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midg23
17-03-2010, 03:41 PM
IMO Steven Ireland is a great, if weird, player, and given the chance if we had the funds id snap him up in a second, dont think he fits into Mancini's style of play, any one else share my opinion

Discuss

GaryMc
17-03-2010, 03:50 PM
Can't see where is best position is to be honest. Does he have the tackling ability for Centre midfielder at the highest level, or pace and power to play of a front man. I dont think so. Not a wide man either. Similar style to Danny Murphy.

Very talented player but a big opinion of himself also.

midg23
17-03-2010, 03:51 PM
Sorry to mention this as a replacement for Mascherano if he left in the summer

JMurray#8
17-03-2010, 04:07 PM
Sorry to mention this as a replacement for Mascherano if he left in the summer

Isn't he just about to sign a new contract?

MutantNinjaSkrtel
17-03-2010, 04:09 PM
Brilliant player imo but City will never sell someone who's going to improve the first team of a champions league rival.Think his best position is the Gerrard role just behind the striker but he'd be versaitle enough to fill in on the left or right of a 4-2-3-1 if needs be.Deffo not a replacement if masch left though-totally different players.

lfc1973
04-04-2010, 11:05 PM
steven ireland would be a good buy for us in the summer but it depands a lot on what the price is for him

titicamara
05-04-2010, 12:08 AM
Brilliant player imo but City will never sell someone who's going to improve the first team of a champions league rival.Think his best position is the Gerrard role just behind the striker but he'd be versaitle enough to fill in on the left or right of a 4-2-3-1 if needs be.Deffo not a replacement if masch left though-totally different players.

They sold Dunne to Villa. I don't think I'd want Ireland though to be honest, I don't think he's good enough, but I could see Rafa liking him.

Badman
05-04-2010, 09:23 AM
i'd take him in a second. he is a superb passer and has excellent vision. the only problem is this: where would he play. the only position i could see rafa playing him is left wing which is his 'i dont have any other position available' position as kuyt has the outside right posn sewn up til the stat pension arrives, ditto for masch and lucas in midfield. in the right setting and with the right manager he would flourish. he's def top 4 standard...lets face it he's more talented than song, dennilson, carrick, fletcher, anderson or lucas. he'd be wasted in our current set-up

bryanod
05-04-2010, 05:08 PM
Over-hyped head-case.

Why!?!

Irish players are rubbish, please stop mentioning them.

LFC Lad
05-04-2010, 05:27 PM
Sorry to mention this as a replacement for Mascherano if he left in the summer

Masch isn't leaving. He's already said a few times recently that he wants to sign a new contract.

CrazyHorse
05-04-2010, 05:56 PM
Over-hyped head-case.

Why!?!

Irish players are rubbish, please stop mentioning them.

Harsh, I think Ireland is a very good player, it might be a nut off the pitch, but he's quite good on it.

KK1977
05-04-2010, 06:30 PM
His name is Stephen

stevieg
05-04-2010, 06:33 PM
We don't need him anyway.

We need money first and then when we get that we need an experienced left back, an out and out left winger who is quality and another striker.

Badman
05-04-2010, 07:10 PM
Irish players are rubbish, please stop mentioning them

Wins award for 'daftest generalisation of the year' award. I dont think stephen ireland is rubbish, or james mccarthy, or kevin doyle either. i'm pretty sure anyone over the age of 5 who has watched the premiership in the past 5-7 years would say that neither richard dunne or shay given are rubbish. but thats probably just blind patriotism from me. And some people might thing john o'shea is rubbish but i dont - and i'd say a load of our supremely gifted liverpool palyers would love a few of his 4 or 5 premier league medals too.

bryanod
05-04-2010, 11:41 PM
Well i think Stephen Ireland had 4 good months, at the start of last season, and has done little to nothing since, Jmaes McCarthy has dont nothing yet, but could develop into one, and Kevin DOyle, sweet jesus if that is your arguement i fail to go on....


There is not a single Irish Player worthy of joining our squad at this moment.

DanielSwagger89
06-04-2010, 01:49 AM
There is not a single Irish Player worthy of joining our squad at this moment.

Bit harsh considering Liverpool have a pool of 6 billion people to choose from whereas Ireland have about 4 million.

You say it as if it's Ireland's fault that they don't have better players, you can only play the cards you're dealt like.

bryanod
06-04-2010, 02:37 AM
Jaysus there isn't any from Wales either not the point, Irish players are always banded about on in this forum as answers, but they really, really aren't.

Badman
06-04-2010, 08:43 AM
my point wasnt that they'd improve liverpool. i respondede to the line 'irish players are rubbish' which is daft. have u actually watched shay given in,like, the past 10 seasons. or richard dunne in the past 5-6 years. never said anything about them joining liverpool, i was just responding to that stupid line. anyone over 4 who thinks shay given is rubbish knows sfa about football. ditto richard dunne

stevieg
06-04-2010, 09:04 AM
Well i think Stephen Ireland had 4 good months, at the start of last season, and has done little to nothing since, Jmaes McCarthy has dont nothing yet, but could develop into one, and Kevin DOyle, sweet jesus if that is your arguement i fail to go on....


There is not a single Irish Player worthy of joining our squad at this moment.

James McCarthy will be a very good player, pity we didn't get him though he is better off at Wigan now where he is guaranteed game time.

He is only 19 and has played over 100 times for Hamilton and nearly 20 times for Wigan - so he hasn't done nothing yet.

mushypea
06-04-2010, 09:39 AM
Over-hyped head-case.

Why!?!

Irish players are rubbish, please stop mentioning them.


What a joke of a post.

Dunne, Doyle, Duff, Keane, & one of the best goal Keepers in Europe Shay Given are all good footballers some excellant.

Phil!
06-04-2010, 09:44 AM
Wouldnt fancy Ireland tbh. He is decent but as others have said where would ya play him and dont think signing another winger/centre midfielder should be our priority until we get a left back and a striker in. And if there was a few games on the trot that he didnt play I think his ego would get the better of him and he'd be mouthin in the press which we do not need anymore of.

bobby benitez
06-04-2010, 10:28 AM
I'd swap him for Aquilani in a heartbeat. In the 2-2 draw at Anfield he was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch.

Bren100
06-04-2010, 12:20 PM
IMO Steven Ireland is a great, if weird, player, and given the chance if we had the funds id snap him up in a second, dont think he fits into Mancini's style of play, any one else share my opinion

Discuss

He'd play well in a 5 man midfield. I think he can play on the right but not regulary - do a job kinda thing. But IMO 5 man midfield. Kinda like where Gerrard likes to play.

Paul
06-04-2010, 01:42 PM
There is not a single Irish Player worthy of joining our squad at this moment.

Richard Dunne is one i would have taken last summer.

Paul
06-04-2010, 01:44 PM
Bit harsh considering Liverpool have a pool of 6 billion people to choose from whereas Ireland have about 4 million.

You say it as if it's Ireland's fault that they don't have better players, you can only play the cards you're dealt like.

Have you heard of the grandparent rule :D

pajodublin
06-04-2010, 02:15 PM
I'd swap him for Aquilani in a heartbeat. In the 2-2 draw at Anfield he was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch.

thats a bit knee jerk
we've seen aqualani for few games and already people judge
I think he has looked good in his cameos so far.
Maybe jumping the gun here but i think he might be an importnat player for us

I like Stephen Ireland, but i just cant see him fitting into our system
Squad player at best

bobby benitez
06-04-2010, 02:36 PM
thats a bit knee jerk
we've seen aqualani for few games and already people judge
I think he has looked good in his cameos so far.
Maybe jumping the gun here but i think he might be an importnat player for us

I like Stephen Ireland, but i just cant see him fitting into our system
Squad player at best

Don’t agree mate. It’s swapping 1 talented central midfielder with physiological problems for 1 talented central midfielder with physiological problems; only 1 is not injured and speaks English.

DanielSwagger89
06-04-2010, 02:39 PM
Have you heard of the grandparent rule :D

Haha fair point! :D

pajodublin
06-04-2010, 02:50 PM
Don’t agree mate. It’s swapping 1 talented central midfielder with physiological problems for 1 talented central midfielder with physiological problems; only 1 is not injured and speaks English.

well in my opinion, Aqualani has more talent than Ireland.
again, Just my opinion

Con
06-04-2010, 02:52 PM
well in my opinion, Aqualani has more talent than Ireland.
again, Just my opinion

Not sure what you're basing that on but god I hope you are right

Pimboli
06-04-2010, 03:13 PM
I'd swap him for Aquilani in a heartbeat. In the 2-2 draw at Anfield he was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch.

Id have to agree with you on that Ireland is proven at Premiership level and I doubt Aquilani will ever be the Alonso replacement people want him to be or someone else would have taken a punt on him but i'd see him probably playing in the hole behind Torres where Stevie plays right now so I dont see where he would fit in.

Plus I think he is a complete tanker, and the reason he shaved his head is so it fits easier up his own arse!

pajodublin
06-04-2010, 03:14 PM
Id have to agree with you on that Ireland is proven at Premiership level and I doubt Aquilani will ever be the Alonso replacement people want him to be or someone else would have taken a punt on him but i'd see him probably playing in the hole behind Torres where Stevie plays right now so I dont see where he would fit in.

Plus I think he is a complete tanker, and the reason he shaved his head is so it fits easier up his own arse!

i laughed :)

pajodublin
06-04-2010, 03:16 PM
Not sure what you're basing that on but god I hope you are right

Youtube is your friend

Just messing, in all seriousness, in what i'd seen before we signed him (which admittedly wasnt much 4 or 5 matches on TV) and what ive seen so far, i like the cut of his jib

Pimboli, he's not an alonso replacement... just thought i'd throw that in the mix

bryanod
17-04-2010, 01:53 PM
His workrate and tracking back for the united goal today sums him up.

northside red
17-04-2010, 04:18 PM
Thought that too and the robbie keane hand waving thing after, do they work on this during the gettogethers at Malahide

Fantana
17-04-2010, 04:54 PM
Was definitely at fault for ManUre winner today. Just stood in no mans land and watched Scholes pull away completely unmarked. His defensive ability wouldn't be what we would by him for but he was only on the pitch 10 mins. Can't blame tiredness for switching off. Also agree with earlier point re Aqua not being xabi replacement. Totally different players. I think with a manager who believes in him he could be the type of off the cuff forward thinking midfielder we've been lacking for a long time. But Rafa seems to have taken a dislike to him and shows no faith in him. He's either on the bench or taken off after 62mins no matter how he's playing whereas others are given chance after chance despite error ridden performances. How could anyone perform whilst being treated like that? Anyway, would take Ireland but not for more than 7-8million

carramagic
17-04-2010, 05:50 PM
Don't like him at all. He's a talented guy but can go missing in matches and doesn't impose himself enough to play regularly in the centre and hence gets moved out wide. Think he's a bit of a muppet too so hope we don't sign him

up the pool
18-04-2010, 12:49 PM
christ that christian bale had a super game yesterday would be a super signing left back or left mid also johnson for man city is a fine player we can at least dream:D

dubit10
18-04-2010, 02:54 PM
Don't get all the Stephen Ireland love that goes around. He's an average workhorse who seems to have a lack of marbles up top. Sure he does'nt even start regulary for City so how would he be good enough for us?

dubit10
18-04-2010, 02:55 PM
christ that christian bale had a super game yesterday would be a super signing left back or left mid also johnson for man city is a fine player we can at least dream:D

Christian Bale.:D Is'nt he an actor

rev
18-04-2010, 03:01 PM
Christian Bale.:D Is'nt he an actor

Think he's Batman :D

up the pool
18-04-2010, 03:22 PM
oops my bad i of coarse ment garath:D

clayton
18-04-2010, 06:23 PM
i don't want this creep near our club

Bren100
19-04-2010, 04:23 PM
He really is an idiot though - like, a proper idiot.

glen
19-04-2010, 06:22 PM
in all fairness lads theres not one irish player good enough for liverpool at the minute of best player was keane and look where he is now ...yes a great club but a bad team and a bad league

serpheus
19-04-2010, 06:34 PM
in all fairness lads theres not one irish player good enough for liverpool at the minute of best player was keane and look where he is now ...yes a great club but a bad team and a bad league
Richard Dunne, Damien Duff and Kevin Doyle i would take no problem.

bryanod
19-04-2010, 07:48 PM
God I hope you are joking.

carlowguy32
19-04-2010, 10:02 PM
Richard Dunne, Damien Duff and Kevin Doyle i would take no problem.

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clayton
20-04-2010, 08:07 AM
See Celtic fans voted Robbie Keane as their player of the year, and he's only at the club 5 minutes.

clayton
20-04-2010, 08:08 AM
Richard Dunne, Damien Duff and Kevin Doyle i would take no problem.

+ 2

serpheus
20-04-2010, 08:09 AM
God I hope you are joking.
Im not. Dunne is a better central defender than any we have, Duff is a better winger and Doyle would make a decent replacement when Torres is injured.

Pimboli
20-04-2010, 08:14 AM
Dunne would be a decent signing as he is experienced, Duff not so sure but Doyle would definately be good back up to Torres as he would get much better service than at Wolves

clayton
20-04-2010, 08:28 AM
out of all 3, Doyle would be the least likely to sign as i am sure he would have a chat with robbie keane about it, plus he knows torres will be first choice striker and that he would find himself on the bench quite a bit.

But Doyle, is the type of player that Rafa normally admires. hard working etc.

ROCCO
21-04-2010, 10:32 AM
+ 2

-10

Kev03
21-04-2010, 12:03 PM
Yes I think Kevin Doyle if the money was right for Wolves would get a Transfer and I would like to see him in Liverpool.

GaryMc
21-04-2010, 12:12 PM
Fulham got a bargain with Duff last summer, think his best days are behind him. Dunne was a great signing by O Neill last year, he would walk into our defence at the moment. Doyle would instantly become the second choice striker, however if we are talking long term we need better than all three to improve. Its all depends on finance, at the moment we can't even afford Kevin Kilbane.

Kev03
21-04-2010, 02:05 PM
'We can't even afford Kevin Kilbane' when I read this I laughed and now as a Liverpool fan I feel all dirty, I shouldn't be laughing at that but caught unawares I did as it is funny but has it really come to this - we can't afford Kevin Kilbane . . . . shit now i'm depressed so i'll switch over to the funny thread . . . .

bono
21-04-2010, 04:06 PM
Kevin Doyle how many goals has he scored this season from open play?

ROCCO
22-04-2010, 07:45 AM
Kevin Doyle how many goals has he scored this season from open play?

None .. 7 in total ..... but thats 25% of their total goals ....

The 7 were from open play ..... think Wolves only got 1 peno all season score by Blake ..

aidancorley
22-04-2010, 09:01 AM
I Agree with Mushypea, Shay is up there with the Best and Dunne is Villa

garyc
22-04-2010, 11:26 AM
See Celtic fans voted Robbie Keane as their player of the year, and he's only at the club 5 minutes.

Not that surprising really..............have you seen celtic play recently??

glen
22-04-2010, 12:19 PM
Richard Dunne, Damien Duff and Kevin Doyle i would take no problem.they would be all squad players if we did dunne wouldnt get ahead of carra or agger doyle would be on the bench because of nando and duff might have a chance but the way we play we dont have winger we have players like maxi and benni

travis
22-04-2010, 12:23 PM
I'd take Duff in a shot , better than any winger we have at the club now.

Niall
06-05-2010, 02:06 PM
Stephen Ireland has admitted he is unsure of his long-term future at Manchester City.
The 23-year-old's career at City has been the subject of conjecture after failing to hold down a place in Roberto Mancini's plans.
Ireland has completed 90 minutes for City only twice since Mancini replaced Mark Hughes in December.
Skysports.com understands Liverpool are one of a number of clubs monitoring Ireland's situation at Eastlands and the talented midfielder admits there are doubts over his future.
"There is a question mark over next year for me," Ireland told the Manchester Evening News.
"I don't know what will happen. I am contracted to City and all I can do is carry on doing my job and performing well when I am called upon.
"If anything changes during the summer it will be down to the club, not me."
Ireland admits he has been frustrated with his lack of regular action this season
"It has been a difficult year because I care so much about my job," added Ireland.
"I care about my game and about the club but there is a lot of frustration bottled up because I have not played as much as I would have liked."

mickdel
06-05-2010, 02:16 PM
Tink if u got him on a bosman be squad player....

Gerry
06-05-2010, 02:24 PM
For the Love of Fowler will you please stop using Text Speak !

mickdel
06-05-2010, 02:28 PM
For the Love of Fowler will you please stop using Text Speak !

Sory Gerry...just hard when your trying to write something....:rolleyes:

Con
06-05-2010, 02:30 PM
they would be all squad players if we did dunne wouldnt get ahead of carra or agger doyle would be on the bench because of nando and duff might have a chance but the way we play we dont have winger we have players like maxi and benni

Going on this season I'd have him ahead of both of them

bobby benitez
06-05-2010, 02:33 PM
Anyone notice his corporate box last night " Ireland Superman" he called it, over the shoulder of Glen Hoddle last night in the Sly Sports studio. Wack ball but quaility player.

Ron1892
06-05-2010, 02:51 PM
Who's place will he take??

We have a 20 Mill pound player in that Position who i think will be better than Ireland, so we dont need him..We have more important positions and things to worry about than this fcuking Nutjob.Next please..

redabbey
06-05-2010, 03:04 PM
I think the above rumour should be in the 'makey up' story thread.

Ron1892
06-05-2010, 03:11 PM
I think the above rumour should be in the 'makey up' story thread.

Spot on Lionel..Its going to be a very long thread, that one, i think..

7Cannibal-9Asbo
06-05-2010, 03:33 PM
Who's place will he take??

We have a 20 Mill pound player in that Position who i think will be better than Ireland, so we dont need him..We have more important positions and things to worry about than this fcuking Nutjob.Next please..

This is very true, we have plenty of central midfielders at the moment and no central midfielder looking for first team action is going to come to us. He's a great player, no doubting that, but along the list of our priorities in the transfer market at the moment he doesn't really feature.