Blackburn vs Liverpool

[redeagle]

I know we have a carling cup match tomorrow but like many of you I am sure you feel this match to be the most important. (I'm also hoping rafa lets the fringe players and players on their way back from injury play in the C.C match)

reina
Finnan carra sami arbeloa
yossi/gerrard lucas masch/gerrard babel/riise
kuyt
Crouch

Think we have underused crouch this season. He offers us something really unique and he played really well against arsenal I thought.

Also think Lucas should get his game, I know its against Blackburn and a certain long blonde haired opponent will be trying to break ankles, but I'd rather have someone who can pass the ball and keep us moving rather than a super destructo team of masch and momo.


Really tough match and blackburn have been in good form. McCarthy in particular.

I still reckon a 0-2 nil win from us.

[Daz]

think Masch may struggle to be fit for this. leaving us with an option of 2 from Gerrard, Lucas and Momo. Gerrard and Lucas are both more offensive orientated meaning Momo will almost definately play. In fact, all 3 might play.

[Aido82]

I still reckon a 0-2 nil win from us.

2-0 might be a hoping for too much,

Blackburn are really in form at the minute, McCarthy and Santa Cruz are working well together, id be happy with a 1-0 win but in fairness away at ewood park is no easy game.

Hope crouch annd kuyt play together, and i want to see babel get a chance on the right wing. Need a result here to kick our season back on track

[RedMurph08]

This will be a lot more physical than the ars game which is why i can see Momo starting with stevie in the middle. Think he might go with 1 up front (Kuyt) though would like to see him play Crouchy up there with him. Maybe have to settle for another point but heres hoping for a morale boosting win!

[redeagle]

2-0 might be a hoping for too much,


I live in hope mate. :D

[REDHEART]

really tough game here.blackburn only been beaten once in the leauge so.....................i'd settle for a scrappy 1-0 here but it will be very tough.the brother follows blackburn so..................i don't expect it to be pretty.we will see.

yes i would also like to see crouch start.lets hope he gets to play some part 2morrow aswell maybe 45 even.hie match fittness must be in question seen as he's not played much this season.so we will need to play with widh if crouch is to start.he had 3 good chances against blacburn last season.lets hope its same again and lets hope he can finish them off.:D

[redeagle]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/b/blackburn_rovers/7069923.stm

good news for us. LUCAS TO START RAFA =p

[megager]

Sorry to be pessamistic, but I think we could lose here. We battered them last year but had no luck. They are playing better this year and with Agger, out McCarthy and Santa Cruz will cause us problems. I think we need to win. A draw will leave us a long way off if either united of scum if either (united 2-1 I think) win

[Kopite]

Sorry to be pessamistic, but I think we could lose here. We battered them last year but had no luck. They are playing better this year and with Agger, out McCarthy and Santa Cruz will cause us problems. I think we need to win. A draw will leave us a long way off if either united of scum if either (united 2-1 I think) win

never mind the scum and Arsenal, if blackburn beat us they would be 4 points ahead of us :eek:

[megager]

indeed

[sean]

Tough game this, and as has already been pointed out, a draw might just not be good enough for us. Its going to take some mighty performance to come out of this one with max points. At this stage, I'd settle for a point if it meant coming away with no more injuries.

[vodkacolly]

I definitely wont be happy with just a point. Blackburn will be playing to win which will open up the game for us. If they were at Anfield they would probably play 10 men behind the ball which we seem to have trouble with. With Arsenal/Utd (hopefully both) dropping points this weekend I really feel we must take advantage.

[Paul]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/b/blackburn_rovers/7069923.stm

good news for us. LUCAS TO START RAFA =p

If we're worried about the likes of Lilly ****ing Savage then we might as well give up now.

[RedMurph08]

Lily savage aint playin had an operation today!

[gav003]

Any kind of win at Blackburn considering the lack of luck last Stephen's day and their form since would be a great result here IMO. My best mates a Blackburn fan so I can't enjoy this game any year to be honest.
On a side note- Crouchie needs to prove himself now again- show some form!!

[Trevinem]

id say a boring 1 - 1. Blackburn are a good side and McCarthy is lethal!

[fitzpatrickgary]

hoping for a win but reckon it will be a tight game maybe a one nil
3 points and il be happy

[galwayred]

3 points under any circumstances is fine by me, if we can get 6 points before the international break we'd be set up nicely.

[Malzheimer]

Would definately take a draw in this one with Torres out. Saying that we have the players to win this one so if we can keep their front two quiet, and Bentleys out i think, so lets have a go and nick 3pts after last years robbery

[callyno3]

Blackburn are playing well at the moment, Hughes has done a very good job there. It will be a very tough one but 3 points are a must to give us a boost to kick on from. I think we will win this one 2-0. Its time to get those clean sheets going again it used to be like that almost every week. Yossi to start and score Crouch with the other:)

[Pimboli]

This is going to be a tough game and to get 3 points we will really need to up our game because Blackburn are on a good run.

The way we are playing at the moment yet another draw looks most likely outcome

[tosullivan]

Lily is out for a while
I think this one is there for the taking if Rafa plays Yossi from the start. He's one we need to break down the B'burn defence at home.
I think this one will be tight 2-1 to us

[sean]

I was watching the game against Blackburn from May 95 on LFCTV today, brought back a few memories. It was the most surreal game I'd seen at Anfield, you could sense the crowd wanting the Reds to win, but would have been happy enough with a defeat too if it meant the Mancs not winning the title. Bit strange seeing the crowd going barmy after Jamie's late winner, then realising the consequences and the place going a tad quiet again!

[mickey29]

this is going to be a very tough game.we will do well to grt a win but hopefully we will get one.blackburn on a good run at the min at will be up for this big time

[vodkacolly]

I think we will return to form and a get a win (assuming its not Kuyt/Voronin up front).

[LOU2]

dont think he'll chance anyone else up front to be honest, we need a win outta this one but it'll be tough esp with all the injuries.
after watching blackburns game last week we'll definately need to keep tight in defence.

[SUPERFAN]

is Masch fit?hope so!
i think we'll see a very similar team to the one that started against Everton with the exception of maybe Crouch instead of Voronin.

[sean]

is Masch fit?hope so!

I hope so too, this game really needs that kind of player! A win here would be a fantastic result, especially after the result from the Emirates.

[Kopite]

reina
finnan
Carra
Hyppia
Riise
Sisoko
Masch
Gerrard
Bennayoun
Kuyt
Babel

Kenny the legend is after making a fool of steve McManaman on setanta. McManaman said Liverpool would play "4 5 1 1" and a few seconds later Kenny, as dead pan as you like says "I dont think Liverpool will play 4 5 1 1 , thats cheating goin on somewhere!!!!"

[vodkacolly]

Sound team apart from up front. VERY surprised at Babel getting the nod ahead of Crouch. Big Pete mustve really pissed off the boss. Im expecting 3 points. Blackburns only impressive results have been 3draws (Arsenal, Chelsea, Toffees) and a win against Man City. All their other wins have been against teams from the bottom half. The lads will be all out to gain points on the top 2.

[JOE]

Depressing stat after 29 mins...Kuyt with only 4 touches of the ball...

[marathonman]

Kuyt is not a STRIKER,when will Rafa realise this?

[Kopite]

Kuyt is not a STRIKER,when will Rafa realise this?

I normally defend him, but he was dirt today. The difference between the attcking play of us and Arsenal and the scumis frightening. Bad and all as we were we still had a few very good chances, messed up the wkend.:(

[GaryMc]

I normally defend him, but he was dirt today. The difference between the attcking play of us and Arsenal and the scumis frightening. Bad and all as we were we still had a few very good chances, messed up the wkend.:(

Arsenal's team today cost 37 Million. Kuyt and Babel cost almost half that. I always thought the standard of Dutch football was not great, however if Dirk scored a hatful of goals in it, it must be League one level. He has no pace, no skill and no first touch. One thing he has is great work rate and he can pounce on a half chance in the box, I could do that. 10 million??

I am willing to give Babel the benefit of the doubt, but Kewell did more in 10 mins than he did in his last few appearances. 13.5 million?

[carramagic]

We are so far behind the football Arsenal and Man U are playin it's depressing. Kuyt is not good enough to play up front in a side that has title ambitions. Sissoko gave loads of the ball away as usual. Only plus for me was that Kewell looked lively. Keep playing like this and we'll do well to finish 4th

[vodkacolly]

I thought we did alright in a tough fixture. I agree with the comments about Kuyt: hes a workhorse for us not a striker so playing him alone up front was ridiculous, especially now he's not playing well at all. We did so much better when Crouch and Kewell came on. Blackburns rarely threatened apart from a few long range shots while we played better football, we created more chances and with a proper striker up front from the start wouldve got a win. Im very dissapointed we didnt make ground on the leaders but it was a vast improvment on the muck we've been playing for the last few weeks. Yes, we are nowhere near as nice to watch as Man U + Arsenal but Chelsea won the title without being entertaining and I would be more than happy to do the same.

[Daz]

I thought we did alright in a tough fixture.

yeah I didn;t think it was as bad as some of the tripe I;ve been reading around the forums. Blackburm created next to nothing. Yes they hit the bar but that was from a superb shot rather than creativity. We should defo have scored at least one near the end. Rminded me of St.Stephens day there last year.
When we get Agger, Alonso and Torres (hopefully with Kewell carrying on as he did today) back we will be much stronger. Still only 6 off the pace.

[SUPERFAN]

well i for one am a hell of a lot more positive after tonight's Performance than i was after the Everton Game.i thought Lpool,particularly in the 2nd Half,were the better Team and should've Won the Game.Sissoko didn't stand out for me tonight as having a particularly bad Game,he's been far worse recently.....
the potential was there for all to see in the last 10 Mins.Gerrard is bubbling over nicely and is getting better with each Game.i didn't agree with it at the time but maybe the substitution against Everton was the kick in the Arse he needed

[dubit10]

Id almost wouldnt give a dam if we where winning and playing the football we where playing:(Utter rubbish at the moment.Not good enough several of the players.JAR is not a defender,Carrager whilst i'll never doubt his heart is the hoof the ball forward king of world football,Momo(no comment),Kuyt is the worst forward we have had at this club in 15 odd years,the list go's on......There is to much depending on gerrard scoring the wonder goal to win us the game.WHY O WHY do we wait until the last 10 minutes to start putting shit teams under pressure?? and i dont give a fook what anybody says Blackburn are shit(Knocked out of UEFA cup by a team ive never heard of).It isnt good enough for liverpool football club.Rafa has made to many duff signings and his time is up in my opinion is up.Going backwards in a hurry and call me fickle if yas want im only judging the team with my head and not my heart.I hope he proves me wrong and we at least compete for the league this april but i doubt it very much:mad:Very very pissed off and sick of mancs laughing at us.

[dubit10]

We are so far behind the football Arsenal and Man U are playin it's depressing. Kuyt is not good enough to play up front in a side that has title ambitions. Sissoko gave loads of the ball away as usual. Only plus for me was that Kewell looked lively. Keep playing like this and we'll do well to finish 4th

Agreed.We will be lucky to finish any higher than 3rd.This team reminds me of the arsenal team of the late 80's and early 90's(Except this liverpool team cant win)where arsenal could, whilst being rubbish to watch.Very depressing stuff:(

[Trevinem]

its getting so hard watching us being so bad. Kuyt was shocking. Crouch should have started. I agree Carra cant play with the ball at his feet, bar that he is the best defender we have and would die for the club. Momo is a clown. Sell him in january. If were going to just hoof the ball up the pitch why dont we sign Kevin Davies!!! Utter rubbish

[SUPERFAN]

Kuyt is the worst forward we have had at this club in 15 odd years
that's some Statement mate........
there's been some Beauts at the Club in the last 15 Years,Kuyt is certainly not the worst in my opinion

[redeagle]

hmm...only saw the highlights..looked a bit rough.

I think we badly miss agger and alongo, also a fit aurelio and kewell and of course torres. But mainly alonso with his ability on the ball which masch or momo just dont posses.

If they play in the CL this week I actually dont see us winning.

[dubit10]

that's some Statement mate........
there's been some Beauts at the Club in the last 15 Years,Kuyt is certainly not the worst in my opinion

Your right we have had some rubbish alright but this guy cant run shoot dribble....wait a minute isnt that what a striker is meant to do.I dont like putting a liverpool player down but i think we have to admit if this guy played for utd what do you think you would think of him? I for one would be taking the piss otta him.Sell him in january and move on

[SUPERFAN]

Sell him in january and move on
be honest mate,if you were told tomorrow Lpool were going to sell one of their Strikers in January who would your Money be on?if anyone it would be Crouch,Kuyt is going nowhere in January.
i've never thought Kuyt was Lpool class and there's plenty of other Strikers out there i'd love to see in a Lpool Shirt but as i said after the Arsenal Game there's no doubt he has shortcomings but i think because he works so hard he will always merit a starting place alongside one of the other 3 Strikers.
a fully fit Kuyt and Torres will always start up front in the big Games in my opinion.

[carramagic]

Kuyt is a great worker and not the worst striker we have ever had but to be honest I would prefer to have Bellamy, Baros, Cisse or even Titi Camara at his best ahead of Dirk. He has no pace, terrible first touch and just isn't good enough for Liverpool FC

[carramagic]

Carra does hoof the ball too much but is obviously a gem. Don't think Javier was too impressed with him having a go for wasting possession all the same! When Agger and Alonso are there to take the ball off Carra it isn't such a problem

[Malzheimer]

Another poor game from Kuyt, working hard but showing no quality and awful decision making. If Rafa was going to play the 451 formation then surely it had to be Crouch up top on his own as one of his best assets is holding the ball up. Then maybe play Kuyt in behind, with Stevie in for Momo (who improved but still nowhere near the required standard) making his runs from deep, and getting the ball off our defence to set up attacks.

Kewell could be like a new signing (again) if he continues on from last two games, hope he starts against Besiktas. Babel has a lot do do to justify his price tag, Yossi was relatively quiet.

Calling for Rafa's head like some around the MB's are is crazy, away to Blackburn without 3 first teamers is a tough game, and we dominated them. We are gradually improving under Rafa but its slow progress. 6 points behind the top two is a good position considering some of our poor league performances. I think to realistically challenge this year we need to strengthen at the back and up front in Jan.

[Beglin's Peg]

We were poor for 75 minutes of the game. Only came to life when Croch and Harry were on. Why oh why can't we set out our stall to dominate teams from the start the way Chelsea, Utd and Arsenal do instead of "Controlling the game" and trying to win it in the last 10 minutes. Watching the last 10 minutes just annoyed me because we looked a different team to the first 70-75 minutes.

Crouchie must have done something terrible to get into Rafas bad books. At least he looks like he could score. Thought Harry looked very sharp in his time on, hopefully he can stay fit this time. Babel looks lost on the left side.

Hard to believe that Carra started out as a central midfield player because he is a really poor distributor of the ball(a hoofer), he does his primary job of stopping the opposition, so we can't complain too much. It's a bit much to expect another Hansen/Lawro. It's up to the midfield to show short for the ball and take it off them.

[vodkacolly]

Another poor game from Kuyt, working hard but showing no quality and awful decision making. If Rafa was going to play the 451 formation then surely it had to be Crouch up top on his own as one of his best assets is holding the ball up. Then maybe play Kuyt in behind, with Stevie in for Momo (who improved but still nowhere near the required standard) making his runs from deep, and getting the ball off our defence to set up attacks.

Kewell could be like a new signing (again) if he continues on from last two games, hope he starts against Besiktas. Babel has a lot do do to justify his price tag, Yossi was relatively quiet.

Calling for Rafa's head like some around the MB's are is crazy, away to Blackburn without 3 first teamers is a tough game, and we dominated them. We are gradually improving under Rafa but its slow progress. 6 points behind the top two is a good position considering some of our poor league performances. I think to realistically challenge this year we need to strengthen at the back and up front in Jan.

Well said Mal5times!
Im a bit suprised at other people moaning about Carra though. Hes always been an old fashioned hoofer but we wouldnt swap him for anyone else, so why complain bout him now?

[dubit10]

Well said Mal5times!
Im a bit suprised at other people moaning about Carra though. Hes always been an old fashioned hoofer but we wouldnt swap him for anyone else, so why complain bout him now?

Because he's now making mistakes at the back.Look carra is a legend but that doesnt mean you cant complain about the way he's playing of late.Why does he have to hoof each and every ball up into there box:confused: Why cant he just pass it 5 yards to a midfielder.It's not rocket science

[SUPERFAN]

Well said Mal5times!
Im a bit suprised at other people moaning about Carra though. Hes always been an old fashioned hoofer but we wouldnt swap him for anyone else, so why complain bout him now?

in fairness mate,anyone who's criticised him on here has backed it up by saying how good a Defender he is and his honesty of effort.
let him stick to what he's good at.it's his and the rest of the Back 4's Job to stop the other Team from Scoring.the vast majority of the time they do that,it's not his/their fault if the Midfielders/Forwards can't put the Ball in the Net.
i was watching Tommy Smith on LFC TV the other Night picking his all time Lpool 11 and he had Carra alongside Ronnie Yeats.
say no more!

[JOE]

It's obvious that we're stretched at the moment, but I thought it was a fatal error not to play Crouch and to start Kuyt instead. It's obvious that Kuyt is a supporting player, and today he had nobody support. He was actually a hinrance and cost Gerrard a goal. His work rate cannot be questioned, but fact is fact, 2 penalties in one game is just not good enough, simple as...

[Fowler's God]

Its the basic's we need to get right. Rafa's policy of formation and tactics are quite puzzling. The game was there for the taken been honest. But we need drastic improvement quickly we're not going to challenge for the title if we keep drawing. If we can improve from this performance today to the next game against Beskitas and keep building we can do well. If this our bad patch of the season i will take it. Still unbeaten only 6 points off the top.

The one positive from today is we gained a point on last season...

[dubit10]

It's obvious that we're stretched at the moment, but I thought it was a fatal error not to play Crouch and to start Kuyt instead. It's obvious that Kuyt is a supporting player, and today he had nobody support. He was actually a hinrance and cost Gerrard a goal. His work rate cannot be questioned, but fact is fact, 2 penalties in one game is just not good enough, simple as...

Agreed.But if you and me can see that why the hell cant Rafa:confused:

[SUPERFAN]

It's obvious that we're stretched at the moment, but I thought it was a fatal error not to play Crouch and to start Kuyt instead.
i would've started Crouch but not necessarily for Kuyt.he would've easily slotted in to Babel's role,that's who i would've benched.
i know he's young and only a new Signing but apart from the Derby Game Babel hasn't impressed me at all......

[sean]

i would've started Crouch but not necessarily for Kuyt.he would've easily slotted in to Babel's role,that's who i would've benched.
i know he's young and only a new Signing but apart from the Derby Game Babel hasn't impressed me at all......

I'd go along with that statement. Babel is one for the future and probably needs this season to get a proper foot hold in the Premiership. Starting Kuyt on the wings would have given us more options going forward as well, seeing as Kuyt ended up playing much of the game out on the right anyway. Crouch definitely gave us more impetus going forward when he came on, and I was impressed by what Kewell showed us when he was on the park.

Overall, this game had a draw written all over it from the start. Hopefully when the season is over we will look back on the past few weeks as being our "bad patch" of the season, which wouldn't be so bad seeing as we are still unbeaten in the league ;)

[KOP Season Ticket Holder]

Hi lads just reading through your comments taht was really difficult to watch yesterday evening and to be honest it is worse we are getting. Rafa should know by now that Liverpool FC do not play football like. To a generation or two of fans the mention of Liverpool FC's pass and move football must seem like a bad joke !

Honestly we do not have a brand of football except brand S***e

[RedMurph08]

Yes poor to watch once again..... Kuyt just didnt seem to know what to do with the ball, again stevie g driving us on and no-one to help him out. Riise had another stinker.We only looked threatening when Crouchy and Kewell came on.

[vodkacolly]

I seriously think there is friction between Rafa and Crouch. I dont remember Crouchie having a dip in form to warrant being constantly dropped. Voronin is playing poor and Kuyt has been off form for a while yet still Crouch only gets a run out towards the end of a game. When he first came to the club he went on that mad run of games without scoring but Rafa stuck by him. Maybe its just another sign of Rafa's stubborness?

[wickla_mucker]

was delighted to see harry back... made an impression on the game... lets hope that he stays free of injury and gets a good run.

crouch has to start next game with kuyt - kuyts finishing is woeful of late - lets hope that picks up.

how bad was babel the other day? absolutely brutal.

very happy with stevie - looks like his form is returning!

[Jockser]

I admire some of the optimisim in here but im f*cking depressed

[Aido82]

I admire some of the optimisim in here but im f*cking depressed

same here

i was over there for it, did nothin but travelling on planes trains and boats this weekend.

Flew over got the train to wigan then to blackburn return, then got up yesterday morning at 630am to get flight home, all flights from liverpool were cancelled due to fog. then had to wait for the boat at 10pm (7hours) just home in sligo now, knackered, dont even remeber saturday thats how knackered i am

[Yoko]

Re Kuyt - well done all, slam the lad. His confidence is obviously low. Where were you all standing when Crouch went on his nine thousand match barren run.

Kuyt is personally responsible for 4 points this season (2 V Everton and 2 V Villa) He's getting into the spots, he'll get it right eventually.

[redeagle]

Re Kuyt - well done all, slam the lad. His confidence is obviously low. Where were you all standing when Crouch went on his nine thousand match barren run.

Kuyt is personally responsible for 4 points this season (2 V Everton and 2 V Villa) He's getting into the spots, he'll get it right eventually.

agreed, but don't you think as a lone striker he is somewhat limited?

Playing off and linking up with another forward are his strong points.

I think our confidence is been effected all over the place.

[trevufc]

Kuyt is personally responsible for 4 points this season (2 V Everton and 2 V Villa) He's getting into the spots, he'll get it right eventually.


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[RedMurph08]

Re Kuyt - well done all, slam the lad. His confidence is obviously low. Where were you all standing when Crouch went on his nine thousand match barren run.

Kuyt is personally responsible for 4 points this season (2 V Everton and 2 V Villa) He's getting into the spots, he'll get it right eventually.

Hmmmmmm. A striker is bought to score goals fair enough he " works like a horse" but every thread with Kuyt in it has that exact same quote. Who was the top scorer last year? If u think Kuyt is responsible for 4 points this season then take Gerrard out of the team and we r fighting with Derby and Bolton at the end of the season not Chelski and Man ure! Kuyt is just not the world class finisher we need, can see Rafa playing Kewell off Torres when both are fit tbh.:(

[Jockser]

how many points is kuyt responsible for us dropping this season? how long do we have to give him til he gets it right? thats if he will at all of course. I dont want a striker who works like a horse i want him to put away the chances he gets. Kuyt doesnt do this....never has in a red jersey. Time to bench him and give Peter a chance AND also time for a consistant strike partnership to develop as changing them every week helps no one

[Yoko]

agreed, but don't you think as a lone striker he is somewhat limited?

Playing off and linking up with another forward are his strong points.

I think our confidence is been effected all over the place.

I do agree about that. I'm not sure that any of our strikers can play a lone role though. Rafa seems to be intent on playing two holders in MF and it is affecting our overall play

take Gerrard out of the team and we r fighting with Derby and Bolton


A Myth.

Now if anyone has been poor this season.....

[carragherisgod]

Guys, seriously. Are we not meant to support our team? I grant you it's tough to see use challenge for the title with the results we're getting at the moment but come on. I think the Premier League is much tougher this season. Everybody is more than capable of taking points from each other. It could be a lot worse. United or Arsenal could have won at the weekend. Be supportive of the the lads. They'll come good. Wait and see.

[Yoko]

we're 6 points off the pace and not playing well. We are also missing 4/5 first team regulars (or half a team) This is a good sign IMO as things will get better.

Plus a point at Ewood may look a good result come the end of the season

[RedNip]

Re Kuyt - well done all, slam the lad. His confidence is obviously low. Where were you all standing when Crouch went on his nine thousand match barren run.
Kuyt is personally responsible for 4 points this season (2 V Everton and 2 V Villa) He's getting into the spots, he'll get it right eventually.

Nobody is "slamming the lad" were just stating the obvious if we want to win the PL we need a better striker than Dirk! he's not good enough end of story & lets not forget he was poor at the end of last season. one 1/4 of the way though the season has he scored from play yet!

The one major different between Crouch's barren run & Dirk's barren run is that Crouch looked like scoring he also was creating chances for others. Dirk does nether!

Kuyt is personally responsible for the points at Everton & Villa not true mate yes! he coolly knock in the penalty's against the bitters but lets not forget here! A poor & slow everton defence had a field-day against him which in turn put us under a lot of pressure!

I do agree if his confidence is gone he shouldn't be playing & Rafa has to take some of blame here & it does seem to be a worrying trend under Rafa that our wingers & forward players are always struggling for confidence maybe something to do with all the chopping & chancing! but kuyt is never dropped...?

A Myth.

Now if anyone has been poor this season.....

A Myth!! A Poor Season!! Your having a laugh mate.....

Just imagine he wasn't in the team last Saturday against Blackburn how poor we would of been!! Exactly! not wroth talking about

Lets just check this Myth out!! First ten matches

Aston Villa MOTM
Chelsea MOTM
Wigan MOTM
Arsenal MOTM
Blackburn MOTM
And for good measure you can throw-in
Porto
Besiktas
Cardiff

[Yoko]

I'm not saying that Kuyt is playing any where near good enough. I believe that he's capable of more, and I back him to show us

Gerrard has played well this season?? At his best is he? Or anywhere near? By his own admission he hasn't. Yes he's been improving of late - but anywhere near his best absolutely not.

I hate this we're all about Gerrard nonsense. I'm off now to root out that stats of when we play with and without for a comparison...

[RedNip]

I'm not saying that Kuyt is playing any where near good enough. I believe that he's capable of more, and I back him to show us
You!! believe he's capable of more! well I don't.. & don't say this lightly I spent over two years living & playing football in Holland & have a keen interest in Dutch football! Name me a striker in the PL that is as slow as Dirk is! name me a player in the whole of the PL that as a worse touch than Dirk & trust me! "you will struggle" & I don't like criticizing any of our players or manager but how someone who is obsessed with the minor details of the game like Rafa is! can pay ten million :eek: for this lad! is just amazing.


Gerrard has played well this season?? At his best is he? Or anywhere near? By his own admission he hasn't. Yes he's been improving of late - but anywhere near his best absolutely not.

Truth here mate is that! his dip in form had to do with his broken foot! & he cant just come out & say he shouldn't of played for England! so to plz everyone he say he had a dip in form!!


I hate this we're all about Gerrard nonsense. I'm off now to root out that stats of when we play with and without for a comparison...

Sure! maybe we'll sell him hey!!

There is probably 5 truly great players playing in the PL at the moment & I've no doubt Gerrard is at the very top of that list & he his probably the greatest player this club has ever produce anyone who was lucky enough to see him play as kid will back this up & anyone who thinks we are a better side without Steven Gerrard :eek: is ****in mad sorry mate :D

[Yoko]

RedNip careful about your interpretation of others posts would ya, you have attributed some truly wild interpretations on every one of my points.

[RedMurph08]

I'm not saying that Kuyt is playing any where near good enough. I believe that he's capable of more, and I back him to show us

Gerrard has played well this season?? At his best is he? Or anywhere near? By his own admission he hasn't. Yes he's been improving of late - but anywhere near his best absolutely not.

I hate this we're all about Gerrard nonsense. I'm off now to root out that stats of when we play with and without for a comparison...

That was 4 oclock you went to root those stats out about Gerrard....... He may not be at his best but he is dragging us through this sticky patch.......Bud no-one is on your case, forums are all about individual opinions, the common ground we all have here is our beloved LFC. If we all thought the same this forum would be boring!:D

[Yoko]

That was 4 oclock you went to root those stats out about Gerrard.......

Can't find them but I know they exist :D

[Fish2]

Missing Agger at the back to bring the ball forward. Neither Sami or Carra have the distribution as we all know. Also without Alonso that means we are missing the two players who form the nucleus of our distribution game.

[carramagic]

Everytime Kuyt pulls on a red jersey I hope he does well and I would love to see him score tonight. Long term though I don't think he is good enough for Liverpool FC. Decent players will always get chances to score in a top team and Kuyt is a decent player. He is nothing near world class though. Someone came on here and said he has great touch and is a great passer! His touch is very dodgy and I think most fans can see that. He plays many passes astray also. Determination brought Kuyt from non-league football to dutch footballer of the year and the champions league final. Who knows, maybe it can bring him through this and to the next level. The problem is at times he looks like a conference player. Football can change quickly though. Something goes right for him, some confidence appears and he could go on a good run. If Gerrard had stuck away that chance Kuyt laid on for him (best move of the match) and Kuyt had stuck away one of his easy chances there would be a very different thread about Kuyt. He didn't though and unless something drastic happens I can't see how Dirk Kuyt's position isn't one where we could bring someone else in and improve the team