Budget 2010

[GaryMc]

When is this going to be announced. I would say it is going to be a rough day. :(

[sean]

This day next week Gary, gonna be a rough one alright. If public sector get their way the government are going to have to go to plan B which won't be pretty

[born red 79]

What's plan B?

[south]

What's plan B?

take from everyone else

[SUPERFAN]

What's plan B?

http://www.insideireland.ie/uploads/image/Sports/crokestory.jpg

[GaryMc]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1394/1110917903_e3b6414c4b.jpg

[Anfield Old Boys]

This day next week Gary, gonna be a rough one alright. If public sector get their way the government are going to have to go to plan B which won't be pretty

take from everyone else

I have a better idea, why dont FF get the tax back from this greedy shower that they looked after?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1202/revenue.html

Property developers were able to avail of a special lower rate of income tax of 20%, it has emerged this evening.

The Revenue Commissioners said the special rate of tax ended in January 2009.

The 'Special Incentive Tax Rate' was introduced in the Finance Act in the year 2000.

AdvertisementThe Revenue Commissioners said: 'The measure was intended to address the problem of a shortage of residential accommodation by increasing the supply of land for residential development.'

It applied to profits made from undeveloped land, partly developed or serviced land and land with completed houses.

Without this provision the property developers would have been liable to normal rates of 41% income tax.

The tax measure was confirmed to RTÉ News this evening following an inquiry to the Revenue Commissioners.

Earlier this year, the Government introduced an 80% windfall tax on gains made from the sale of rezoned land as part of legislation to establish the National Asset Management Agency.

[CrazyHorse]

If public sector get their way...

Care to elaborate?

[sean]

Care to elaborate?

I'm referring to the talks going on between public sector unions and the government that are trying to bash out €1.3bn in savings. If union bosses fight the corner in the right way for the public sector then the goverment will have to fcuk off and find their money somewhere else won't they? Or am I missing something blantantly obvious here? Don't let anyone take me up the wrong way btw, I'm all for both public and private sector employees getting a fair deal here with nobody being shafted but unfortunatley thats pure fantasy talk.

[Pimboli]

I'm referring to the talks going on between public sector unions and the government that are trying to bash out €1.3bn in savings. If union bosses fight the corner in the right way for the public sector then the goverment will have to fcuk off and find their money somewhere else won't they? Or am I missing something blantantly obvious here? Don't let anyone take me up the wrong way btw, I'm all for both public and private sector employees getting a fair deal here with nobody being shafted but unfortunatley thats pure fantasy talk.

The fact is if Cowan and co relent and give in to the public sector after all their posturing that the cuts were happening and that was the bottom line they may as well call a general election as it means that the trade unions are running the country and not the government.

Either way everyone is going to get shafted next week.

[padski08]

Either way everyone is going to get shafted next week.

I dont want either Public or Private sector to get more of a bashing, but i want a fair budget :rolleyes:

Not a chance this will happen but i agree Pimboli, we will all be shafted next week. Tighten your belts

[wertyu]

We have a Taoiseach who talks like Rambo but acts like Bambi that's the best statment out of that place i've heard all year :D

[CrazyHorse]

We have a Taoiseach who talks like Rambo but acts like Bambi that's the best statment out of that place i've heard all year :D

Funny that our last Numero uno was more like Bambi and went in to everything like Rambo!!

Cowen has had it bad from the start in fairness, it was the hand he was dealt after Bertie's shambolic ruination of everything good that COULD have become of a strong economy for the best part of a decade.

Re: Sean...
I would prefer if both sectors got shafted m8....
The divide that was created by the gov/media/people NOT in the know, has been more a harming factor than a good one imo.

[GaryMc]

Enda Kenny is some gobsheen. We are heading into the most drastic cuts in the nations history and he is talking about counting frogs.

''The Opposition is today questioning how €125,000 can be spent on a report to count the number of frogs in the country.

The Taoiseach has blamed the Opposition saying it was they who introduced the Habitat Directive when last in Government. ''

[rushiekop]

Cowen has had it bad from the start in fairness, it was the hand he was dealt after Bertie's shambolic ruination of everything good that COULD have become of a strong economy for the best part of a decade.

He was minister for finance from 2004 so its not like he had no hand in the situtation he finds himself in.

[Juan]

I will be awaiting the job stimulus package, that the government will come up with. (they do have one,dont they?)
Well i remember the Vote yes to Lisbon posters..and seeing there heads on telly every day..begging us to vote yes,because yes=jobs.
wishful thinking i guess:)

on a brighter note... these people that are responsible for this mess,will have to knock on doors for votes again.
please god let me see that day.

[windhover]

He was minister for finance from 2004 so its not like he had no hand in the situtation he finds himself in.

Chalk it down!!!

[bobby benitez]

I will be awaiting the job stimulus package, that the government will come up with. (they do have one,dont they?)
Well i remember the Vote yes to Lisbon posters..and seeing there heads on telly every day..begging us to vote yes,because yes=jobs.
wishful thinking i guess:)

on a brighter note... these people that are responsible for this mess,will have to knock on doors for votes again.
please god let me see that day.

No they wont, they can retire on their big fat state pensions :(

[Rover 609]

On a lighter note,excise on drink been reduced by 20%

[Pimboli]

No they wont, they can retire on their big fat state pensions :(

Thats the thing like all the bank management that fcuked up any that left, left with a golden handshake, actually given a bonus for fcuking up and a huge salary while the average joe lose their jobs, their homes and have to scrimp and save to get by.

[Juan]

No they wont, they can retire on their big fat state pensions :(
your right...... ill just have to take the bat to their successors when they knock so.

[byrnetred]

No they wont, they can retire on their big fat state pensions :(

was listening to the radio a few weeks ago and someone was on from the indo talking about local councilers and he was saying that some lad from galway frauded the local council into building a fence around his house and got caught and guess what voted number 1 in the local elections in june

another example in sligo of a counciler who actually spent 2 years in prison for fraud also got elected number 1 in june

a few months ago when o'donoghue got the boot (resigned) they where interviewing local people in south kerry and the vast majority of the people said they would vote for him again

nothing will change unless the attitude of the irish people change

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/convicted-councillor-stroke-fahy-tops-the-vote-1765362.html

http://www.westernpeople.ie/news/story/?trs=eymhqlauey

[NiallD]

was listening to the radio a few weeks ago and someone was on from the indo talking about local councilers and he was saying that some lad from galway frauded the local council into building a fence around his house and got caught and guess what voted number 1 in the local elections in june

another example in sligo of a counciler who actually spent 2 years in prison for fraud also got elected number 1 in june

a few months ago when o'donoghue got the boot (resigned) they where interviewing local people in south kerry and the vast majority of the people said they would vote for him again

nothing will change unless the attitude of the irish people change

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/convicted-councillor-stroke-fahy-tops-the-vote-1765362.html

http://www.westernpeople.ie/news/story/?trs=eymhqlauey

Nail on the head there unforunately. Politicans get away with corruption and incompetance because we allow them to. Part of the blame for the state for things has to fall on society.

[Benbecul97]

There is lots of talk about it being ok to take the pain as long as its "fair".

Well for me the "fairest" way is to only apply todays budget cuts to those in the 40ish% of the population that have voted FF for the last 12 years - and particularly 2 years ago!!!!:D

[paulwex]

what time is budget being announced? prob when they all get out of bed sometime in the afternoon?:D

[Benbecul97]

what time is budget being announced? prob when they all get out of bed sometime in the afternoon?:D

3.45pm
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1203/budget2010_coverage_on_rte.html

[Aido82]

from the indo

ALCOHOL prices will be reduced and a new car scrappage scheme will be announced as two minor sweeteners in today's draconian Budget 2010.

But the Government will still face a wave of public fury over swingeing cutbacks, including those to child benefit and social welfare payments.

The Coalition is planning to rush through the cuts to social welfare payments to prevent Fianna Fail backbenchers from being forced into a climbdown.

Petrol and diesel will go up by 4c a litre by midnight tonight, but motorists will also get the chance to buy a new car slightly cheaper, with the introduction of a scrappage scheme for bangers. The price of a pint is also set to fall, possibly by about 10c, as Finance Minister Brian Lenihan cuts the excise duty on alcohol by up to 20pc.

Mr Lenihan strangely claimed last night his speech this afternoon was "going to be the last of the very difficult Budgets". The minister said his Budget needed to "give hope to this economy".

The Government is going to rush the passing of cuts in social welfare through a Dail vote tomorrow to prevent any Fianna Fail backbenchers being lobbied to vote against the cuts when they go home to their constituencies this weekend.

Taoiseach Brian Cowen yesterday said the legislation bringing in the social welfare changes, including a 10pc cut to child benefit, would be put in place tonight or early tomorrow to allow it to be debated the day after the Budget.

Mr Cowen said the Social Welfare Bill would be passed by Friday and a vote on carbon tax would also be taken that day.

The Taoiseach said the legislation to bring in the €1.3bn in cuts to the public sector pay bill would be passed next week.

The Cabinet yesterday agreed the €4bn in cuts and savings to be announced by Mr Lenihan this afternoon. The Budget document has now gone to the printers and ministers will formally sign off on its contents at a special Cabinet meeting at 8am this morning.

The new carbon tax will cause an immediate impact on car fuel, with a rise in the price of petrol and diesel.

But motorists who want to upgrade their cars will benefit from a car scrappage scheme -- provided they are buying an environmentally friendly motor.

Where somebody trades in a car over 10 years old for scrappage, the Government will offer around €1,500 off the Vehicle Registration Tax on their new car. But this new car will have to have low emissions, putting it in tax bands A or B. These cars already attract the lowest road tax and VRT levels and are highly fuel efficient.

Cars that emit up to 120gms of CO2 every kilometre fall into Band A and attract a VRT rate of 14pc and owners pay €104 a year road tax.

Those in Band B with emissions between 121gms and 140gms have a VRT rate of 16pc -- and road tax of €156.

Many smaller cars, especially those with diesel engines, fall into these categories and will be prime targets for buyers under the new scheme.

Excise duty on alcohol will also be cut substantially as the minister aims to stem the flow of shoppers across the border.

A number of measures will be introduced with immediate effect through votes in the Dail tonight.

The carbon tax will mean a litre of petrol will go up by 4c and diesel by a similar amount.

But the increases in home heating fuels will be staved off until next spring to avoid an adverse hit on homeowners.

The Government believes it would not be possible for householders to stock up on fuel before the price hike comes in.

Under the plan, 1,000 litres of home heating oil will go up by about €40, a bale of briquettes by 35c, and a tonne of coal by €42. Timber blocks won't be affected by the new tax.


Tax

The €500m raised from the carbon tax will be partly ring-fenced to be pumped back into providing extra fuel allowances for the poor and the elderly.

There will also be funding for councils to improve the insulation in local authority houses and schemes for private houseowners to cut down on their fuel usage.

The drinks sector has repeatedly called on the Government to reduce excise rates on spirits to stem the tide of shoppers heading to the North.

Excise receipts from spirit sales have slumped by over 26pc in the past year, with bottles of spirits sometimes up to €10 cheaper over the border.

Vintners Federation of Ireland representative Con Dennehy said the price cut would "most definitely" be passed on to the customer. He said it would be a positive move for sales in pubs and keeping off-sales from going up North.

Mr Cowen said the Government had to proceed with the legislation as there wasn't much time at the back end of the Budget as would have been the case in previous times.

Twelve other European countries have already introduced car scrappage schemes with positive results. The scrappage scheme in Britain has turned a 30.5pc decline in sales in March into a 6pc increase in August; while Germany's scheme saw an increase of 18pc in sales for the first quarter of 2009.

- Fionnan Sheahan, Aine Kerr and Patricia McDonagh

Irish Independent

[wertyu]

Why the hell is there a new car scrappage scheme will be announced when Ireland don't make cars in this country, am I right??

[Benbecul97]

Petrol and diesel will go up by 4c a litre by midnight tonight, but motorists will also get the chance to buy a new car slightly cheaper, with the introduction of a scrappage scheme for bangers. The price of a pint is also set to fall, possibly by about 10c, as Finance Minister Brian Lenihan cuts the excise duty on alcohol by up to 20pc.


So the sweetner for most amounts to "here's 10c off the price of a pint...oh but you will now need that same 10c to help pay for 2.5 litres of petrol" yeah right, some sweetner!! :rolleyes:

[byrnetred]

Why the hell is there a new car scrappage scheme will be announced when Ireland don't make cars in this country, am I right?? it makes perfect sence since the car dealers will sell cars and keep people employed + the government will raise money through vat & vrt

+ it keeps the greens happy in getting old bold cars off the road

[Pimboli]

So the sweetner for most amounts to "here's 10c off the price of a pint...oh but you will now need that same 10c to help pay for 2.5 litres of petrol" yeah right, some sweetner!! :rolleyes:

Its all about swings and roundabouts, for people who dont drink they are losing out but for those that do and have a car they are breaking even on that score.

Drink, Petrol and Cigarettes are things that people put their hand in their pocket to pay for so its more noticable than extra tax that is gone out of your pay before it ever gets to you.

[Dublin Red]

So the sweetner for most amounts to "here's 10c off the price of a pint...oh but you will now need that same 10c to help pay for 2.5 litres of petrol" yeah right, some sweetner!! :rolleyes:

Also, if you're saving 10c on the few pints, you shouldn't be driving down the pub anyway, hence saving on petrol and petrol costs too :)

[elvis]

Also, if you're saving 10c on the few pints, you shouldn't be driving down the pub anyway, hence saving on petrol and petrol costs too :)

And its also good for the environment! ;)

[Aido82]

right, are we all ready to shafted

[Juan]

right, are we all ready to shafted

Ive got my saddle on...and ready, to be rode to jerusalem!

[vincenzo]

stop waffling Brian and just give us the worst

[Benbecul97]

stop waffling Brian and just give us the worst

he's just letting you the reasons why he is going to shaft you!!!!:D

[Ron1892]

Lets get ready for war...There will be madness i reckon in a few minutes..

[LFC_Mark]

This will not be nice

[Juan]

irish judges, are the second higest paid judges in the world.
yet their pay cant be reduced,because its enshrined in the constitution. (whos responsible for that?)
lenihan is relying on them to give some back voluntry,
what a joke.

[vincenzo]

Cowens salary down by 30%. The rest of them by 25%

[Shay]

Cowens salary down by 30%. The rest of them by 25%

Proper order

[vincenzo]

irish judges, are the second higest paid judges in the world.
yet their pay cant be reduced,because its enshrined in the constitution. (whos responsible for that?)
lenihan is relying on them to give some back voluntry,
what a joke.
I worked in the new criminal courts in the Phoenix park. The judges chambers are like 5 star hotel rooms. Sickening

[LFC_Mark]

Cowens salary down by 30%. The rest of them by 25%

Cowens should have been at least half ..he earns more than barack obama ffs..at least they are takin a hit aswell i suppose

[vincenzo]

jobseekers allowance reduced to €100 for new applicants aged 20-21, €150 for those aged 22-24

Edit: the above applies to those without children

[Benbecul97]

jobseekers allowance reduced to €100 for new applicants aged 20-21, €150 for those aged 22-24

Child Benefit
down €16 to €150 per month

Public Servants pay
0 - €30K down 5%
€30 - €70K down 7.5%
€70 - €125K down 10%

[Niall]

water metering for homes

[Benbecul97]

water metering for homes

and Property taxes...but thats for 2011.

[TubbyReina]

jobseekers allowance reduced to €100 for new applicants aged 20-21, €150 for those aged 22-24

Edit: the above applies to those without children

what bout 25+

[GaryMc]

Child Benefit
down €16 to €150 per month

Public Servants pay
0 - €30K down 5%
€30 - €70K down 7.5%
€70 - €125K down 10%

There will surely be strikes. I presume its incremental.
Some one on 35k will lose 5% of first 30k and 7.5% on next 5k rather than 7.5% on 35k

[vincenzo]

water metering for homes
I'm going to cut a hole in the roof and start gathering rain water. God knows we get enough

[Niall]

and Property taxes...but thats for 2011.

Both for 2011 or just the property tax?

[vincenzo]

what bout 25+
think we are ok Paddy. It says your benefit will be cut to €150 if you refuse a job offer:confused:

[Aido82]

Public Servants pay
0 - €30K down 5%


thats it tax the shite out of teh poorest people

[TubbyReina]

think we are ok Paddy. It says your benefit will be cut to €150 if you refuse a job offer:confused:

gimme a job offer first to fcukin turn down,jaysus id snap at the hands if they offered me 1

[born red 79]

gimme a job offer first to fcukin turn down,jaysus id snap at the hands if they offered me 1

+1

I'm working for free anyway so would love to be gettin a wage again!!

[Benbecul97]

There will surely be strikes. I presume its incremental.
Some one on 35k will lose 5% of first 30k and 7.5% on next 5k rather than 7.5% on 35k

Yeah it would work like that

[vincenzo]

Cowens salary down by 30%. The rest of them by 25%
although when that's looked at closer it'll probably be much less

[Benbecul97]

Both for 2011 or just the property tax?

Both property tax and water charges for 2011.

[born red 79]

Well my sister's Fcucked. 21 in a flat, lost her job and now cut to 100 a week. Rough

[Niall]

Both property tax and water charges for 2011.

Cheers. Local beach for my daily wash from 2011 so:D:D:D:D

[vincenzo]

gimme a job offer first to fcukin turn down,jaysus id snap at the hands if they offered me 1
+1

[vincenzo]

Well my sister's Fcucked. 21 in a flat, lost her job and now cut to 100 a week. Rough
its only for new applicants

[born red 79]

Tell ye what, thank god for littlewoods or there'd be no father christmas in my house this year!! Bad state of affairs all round really. Sad thing is there's people with a load of kids just as skint as me. Lucky I've only got one to buy for.

[wonit5times]

heard aswell that interest relief on mortgages will be no more by the end of 2017 long way off yet i know but....

[Aido82]

they really kicked everyone

[Aido82]

- Introduction in 2011 of two charges on income to be paid by all at a low rate. Progressive rates will be paid by those on higher incomes

- Domiciled individuals will be required to pay a €200,000 domiciled levy, regardless of where they are registered for tax purposes

- Salary of Taoiseach to be reduced by 20pc, salaries of Ministers to be reduced by 15pc

- Introduction of carbon tax will lead to an increase in the cost of petrol and diesel.

- No reduction in judicial pay, the Consitution did not allow this

- Public servants salary reduction: 5% for first €30,000k of salary, 7.5% on next €40,000 10% on next €50,000

- Minimum pension age for new public servants is 66

- Review of public service pensions to be carried out

- Social Welfare payments: New applicant’s rates of job seeker allowance for those 20-21 years of age will be reduced to €100 per week and for those 22-24 years of age to €150 per week

- The State pension remains unchanged

- An efficiency report of Local Authorities is to be carried out

- Investment projects will focus on school building and maintenance, energy and tourism

- Increased funding for mental health projects

- A National Solidarity Bond will be introduced for small investors

- €136m to provided new training places and supports

- Flood relief: €70m to be provided in remainder of 2009 and 2010 to help victims of flooding and to prevent flooding in the future

- Excise is to be reduced on alcohol by 12c per pint of beer and cider 60c per standard bottle of wine (VAT included)

- No change to excise on tobacco due to the increases on cigarette smuggling

- €121m is to be provided for forestry and bio energy

- Corporation Tax Rate of 12.5pc will not change

- €130m is to be made available for energy efficiency measures

- Funding for a Ted Kennedy memorial at Dunganstown in Co Wexford is to be made available

[RastaRed]

Everyone in this country has just taken it up the arse from these clowns:mad:

[Paul]

what bout 25+

8 euro reduction i think.

[vincenzo]

Everyone in this country has just taken it up the arse from these clowns:mad:
except the judges

[gav003]

Main Points

Dole payments cut by €8 a week (with additional cuts for under 23s)
Child benefit (lower and higher rate) reduced by €16 per month
Excise duty on alcohol reduced - 12c cut on beer and cider, 14c cut on a measure of spirits, 16c cut on a bottle of wine
No change on tobacco tax
50c charge for every medical card prescription from April
Carbon tax of €15 per tonne
Hospital consultants will see their pay cut by up to 15%
Irish domicile levy of €200,000 per year for high net worth individuals
New 'universal social contribution', which will replace employee PRSI, the Health Levy and the Income Levy
Public servants' pensions to be linked to average salary across career, rather than final salary
Tiered pay cuts for public servants from 5% for the first €30,000, all the way up to 15% for those earning €200,000 or more
Taoiseach's salary to be reduced by 20%
Mortgage interest relief - Extended to 2018 for those who now find themselves in negative equity
Flood relief - More than €70m to be given to help victims and stop future floods
Taoiseach's salary to be cut by 20%
National Solidarity Bond aimed at small investors to be launched
Discounted rail vouchers to be given to senior citizen tourists to Ireland
Scrappage scheme announced - Get around €1,500 off your Vehicle Registration Tax on a new low-emission car, if you trade in a car at least 10 years old

[Ron1892]

gimme a job offer first to fcukin turn down,jaysus id snap at the hands if they offered me 1

I think any one who turns down a job doest deserve their 150 euro...Im unemployed and over 25,with a honours degree in marketing,and if some one offered me a job id snap the hand too...But to turn down a job in these times is madness and then to accept your 150 is unreal....

[Benbecul97]

they really kicked everyone

Everyone in this country has just taken it up the arse from these clowns:mad:

No they haven't.
Pensioners were not touched.
Judges were not touched.
Private sector workers with no kids were not touched (granted they have taken their own internal pay cuts in the last year).

[Bren100]

Child Benefit
do
Public Servants pay
0 - €30K down 5%
€30 - €70K down 7.5%
€70 - €125K down 10%

I can see this one kicking off. With all due respect to public workers, Its not easy to take but its no better in the private sector for some. Personally Ive had 10% cut from my pay and I dont get a pension paid for.

[Bren100]

Main Points

Dole payments cut by €8 a week (with additional cuts for under 23s)
Child benefit (lower and higher rate) reduced by €16 per month
Excise duty on alcohol reduced - 12c cut on beer and cider, 14c cut on a measure of spirits, 16c cut on a bottle of wine
No change on tobacco tax
50c charge for every medical card prescription from April
Carbon tax of €15 per tonne
Hospital consultants will see their pay cut by up to 15%
Irish domicile levy of €200,000 per year for high net worth individuals
New 'universal social contribution', which will replace employee PRSI, the Health Levy and the Income Levy
Public servants' pensions to be linked to average salary across career, rather than final salary
Tiered pay cuts for public servants from 5% for the first €30,000, all the way up to 15% for those earning €200,000 or more
Taoiseach's salary to be reduced by 20%
Mortgage interest relief - Extended to 2018 for those who now find themselves in negative equity
Flood relief - More than €70m to be given to help victims and stop future floods
Taoiseach's salary to be cut by 20%
National Solidarity Bond aimed at small investors to be launched
Discounted rail vouchers to be given to senior citizen tourists to Ireland
Scrappage scheme announced - Get around €1,500 off your Vehicle Registration Tax on a new low-emission car, if you trade in a car at least 10 years old

So thats 40% off the C U next tuesday!! - We all wish!

[wonit5times]

how does the carbon tax work?? How do we pay it

[Benbecul97]

heard aswell that interest relief on mortgages will be no more by the end of 2017 long way off yet i know but....

That has been exteneded by 7 years. People whose entitlement to mortgage interest relief would run out in 2010 will now continue to receive it up to the end of 2017.

[Bren100]

how does the carbon tax work?? How do we pay it


Petrol and Diesel. There will be a percentage per litre. It might be the same for Oil/Gas for your heating also.

[Aido82]

how does the carbon tax work?? How do we pay it

price will be added onto the likes of petrol, diesel, bags of coal, bricketts, gas etc

[Benbecul97]

how does the carbon tax work?? How do we pay it

You will be paying for it at the pumps tomorrow and in oil/gas next May.

[wonit5times]

cheers lads. heard the other day gas is coming down by 8% in february but the cnuts are putting that poxy tax on it now so prob stays the same.
They just take from somewhere and add on somewhere else sneeky b4stards!!

[stalker]

Efficiency and progress is ours once more
Now that we have the Neutron bomb
It's nice and quick and clean and gets things done
Away with excess enemy
But no less value to property
No sense in war but perfect sense at home:

The sun beams down on a brand new day
No more welfare tax to pay
Unsightly slums gone up in flashing light
Jobless millions whisked away
At last we have more room to play
All systems go to kill the poor tonight

Gonna
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor:Tonight

Behold the sparkle of champagne
The crime rate's gone
Feel free again
O' life's a dream with you, Miss Lily White
Jane Fonda on the screen today
Convinced the liberals it's okay
So let's get dressed and dance away the night

While they:
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor:Tonight


Wehaay.

[trucker]

Father Ted stuff that if the english media get hold of it expect headlines such as "Paddys reduce child income and social welfare so they can reduce the price of a pint", works out at around buy 40 get 1 free!

[RedPaddy]

The minimum pension age for new public servants will be increased from 65 to 66 - then linked to increases in the State pension age

jasus - they´ll eventually push it up to 70 with tax relief on your coffin as a parting gift !

[Raven136]

could you imagine if the French had budgets like this.they would be on the fcuking streets and the government wouldnt last pissing time.The same fcukers that got us into this mess are allowed to attempt to lead us out.

[bryanod]

Hahahah love Budget day, everyone has a ****in good moan.

My only complaint, not putting the price of cigs up.

[south]

Hahahah love Budget day, everyone has a ****in good moan.

My only complaint, not putting the price of cigs up.

if you don't like em don't smoke em :)

[Badman]

they were never gonna put up the price of fags coz that incentivises more crossborder smuggling etc. tough tough budget, no doubt about it...and even if lenihan says thats the worst over, i wouldn believe a word of it. its true if we were in france there'd be riots and the govt would topple, but we're way too tolerant of incompetence in thei country - the lack of any viable alternative is what has brought us to our knees. labour have zero leadership experience and would try to swing us way too far to the left, fine gael and kenny are laughable coz they're more obsessed with spin doctoring and medial celebrity tds and have offered little in terms of an alternative...thats why fine fail still in. the bottom line is that the rich millionaires and those earning over 250000 contribute just 55m while the other 3.995billion comes from low to moderate income earning public servants and of course those unfortunates who are on social welfare. thas criminally biased and proves conclusively that even still on the brink of a depression th tfine fail are still t he ultimae 'rich mans buddy'

[stamullenredmen]

i actually thought the whole thing would be worse but he couldve went further than a half % on the VAT and the cut in the public sector is a right kick in the behind for the lower earners

[edcarroll02]

Well the budget wasn't actually too bad on me to be fair, petrol went up and booze went down so as long as i keep my drinking higher than my driving i could even save a few pennies! Could have been a lot worse and a drop in the VAT rate might make a bit of an impact on the hoardes heading north but its probably not enough to change peoples opinions on that!

I didn't have to wait for the budget for my paycut either, that came last february and again in july, it was hard to take but there really was nothing i could do and i guess i was just lucky not to be one of the many that lost their jobs in my office.

[bossman]

If the judges in this country had any kind of morals they would offer up a reduction themselves ,like everyone else has had to take some kind of hit , the pedo judge in kerry has not sat for about 3 years and is still on full pay it,s a disgraceful carry on with the way things are now .