John Giles on NewsTalk

[Dub13]

He gave a big hint that Paul Jewell will be the next Ireland manager,he said he could not really talk about it but would be in a position to talk tomorrow.

[Dub13]

I got Jewell at 4/1 on Paddy Power just after that post,he has just moved into 5/2.

[sean]

Was listening to that as well, half an hour later NewsTalk were referring to it as "the Paul Jewell revelations". Hope you put more than a euro on that 4/1 bet mate!

[Dub13]

Was listening to that as well, half an hour later NewsTalk were referring to it as "the Paul Jewell revelations". Hope you put more than a euro on that 4/1 bet mate!


It was significantly more than a euro,all I will say is if Paul Jewell is not the next Ireland manager my kids will be getting connect 4 for Xmas.

I hate the manager market,every time a job comes up I keep saying don't bet on this market its a mugs game.But I am a mug for it,as I keep betting.

[LiverKing]

What I'd Like to know... is what do you think of Paul Jewel, is he Good enough or what does he bring?

[sean]

What I'd Like to know... is what do you think of Paul Jewel, is he Good enough or what does he bring?

Personally, I'll be delighted if he's appointed. He was my first choice from the word go. I think he'd bring plenty of enthusiasm and spirit to the team, and motivate the team to play above themselves in the way we used to back in the 90's. But I'm not going to get too carried away yet, not til tomorrow at least ;)

[GaryMc]

http://newstalk.ie/newstalk/news/2529/giles-says-he-ll-clarify-jewell-for-ireland-rumours-on-newstalk-tomorrow.html

2.4 on betfair, I just put my whole balance on him.... I hope he gets it

The are no longer taking bets on paddypower, bet cronicle or boylesports..... they are running scared

[Yoko]

only got him at 5/2..... still it would be a decent return!

[mypost]

2.4 on betfair, I just put my whole balance on him.... I hope he gets it

The are no longer taking bets on paddypower, bet cronicle or boylesports..... they are running scared

Can't see an appointment being made until mid-January at the earliest, and certainly not on the eve of an international.

We heard all the "bets-off" before the last appointment. Apparantly, Venables was "certain" to get the job, then Keegan was "certain" to get the job too. Neither did.

Hiring Jewell will be a disaster if it comes about. Better than Staunton, (not hard) but worse than Kerr. Has never won anything, and is useless against any kind of big team. Not likely to stay around for a full campaign either, as soon as a big bucks PL team come calling, he'll be off, ala Sanchez, possibly even before the start of the qualifiers.

What we need is an ambitious boss, who is going to stick around and make a decent stab at qualification. Paul Jewell doesn't fit the bill. He wants a PL job, so let him get on with getting it.

[Fowler's God]

Can't see an appointment being made until mid-January at the earliest, and certainly not on the eve of an international.

We heard all the "bets-off" before the last appointment. Apparantly, Venables was "certain" to get the job, then Keegan was "certain" to get the job too. Neither did.

Hiring Jewell will be a disaster if it comes about. Better than Staunton, (not hard) but worse than Kerr. Has never won anything, and is useless against any kind of big team. Not likely to stay around for a full campaign either, as soon as a big bucks PL team come calling, he'll be off, ala Sanchez, possibly even before the start of the qualifiers.

What we need is an ambitious boss, who is going to stick around and make a decent stab at qualification. Paul Jewell doesn't fit the bill. He wants a PL job, so let him get on with getting it.


Jewell is better than Kerr. To take two unfashionable clubs for relegation fodder in League One as they were then both Bradford and Wigan and get them to the Premiership and stay takes a lot of doing more than winning a couple of league titles with St. Pats. Although i think the FAI were a bit hasty sacking Kerr. He was very unlucky during his reign as manager.

[Jockser]

aint gonna happen lads!

[GaryMc]

Can't see an appointment being made until mid-January at the earliest, and certainly not on the eve of an international.

We heard all the "bets-off" before the last appointment. Apparantly, Venables was "certain" to get the job, then Keegan was "certain" to get the job too. Neither did.

Hiring Jewell will be a disaster if it comes about. Better than Staunton, (not hard) but worse than Kerr. Has never won anything, and is useless against any kind of big team. Not likely to stay around for a full campaign either, as soon as a big bucks PL team come calling, he'll be off, ala Sanchez, possibly even before the start of the qualifiers.

What we need is an ambitious boss, who is going to stick around and make a decent stab at qualification. Paul Jewell doesn't fit the bill. He wants a PL job, so let him get on with getting it.

Have you seen his record. He took struggling clubs (Bradford and Wigan) into top flight, kept them in the league with relatively poor players. he did not have a massive budget at either club and once he felt he had taken them as far as he could, he left on a high. We have seen how Chrish Hutchings did wit the same players after he left. He has a proven top flight record, far more than when Kerr took over. I think he would be an ideal appointment, out of the current front runners, Houllier, Vegtables, Troussier, O Deary and Brady, I think he is the best option. We have a talented squad, we need someone who can shake things up and get the best out of players (Something Jewell has done in both his previous jobs)

[mypost]

Have you seen his record. He took struggling clubs (Bradford and Wigan) into top flight, kept them in the league with relatively poor players.

As a Scouser, I can see why he gets support here, but his record at Bradford and Wigan is far from convincing. Both sides stayed up on the last day of seasons, only as we blew a CL place on the last day of the season, and Sheff Utd blew their last game at home.

Kerr has won underage titles and leagues before, managed in European games, as have GH, TV, and PT. Brady hasn't managed in years, and has zero chance of getting the job.

Honestly, Jewell would be a disaster, and we need to get this appointment right, once and for all.

[ianmahony1977]

I got an inside tip on Phillip Troussier when Kerr got the job. My bank manager didn't see the funny side of it.

[GaryMc]

I see the back page of the metro says Houllier is favourite....

[stevieg]

The Mirror says Jewell would be more interested in a club job and it does look like there may be a job in the PL coming up.

He has drifted out now on Betfair traded at a low of 2.0 is now out to around 3.45 but could go bigger as the price to lay is 5.3.

[krazykeith]

I got an inside tip on Phillip Troussier when Kerr got the job. My bank manager didn't see the funny side of it.

:D:D:D:D:D:D

[krazykeith]

Jewell is very talented, no doubt, done well with nothing to spend in all his jobs, remeber he brought Bradford to Anfield on the last day of the season needing a win to stay up.
But i have to say i'm not sure he would be my top choice.
I also think that he will get the brum gig when bruce goes to wigan

[Jockser]

this happens every time a new manager is being sought......an "insider tip" and the bookies rake it in:rolleyes:
in my opinion i think houllier will get it

[mypost]

Personally, I think Mourinho would be the very best appointment. He's freely available, isn't that keen to go back into club management soon, would instill a highly professional set-up, give it his total dedication, and demand a winning mentality.

Sadly, there's no chance of him getting it, as can you imagine him squareing up to Delaney?? No, me neither. It would make his confrontations with Roman and co seem amicable by comparison.

As in everything in life, you get what you pay for. You want the best, you pay for it. Mourinho would be a worthwhile investment, and we have the money to pay for his appointment. But if we pay for a useless "yes man" like Jewell, who I can't see staying around for even half a campaign, our chances of qualifying will remain what they are now.

[trucker]

Jewell is very talented, no doubt, done well with nothing to spend in all his jobs, remeber he brought Bradford to Anfield on the last day of the season needing a win to stay up.
But i have to say i'm not sure he would be my top choice.
I also think that he will get the brum gig when bruce goes to wigan

Bradford were the home team for that game you refer to they beat us 1 nil.

[sean]

Bradford were the home team for that game you refer to they beat us 1 nil.

And what a sickener of a result that was for us. I remember listening to the game on my walkman (they were the big thing back then, long before ipods became the norm :p ) at Heathrow waiting for my connecting flight back home. Had to board the plane with about 20 mins to go, was sickened when I got home to hear the final result, cost us European Cup football and all.

[GaryMc]

All the papers today are saying Teddy Vegtables is going to get it. Houllier, Jewell and him all tipped by papers over last three days which means none of them has a clue, probably the FAI dont either. The World Cup draw is on this Sunday, maybe potential candidates will wait until that before commiting.

Imagine we got a stinker like Italy, Sweden, Serbia, Finland etc.... that could have a bearing on it

[gp25]

i think jewel would be great for ireland,hes got enthusiasm with experience of serious pressure to back it up.he also seems to be able to get the best out of players players with limited ability.another thing to remember is that we have to sell this job to someone,if jewel is looking at this job as a stepping stone to a big pl team its all good for us as he'l have to produce results to be taken serious by any of those teams

[WexRed]

How some people think Jewell isn't good enough amazes me. He would seem to be the exact type of manager that reflects what we miss about the Irish team. He'd instill the same fighting spirit against the overrated "big" international teams as his clubs showed against big premiership teams. Would give a few overdue kicks up the arses too.

We'd be damn lucky to get him rather than some manager who hasn't managed in years. Some seem to be oblivious to the conundrum we face in getting a "good" manager in that any one worth their salt will want a club job over an international job unless the latter is a glam one which this obviously isn't. Saying he'll be off is pretty pointless. Should we take sh1te because sh1te will stick with us ? If he was with us for 2 years and we qualified then job well done and value for money I'd say and good luck to him. Of course the better he does the more he'll be wanted.

Maybe he wants an easier going job given he did have health issues too in keeping up the Prem pace. Maybe he sees that pro-rata he'll be getting paid a lot better than he would as a club manager and will have time for family and not be threatened with the sack every few months. Maybe he sees this an opportunity to take a decent set of players, most better than he had at club level, and get the most out of them and the thrill of competing in a World Cup. Maybe he sees he can combine that with TV work, raise his professional profile and keep his finger on the PL pulse since most Irish players are playing there. Maybe he's actually the perfect fit ?!

I reckon he's the closest thing you'll get to an existing Premiership manager. He left of his own accord and would probably be hired by at least two existing Prem clubs recently if he wanted it. I don't see them knocking down the door of all other candidates which probably says it all (alright Souness was connected to the Wigan one I'll give you that). Welcome him with open arms if he wants it. Always liked his press conferences by the way, calls a spade a spade without being a neanderthal or insulting or singling out his own players although I'm sure he crucifies them behind closed doors and so it should be (O'Shea will be sh1tting himself !)

Mourinho ??? Come on, get real, Jewell's the best of the names I've seen and most 'current' manager.

BTW I was told from an "insider scource" that Daglish was a dead cert but I knew better than to depart with my hard earned cash. The bookies love this sh1te especially since knowing the FAI they themselves believe a different someone's a shoe in everyday so the sources are technically valid at the time :rolleyes:

[mypost]

We'd be damn lucky to get him rather than some manager who hasn't managed in years. Some seem to be oblivious to the conundrum we face in getting a "good" manager in that any one worth their salt will want a club job over an international job unless the latter is a glam one which this obviously isn't. Saying he'll be off is pretty pointless. Should we take sh1te because sh1te will stick with us ? If he was with us for 2 years and we qualified then job well done and value for money I'd say and good luck to him. Of course the better he does the more he'll be wanted.

Hiring Jewell, will be akin to the recent situations with the coaches of Scotland and Northern Ireland. As soon as Smith got some results for Scotland, Rangers wanted him and got him with little resistance. They didn't want to know about him until Scotland beat France. :rolleyes: They even sacked your man McLeish, who was left to deal with the clean-up from Smith. He lost 3 more games, and Scotland failed to qualify by one point. Who will look at him now??

Similiar with Norn Iron. They win a few games, and all of a sudden Fulham wanted Sanchez, and got him too. Nobody wanted anything to do with him, after he lost 3-0 at home to Iceland, did they?? Since then, Norn Iron have collapsed and gone out of the EC.

This is the same situation with Jewell. Chelsea wouldn't take him, Spurs wouldn't take him, Bolton wouldn't take him, Newcastle wouldn't take him, Manchester City wouldn't take him on before now. Why should we??

We have had 3 managers in the last 5 years, 2 in the last 3. What we need is a motivated boss, with a winning mentality, not somebody who will pis off at the first club offer on the table, further weakening our chances at qualifying for tournaments, as someone will have to deal with the clean up. We cannot afford to be hiring managers every year. We need someone who will win and stay with us for the long haul. Given our current ability, and rankings, we need to get this appointment right.

[Paul]

Please GOD i hope it's not Jewell. After what happened with Stan we need to go for someone with expierence at international level.

[Pimboli]

Please GOD i hope it's not Jewell. After what happened with Stan we need to go for someone with expierence at international level.

The fact is what proper international manager would want to take on our lot?

Its all well and good having someone like Houllier and Vegtables being mentioned but they have managed teams that had really good players to pick from which helped them at international level.

To be honest club football and international football is the exact same game just with a higher calibre of player on the park against you. We need a manager who can get the very best out his limited players rather than one who is tactically astute. If O'Neill was offered the job no one would complain about his lack of international experience, just how he has done great things getting the best out his players and Jewell has shown he can do that.

He is used to working with average players. Its all about instilling heart and motivating a high workrate. Look at our CL winning side, technically they are inferior to the current side but were driven and committed on the park, but if you lined up that team with our current team the 2005 one would easily beat them.

[mypost]

The Irish job is a great job for any boss with ambition, and feels that he can make progress with the side. Loads of bosses would want a good keeper, good wingers, and great forwards. That's what we have, as a start. We have a team full of PL players, and we have players coming through the underage set up of decent ability. We have the bones of a side there, we need someone who can put meat on the bone.

For anyone that wants a handy gig, or a stepping stone to a club job, then the Irish job is not for them.

[Garrett]

Hi

The more I've though about John Giles going to meet Paul Jewell the more upset I've gotten about it ...

1) Who made him the public spokesman for Irish footie fans ?

2) If his intentions are so great, why has he not flown off to meet up with other possible candidates who are definitely of the same, if not far better caliber than Paul Jewelle (eh, Mourinho would be a class act, highly entertaining in addition to being a good manager for one example)

If the FAI do another cheapass effort and employ someone under qualified, without both experience and a good track record I'm going to start buoycotting the Irish games .. I'm sick to the teeth of their crap and with loads of dosh in the FAI piggybank, there is no excuse this time around !

[GaryMc]

Hi

The more I've though about John Giles going to meet Paul Jewell the more upset I've gotten about it ...

1) Who made him the public spokesman for Irish footie fans ?

2) If his intentions are so great, why has he not flown off to meet up with other possible candidates who are definitely of the same, if not far better caliber than Paul Jewelle (eh, Mourinho would be a class act, highly entertaining in addition to being a good manager for one example)

If the FAI do another cheapass effort and employ someone under qualified, without both experience and a good track record I'm going to start buoycotting the Irish games .. I'm sick to the teeth of their crap and with loads of dosh in the FAI piggybank, there is no excuse this time around !

In fairness Giles explained his reasons on live radio. He said that Wigan and Birmingham were both interested in him taking over and because the FAI had not setup their group to oversee the appointment, he met with Jewell to see if he would be interested... I say fair play to him... them tools in the FAI could not organise a raffle

[Garrett]

In fairness Giles explained his reasons on live radio. He said that Wigan and Birmingham were both interested in him taking over and because the FAI had not setup their group to oversee the appointment, he met with Jewell to see if he would be interested... I say fair play to him... them tools in the FAI could not organise a raffle


Sure are clubs not trying to sign other managers too ?
= the but of my problem here, is he took it upon himself to only speak with one possible candidate here, not several, I suppose.

[mypost]

In fairness Giles explained his reasons on live radio. He said that Wigan and Birmingham were both interested in him taking over and because the FAI had not setup their group to oversee the appointment, he met with Jewell to see if he would be interested...

With Jewell off to Derby (thank Christ) Giles looks a right eejit. Who else will he be "meeting with"?

[GaryMc]

With Jewell off to Derby (thank Christ) Giles looks a right eejit. Who else will he be "meeting with"?

Can't see how he looked as an eejit. His point was that the commitee had not been setup and Jewell was in frame for a few PL jobs. He thought he would sound out Jewell before he accepted a job in the Premiership.

As it turned out, he wanted club management and told the FAI he was not interested. Better to see was he interested.

He would be a better candidate that Brady (No managerial Record) and Vegtables (Dodgy dealer and last five jobs have been abysmal). Of the remaining Candidates in the frame, I would go for Houllier (at that says a lot of the remaining candidates)

[Fowler's God]

The one person everyone hasn't mentioned to get the job as much as Brady, Houllier and Venables is Troussier. The man has a proven track record in International Management and the FAI are fools in not headhunting him before the rest of the candidates. Him or Roy Hodgson would be good appointments.

[willk1977]

Hi

The more I've though about John Giles going to meet Paul Jewell the more upset I've gotten about it ...

1) Who made him the public spokesman for Irish footie fans ?

2) If his intentions are so great, why has he not flown off to meet up with other possible candidates who are definitely of the same, if not far better caliber than Paul Jewelle (eh, Mourinho would be a class act, highly entertaining in addition to being a good manager for one example)

If the FAI do another cheapass effort and employ someone under qualified, without both experience and a good track record I'm going to start buoycotting the Irish games .. I'm sick to the teeth of their crap and with loads of dosh in the FAI piggybank, there is no excuse this time around !


You have to realistic aswell. Do you think Morinho would ever take the Irish job, no matter what the FAI offered him !? I dont think so.
Its rumored that he is looking for 4million a year tio manage England and no matter what you say about the FAI and how much money thay have. This is surely above their means. Rou Hodgson would be my choice and I think he's a realistic choice aswell

[sean]

Hi

The more I've though about John Giles going to meet Paul Jewell the more upset I've gotten about it ...

1) Who made him the public spokesman for Irish footie fans ?

2) If his intentions are so great, why has he not flown off to meet up with other possible candidates who are definitely of the same, if not far better caliber than Paul Jewelle (eh, Mourinho would be a class act, highly entertaining in addition to being a good manager for one example)

If the FAI do another cheapass effort and employ someone under qualified, without both experience and a good track record I'm going to start buoycotting the Irish games .. I'm sick to the teeth of their crap and with loads of dosh in the FAI piggybank, there is no excuse this time around !

When the story broke that Giles had spoken to Jewell and was spouting away on Newstalk, I was convinced that he had done so with the full blessing of the FAI. Seeing as they didn't your right to ask who made him the public spokesman for Irish footie fans. He bloody ended up costing me as well as I threw down a few quid on Jewell being next Irish manager after hearing that!

While I doubt Mourinho would ever grace our shores with his management ability (here's hoping...) its fair enough to ask why should good old Gilesy only knock on Jewell's door if he's going to be meddling in other peoples business anyway!

The time to act is now. We can't afford to have another poor manager take the helm because already its too long since Ireland have qualified for a major tournament. Kids growing up now will wonder what all the fuss it about with the international team and simply won't care and will defect to GAA or rugby.

[mypost]

Can't see how he looked as an eejit. His point was that the commitee had not been setup and Jewell was in frame for a few PL jobs. He thought he would sound out Jewell before he accepted a job in the Premiership.

If he was interested, he's well capable of signalling that himself, without the need for outsiders to "meet" him.

Giles should also resign from his pundit post, as his impartiality regarding this appointment is compromised.

[GaryMc]

Giles should also resign from his pundit post, as his impartiality regarding this appointment is compromised.

The current RTE pundits should all resign seeing as they are muppets. Appoint a new set (A selection of Fans)