Eastenders tonight

[Gerry]

Only overheard it from the next room but they mentioned heysel and hillsborough tonight and made a reference to hooliganism, what the fu*k are they up too ! did anyone see it ??

[LFC Barry]

What exactly was said mate?

If the BBC mentioned Hillsborough and hooliganism together they are very stupid

[liamo3]

They are running a hooligan story line and made out Heysel as a reason for banning and Hillsborough as a reason to Stop voilence idiots its bordering on the stereo type "look them scousers again"

[pam]

Fecking disgrace.. I saw it nearly got sick, how dare they, BBC SHAME SHAME ON YOU.

[sean]

This is unbelievable - whoever is responsible for letting this be screened to the nation should hang their head in shame and suffer the consequences - f**king disgrace.

[liamo3]

Are we really surrprised this is the same BBC that gives constant air time to McKenzie even though 100's upon 100's off complaints they even have him lined up for Sports relief next year yes thats right, Kelvin McKenzie for Sports relief! I don't think they liked our little truth day protest meself

[liamo3]

Here is the transcript

Minty" I once saw a row on a train two firms, horrible. I'm a big bloke and not alot bothers me but it was terrifying women and kids and all caught up in it,them two firms all beered up kicking and punching and they didn't care who got in their way aren't you ashamed of that"
Manc " I wasn't there.....

Minty " 5 years out of Europe cos of Heysel cos they penned you in, to stop you fighting on the pitch so then what do we end up with Hillsborough"

Manc "Heysel Hillsborough both those tragedies broke my heart what we got up to was a world apart, only people who wanted to be there were there....
Minty "what possible pleasure could you get out of that...........


Disgrace imo implies hillsborough was an act of of hoolies

[stamullenredmen]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/make_complaint_step1.shtml

is it still shown on any irish channels??i was working myself but got a text off a mate telling me he heard it what a disgrace

[Aido82]

saw the re run there

couldnt believe it either

[SUPERFAN]

here it is Lads...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og03odqOWsg

[Garrett]

Give 'em hell lads !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/

( and pass this link on, at any other Reds website you visit too ! )

[megager]

Strong Email sent.

I cant believe that. Thankfully i never watch that shit so thankfully didnt see it live ( if i had id have put a boot through my new tv).

BBC, liars. absolute disgrace to the 96 who lost their lives. Im still in shock!!!

[GaryMc]

I watch it the very odd time, not anymore that's for sure

[RedMurph08]

Strong Email sent.

I cant believe that. Thankfully i never watch that shit so thankfully didnt see it live ( if i had id have put a boot through my new tv).

BBC, liars. absolute disgrace to the 96 who lost their lives. Im still in shock!!!

Likewise; Scumbags!

[Yoko]

What about Ofcom??

[trucker]

Give 'em hell lads !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/

( and pass this link on, at any other Reds website you visit too ! )

Done

[Pimboli]

What about Ofcom??

Yeah Ofcom is the way to complain if you want to get heard, direct to the BBC will get no response.

[sean]

Yeah Ofcom is the way to complain if you want to get heard, direct to the BBC will get no response.

Link to Ofcom complaints for whoever wants it

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/complain/progs/specific/?itemid=286480

[Yoko]

BBC defend Enders' Hillsborough reference
Wednesday, November 14 2007, 17:49 GMT

By Kris Green, Soaps Editor


The BBC has today apolgised to any viewers who may have misinterpreted a line in last night's EastEnders episode which referenced Hillsborough.

A line delivered by the one of the programme's characters, Minty Peterson – played by Cliff Parisi – has sparked outrage amongst Liverpool fans who construed it to be equating football hooliganism to the Hillsborough disaster of 1989.

The line in question saw Minty reply say to the show's former-football hooligan character Jase Dyer (Stephen Lord): "Five years out of Europe because of Heysel, because they penned you lot in to stop you fighting on the pitch, and then what did we end up with – Hillsborough."

Members of the Hillsborough Family Support Group (HFSG) claim that scriptwriters' reference was irrelevant. One said: "Hillsborough was proven not to be hooliganism. Do the BBC not realise 96 people died and many families are still suffering?"

Similarly, fans on the official Liverpool FC website have also criticised the soap's decision to include such a line, with one suggesting it was an "ignorant, ill-informed and without justification reference to Hillsborough."

However, a spokeswoman for the BBC today told Digital Spy: "In last night's EastEnders, Minty was actually reminding Jase that football hooliganism at Heysel led directly to the fencing-in of fans at football matches.

"He points out that this had tragic consequences - for the innocent spectators at Hillsborough. The BBC apologises if this remark was misinterpreted or caused any offence."

[stamullenredmen]

now im only 24 so i obviously cant speak from personal experience but lads over on raotl pointed out pens were up in the 70's well before heysel

[Yoko]

Reply I received from the BBC


Thank you for your recent e-mail.

In this week's edition of 'EastEnders' (Nov 13, BBC One) Minty was actually reminding Jase that football hooliganism such as Heysel led directly to the fencing-in of fans at football matches.

He points out that this had tragic consequences for the innocent spectators at Hillsborough. He said: "Five years out of Europe because of Heysel, because they penned you lot in to stop you fighting on the pitch, and then what did we end up with - Hillsborough." The BBC apologises if this remark was misinterpreted or caused any offence.

Nevertheless, I fully appreciate that you feel strongly about this matter. Therefore I would like to assure you that we have registered your comments on our audience log. This is the internal report of audience feedback which we compile daily for all programme makers and commissioning executives within the BBC, and also their senior management. It ensures that your points, and all other comments we receive, are circulated and considered across the BBC.

Thank you again for taking the time to contact the BBC.

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