Passport controls planned between Ireland and the UK

TO be honest as you've always needed I.D. I've always just brought a passport anyway!

 

When it comes to flying I doubt this is going to be too much of an inconvenience. Everytime I arrive at Stansted or Heathrow I'm asked to flash some sort of id. Now that I think of it, I'm asked for id most times I arrive in Dublin on a flight from Cork! Could be a pain at ferry ports though if they don't allow for a smooth flow of traffic off the boats.

 

I would have thought that not much would change in this respect. Flights from Ireland will still land in Terminal 1, and avoid the huge queues at passport control that exist in Terminal's 2,3,4 and 5. Hope I'm right anyway, otherwise travelling across the water will turn into a nightmare.

 

At the end of the day, your travelling to a different country, and with the amount of illegal immigrants travelling around these days its about time to be honest

 

We've all needed passports to travel between one and the other, since the incidents in New York, as you won't be allowed anywhere near a departure gate without one.

It's the National ID Card proposals that worry me. You don't know who has access to that information, what it will be used for, and when you will be asked to produce it. Unfortunately, I literally have to bring my passport everywhere when on holiday, as I could be asked to produce it at any time, as only us and the Brits don't have a national ID card system. It's a massive assault on civil liberties, and makes me grateful that we don't have it here...yet.

 

The last couple of years you always needed a passport to fly with Ryanair anyway, so can't see it being any different, as for the ques you'll just go through the blue gate for EU passangers, so won't take any longer.

 

Sad to see the likes of this - so much for the EU bringing freedom of movement between member states and all that

 

Despite a few posts to the contrary you haven't *needed* to have a passport to travel between the two countries the last few years whether with Ryanair or not. Most definately haven't needed it on the boats so don't know why people think its just the same as before ? I always opted to not bring a passport since its an awkward shape for a pocket and obviously the worse thing you could lose hassle wise.

Yes you're travelling from one country to another but within the EU this has been way more hassle free than travelling outside it and that was by design, its half the point of the EU as Garrett alluded to. No internal borders was the real aim with obvious efficiencies for business and leisure travel and shipping. Stringent intra-border controls is a big cop in this regard. This is added to the dubious modern practices of airlines and airports with basically no regard for its customers is highly likely to make people miss their flights.

Spain was one of the first to introduce these kinda controls and put it this way I've seen the future and it ain't pretty. I've definitely consciously cut down on trips because of the increased hassle of air travel and know plenty of others that have done the same.

There may be reasons for it but the completely ridiculous situations I've witnessed since similiarly justified new security measures were introduced doesn't fill me with confidence over how this will implemented. Has anybody noticed that in Liverpool airport you have to buy your plastic bag for your liquids from a vending machine, pay to go through an express security check (at the same time the "normal" one became suspiciously much slower and thats before 6 in the morning) and they have another vending machine for buying stamped envelopes for 4 pound to send aftershave/perfume/lighters that aren't allowed through. I've seen massive profiteering from those security measures, massive baggage charges for items you can't carry through being a prime example. To a certain extent (why 100ml is a magic number I dunno) a justified measure but the implementation has been to take the customer up the sh*tter ! and many a missed flight.

Being from Wexford believe me half the custom for boat travel comes from the fact that you can hop on the yokes hassle free booking on a whim even the day before. No passport, in Wales in under 2 hours. Kids do it all the time especially during the Summer and many wouldn't have passports and deffo wouldn't want to be carrying them. I'd hate to see what effect it would have on that mode of transport given the unbelievably massive hit they already took with the duty free change.

Anyway point is that there most certainly are repercussions, its not same old same old.

 

Whats gonna happen to the folk living in the border counties? Are they gonna have to flash a passport everytime they hop across the border cos the last time I checked Northern Ireland was still part of the UK.

 

There is freedom of movement, having to show your passport doesn't change anything.