Has conspiracy theory written all over it. Polish President, most of the heads of the Armed Forces (army, navy, air force and special forces), head of their central bank. All on the way to a Katyn Forest memorial http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre Russians involved in the Kyrgyzstan uprising this week. US distracted with Iraq/Afghanistan, the Health Bill, and now the retirement of a liberal Supreme Court judge.
I seriously doubt it. Who would have the balls, the means, and the motive to bring down a plane with so many high ranking Polish officials? Would they be trying to destabilise Poland or EU? And who did they conspire with to cause the heavy rain and fog... mother nature or god?
I was wondering that myself,its strange, as they called an election straight away. Might be nothing in it though. we are a sceptical bunch on here!
Whoever let common sense get in the way of a good conspiracy..... Now back to what happned,Appartently the CIA are all over Poland, because of that missle thing. If it is nefarious. History has thought us they are either behind it or definately knew about it.
We need to get this back on track and quick, otherwise it'll never turn into a 100+ post thread Anyway, I reckon it's highly unusual for so many "VIPs" to be traveling on one aircraft, for the reason already implied here - security. Someone has to ensure that in such an event, people like the vice president, some of the other heads of function, military commanders etc are elsewhere otherwise the entire government is wiped out etc. Whoever put them all on the same flight, must be in on this .... Am I the only one who watches 24 these days ????
On your own, on your own, on your own,. Defo something fishy about that whole plane crash, as you said, they shouldn't have all been on the one plane in the first place,.
Whatever about a conspiracy, most of my polish mates were over the moon about it! They absolutly hated him
Most of mine didnt like him either but they definitely see it as a national tragedy loosing so many in a plane crash.
Well, I was one of the first to dismiss the conspiracy theories but Ive since been informed of some dubious events This video was filmed by a local Russian who was walking through the forest with a friend. It was too soon after the crash for emergency services to have been there and there was supposedly no survivors from the crash.... so there should have been nobody else around. But apparently, this video shows possible survivors and the sounds of possible Russian military and also gunshots. It seems there were gunmen in place on the ground ready to kill any survivors, obviously suggesting the crash was no accident. The Polish president was anti-EU and didnt want to introduce the Euro in his country.... so the French, Germans, and a long list of others didnt want him in power. His successor is much more willing to conform to what the big EU powers want. Of course, Russians say this video is a hoax... but apparently it was uploaded onto Youtube straight away after the crash... too soon to be created and manipulated. It was promptly taken down but other users had already copied it so they again uploaded it. Many of these users had the video deleted and accounts removed etc. As for the guy who filmed it.... he was stabbed a few days later in a seemingly random attack... and then his life support was turned off by 'unknown intruders'. Conspiracy or hoax? [YOUTUBE]FEx7HL4H5yk[/YOUTUBE]
Great debate, I'd imagine if the Russians were planning this, there is no way he would have been that close with a camera and not be seen.
The arguement is... They couldnt prevent people from entering the forest before the crash happened... all they could do was wait near where they thought the plane would hit. Once it crashed, they approached it from one side (opposite side to the civilians) and were kept busy making sure survivors didnt escape. The guy who filmed this on his phone, was on his way to work in a local factory and left the scene as soon as he knew something wasnt right. The video is only about 80 seconds long so he wasnt on the scene for long. Im gonna sit on the fence on this one for the moment
bulls**t id say wouldnt the post mortems show people died by gunshot and why would the russians kill them why would they care if they were in the eu or not
No post mortems. The plane crashed on Russian soil... the Russians carried out the investigation... they claimed everyone died in the crash. A massive amount of Russian exports are transported through Poland including gas/oil... maybe the Euro superpowers convinced Russia it was in their best interests to keep Poland 'onside'.?