Lyon at Home CL

[bobby benitez]

After 3 defeats on the bounce with hardly a decent effort on goal, I think its fair to say we need a win. In saying that I would still leave Gerrard and Torres out of it and protect them for the biggest match of a generation on Sunday.

Reina
Johnson Agger Carra Insua

Babel Masch Lucas Riera

Benni
Kuyt

Hopefully if the 2 lads are fit we can stick them on the bench and leave them there :)

[fermoyred80]

After 3 defeats on the bounce with hardly a decent effort on goal, I think its fair to say we need a win. In saying that I would still leave Gerrard and Torres out of it and protect them for the biggest match of a generation on Sunday.

Reina
Johnson Agger Carra Insua

Babel Masch Lucas Riera

Benni
Kuyt

Hopefully if the 2 lads are fit we can stick them on the bench and leave them there :)

No pressure then

[carpe diem]

lyon having troubles of their own.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/90/france/2009/10/17/1567155/olympique-lyonnais-0-2-sochaux-goals-from-marvin-martin

[AthloneScouser]

The preassure inside Anfield will be unreal i think. Lyon are a good team, and will be interesting to see how the lads handle this much preassure especially if Stevie and Torres are not starting.

[barrydoherty]

If Torres and Gerrard and are fit I would play them, Lyon is going be tough game and if we don't pick up 3 points its going be hard with away to lyon next game

[gowinit6times]

This is a massive game for us now. Realistically the Champions League should be our focus now because i don't envisage us winning the League from this position. If Torres and Gerard are fit they have to play. It's unthinkable that we could lose 4 games on the spin, however Lyon are a good side and should we draw or lose this one then we are under real pressure to qualify from the group.

[byrnetred]

3 points a must here, the last thing we want is having to go to lyon needing a win

[Yoko]

Absolute must win. CL is our best chance of a trophy now

[elvis]

Lisandro is still out injured I think which is a boost for us, he's class,. This is a must win,. But so is the Sc*m game, if we lose to them we are 10 points off, if we beat them we are 4points behind and with some momentum, and the toughest games behind us, this month was always going to be a nightmare.

EDIT: Gerrard and Torres should start, try and in the game early and then take the off and give them a rest for the Sc*m.

[ROCCO]

Lisandro is still out injured I think which is a boost for us, he's class,. This is a must win,. But so is the Sc*m game, if we lose to them we are 10 points off, if we beat them we are 4points behind and with some momentum, and the toughest games behind us, this month was always going to be a nightmare.

EDIT: Gerrard and Torres should start, try and in the game early and then take the off and give them a rest for the Sc*m.

Played at the weekend ...

http://www.goal.com/en/match/32224/o-lyon-vs-fc-sochaux/lineup-stats

[ROCCO]

Steven Gerrard has been in training with the Liverpool squad today, ahead of tomorrow's home game with Lyon.

The Liverpool skipper missed Saturday's defeat at Sunderland with a groin problem picked up on international duty last week.

But today's news is positive and he is expected to play in tomorrow's Champions League clash.

Fernando Torres, however, did not take part in training as he tries to recover from the adductor injury that he suffered while playing for Spain.

http://www.lfconline.com/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=468653

[elvis]

Played at the weekend ...

http://www.goal.com/en/match/32224/o-lyon-vs-fc-sochaux/lineup-stats

Balls to that so,.

[ROCCO]

If Torres has a adductor injury , imo he will be out for at least another 2-3 weeks..

[john gotti]

spare ticket if anyone wants it pm me its free!

[ROCCO]

spare ticket if anyone wants it pm me its free!

Nice gesture .... pity im smashed.

[ROCCO]

Reina

Magic Carra Agger Aurelio

Masch lucas

Benayoun Gerrard Riera

kuyt

[Phil!]

Really need to bounce back and cant afford to drop points at home in Champions league. Wouldnt start Stevie and Nando but would keep them on the bench incase were struggling.

Reina
Johnson Agger Skrtel Aurelio
Macherano Lucas
Yossi Babel Riera
Kuyt

Think should rest Carra for Sunday and again need big performances from Yossi Babel and Riera!!

[AthloneScouser]

Really need to bounce back and cant afford to drop points at home in Champions league. Wouldnt start Stevie and Nando but would keep them on the bench incase were struggling.

Reina
Johnson Agger Skrtel Aurelio
Macherano Lucas
Yossi Babel Riera
Kuyt

Think should rest Carra for Sunday and again need big performances from Yossi Babel and Riera!!

Think Nando is most definately out. Would hope i'm 100% wrong

[trucker]

Think Nando is most definately out. Would hope i'm 100% wrong
He's definately out, and should be ashamed of himself, next time he comes out with the I'm a scouser comment I hope all our fans remember the last 10 days.

[redforever]

spare ticket if anyone wants it pm me its free!

sent you a pm mate, if still available

[Rover 609]

sent you a pm mate, if still available

Its gone to a fella in Liverpool.

[redforever]

Its gone to a fella in Liverpool.

Cheers Ronan, at least its been used fair play to him for offering it up

[Niall]

He's definately out, and should be ashamed of himself, next time he comes out with the I'm a scouser comment I hope all our fans remember the last 10 days.

Hard one to take Richie. On the bench for Spain last Wednesday when clearly he should have been back in Liverpool since the Sunday previous. Spanish FA said he trained Monday or Tuesday night and was fine to play. Someone is telling porkie pies.

[Venom1983]

absolute must win

[trucker]

Hard one to take Richie. On the bench for Spain last Wednesday when clearly he should have been back in Liverpool since the Sunday previous. Spanish FA said he trained Monday or Tuesday night and was fine to play. Someone is telling porkie pies.

When he got a twinge Thursday before last he should have pulled out ASAP, to play a game and then train on it was wrong, hes the best striker in the world hes going to South Africa he does'nt need to worry, very dissapointed with him.

[trucker]

http://www.imscouting.com/global_news_item.aspx?id=3370

3 cente halves missing for Lyon. reina, Johnson Carragher Agger Aurellio, Dirk on Right, Gerrard and Lucas/Maschereno in Middle, Yossi on left, Voronin behind Ngog, thats what I'd go with.

[ROCCO]

Liverpool FC’s Albert Riera to undergo scan to determing hamstring problem

ALBERT RIERA has dealt Liverpool a fresh injury blow – as Rafael Benitez revealed the Anfield outfit will not ask for Saturday’s controversial defeat at Sunderland to be replayed.

Riera will undergo a scan to determine the extent of a hamstring problem suffered during training over the weekend.

The Spaniard was an unused substitute at the weekend and is definitely out of tonight’s Champions League visit of Lyon.

Liverpool are hopeful the damage is just a pull and not a tear, which could rule Riera out for a significant period.

But the winger is almost certain to be absent from Sunday’s Premier League encounter against Manchester United.

Better news came in the form of Alberto Aquilani, who is being tentatively slated for a return to action in tomorrow’s reserve game against Sunderland.

Benitez admitted yesterday Liverpool had initially expected the Italian to be available in mid-September until further assessment of his ankle injury following his £20million arrival from Roma.

Aquilani has now started full training

alongside his new team-mates and could make his senior debut before the end of the month.

“We knew that Aquilani could be out for a month but afterwards, after seeing the scans we realised it would be more,” said Benitez. “But we knew that we were signing the player for five years not just for five games.

“Today I was really happy watching Aquilani on the pitch, talking about how good he was with the ball and maybe in two or three weeks he will be ready and make the difference.”

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2009/10/20/liverpool-fc-s-albert-riera-to-undergo-scan-to-determing-hamstring-problem-92534-24968528/

[graham]

He's definately out, and should be ashamed of himself, next time he comes out with the I'm a scouser comment I hope all our fans remember the last 10 days.

I'm not sure you mean that as a joke or not, seriously

[trucker]

I'm not sure you mean that as a joke or not, seriously
I'm very serious, we pay his wages not Spain, he's likely to miss 3 massive games that could break our season,he chose to play for Spain in a meaningless game knowing he was injured and then stayed with Spain and sat on the bench when he should have came back to us, do you think I'm wrong?

[Venom1983]

I think your wrong, that guy has sweat blood for our club and delivered for us time and time again

There are no grounds to claim he isnt fully committed to the club, players especially great players like nando always want to play, its what makes them great, thats why he played for HIS country.

[graham]

I'm very serious, we pay his wages not Spain, he's likely to miss 3 massive games that could break our season,he chose to play for Spain in a meaningless game knowing he was injured and then stayed with Spain and sat on the bench when he should have came back to us, do you think I'm wrong?

I sit between Manc fans all day in work then I come on here to speak to fellow Pool fans and I have to read this garbage. Some of us are very proud to have Fernando Torres play for our team. He's scored some fantastic goals, he's great to watch and he never let it be any secret that he loves to play for LFC. His head has never been turned by City, Chelsea, Barcelona and so on but he's been loyal to the club when he could have left us for more money, glory etc. Next time he refers to himself as a scouser I for one will remember more than the previous 10 days when he couldn't play because he's been injured. I for one think there isnt much wrong with him but Rafa wont risk him because of the United game this Sunday. He should be ashamed of himself and ashamed to call himself a scouser? I still can't comprehend that a Liverpool fan could make such a comment

[Niall]

I think your wrong, that guy has sweat blood for our club and delivered for us time and time again

There are no grounds to claim he isnt fully committed to the club, players especially great players like nando always want to play, its what makes them great, thats why he played for HIS country.

He didn't play for HIS country that's the point Trucker is making. He was on the bench last wednesday but fit to play according to the Spanish FA yet came back injured to Liverpool. He clearly wasn't fit due to the injury the previous weekend so he should have been back getting treatment in Melwood since last Sunday not sitting around a hotel in Bosnia all week. Surely common sense should apply??

[trucker]

wow wow back up there mate , I'm very proud that Torres is ours and know how great he is, all i'm saying is he knows how stretched our squad is and agreeing to play for Spain with an injury was wrong and were gona struggle now and i'm very disapointed with him for it, anyway back on the road for me, I'll be in airport bar at 3

[Niall]

I sit between Manc fans all day in work then I come on here to speak to fellow Pool fans and I have to read this garbage. Some of us are very proud to have Fernando Torres play for our team. He's scored some fantastic goals, he's great to watch and he never let it be any secret that he loves to play for LFC. His head has never been turned by City, Chelsea, Barcelona and so on but he's been loyal to the club when he could have left us for more money, glory etc. Next time he refers to himself as a scouser I for one will remember more than the previous 10 days when he couldn't play because he's been injured. I for one think there isnt much wrong with him but Rafa wont risk him because of the United game this Sunday. He should be ashamed of himself and ashamed to call himself a scouser? I still can't comprehend that a Liverpool fan could make such a comment

Haven't seen anyone question his love of playing for Liverpool. The question is why stay in Bosnia all week when you are injured?

[graham]

wow wow back up there mate , I'm very proud that Torres is ours and know how great he is, all i'm saying is he knows how stretched our squad is and agreeing to play for Spain with an injury was wrong and were gona struggle now and i'm very disapointed with him for it, anyway back on the road for me, I'll be in airport bar at 3

Sorry Trucker thats fine. It's just the way you said it was mad. You must not have meant it the way it came out. Enjoy the game. Wish I could go. Sorry again

[carpe diem]

just to get me in the mood a bit

BY3_AhqNDoQ&feature=related

[ROCCO]

Doesn't look like Glen will be playing tonight , .

[travis]

Doesn't look like Glen will be playing tonight , maybe kelly at right back .

Where did you see this Rocco ?? I didn't know he had an injury, and if he's out it will be Degen replacing him. how many more injuries are we gonna get. :(

[SHOWTIME]

Why does everyone insist on Kuyt upfront.I know he scores when on the wing but barely ever scores when playing upfront.

I would much rather Babel,N'gog or Voronin upthere.

[ROCCO]

Where did you see this Rocco ?? I didn't know he had an injury, and if he's out it will be Degen replacing him. how many more injuries are we gonna get. :(

Seems to be correct ..

champions league squad is

Goalkeepers
No. Name
1 Diego Cavalieri »
25 Pepe Reina »
41 Martin Hansen *

Defenders
No. Name
2 Glen Johnson »
5 Daniel Agger »
12 Fábio Aurélio »
16 Sotiris Kyrgiakos »
22 Emiliano Insúa * »
23 Jamie Carragher »
32 Stephen Darby *
34 Martin Kelly »
37 Martin Škrtel »
38 Andrea Dossena »

Midfielders
No. Name
4 Alberto Aquilani »
8 Steven Gerrard »
11 Albert Riera »
15 Yossi Benayoun »
20 Javier Mascherano »
21 Lucas »
26 Jay Spearing »
28 Damien Plessis *
39 Nathan Eccleston *

Forwards
No. Name
9 Fernando Torres »
10 Andriy Voronin »
18 Dirk Kuyt »
19 Ryan Babel »
24 David Ngog »
46 David Amoo

[Shels-07]

Must win tonight!!!!!!

[merc]

Why does everyone insist on Kuyt upfront.I know he scores when on the wing but barely ever scores when playing upfront.

I would much rather Babel,N'gog or Voronin upthere.

Was noticing that myself.. Maybe this could be Babels chance to shine upfront

[Niall]

Was noticing that myself.. Maybe this could be Babels chance to shine upfront

Would put Babel upfront myself but how many chances to shine has he had? This is his third season now so how many more chances can he be given?

[ROCCO]

Why does everyone insist on Kuyt upfront
.

Its European football :)

[Coolfran]

I'd probably pick N'Gog up front with *shock horror* Voronin in behind. He has performed decently when on the pitch and I think in a more tactical European game he could do a job given the injuries to Torres and Riera.

Also, like him or loathe him, I don't think Lucas, for fitness sake alone, should start every game.

[Kop On]

I'd probably pick N'Gog up front with *shock horror* Voronin in behind. He has performed decently when on the pitch and I think in a more tactical European game he could do a job given the injuries to Torres and Riera.

Also, like him or loathe him, I don't think Lucas, for fitness sake alone, should start every game.

I don't think we can risk starting the game with Voronin & N'Gog as the top two. Neither would frighten Lyon and I can never remember them playing together as a pair.

I can see him putting Benni out left, Babel out wide right, Kuyt up front on his own with Gerrard back in his normal position.

Lucas and Masch then to sweep up behind. That formation should put Lyon on the back foot from the off!

[Liverpool-law]

I don't think we can risk starting the game with Voronin & N'Gog as the top two. Neither would frighten Lyon and I can never remember them playing together as a pair.

I can see him putting Benni out left, Babel out wide right, Kuyt up front on his own with Gerrard back in his normal position.

Lucas and Masch then to sweep up behind. That formation should put Lyon on the back foot from the off!

I'd agree with that, change as little as possible from our best 11. Kuyt where Torres is missing and Babel in to cover the right side. Everyone else in their usual roles.

[Coolfran]

I don't think we can risk starting the game with Voronin & N'Gog as the top two. Neither would frighten Lyon and I can never remember them playing together as a pair.

I can see him putting Benni out left, Babel out wide right, Kuyt up front on his own with Gerrard back in his normal position.

Lucas and Masch then to sweep up behind. That formation should put Lyon on the back foot from the off!

That's certainly what I would expect to see and I hear your point re. utilising such a strikeforce in a key game.

I would still think Voronin would have more impact than Bable but of course he can really only play in the 'Gerrard position' and therefore is limiting our options.

[SHOWTIME]

Would put Babel upfront myself but how many chances to shine has he had? This is his third season now so how many more chances can he be given?

Babel has rarely had the chance upfront which is obviously his best position.

Just hope he starts there and finally starts to deliver.

[SHOWTIME]

Was noticing that myself.. Maybe this could be Babels chance to shine upfront

He'd better cos he's making my boasts bout him going on to be as good as Henry in his prime as stupid. :(

[merc]

He'd better cos he's making my boasts bout him going on to be as good as Henry in his prime as stupid. :(

Ye was doing that my self last season.
But realy thin he should start up front. Kuyt is one of my favourate players but I realy think he makes his best contributions on the wing.

Either Way we have to Win. Not only for the champion league but to get the spirits up going into Sundays game.

[SHOWTIME]

Ye was doing that my self last season.
But realy thin he should start up front. Kuyt is one of my favourate players but I realy think he makes his best contributions on the wing.

Either Way we have to Win. Not only for the champion league but to get the spirits up going into Sundays game.

I couldn't agree more.His pace will unsettle Lyon and give other players licence 2 push forward.

Am win tonight and then beatin' them scum on Sunday will get us back on track again. :)

[prendy]

Babel has rarely had the chance upfront which is obviously his best position.

Just hope he starts there and finally starts to deliver.

i'd agree with this.

Id like

kuyt---gerrard---riera/benni
------babel-------


with masc and lucas holding the fort.

We badly need to win this both for the CL points and also the confidence going into Sunday's battle.


Will Agger start? or will it be JC and Skyrtle at the back?

[dk.lfc]

i'd agree with this.

Id like

kuyt---gerrard---riera/benni
------babel-------


with masc and lucas holding the fort.

We badly need to win this both for the CL points and also the confidence going into Sunday's battle.


Will Agger start? or will it be JC and Skyrtle at the back?

Id say it will be JC and Skertel 2nite

[Alex Raisbeck]

My Probable team:

Reina
Kelly Carra Agger Insua

Kuyt Mascherano Lucas Benayoun

Gerrard

Ngog

[walsheman1]

hope its agger,riera's out

[Podgecheco]

Pretty sure riera is out with a hammy, id prefer babel upfront or event eh right aslong as its no the left hes ineffective there

[walsheman1]

ngog starts instead of babel

[walsheman1]

riera,KELLY,carra,agger,insua,lucas,mash,gerrard,b enayoun,kuyt,ngog!!!martin kelly,johnson injured??

[Podgecheco]

Where are ye getting this team from?

[walsheman1]

sky sports!!!

[Podgecheco]

sky sports!!!

Sound, odd its not on Main site

[Shay]

I wouldn't put Babel up front on his own, a lone stiker needs to put in a lot of graft and he's hardly broke a sweat in the time he's here

[Aido82]

riera,KELLY,carra,agger,insua,lucas,mash,gerrard,b enayoun,kuyt,ngog!!!martin kelly,johnson injured??

saw it myself.

ngog up front and kelly in for johnston

huge gamble to take, hope it works

[dk.lfc]

if Glen is not injured its a weird selection

[Ron1892]

cant see anything on sky sports bout the team.I no with the champs league team,the lineup has to be given to the ref a hour before the game where as in the league its only a half hour i think.

[ROCCO]

Doesn't look like Glen will be playing tonight , .

Seems correct now

[Aido82]

cant see anything on sky sports bout the team.I no with the champs league team,the lineup has to be given to the ref a hour before the game where as in the league its only a half hour i think.

its on sky sports news

[ROCCO]

riera,KELLY,carra,agger,insua,lucas,mash,gerrard,b enayoun,kuyt,ngog!!!martin kelly,johnson injured??


Riera is crap in goal :D

[Ron1892]

Yeah just seen it on SKY sports..Big night for Kelly..unless johnson picked up a knock today..

[carpe diem]

Riera is crap in goal :D

some might say reina is a better midfielder :eek: did i just say that :D

nah only messing,i remember a pre season friendly a few years back up in the mountains of liechtenstein i think,rafa threw reina on as a midfielder for the last 20mins or so,it was very funny.he actually done quite well.

[barrydoherty]

NGog upfront on his own! Not Sure about that would rather have Babel or Kuyt up there myself!

Is that confirmed starting 11 cant see if comfirmed anywhere

[ROCCO]

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N166146091020-1853.htm

[ROCCO]

Martin Kelly makes his Anfield bow in tonight's Champions League clash with Lyon - listen live from 7.15pm GMT.
The youngster comes in for the injured Glen Johnson as Rafael Benitez's makes five changes from the side that lost to Sunderland at the weekend.

Steven Gerrard, Javier Mascherano, David Ngog and Emiliano Insua all return.

Liverpool: Reina, Kelly, Insua, Agger, Carragher, Mascherano, Lucas, Gerrard, Kuyt, Benayoun, Ngog. Subs: Cavalieri, Voronin, Aurelio, Babel, Skrtel, Spearing, Plessis.

[ROCCO]

some might say reina is a better midfielder :eek: did i just say that :D

nah only messing,i remember a pre season friendly a few years back up in the mountains of liechtenstein i think,rafa threw reina on as a midfielder for the last 20mins or so,it was very funny.he actually done quite well.

Remember it well :cool:

[Ron1892]

The Bench doesnt offer much hope...

[dk.lfc]

nerves startin to jangle

[gowinit6times]

I haven't seen much of Kelly but this is a big ask of a young lad in a big pressure game tonight. The other options were to play Skrtel/Carra/Masch at RB which didn't work last season.

Hopefully Kelly will do well and we can pick up 3 points by whatever means possible. It's strange that so much is riding on this game so early in the season.

[ROCCO]

Ive impressed by what ive seen of Kelly , a future star imo , hope tonight is not to early for him .

[carpe diem]

big night for kelly no doubt lets hope he has a stormer,but can anyone tell me what has happened to stephen darby,in my eyes he would have been above kelly in the pecking order at right back going on the few times ive seen them both,is he injured or has he regressed from his previous form?

[travis]

I'm very nervous now looking at that bench.. fcuk all on their to change a game very weak indeed.. hopefully i might come back on here around 10pm praising a great win but I don't know.

[Alex Raisbeck]

Assuming Kelly will be playing right back, has anybody seen him in that position before?

[MutantNinjaSkrtel]

Kelly is fcuking class.Delighted for him-hope he takes his chance.

[walsheman1]

Riera is crap in goal :D
haha!!!:eek::eek::eek:

[dk.lfc]

off to the pub..come on the redmen

[Deigo008]

looking at the team tonite.... am not happy again! really shows the lack of SQUAD we have!

[carramagic]

I think Kelly's done very well for the England U -20 team and when he was out on loan he played right back a lot. Huge night for him. Our bench really shows how those pr1cks have failed to back Rafa. Worried bout tonight. I would have started N'gog though. Don't like Kuyt up front on his own at all and don't think Babel can hold the ball up.

Good to see Agger back, we need him and the skipper should give us a lift too. Come on reds!

[carramagic]

Is Reira injured lads? Presume so if he's not making squads

[Alex Raisbeck]

Good luck Reds, lets take it from here!

[Span Molby]

As stated above its a big night for Martin kelly, hope all goes well for him, a star in the making IMO. Having said all that, its an even bigger night for the team and the club as a whole, a win is a must. Anyway, off to the pub, hope to be back on later praising our great win and outstanding team performance, Cmon Redmen

[bono]

Big game for Kelly hope the lad plays well + have feeling Ngog will bang in a goal 3-1 for me.

[Deigo008]

ACH No...I have to put up with TV3 coverage! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[MrsPepe]

Klinsman on sky:(

[carpe diem]

ACH No...I have to put up with TV3 coverage! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

+1 im searching for a good stream,give me bill eamon and johnny anyday,cant stand those tv3 cnuts,fcuking cascarino with his big grin and martin keown,no doubt trevor "the manc" welsh will be commentating !!!!!

[Ron1892]

Klinsman on sky:(

was watching him earlier...knocked if off as the mammy wanted to watch something and i thought id be kind and watch tv3 instead..things you do for mothers..:D

[Deigo008]

Matt Cooper! Tony Cascarino, Martin Keown.................Need I say more!

[MrsPepe]

http://www.atdhe.net/9898/watch-liverpool-fc-vs-olympique-lyon

Dont know what channel it is Carpe, adds on

[MrsPepe]

was watching him earlier...knocked if off as the mammy wanted to watch something and i thought id be kind and watch tv3 instead..things you do for mothers..:D

too right Ron;) I dont envy you though having to watch them eejits

[Ron1892]

too right Ron;) I dont envy you though having to watch them eejits

yeah i no...Ill just wait to kick off and then try miss the analysis by them...

Getting abit nervous now..:eek:

[carpe diem]

dont worry maj ill work it out ;)

[carpe diem]

tv3 ,mute, and http://www.bbc.co.uk/5live/ am just hoping its in sync :D

[MrsPepe]

ok , i am nervous now:)

[serpheus]

2-0 to the reds, come on lads!!!!!!!!!

[RedPaddy]

Any links???

[bono]

Few of the Lyon team looked a little shell shocked have a good feeling about this one.

[edcarroll02]

Why are we so terrible at the moment??

[Ron1892]

Some save by Pepe..One again determines why he is one of the best in the world.

[Podgecheco]

any links lads?

[MrsPepe]

Any links???

http://p2p4u.net/watch-live-sports.php?id=6954&link=1&site=MOPAGES.co.uk

[Podgecheco]

Thanks majella

[carpe diem]

fcuk lads dunno about that push.

[Ron1892]

Thanks majella

thought i seen you at the game on tele there....:D

[Podgecheco]

thought i seen you at the game on tele there....:D

Ha there is someone who always is at the front end of the kop that looks like me..that link is gone down for me now

[Podgecheco]

http://www.justin.tv/minozztv2

[Ron1892]

Ha there is someone who always is at the front end of the kop that looks like me..that link is gone down for me now

come home to ireland and you wont need links...You can watch it on our national channel tv3 for free...

[MrsPepe]

theyre all like that Podge or else they have them blocked:mad:

[MrsPepe]

http://lfcglobe.com/stream-links-sunderland-vs-liverpool-a/

media player 9

[Ron1892]

looks like gerrard will be coming off for aureillo....

[bono]

ok , i am nervous now:)

+1

[Deigo008]

SG gone....Oh SH^&.... this ant good for now or sunday....

[auntie-nic]

stevie off:(:(:(

[MrsPepe]

fair play to the singers

[Ron1892]

Sidney Gouvu looks like the black guy out of snatch..

[carpe diem]

yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[Ron1892]

you beaut yossi...

[MrsPepe]

thank fcccccccccccccccccccccckk for that,get in Yossi

[auntie-nic]

go yossi!!! vital goal! andy gray is wrecking my head, time to mute him!

[MR KING KENNY]

thank god for that, were going to need all the luck we can get over the next 4 weeks

[carpe diem]

great play by kelly there,fabulous cross

[MrsPepe]

great cross, great header but a great save

[Ron1892]

Jesus aurellio should off headed that into the ground..Great play by kelly...

[prendy]

what a save, pity we didnt get the 2nd.

kelly has done very well for his first CL start.

[MrsPepe]

Ive given myself a headache from screaming:eek:

[Ron1892]

Ive given myself a headache from screaming:eek:

ive got into trouble over my language...:D

[RedPaddy]

Ive given myself a headache from screaming:eek:

Maj, none of your links working for me> is it just me or are they working ok for everyone else??
im SO BUCKING FRUSTRATED, seen grand total of 4mins of stop/start action grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!:mad: HELP, ANYONE!!!

[Skintown Red]

Nightmare can't get a stream to work and my TV3 still isn't working.

Any help appreciated before 2nd half starts

[JAMIE]

Is johnson injured

[serpheus]

They don't look half as strong without cris, 1 more goal will seal this game and then rafa can take a couple of players off for sundays game.

[serpheus]

Is johnson injured

Ye slight groin strain

[carpe diem]

theres 3 links on here

http://www.p2p4u.net/

4 links on here

http://www.stream2watch.com/

2 links on here

http://www.atdhe.net/

http://www.magedtv.net/ch1.html

and there might be a link on

www.iraqgoals.net

[CHARMAC]

Is johnson injured

Yeap :(

[RedPaddy]

thanks



theres 3 links on here

http://www.p2p4u.net/

4 links on here

http://www.stream2watch.com/

2 links on here

http://www.atdhe.net/

http://www.magedtv.net/ch1.html

and there might be a link on

www.iraqgoals.net

[MrsPepe]

Maj, none of your links working for me> is it just me or are they working ok for everyone else??
im SO BUCKING FRUSTRATED, seen grand total of 4mins of stop/start action grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!:mad: HELP, ANYONE!!!

Id say theyre all gone down, you tried the lfcglobe one?

http://tvoo.net/


or

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-uefa-2.html install tvu, takes a minute tops and its safe, danish commentary but its all ive got im afraid

[bobby benitez]

Is Johnson/Torres gonna be alright for Sunday?
The Mancs are jammy f*cking c*nts, never play against our best team.

[Ron1892]

Half time came at the wrong time for us..We had Lyon on the back foot and we had just uped our game big time..That was the best 7 or 8 minutes we had in the first half...

hopfully we can continue on from that in the second half...

C'mon redman...we can do it..

[Ron1892]

Is Johnson/Torres gonna be alright for Sunday?
The Mancs are jammy f*cking c*nts, never play against our best team.

Rafa said on sky before the game Johnson should be fit..

Dont no about torres though..

[RastaRed]

gotta be happy with that,shite the 1st half hour but could be 3 up by the end of it.
Kelly&yossi have done well,G&T will be back for sun for sure.theyve no one at centre back now and we will get more chances but I'll take the 1 nil now

[bono]

Ngog playing well.

[carpe diem]

so close yossi,on another day ......

[MrsPepe]

great ball again by kelly

[edcarroll02]

Kelly looks very good going forward but is letting them swing too many crosses in!

I do feel we need another goal all the same!!

[Ron1892]

Jesus i hope we dont regret missing these chances..

[Podgecheco]

Ah link is gone!!

[MrsPepe]

i think i stopped breathing there,phew

[Aido82]

unlucky pepe

need a goal now

[carpe diem]

fcuk !! that was a sickener,reina done so well enall..... come on you redmen !!!! push on !

[auntie-nic]

come on Liverpool, sky commentators wetting themselves now...
Need a goal from somewhere....

[RedPaddy]

thanks Maj,

got middln link on madgd, start stop every 5secs, jumps in time about 30 secs, awe well......this is the 2nd champs lge game i couldnt watch in a row> & there was me thinking links would be flying cause everyone will be watching tv !:rolleyes:


Id say theyre all gone down, you tried the lfcglobe one?

http://tvoo.net/


or

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-uefa-2.html install tvu, takes a minute tops and its safe, danish commentary but its all ive got im afraid

[Tarabuses]

Did they score?

[bono]

Is it time for babel yet.

[carpe diem]

nope looks like triple h

[walsheman1]

voronin cumin on now

[Aido82]

voronin coming on to try and nick a goal.

yeap tarabuses they scored 1-1

[Aido82]

yossi for voronin :(

[walsheman1]

ah benayoun,what the f$ck is that about

[Ron1892]

bringing yossi off was a big mistake i think...Thought he is the one lad who could unlock this defence.

[MR KING KENNY]

what the **** is that sub all about, take off our best player, ffs

[walsheman1]

hows ngog not being replaced by babel yet???????????????????ffs

[Aido82]

we have no subs left

fabio, skrtl and voronin

fcuk sake 2-1 down

[carpe diem]

fcuking hell (head explodes)

[RedPaddy]

you USELESS SHOWER OF F*******

[Don_Corleone]

no heart what-so-ever

sick of these under-par players

[MrsPepe]

forkin hell, im surprised my laptop still working

[walsheman1]

jesus christ

[Aido82]

OK, its time to look realistly

4 loses in a row, 6 loses in 12 games in league and cup

what the hell is going on

[walsheman1]

what a load of bloody $hite,staring at the uefa cup now

[kautostar]

Benitez in trouble.

[south]

lyon through. Not looking good at all for us.

[edcarroll02]

A team with top four aspirations cannot leak goals the way we have been lately! Don't mention winning the league the uefa cup could be a struggle this season for us! Not a single quality attacking player on the pitch when yossi went off! We're not good enough

[vincenzo]

Its our own hands now. 3 wins or we are fcuked.

[MR KING KENNY]

so who's to blame, the yanks, rafa, they all have a part to play in this shit. this season is a joke so far, the players it seems dont give a fcuk, something has to change, ahhhhhh im so pissed off with liverpool f.c, so close last season and now we seem miles away from winning anything, cant believe this

[auntie-nic]

These are the most worrying times we have had for a long time...:(

[Aido82]

three wins away to deb and lyon and home to fiorentina, not looking good at all

it comes down to the squad, not good enough at all

some people will blame the yanks - didnt give enough $$$ to spend

some will want rafa's head - poor buys and not good enough signings bar a few

players - dont seem to care??

[prendy]

:mad:

[bobby benitez]

Sell up you yank pricks.

Ngog is not a Liverpool footballer, he tries but he is shite.
Kuyt,Reina,Benni and Kelly stood up and were counted. Insua,Aurelio,Lucas,Masch not good enough again.

Choppy waters ahead one thinks.

[Tarabuses]

Meltdown? From a great season to possible whitewash in 5 months?

[shibox]

oh dear, looks like our season is really gone tits up.

[fermoyred80]

Ive never witnessed such shite in the last 4 games from a Liverpool team. I fear for us really do and if anyone comes on about the knee jerking shite, please kindly go and fck off, we're up shite creak without a paddle

[Rebelred80]

What the fcuk is happening here. I'm absolutely gutted

[McLovin]

Make the most of the next 3 champions league games because they may be the last for a long while with the way we are playing. So disappointed!

[prendy]

4 on the bounce, worst run in years.

im sick at that performance.

sick.

[bryanod]

****ing disgraceful second half, should hang their ****ing heads, and I mean everyone involved at the club, ****ing disgrace.

[corcaigh]

something has changed, the losses dont seem to be hurting the players enough for them to really go out and change things. wheres the spirit of CL 05, the fa cup in 06 or scoring 4 after going behind in old toilet last season? if we lose to the mancs sunday, we are fairly screwed and even with the injured lads back(hopefully), theres a huge possibility of that happening now.

[windhover]

The yanks did not bring beny off for vornin. A loss on sunday and Im afraid Rafa has questions to answer. This group and the league are not out of reach at all though. not panic stations....yet.

[liverbird!!]

If we win our last three games we qualify
so relax and wait until we play all our games!

[mascherIANO]

what the fcuk was that all about taken yossi off? fckuin shockin.

1-1 in a game we really need to win and he takes off our most creative player, doesnt seem to make any sense to me at all.

this season so far has been a load of bol$ox and im with fermoyred on this anyone who talks about a knee jerk reaction can kindly do one.

[born red 79]

The feelin that came over me when that second goal went in, i would not wish on my worst enemy.

What the fcuk are we gonna do like.

[SHOWTIME]

Can you fcuking believe Babel wasn't brought on!!It's bad enough he didn't fcuking start!!Jesus christ like.

No wonder Babel has no confidence.He never got a fair chance.

Am sick to death of this now!!

He should of started upfront!!

[Aido82]

If we win our last three games we qualify
so relax and wait until we play all our games!

thats a big IF mark, we cant defend for shite and we have two away matches

not looking good imo

[fermoyred80]

If we win our last three games we qualify
so relax and wait until we play all our games!
Ya thats true but lad we dont even look like a team out there. Theres something rotten at the club

[NiallD]

If we win our last three games we qualify
so relax and wait until we play all our games!

We had only a single point two seasons ago after 3 games remember and still qualified. In fact we were fcukin unstoppable in the second three, including having to go to france for the last game with winner qualifying. Still believe we can win sunday and turn this around.

[Yoko]

it's hurting alright. Carra was nearly crying there. Cannot see us qualifying. rafa your negative tactics and subs have cost us dear.

[corcaigh]

The yanks did not bring beny off for vornin. A loss on sunday and Im afraid Rafa has questions to answer. This group and the league are not out of reach at all though. not panic stations....yet.

i wouldnt panic IF we were playing well. only the chelsea performance was ok, fiorentina, sunderland and this was the biggest rubbish we have seen in years, probably since the bad houllier times. Sunday is the biggest match we have had in a long time and if we lose that...its scary to think whats next

[RedPaddy]

+1

the yanks are a big problem.sadly winning things is now about who has the most money....

however, i've not flickered in my belief Rafas handling of the money he's been given has been very poor,(bar torres whom stevie wonder could've bought!) whether thats down to the scouts or not i dont know, but selling alonso while on the brink of the league was idiotic. Selling a decent & settled defender in arbeloa was stupid, yes johnson is decent goin forward, but defensively he's not up to much, therefore rafa didnt do what was so obvious last summer> BUY A STRIKER ..he let go/sold both crouch & his replacement keane!

another Liverpool game, another foul temper for me....:rolleyes:


Id say theyre all gone down, you tried the lfcglobe one?

http://tvoo.net/


or

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-uefa-2.html install tvu, takes a minute tops and its safe, danish commentary but its all ive got im afraid

so who's to blame, the yanks, rafa, they all have a part to play in this shit. this season is a joke so far, the players it seems dont give a fcuk, something has to change, ahhhhhh im so pissed off with liverpool f.c, so close last season and now we seem miles away from winning anything, cant believe this

[leixlip kopite]

Most useless display of football i have ever seen from a liverpool team. Ngog and voronin arent fit to wear the red shirt. Insua is as slow as a snail. Have to question benitez on subs.Why did he take benayoun off? Babel should off been on for ngog.Lucky to finish in top half of table at this rate!!!!

[GaryMc]

Could and should have been two nil up.

Vorinin for Benayoun. I am speechless, I really am.

[Maverick]

Poor result tonight but on a positive note Gerrard and Torres should feature in the rest of our champions league fixtures 3 out of 3 is possible,we know we are atrocious at the moment but lets hope they find that passion that is severely lacking at the moment,Ngog didnt do it for us, Yossi had fire in his belly and looked a class apart,Carragher didnt pick up the man for the first or second goal,insua struggled alot.We have to move on now and hopefully the intensity with United will give the players a lift and hopefully Benitez gives them a good kick up the arse,they need a result Sunday to take some of the the pressure that will be heaped on them over the next few days off.

[MCLOCO]

look boys imo rafa has to go he has spent a hell of a lot of money over the last few years and we bearly have a good starting 11 wit that moey we should have a great starting 11 and good backup on the bench by now!!!!!

[IrishRed1892]

so sick of this sh1t. something needs to change very soon or i can see us being the next leeds utd, no exageration

[SINGLE]

any news on gerrard

[fermoyred80]

so sick of this sh1t. something needs to change very soon or i can see us being the next leeds utd, no exageration

maybe a small bit:o

[Yoko]

it's hurting alright. Carra was nearly crying there. Cannot see us qualifying. rafa your negative tactics and subs have cost us dear.

[stevieg]

Extremely disappointing, we let them dictate the second half at our "house".

All the different people/groups involved at the club have to share the blame, but some of the lesser players playing tonight really need to step up, when Nando,Johnson & Gerrard aren't there and also when they are there.

How we do on Sunday will give us the clearest indication of where we as a team and individuals are at this season.

I don't care about winning the League,getting Top 4 should be the main priority at this stage.

Onwards and upwards.

[IrishRed1892]

Poor result tonight but on a positive note Gerrard and Torres should feature in the rest of our champions league fixtures 3 out of 3 is possible,we know we are atrocious at the moment but lets hope they find that passion that is severely lacking at the moment,Ngog didnt do it for us, Yossi had fire in his belly and looked a class apart,Carragher didnt pick up the man for the first or second goal,insua struggled alot.We have to move on now and hopefully the intensity with United will give the players a lift and hopefully Benitez gives them a good kick up the arse,they need a result Sunday to take some of the the pressure that will be heaped on them over the next few days off.

Benitez needs a kick up the arse himself! before anyone says it I'm not in the "rafa out" brigade or anything, I think he's a good manager but he needs to do some serious thinking

[carramagic]

It's very depressing. On one hand I feel sorry for Rafa as we were brilliant last year and all we needed was proper investment from those two pr1cks to kick on and win the league with utd weakened this year

On the other hand some of his decisions are ridiculous. What the fcuk was my little pony coming on for our best player with 6 mins to go. Some players are playing like they don't care enough. It's possible Rafa has lost some of them. Mascherano looks like he is dreaming of Barca. Whatever has happened to Skrtel and Carra I dont know

Rafa also has to take the blame for us not having a forward when Torres is injured. It was his decision to sell Keane without bringing in a replacement. There are too many average players in the squad and obviously we rely too much on our two top players

I hope Rafa turns it around as I love him. History would suggest he will. 4 defeats in a row doesn't lie though and people are right tio be angry. I really fear for the team at the moment

[liverbird!!]

Ya thats true but lad we dont even look like a team out there. Theres something rotten at the club

Been through it before fermoy, keep the faith we may not look like a team out there, but we'll comr through this as we have before.

I use to be the o e slagging off the manager and team, but there's knowhere else to turn now, unless we can sell the club and spend big in january.

[gav003]

The players had to score early in the second half when we were on top. It's sickening not to see a reaction after the Sunderland performance.

[walsheman1]

cant see us winning sunday,he is gona set out for a draw!!!ball is being hit long outta defence to much!!

[MCLOCO]

things are that bad wit me i actually predicted 2-1 to lyon to my brother before the game

[Trevinem]

Its painful to watch us at the moment....none of players are playing well, we have a poor squad and the first 11 just arent cutting it...give Babel a run up front....wtf is Ngog getting the nod over him for? Rafa has lost the plot....Carra needs to be dropped for his own good, hes poison this season. Were 2nd to every ball. Funds needed in January to sign 2 decent players, a winger and striker.

[Daz]

+1

however, i've not flickered in my belief Rafas handling of the money he's been given has been very poor,(bar torres whom stevie wonder could've bought!) whether thats down to the scouts or not i dont know, but selling alonso while on the brink of the league was idiotic. Selling a decent & settled defender in arbeloa was stupid, yes johnson is decent goin forward, but defensively he's not up to much, therefore rafa didnt do what was so obvious last summer> BUY A STRIKER ..he let go/sold both crouch & his replacement keane!

another Liverpool game, another foul temper for me....:rolleyes:

Alonso wanted to go FFS, and we were screaming out for more attacking fullbacks. I;ve no problem with people having teir own opinions on stuff but I;m sick of reading such shite when I;m already in a poxy humour

[RedWally]

Benitez needs a kick up the arse himself! before anyone says it I'm not in the "rafa out" brigade or anything, I think he's a good manager but he needs to do some serious thinking

He's a stubborn fella alright. It's a sad day when we're 5th favourite for PL in Oct - even Man City have better odds to win PL.

[MR KING KENNY]

the way the club is been run is a joke, and nothing seems to be changing, between rafa and the yanks they are making mistakes, (well the yanks more so) ive got a really bad feeling its going to get worse, but in the long run it might be better for the club, cos something has to change

[Maverick]

it's hurting alright. Carra was nearly crying there. Cannot see us qualifying. rafa your negative tactics and subs have cost us dear.

Dont get me wrong I love Carragher but caught napping for both goals tonight,in fairness to him a poor general defensive display made him look bad,but we are giving away really cheap goals and that fighting spirit that seemed to drag games from a loss to a win is gone,but we are getting no luck,please wait til we play Utd Sunday and if they cant find heart then,well most of the comments here can be justified but give them til Sunday

[MCLOCO]

Its painful to watch us at the moment....none of players are playing well, we have a poor squad and the first 11 just arent cutting it...give Babel a run up front....wtf is Ngog getting the nod over him for? Rafa has lost the plot....Carra needs to be dropped for his own good, hes poison this season. Were 2nd to every ball. Funds needed in January to sign 2 decent players, a winger and striker. +1 on all but the babel part

[travis]

does anyone know if Paddser was at this game.

[MCLOCO]

kelly had asavage debut!!!

[SHOWTIME]

Its painful to watch us at the moment....none of players are playing well, we have a poor squad and the first 11 just arent cutting it...give Babel a run up front....wtf is Ngog getting the nod over him for? Rafa has lost the plot....Carra needs to be dropped for his own good, hes poison this season. Were 2nd to every ball. Funds needed in January to sign 2 decent players, a winger and striker.


Damn right!!Babel deserves a fair run upfront when Torres is out or even upfront with him!!

We are crying out for his power and pace!!

[Trevinem]

I think the only positive from today was Kelly. Looked a decent player. Maybe one answer is to give him a chance at right full and push Glen into right side of midfield? Cant be any worse than we are at the moment. Maybe push carra left full and let Skrtel and Danny develope an understanding in the center

[Daz]

Damn right!!Babel deserves a fair run upfront when Torres is out or even upfront with him!!

We are crying out for his power and pace!!

and exactly when the fcuk has Babel used to that to good effect when he's started

[rafalabamba]

fcuking joke i thought the only players who done anything were kelly and benayoun, our worst run for 22 1/2 years and i will definatley take a draw on sunday, i just hope to god we can qualify and go on a run in the cl

[MrsPepe]

any interview yet?

[carpe diem]

The players had to score early in the second half when we were on top. It's sickening not to see a reaction after the Sunderland performance.

yeah gav i think thats the more worrying thing,no proper reaction,supposedly the worst run since 87/89 not sure i heard it properly as i had steam coming out my ears :D ,had we played really well and lost i think it would have been something we could of took on the chin but apart for say 20 mins of the game we were void of ideas,when we looked like we were getting on top confidence just went from the side with a couple of attacks from lyon,it was really sad to watch,the crowds reaction to yossi coming off said it all.

[General]

Rafa out brigade really out in force tonight. Personally, I thought we did enough for a draw. I also thought Ngog did a decent job up front. Held it up quite well and could have scored with a bit more composure. He's a young lad and he'll come good!!

I'm a Rafa fan through and through but Voronin for Benayoun has me completely stumped. Can anyone give any kind of an explanation for that because I can't!!!

[fermoyred80]

I think the only positive from today was Kelly. Looked a decent player. Maybe one answer is to give him a chance at right full and push Glen into right side of midfield? Cant be any worse than we are at the moment. Maybe push carra right full and let Skrtel and Danny develope an understanding in the center

Not a hope, Carra has no pace for full back and we are leaking enough goals as it is. Kelly was promising tonight tho, very confident on the ball

[SHOWTIME]

I think the only positive from today was Kelly. Looked a decent player. Maybe one answer is to give him a chance at right full and push Glen into right side of midfield? Cant be any worse than we are at the moment. Maybe push carra right full and let Skrtel and Danny develope an understanding in the center

He'll never drop Kuyt no matter how rubbish he is.I know Kuyt tries his heart out but that's not enough!!

[GaryMc]

The players had to score early in the second half when we were on top. It's sickening not to see a reaction after the Sunderland performance.

Central Midfield is killing the team. Nothing goes through them and anything that does ends up overhit or a sideways pass. I know its not in vogue to slag Lucas, but in my opinion he often runs near a opposition player so the ball will not be played to him. Masherano had it twice tonight and Lucas could of made a forward run, instead he ran to Lyon player. Maybe his instructions are to hold but its fckin poison playing with two players with zero attacking threat in centre midfield at home. Johnson has been our best attacking outlet all season. Maybe once Aqualini gets in there we will see some quality in central midfield.

[SHOWTIME]

Damn right!!Babel deserves a fair run upfront when Torres is out or even upfront with him!!

We are crying out for his power and pace!!

and exactly when the fcuk has Babel used to that to good effect when he's started

He needs a run in the team!!!Not one start every 4 games!!

[Trevinem]

Damn right!!Babel deserves a fair run upfront when Torres is out or even upfront with him!!

We are crying out for his power and pace!!

and exactly when the fcuk has Babel used to that to good effect when he's started
Im not big fan of Babel mate but hes scored more than Ngog this season anyway

[serpheus]

I normally don't post with any negative comments after we lose but i think tonight is a massive eye opener on the standard of players who are playing for the club. While i thought Martin Kelly had a good game and Pepe was his usual brilliant self there was at least 4 or 5 players who just don't cut it at this level and are seriously bringing us backwards instead of forwards. We are now in the middle of a serious crisis after losing 4 games in a row for the first time in 22 years. I could take losing against Chelsea & Sunderland but tonight was an absolute shambles, when we really should have won this game comfortably after their most important player Cris went off injured we found ourselves gradually getting trapped inside our own half and booting balls up to Ngog who will probably get a lot of stick but was left up front on his own and really didn't have much of a chance. When Rafa put on Voronin instead of our most creative player Benayoun you could actually hear the audible gasps from the crowd who must have thought the manager was losing his marbles. Sunday's game against united is now make or break, win it and we can get some form going but lose and we will be 10 points behind them and surely out of the title race. I still believe that with Torres, Gerrard, Pepe, Yossi ,Mascherano and Aqualani (when he is ready) in the first 11 we can beat anyone but without maybe 4 of these players we are at best a mediocre team.

[Trevinem]

Not a hope, Carra has no pace for full back and we are leaking enough goals as it is. Kelly was promising tonight tho, very confident on the ball Was meant to be Left Full mate sorry, but judging by Insua tonight he has less pace than Carra anyway

[marathonman]

He'll never drop Kuyt no matter how rubbish he is.I know Kuyt tries his heart out but that's not enough!!
Read a lot on here tonight but you can't be serious about Kuyt.He gave his all as usual tonight and was one of our best players.

[General]

He'll never drop Kuyt no matter how rubbish he is.I know Kuyt tries his heart out but that's not enough!!

Agree that kuyt is having a poor season so far and hasn't really settled yet. Has been moved around a bit which doesn't help. However, he tries his heart out unlike Babel who you want to replace him with.

[Trevinem]

and the defending for the first goal was shocking....3 class saves from Pepe and still the defenders couldnt get their fingers out of there holes and attack the ball.....I feel brutal for Pepe

[RedPaddy]

Alonso wanted to go FFS, and we were screaming out for more attacking fullbacks. I;ve no problem with people having teir own opinions on stuff but I;m sick of reading such shite when I;m already in a poxy humour

wel Daz- i too am in 'poxy humour' & i take bad results & bad play way too much to heart & of detriment to my health, but just because an under contract player wants to go your saying a club should just let him? alonso wanted to go last year & turned in a fantastic season.......
why didnt rafa even take owen in the summer ?>he was on a free....

look, i just wish the players displays would equal their dazzling paypackets & hope rafa turns this around for all our sake's....:rolleyes:

[south]

Jamie Carragher is in no doubt Liverpool will come through their dip in form sooner rather than later - and the defender believes they now have the perfect fixture to turn their season around.
The Reds conceded two late goals to lose 2-1 to Lyon in the Champions League - and now go into this weekend's clash with Manchester United having lost four on the spin.

However, Carra thinks the visit of our north-west rivals on Sunday could be the catalyst for a return to form.

"We're going through a tough patch but we've been through them before and we'll bounce back, there's no doubt about that," said the vice-captain.

"We always bounce back because we've got a lot of fight and character.

"It's always a great game. That could be the game we need - if we win it will give everyone a massive lift."

Liverpool have collected three points from three in the Champions League group stages and have work to do to catch Fiorentina on six points and Lyon on nine.

Carra added: "It's massively disappointing for us and it gives us a lot to do.

"They caught us on the counter attack for the second goal. We would have been disappointed not to win but to lose that late in the game is even more so.

"You never know how results are going to go, so you've just got to look after yourself and try to win every game - and that's something we're looking to do now."

[MCLOCO]

if things keep goin like this boys i wont be supprised if fernando wants to leave in jan!!

[SHOWTIME]

Agree that kuyt is having a poor season so far and hasn't really settled yet. Has been moved around a bit which doesn't help. However, he tries his heart out unlike Babel who you want to replace him with.

I'd actually prefer Babel upfont with Torres to be honest and have Masher and Gerrard in the middle but can see it will never happen.

I just feel that Voronin who Benitez would have given away for free in the summer being put on before Babel is a fcuking disgrace.

[Trevinem]

Agree that kuyt is having a poor season so far and hasn't really settled yet. Has been moved around a bit which doesn't help. However, he tries his heart out unlike Babel who you want to replace him with. Kuyt is an honest hard working player...hes not a flair player and hes definetly not a winger. Still a big part of the team but you cant expect miracles...he banged in goals in Holland but the dutch league is shocking

[Maverick]

I have to agree with the Babbel comments,give him at least a full game,Ngog got a full game tonight and spent most of the game on his arse,i really dont think he has what it takes in the long run.Babbel has an international place to fight for and you cant blame him for his performances of late when he knows he will probably get hauled off when he starts or thrown on for 15 mins every game.