving young Danny Pacheco his first start but Sunday's game still means that Liverpool have to play for a victory first and foremost.

If Blackburn and Villa draw and Liverpool win. Liverpool will finish 6th.

The difference in finishing 6th and 7th is massive.

Finishing 7th would mean starting the season on July 29th in the Europa League. With so many Liverpool players at the World Cup this summer this would be a total disaster. The Premiership begins on August 14th. By finishing 6th the Europa League campaign would not begin until August 19th.

[barrydoherty]

Finishing 7th would mean starting the season on July 29th in the Europa League. With so many Liverpool players at the World Cup this summer this would be a total disaster. The Premiership begins on August 14th. By finishing 6th the Europa League campaign would not begin until August 19th.

Are you sure about that? I thought we would just be in the 1st round

[dmac1989]

Are you sure about that? I thought we would just be in the 1st round

Yes straight into the first round because portsmouth didnt get through from getting to the final of the fa cup.

[redabbey]

Are you sure about that? I thought we would just be in the 1st round

Yes straight into the first round because portsmouth didnt get through from getting to the final of the fa cup.

I am certain.

[sean]

Finishing 7th would mean starting the season on July 29th in the Europa League. With so many Liverpool players at the World Cup this summer this would be a total disaster. The Premiership begins on August 14th. By finishing 6th the Europa League campaign would not begin until August 19th.

If thats the case I'll be holding off on booking any travel to Mönchengladbach for the time being. A few sunny days in Adriatic Europe wouldn't go astray for a Euro away that time of year though :)

Back on topic, neither the Woolshed or Fraizers have this game down in their schedules for this Sunday, preferring instead to concentrate on some title race and the race for 4th :rolleyes:

[redabbey]

For anyone that doubts my information. You can look it up for yourselves. Page 42 of Europa League regulations (http://en.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Regulations/competitions/UEFACup/84/52/89/845289_DOWNLOAD.pdf).

Match dates for season 2010/11 (http://en.uefa.com/uefa/management/newsid=1478141.html)

[ROCCO]

I am certain.

Your correct ...

[bobby benitez]

In an idead situation I would agree with giving young Danny Pacheco his first start but Sunday's game still means that Liverpool have to play for a victory first and foremost.

If Blackburn and Villa draw and Liverpool win. Liverpool will finish 6th.

The difference in finishing 6th and 7th is massive.

Finishing 7th would mean starting the season on July 29th in the Europa League. With so many Liverpool players at the World Cup this summer this would be a total disaster. The Premiership begins on August 14th. By finishing 6th the Europa League campaign would not begin until August 19th.

Lionel seeing as your the go 2 man on UEFA facts could you answer this for me. If we played Nando in the 1st round would that disquailify him from all CL matches for an other club?

[redabbey]

Lionel seeing as your the go 2 man on UEFA facts could you answer this for me. If we played Nando in the 1st round would that disquailify him from all CL matches for an other club?

Very good question Bobby, As far as I aware from reading the rule which I have posted below. Is that if Nando was played in the in the opening Europa League qualifiers. It would only be possible for him to then be played in the Champions League last 32 onwards providing that Liverpool were still not involved in the Europa League competition last 32 in 2011.

If Maxi Rodrigues former team Athletico Madrid had been knocked out of European Competition. Liverpool would have been able to play him in the Europa League knockout stages this season.

Hope this makes sense.



As a rule, a player may not play in a UEFA club competition (i.e. UEFA
Champions League and UEFA Europa League, but not UEFA Super Cup) for
more than one club in the course of the same season. Exceptionally,
however, a player who has been fielded in the first, second or third qualifying
round of the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League is entitled to
play in the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League for another
club as from the group stage, provided that his former club did not qualify for
the group phase of either the UEFA Champions League or the UEFA Europa
League; moreover, as from the start of the round of 16 (round of 32 for UEFA
Europa League), a player can be registered in accordance with paragraphs
18.17 to 18.20 below. For the avoidance of doubt, a substitute player who
has not been fielded is entitled to play for another club competing in the
UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League in the course of the
same season, provided that he is registered with the UEFA administration in
accordance with the present regulations.

For all matches from the start of the round of 16, a club may register a
maximum of three new eligible players for the remaining matches in the
current competition. Such registration must be completed by
1 February 2011 (24.00 CET) at the latest. This deadline cannot be
extended.

One player from the above quota of three who has played UEFA club
competition matches for another competing club in the current season may
exceptionally be registered, provided that the player has not been fielded:
− in the same competition for another club; or
− for another club that is currently in the same competition.
Furthermore, if the player’s new club is playing in the UEFA Europa League,
his former club must not have played in the UEFA Europa League at any
point in the current season.

[IDon'tKnow]

Only 90 mins left til the summer of uncertainty and torture begins!

The summer of torture can't be any worse the the season of torture we just had.

[mushypea]

Lionel seeing as your the go 2 man on UEFA facts could you answer this for me. If we played Nando in the 1st round would that disquailify him from all CL matches for an other club?

Very pessimistic Bobby ;)

On a plus side, for once, at least he's not city bound after tonight.

[ROCCO]

Fancy Blackburn to get a Point v Villa and us to sneak into 6Th spot on GD+ . {12+}

[edcarroll02]

How many games are on TV on sunday, I heard that there would be two on sky, one on espn and one on setanta, seems a lot to me!!

If that was the case what four would be on, the top two and there isn't really anything else left to play for, the relegation spots and champions league spots are already decided!

[ROCCO]

How many games are on TV on sunday, I heard that there would be two on sky, one on espn and one on setanta, seems a lot to me!!

If that was the case what four would be on, the top two and there isn't really anything else left to play for, the relegation spots and champions league spots are already decided!

Chelsea and Utd on sky ......

can't see any games foe Setanta or ESPN ?

[byrnetred]

Chelsea and Utd on sky ......

can't see any games foe Setanta or ESPN ?

http://tv.espn.co.uk/schedule/

burnley v spurs on espn

[ROCCO]

http://tv.espn.co.uk/schedule/

burnley v spurs on espn

Cheers .... Nothing on Setanta just checked ... but do have premier league game down for Setanta Ireland ch. 3.30pm
http://www.setanta.com/ie/TV-Listings/


Rang Setanta to make sure i kept my offer of 5 euro for sky box and 2 multi room box's and the operator said match unconfirmed .

[redabbey]

Setanta will have a game they have 33 matches in their contract for Saturday 3pm games and the last day of the season.

They have shown 32.

They will either choose Arsenal or Liverpool.

[ROCCO]

Setanta will have a game they have 33 matches in their contract for Saturday 3pm games and the last day of the season.

They have shown 32.

They will either choose Arsenal or Liverpool.

My Guess as well ...... thinking either Arsenal to secure 3rd or thy will go with most of their customers been liverpool fans than Arsenal imo

[redabbey]

Hull v Liverpool has been chosen by Setanta Ireland

[sean]

Hull v Liverpool has been chosen by Setanta Ireland

http://girlzone.me.uk/misc/20051229/swan3.jpg

[barrydoherty]

Fancy Blackburn to get a Point v Villa and us to sneak into 6Th spot on GD+ . {12+}

I wouldn't be that sure being honest, We will do the job but think Villa will aswell. Blackburn away form is brutal.

[ROCCO]

;)hull v liverpool has been chosen by setanta ireland

;)

[ROCCO]

http://girlzone.me.uk/misc/20051229/swan3.jpg

??

[ROCCO]

I wouldn't be that sure being honest, We will do the job but think Villa will aswell. Blackburn away form is brutal.

Villa looking very tired imo ..... Blackburn looked good v Arsenal on Monday .

Blackburn have a chance to finish on 50pts .... Fat Am would love it .. but then he hates Rafa

[sean]

??

Nice wan

[7Cannibal-9Asbo]

Villa looking very tired imo ..... Blackburn looked good v Arsenal on Monday .

Blackburn have a chance to finish on 50pts .... Fat Am would love it .. but then he hates Rafa

I doubt he'll be thinking of where we finish over winning a game seen as the difference between 6th and 7th for us isn't really that big as its a failure either way

[Phil!]

I doubt he'll be thinking of where we finish over winning a game seen as the difference between 6th and 7th for us isn't really that big as its a failure either way

As redabbey said earlier it's the difference between staring in Late July and in August. In a WC summer that's very important

[7Cannibal-9Asbo]

As redabbey said earlier it's the difference between staring in Late July and in August. In a WC summer that's very important

Last year the first qualifying match Fulham had to play was on the 30th of July which is around the time of a late pre season game when most of the first team players would be coming back anyway so I can't see those two games making a huge difference.

[ROCCO]

Nice wan

Thought that ...:cool:

[ROCCO]

Either way this Sunday im going my local boozer and going to drink to the end of a terrible season and will get some pleasure from Chelsea winning and watching the utd fans moaning .... Chelsea dont mess my Sunday up , Last thing i need is a UTD face winding me up .

[david_w]

Looking forward to the team news? Hopefully we'll see Pacheho giving a start. What harm can it do. Heard rumours of Mavinga getting a game?

[edcarroll02]

Last game of the season and nobody posting in the match thread!! Sad state of affairs that off field matters have completely overshadowed the team!

Actually really looking forward to the game, it's a real blow that maxi is out!!

[mascherIANO]

Would like to see ayala and pacheco getta start each today.

[CrazyHorse]

All I want from today is a win and a clean sheet for our player of the season.

I'd like to see the fringe players get a run out also.

[redabbey]

Reina, Mascherano, Agger, Kyrgiakos, Carragher, Lucas, Gerrard, Kuyt, Babel, Aquilani, El Zhar. Subs: Cavalieri, Ngog, Degen, Skrtel, Ayala, Robinson, Pacheco.

[Paddser]

Reina, Mascherano, Agger, Kyrgiakos, Carragher, Lucas, Gerrard, Kuyt, Babel, Aquilani, El Zhar. Subs: Cavalieri, Ngog, Degen, Skrtel, Ayala, Robinson, Pacheco.

Cheers Lionel.

[GaryMc]

Reina, Mascherano, Agger, Kyrgiakos, Carragher, Lucas, Gerrard, Kuyt, Babel, Aquilani, El Zhar. Subs: Cavalieri, Ngog, Degen, Skrtel, Ayala, Robinson, Pacheco.

Does Rafa actually think this guy is any good or is it shop window time?

[byrnetred]

Does Rafa actually think this guy is any good or is it shop window time?

hope he doesnt see a future for him at the club!!

[redabbey]

There is also a place on the bench for Martin Skrtel and Academy starlet Jack Robinson, who could become the youngest ever Reds player if he makes it onto the field.

[Skintown Red]

Who's Robinson, never heard of him?

[mushypea]

Whats wrong with Johnson?

Get out there & show the spirit, heart & determination that we'll expect to see in August no matter what happens this summer....C'mon you Redmen.

[GaryMc]

hope he doesnt see a future for him at the club!!

who's robinson?

According to official site Jack Robsinson will become the youngest ever LFC player if he plays today. He is not listed on Acamedy section of the site.:confused: Saw a report there and he is a defender

[DanielSwagger89]

Lads, I'm 21 today. All I want is a Liverpool win and a Chelsea one. Is that too much to ask?!?!

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Robinson still goes to school ffs!Surprised he made the bench ahead of Mavinga but best of luck to him-hope he gets a run.

[Kev03]

hope they win but hard too see it happening. hull will be all guns blazing. be sad to see lose final game after such a bad season. give hope for next year if they win

[redabbey]

Lads, I'm 21 today. All I want is a Liverpool win and a Chelsea one. Is that too much to ask?!?!

Happy Birthday to you. Have a good one.

An even better result would be a Chelsea loss and a Utd draw but that would be too nerve racking :D:eek:

I don't have Setanta so am hoping for a good stream.

[fermoyred80]

hope they win but hard too see it happening. hull will be all guns blazing. be sad to see lose final game after such a bad season. give hope for next year if they win

sure theyve as much to play for as us

[redabbey]

hope they win but hard too see it happening. hull will be all guns blazing. be sad to see lose final game after such a bad season. give hope for next year if they win

That's terribly negative.

My wish list.
1) Win
2) Clean sheet for Pepe
3) Villa to draw or lose

[bono]

Lads, I'm 21 today. All I want is a Liverpool win and a Chelsea one. Is that too much to ask?!?!

Happy birthday hope you get what you want.

[Carroll9]

Lads, I'm 21 today. All I want is a Liverpool win and a Chelsea one. Is that too much to ask?!?!

Happy Birthday mate.I will settle for that.Cant wait to see the back of this season.In truth its been over since September.Would be nice to finish with a win all the same!

[redabbey]

Jack Robinson
Born 01/09/1993 Defender
Academy scholar who first played in 2008-9
He has been capped for England at U17-level

Rafa Benitez believes there are already signs that our new-look Academy is producing exciting talent.

The gaffer instigated big changes down in Kirkby last summer, with the likes of Frank McParland, Kenny Dalglish, Pep Segura and Rodolfo Borrell being drafted in.

One player they are nurturing is 15-year-old left-back Jack Robinson, who was invited to train with the first team last week.

Benitez is hopeful the teenager and several other Academy scholars will soon be ready to train regularly alongside the likes of Jamie Carragher and Steven Gerrard.

"Jack was okay," the boss told Liverpoolfc.tv. "He was a little bit shy at first, a little bit quiet. But the senior players were helping and supporting him. The first training session is never easy but little by little he was better.

"We have to go one step at a time, they have to progress through different teams, but it's always important to meet someone and give the others the message that they can progress if they're doing well. It's a good message for the others now because they have extra motivation.

"We didn't have too many players of the level we were expecting but now the atmosphere is really good and we have more players with quality.

"They have some players in each group and the other day I got a report with different names and different players - but still they are young so they have to keep working very hard if they want to be in the Reserves and then the first team."

[MrsPepe]

Happy Birthday to you. Have a good one.

An even better result would be a Chelsea loss and a Utd draw but that would be too nerve racking :D:eek:

I don't have Setanta so am hoping for a good stream.

Its setanata Ireland Lionel, does evreyone not have that channel with the basic package?

[edcarroll02]

Its setanata Ireland Lionel, does evreyone not have that channel with the basic package?

Not if you have sky, I think you'd have to subscribe!!

[MrsPepe]

Not if you have sky, I think you'd have to subscribe!!

aww, I see;)

[Paddser]

Good thing i came on here, didnt realise the game was on Setanta Ireland! Happy days.

[Skintown Red]

Slightly off topic but if you subscribe to sky can you get it on your laptop? If so how?

Back to the match, always look forward to our matches no matter what the consequence so c'mon lads lets finish this god awful season with a big win and clean sheet for Pepe

[GaryMc]

Slightly off topic but if you subscribe to sky can you get it on your laptop? If so how?

Back to the match, always look forward to our matches no matter what the consequence so c'mon lads lets finish this god awful season with a big win and clean sheet for Pepe

www.skyplayer.com

[MrsPepe]

lads on ssn pissing themselves laughing at David Moyes saying everton is now a better invest then us

[TrueRed92]

come the pool... good end 2 the season please :D

[welshy1]

lads on ssn pissing themselves laughing at David Moyes saying everton is now a better invest then us

great rant by thommo!!:D:D

[MrsPepe]

great rant by thommo!!:D:D

Brilliant, I thought Merson would fall of his seat with all the laughing:D

[prendy]

comon lads lets finish this nightmare with a win!!

hope 3 or 4 nil.

[Podgecheco]

any links?

[T.N.F]

any links?

best of a bad bunch

http://www.firstrow.net/watch/18440/1/watch-hull-city--vs--liverpool-fc.html

[MrsPepe]

all the links are crap Podge, everyone complaing about them

Chelsea 1 up

[Podgecheco]

Cheers lads i think ill just listen to it somewhere

[SignoraFrasi]

what about sopcast lads.

[edcarroll02]

Well that was absolutely dreadful, Aquaman was unlucky to see his shot come back off the post, he did well to set himself and pick his spot! Agger on the other hand did not!

We should definitely be behind in this one though, need a serious improvement in the second half, lets get Ngog on and go 4-4-2 because this isn't working at the moment!

[MR KING KENNY]

same shit again, sitting back playing on the counter, this is hull ffs,

[fitzpatrickgary]

http://atdhe.net/19040/watch-hull-city-vs-liverpool-fc

[trucker]

If we win and Villa dont we finish ahead of them which will prevent us having to start our season on the 29th of July

[MR KING KENNY]

some better tell rafa, by his style were playing for a point

[RedArmagh]

Pacheco coming on

[Malzheimer]

This game is hard on the eyes :(

[prendy]

This game is hard on the eyes :(

its tough to watch alright but in keeping with most of the other 37 i suppose.

i wonder what they do in training coz we have absolutly no ideas going forward.

[RedArmagh]

If we win and Villa dont we finish ahead of them which will prevent us having to start our season on the 29th of July

villa 1 down dunne o.g - looks like we aint going to win though

[RedArmagh]

what a run and effort from gerrard, off post in injury time

[Carroll9]

If anyones without Setanta and only Sky is planning to watch the game on Football First.I wouldn't bother.Awful stuff.Been hoping for the full time whistle since the hour mark.

[RedArmagh]

all over 0-0 bore

[Deigo008]

pure junk! same old same old!

[GaryMc]

Like most of the season, plenty of huff and puff, the odd half chance and little else.

Without Torres we had fcuk all going forward all season.

[MR KING KENNY]

thank christ this season is over, but well done rafa you got the point

[GaryMc]

Wonder is that a point Rafa was making today. 'You gave me fcuk all money and I had play a 16 year old'?

[MR KING KENNY]

no mate i was talking about our 1 point for the draw. is that not what rafa played for? masc right back? we have defenders on our bench, take of aqua?

[JFT96YNWA]

Anyone know what happened at the end of the match , setanta switched back from the studio to the ground and it looked as if there was trouble in the Hull section ???

[Malzheimer]

no mate i was talking about our 1 point for the draw. is that not what rafa played for? masc right back? we have defenders on our bench, take of aqua?

Dont argue with a idiot? Is that contradiction intentional in your tagline?

I think Kopirish was referring to the fact that Rafa may have been making a point to the owners and chairman that he had to play a kid because he hasn't been able to buy who he wants (not saying I agree).

Nothing match, forget about this season its over now. Thank Fowler.

[1one80eighty]

Wonder is that a point Rafa was making today. 'You gave me fcuk all money and I had play a 16 year old'?

Sorry, but I think this is a disgraceful post.

[MR KING KENNY]

Dont argue with a idiot? Is that contradiction intentional in your tagline?

I think Kopirish was referring to the fact that Rafa may have been making a point to the owners and chairman that he had to play a kid because he hasn't been able to buy who he wants (not saying I agree).

Nothing match, forget about this season its over now. Thank Fowler.
ah its a nothing match now, if you did not know if we won we would finish above villa and we would not have to start our season in july, in my book theres never a nothing match, tell that to the 4,000 fans who made there way to the ground and sang and gave there all.

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Anyone know what happened at the end of the match , setanta switched back from the studio to the ground and it looked as if there was trouble in the Hull section ???


Was wondering the same Les.They invaded the pitch at the end so maybe there was just a bit of aggro with the stewards trying to get them off?

[GaryMc]

Sorry, but I think this is a disgraceful post.

Why so? Why else would a player to plucked from nowhere and stuck on for a few minutes. Plenty of players plugging away in reserves this season. This lad has hardly even played a reserve game. Another strange decision in a season of many.

[Niall]

Why so? Why else would a player to plucked from nowhere and stuck on for a few minutes. Plenty of players plugging away in reserves this season. This lad has hardly even played a reserve game. Another strange decision in a season of many.

Would have to agree. Plucked out of nowhere.

[trucker]

Why so? Why else would a player to plucked from nowhere and stuck on for a few minutes. Plenty of players plugging away in reserves this season. This lad has hardly even played a reserve game. Another strange decision in a season of many.

the reserves are playing in a tournament in Spain, thats why Robinson was bumped up.

[GaryMc]

the reserves are playing in a tournament in Spain, thats why Robinson was bumped up.

Sound that might explain it. Good day for the lad all the same. God knows we could do wit a left sided player comin through

[Tarabuses]

What a way to end the season, a couldn't care less approach. 6th place was there for the taking but it seems Rafa was happy with 7th.

I don't think anyone comes out of this season with credit, owners, players, manager, only the fans seemed to care.

[CrazyHorse]

I don't think anyone comes out of this season with credit, owners, players, manager, only the fans seemed to care.

Hammer. Nail. Head

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

What a way to end the season, a couldn't care less approach. 6th place was there for the taking but it seems Rafa was happy with 7th.

I don't think anyone comes out of this season with credit, owners, players, manager, only the fans seemed to care.

Rubbish.How can you possibly say Rafa settled for 7th?He more or less put out as strong a line-up as he could.

[travis]

Gerrard hit one of the hull fans a slap after the game

[bono]

What happened with Stevie coming off the pitch at the end? Just caught tail end of somthing about it on ssn.

[Juan]

Rubbish.How can you possibly say Rafa settled for 7th?He more or less put out as strong a line-up as he could.
And yet we were second best, against another shit relagated team.

[prendy]

Gerrard hit one of the hull fans a slap after the game

seriously??

he could be in serious bother so.

[travis]

seriously??

he could be in serious bother so.

i haven't seen it.. just joking.. it could have been handbags... nothing could get any worse now with this financial mess the club is in. I'm seriously depressed about it. :(

[redabbey]

Gerrard hit one of the hull fans a slap after the game

I had BBC Final Score on this afternoon on the red button. It looked harmless to me. It was on the pitch after Hull fans ran on. Gerrard looked like he was jostled and he appeared to push back.

[MrsPepe]

There was a pitch invasion after game(hull fans wanting to "hug" their players) big crowd formed around gerrard, taking pics etc and the stewards/police had to assist in getting him off the pitch

None of this is confirmed yet

[7Cannibal-9Asbo]

Was Robinson any use when he came on or do you reckon this is the only time we'll ever see him in a red shirt?

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

And yet we were second best, against another shit relagated team.

Hardly a surprise-Have you been watching us play away from home all season?Was he "settling for 7th" too against the likes of Pompey,Fulham and Sunderland in the first half of the season?

I can guarentee you if we had Nando,Maxi,Johnson etc. and destroyed Hull today there would be lads on here saying "Too little too,late-ffs Rafa,why haven't we been doing that all year" or "Beating fcuking Hull is all well and good but today was a total dead rubber anyway,why the fcuk didn't the youngsters get a game".

Some people will always go out of their way and find an angle to have a pop at the manager.

[Carroll9]

Not really sure why the fans of relegated team would want to do a pitch invasion.If I was a Hull fan I'd want to get away from the ground as quick as possible and you wouldn't see me for 3 months.Bet the rags will blow this out of proportion as usual.

[sligo fan]

There was a pitch invasion after game(hull fans wanting to "hug" their players) big crowd formed around gerrard, taking pics etc and the stewards/police had to assist in getting him off the pitch

None of this is confirmed yet

I saw a little bit of this non the BBC results program and on the clip they showed Stevie didn't seem to be too happy with the attention he was getting!

[Juan]

Hardly a surprise-Have you been watching us play away from home all season?Was he "settling for 7th" too against the likes of Pompey,Fulham and Sunderland in the first half of the season?

I can guarentee you if we had Nando,Maxi,Johnson etc. and destroyed Hull today there would be lads on here saying "Too little too,late-ffs Rafa,why haven't we been doing that all year" or "Beating fcuking Hull is all well and good but today was a total dead rubber anyway,why the fcuk didn't the youngsters get a game".

Some people will always go out of their way and find an angle to have a pop at the manager.

Hardly a surprise is ****ing right! also i said nothing in my answer about us settling for seventh.
and said **** all else about too little too late...or nothing else about the game..or nothing about youngsters..
and was not having a pop at the manager...all i said is we were second best, against a piss poor shit relegated team.
But as we are agreed on ..No surprise there.

[vincenzo]

Was Robinson any use when he came on or do you reckon this is the only time we'll ever see him in a red shirt?
Don't think he got a touch. Hopefully he'll get a chance in the europa league (if we qualify) or carling cup next season

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Hardly a surprise is ****ing right! also i said nothing in my answer about us settling for seventh.
and said **** all else about too little too late...or nothing else about the game..or nothing about youngsters..
and was not having a pop at the manager...all i said is we were second best, against a piss poor shit relegated team.
But as we are agreed on ..No surprise there.


First lines of my post were a response to you.After the gap I was just re-iterating my point about people having a pop at Rafa for the sake of it.

[mushypea]

Today's performance summed up the season as a whole. Lacklustre with no spirit, no heart, no passion, no conviction, no balls & nowhere near enough quality.

This performance like the majority of others this season was just not good enough.

On a plus side, thank you God for finally putting us out of our misery today.

At least now we wont be distracted from the harsh reality that this club is up
shit creek unless someone with dosh & a clear knowledge of Liverpool Football Club comes in with a paddle.

[kaka2001]

Was Robinson any use when he came on or do you reckon this is the only time we'll ever see him in a red shirt?

I reckon Rafa brought him on to make a point rather than because of his quality. Looks good when we are trying to attract young players if we can say well look at this chap who gets a game a 16. I imagine we are a better prospect now for young talent as we have no money.

That said, I could be wrong and this guy could be class. Not much competition at left back!

[Alex Raisbeck]

Don't think he got a touch. Hopefully he'll get a chance in the europa league (if we qualify) or carling cup next season

He passed the ball to Gerraard for his run where he hit the post.
Pity...could have had an assist.

[Trevinem]

I reckon Rafa brought him on to make a point rather than because of his quality. Looks good when we are trying to attract young players if we can say well look at this chap who gets a game a 16. I imagine we are a better prospect now for young talent as we have no money.

That said, I could be wrong and this guy could be class. Not much competition at left back!I just hope Rafa isnt using this kid to make a point about lack of funds. Could ruin the lads confidence and it isnt fair to be using him as a bargaining tool

[bobby benitez]

I just hope Rafa isnt using this kid to make a point about lack of funds. Could ruin the lads confidence and it isnt fair to be using him as a bargaining tool

He can ruin the remainder of my career giving me a red shirt any day.

[bono]

I just hope Rafa isnt using this kid to make a point about lack of funds. Could ruin the lads confidence and it isnt fair to be using him as a bargaining tool

Pure speculation nobody will be able to ever prove that.

[7Cannibal-9Asbo]

I just hope Rafa isnt using this kid to make a point about lack of funds. Could ruin the lads confidence and it isnt fair to be using him as a bargaining tool

I'd imagine he knows he wouldn't have gotten the chance if the reserves weren't in Spain anyway, I'd say Mavinga would have been in, but as has been said already it might help us attract young talent again hopefully.

[Gray72]

Whatever way you look at it this was another poor performance to round off a shambolic season. Do I really need to go through the line ups from each team, talk about experience and caps and costs etc? The Hull team was full of kids and we couldn't even turn them over. i know we have hit the woodwork more than any other team but we have been just crap all season. It really upsets me to hear Benayoun sounding off in the media about how poor we have been, he has been part of it! We haven't shared the goals about and that has been our downfall especially when Torres spends such long periods on the sidelines. Auilani failed to grab this game, Kuyt is truely woeful up front, if only Babel was Kalou and all that without really giving any youngsters a chance. I fear it will only get worse!!

[7Cannibal-9Asbo]

Whatever way you look at it this was another poor performance to round off a shambolic season. Do I really need to go through the line ups from each team, talk about experience and caps and costs etc? The Hull team was full of kids and we couldn't even turn them over. i know we have hit the woodwork more than any other team but we have been just crap all season. It really upsets me to hear Benayoun sounding off in the media about how poor we have been, he has been part of it! We haven't shared the goals about and that has been our downfall especially when Torres spends such long periods on the sidelines. Auilani failed to grab this game, Kuyt is truely woeful up front, if only Babel was Kalou and all that without really giving any youngsters a chance. I fear it will only get worse!!

We played our youngest ever player today at left back :confused:

[Maverick]

Poor game to wrap up a poor campaign.Im just delighted its finally over and I really hope that we can do everything neccessary to pick ourselves up and that matters inside the club can somehow be resolved next season.Im so sick of holding my breath at this stage but I just hope someone comes to our rescue.I know its wishful thinking but we cant lose hope.I dont have much to say in relation to todays match but it was just another poor meomory in a poor season that I would rather forget about to be honest.

[born red 79]

Just watched MOTD. What's with the Hull fans all over Gerrard an then the kick off in the stands.

[ROCCO]

Fancy Blackburn to get a Point v Villa and us to sneak into 6Th spot on GD+ . {12+}

Really thought we would grab 6th ..:mad:

[clayton]

hope he doesnt see a future for him at the club!!

now if i said that about Lucas, i would be shot down.. And he is rubbish also

[Clerk]

Maybe the youngfellow Robinson is just a good player and ye're getting carried away with the conspiracy theories.

Fowler, Macca, Fadregas, Rooney, Giggs all broke onto the scene at 16/17/18. I remember Carra praising that young fellow lately which is unusual for a 16 Year old and imo Rafa wouldn't play him just to make a point.

Haven't a clue if he's any good or not but congradulations are in order as the youngest player ever to have played for the Pool.:)

[kaiser_del]

now if i said that about Lucas, i would be shot down.. And he is rubbish also

Lucas is absolute garbage.Ive said it all season + it goes to show how poor weve been that some people will say he's been one of our better players over the season.

[mushypea]

Lucas is far from absolute garbage. He's won me over & certainly no better or worse than any other midfielder this season.

He, like far too many others are not good enough for LFC. Is he garbage? imo no & very harsh. Pity some players with a lot more ability than him didnt have his attitude this season.

[dmac1989]

Lucas is far from absolute garbage. He's won me over & certainly no better or worse than any other midfielder this season.

He, like far too many others are not good enough for LFC. Is he garbage? imo no & very harsh. Pity some players with a lot more ability than him didnt have his attitude this season.

I dont think he`s garbage either, Been good this year.

BUT

`Lucas is far from absolute garbage. He's won me over & certainly no better or worse than any other midfielder this season`

What about masch, You saying that lucas has been as good as masch this year?

[Phil!]

I dont think he`s garbage either, Been good this year.

BUT

`Lucas is far from absolute garbage. He's won me over & certainly no better or worse than any other midfielder this season`

What about masch, You saying that lucas has been as good as masch this year?

He's definately been our most consistent midfielfder this season Mach included

[dmac1989]

He's definately been our most consistent midfielfder this season Mach included

I wouldnt agree to be honest. And even maxi in his short time here has been consistnetly beter than lucas.

[mushypea]

I dont think he`s garbage either, Been good this year.

BUT

`Lucas is far from absolute garbage. He's won me over & certainly no better or worse than any other midfielder this season`

What about masch, You saying that lucas has been as good as masch this year?


Like i said, he's been no better or worse than any of our midfielders this season. Aquilani because we barely got to see him unfortunately.
Gerrard because he has been p1ss poor & yeah Masch because masch only decided to turn up from Christmas onwards.

[Phil!]

Lucas has barely put a foot wrong all season just cause he's not banging in the goals he doesn't get the same credit. Whenever the constraints have been taken off him he has looked good going forward and when he has played defensive mid he has kept his head down and done the job even tough he gets a horrible ammount of stick.

[dmac1989]

Lucas has barely put a foot wrong all season just cause he's not banging in the goals he doesn't get the same credit. Whenever the constraints have been taken off him he has looked good going forward and when he has played defensive mid he has kept his head down and done the job even tough he gets a horrible ammount of stick.

I not arguing with that. I agree he has been good this season but do you not think maxi has done beter in his short time here.

[GaryMc]

Lucas has barely put a foot wrong all season just cause he's not banging in the goals he doesn't get the same credit. Whenever the constraints have been taken off him he has looked good going forward and when he has played defensive mid he has kept his head down and done the job even tough he gets a horrible ammount of stick.
In my season player Rating I gave Lucas 7. That was for effort and attitude mainly. If we start next season with both Masherano/Lucas as the central midfield partnership though, we will see the same lack of creativity as this season.

[Phil!]

In my season player Rating I gave Lucas 7. That was for effort and attitude mainly. If we start next season with both Masherano/Lucas as the central midfield partnership though, we will see the same lack of creativity as this season.

Agree that we are better off if he doesn't play because mach can offer more and we only need to play one DM but this season he's been good and equally as good if not better than mach.

[F@ces]

I had BBC Final Score on this afternoon on the red button. It looked harmless to me. It was on the pitch after Hull fans ran on. Gerrard looked like he was jostled and he appeared to push back.

Nothing at all in it - just pushed someone away from him...

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[ROCCO]

Nothing at all in it - just pushed someone away from him...

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Nothing in it ... dont think the kid done anything either ? or looking carefully looks he might have squirted something on Gerrard's head or went to touch him on the head but didn't ?, bloke with black top white collar....

[Paddser]

In my season player Rating I gave Lucas 7. That was for effort and attitude mainly. If we start next season with both Masherano/Lucas as the central midfield partnership though, we will see the same lack of creativity as this season.

If Rafa stays you would have to imagine that Kuyt and Lucas will play the vast majority of games. I dont think that's going to win you any meaningful silverware.

[NiallD]

Nothing in it ... dont think the kid done anything either ? or looking carefully looks he might have squirted something on Gerrard's head or went to touch him on the head but didn't ?, bloke with black top white collar....

I think he grabbed the captains armband off his arm, stevie took it back and gave him a little shove for good measure.

[Fantana]

I think he grabbed the captains armband off his arm, stevie took it back and gave him a little shove for good measure.

Correct. Can clearly see it on MOTD. Stevie has no problem with them all around him when he's applauding us but when he turns to go the young lad tries to rip the armband off him without asking. Wrong place wrong time sonny.
Really think the papers are Reading too much into the fact that he went to applaud travelling fans, trying to make it out to be some kind of farewell gesture. Just the captain of the club thanking fans for sticking by them in what has been a horrendous season on the road

[barrydoherty]

Thankfully didn't watch the game for 90 minutes as no bars were showing it, just watched football first last night, As usual we seem to be setup with not to lose the game rather than win it. It will be same next season if Rafa's in charge.

[kaiser_del]

Lucas is far from absolute garbage. He's won me over & certainly no better or worse than any other midfielder this season.

He, like far too many others are not good enough for LFC. Is he garbage? imo no & very harsh. Pity some players with a lot more ability than him didnt have his attitude this season.



I can't disagree that his attitude is spot on but unfortunately thats just not enough.Im sure if any of us got a chance to play for the Reds we would run our boll1x off.

I take back that he is absolute garbage but he is definitely not good enough + if we are to challenge we need to get rid of average players like him.

[redspider]

Hull 0 Liverpool 0

And so Liverpool’s season of 2009-2010 wilts to its apathetic end. In a match that mattered little, Liverpool couldn’t muster up a goal that would have given them a win and 3 points and enough to finish 6th rather than 7th, Liverpool’s worst finish in Benitez’s reign and the worst since 1999, 11 years ago. Yes, it is that bad. It was a dull match that mirrored the dull season for both clubs with both sets of fans pondering the future of their clubs.

Rafa Benitez lined up Liverpool in his customary 4-2-3-1 format, with Mascherano remaining as a stand-in right-back, with El Zhar and Babel both starting.

———— Reina ————
Masch - Carra - Kyrgiakos – Agger
--------- Gerrard - Lucas ----
El Zhar - Aquilani --- Babel
——––––– Kuyt ———

Rafa brought on N’Gog at 62 minutes for El Zhar in an attempt to change things, with Kuyt going out to thr right, and Pacheco got a run at 73 minutes. A surprise bench and then sub appearance for a very young Jack Robinson followed on 87 minutes which made him at 16 years and 8 months the youngest player to ever appear for Liverpool. Why this was done who knows, as his few touches were little value to him or the club. Was this Rafa saying that he is now in charge of the youth programme? Perhaps, as the lad hasn’t even broken into Liverpool’s reserve team. It may indeed be Rafa’s last playing decision for Liverpool FC, we will see.

Liverpool had a good start to the match with El Zhar forcing their keeper into a fine save and then Kuyt had a shot headed off the line. Then Aquilani who was once again in the advanced role and ahead of Stevie Gerrard put a shot barely wide. At the other end Vennegoor of Hesselink had a chance that he headed straight at Reina. Cullen looked spritely up front for Hull but wasted two chances. Then Aquilani had a strong shot which unluckily came off the underside of the crossbar with the rebound falling to Agger who should have done better with the follow-up.

Hull had a close chance in the 2nd half when Cullen nearly capitalised at the back-post, and Hull gave as good as they got. If anything, Liverpool looked tired of this season, and who can blame the players really? I always find that football professionals really show that they are professionals in such ‘dead rubber’ matches. Could any of us if we were really a player playing for Liverpool all season have gone out and busted a gut. Benitez brought on the very if not too young Jack Robinson who probably should have been doing his homework and then Stevie G went alone and nearly scored the goal, cannoning a shot off the post with their goalie beaten. Once again showing that he plays with his heart for Liverpool FC, no matter what some of the doubting fans may indicate. Mind you, it was Hull that had the final say when they shot just over the bar at the end. All this from a relegated side. The tally at the end of the match read Hull’s 11 attempts to Liverpool’s 19.

Meanwhile Aston Villa lost, as did Spurs who could afford to. At the top, te race continued but with Chelsea hammering Wigan 8-0, the title is theirs. With a very impressive 103 goals, th8at is certainly a benchmark that Liverpool would love to emulate some day. Liverpool end up 7th with 63 points, quite disappointing really, and a massive 23 points behind Chelsea.

The final table is:


Team P GD PTS
1 Chelsea 38 71 86
2 Man Utd 38 58 85
3 Arsenal 38 42 75
4 Tottenham 38 26 70
5 Man City 38 28 67
6 Aston Villa 38 13 64
7 Liverpool 38 26 63
8 Everton 38 11 61
9 Birmingham 38 -9 50
10 Blackburn 38 -14 50
11 Stoke 38 -14 47
12 Fulham 38 -7 46
13 Sunderland 38 -8 44
14 Bolton 38 -25 39
15 Wolves 38 -24 38
16 Wigan 38 -42 36
17 West Ham 38 -19 35
18 Burnley 38 -40 30
19 Hull 38 -41 30
20 Portsmouth 38 -32 19


No Liverpool fans can be happy with the season. As mentioned before, there are so many questions now surrounding Liverpool FC. The owners are forced into selling the club so the future is unknown. The best players may not want to stay around. The manager has a good financial deal but surely would take a new opportunity if one presents itself and for the same money. Its not as if he is just about to have a breakthrough season at the club, is it?

Its difficult times for Liverpool FC ….

[redabbey]

Dominic King, Liverpool Echo (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2010/05/11/jack-robinson-relives-the-day-he-made-liverpool-fc-history-100252-26419176/)

JACK ROBINSON was still on cloud nine today as he relived the moment he became Liverpool’s latest record breaker.

Though the Reds’ 0-0 draw with Hull City on Sunday was instantly forgettable, for Robinson – who has starred for Rodolfo Borrell’s Under-18 side as an attacking left-back – it will forever live in his memory.

His four minute cameo at the end of the second half ensured, at 16 years and 250 days, he became the youngest player ever to represent Liverpool ahead of Max Thompson, who was 17 years and 129 days when making his debut in 1974.

What made the feat all the more remarkable is that Robinson has yet to make an appearance for the reserves and was only called up to the squad that travelled to Hull at the last minute.

He, though, has no intentions of letting the moment go to his head and knows there is plenty of hard work ahead if he wants to graduate from Liverpool’s Academy with honours.

“It was an amazing feeling to get on and a very exciting moment,” said Robinson, a lifelong Liverpool fan who was born in Warrington but now lives in Crosby.

“I only found out for certain that I was in the squad on Saturday morning but it was completely unexpected. It’s a dream come true.

“Sammy Lee called me on Saturday and when he told me that I was going to be in the squad, I just went into shock. I couldn’t speak because of the excitement.

“I knew it was going to be a great experience and just sitting on the bench would have been good enough but it became even better to get on.

“It was the first time that I have ever travelled with the squad and I’ll never forget it; I still can’t believe that I’ve made a little bit of history.”

Though he had very little time to make an impact, Robinson did provide the pass which set Steven Gerrard free to slam a shot against the base of the post and the captain had been quick to pass on advice before the game.

“I’ve had a good season with the Academy but all I want to do now is keep working hard over the summer and make sure I’m ready for pre-season,” said Robinson.

“I’ll make sure I get down to the beach and do some extra running to stay in shape. Stevie and Jamie Carragher were great beforehand. They told me to enjoy every minute – and I did!”