Liverpool v Villa - 24/08/09 20:00

[CrazyHorse]

Lets continue where we left off.

Villa are on a downer after the Wigan result, and we're on a high.

Another 3 points is a must at home.
2-0
:)

[eoinlfc101]

id say it could be trickier than we expect o neill will play for a draw i reckon 2 1 myself we need to score early and if we do we will push on is the o neill bubble about to burst

[ronnie10]

Can see us getting three goals on monday, well hoping anyway. Think Rafa will play the same team except for Ayala maybe. Think the way the team wwas set up was spot on as Johnson and Insua give us so much needed width and act like wing backs rather than full backs.
Torres to score two and Lucas the third.
Would gratefully take a one nil win though :D

[padski08]

I can also see us getting 3 goals. I think Villa are little shocked and will be tired after last nights exploits. Like to see Torres and Johnson link up again. Also maybe a debut for Kyrgiakos. Lets hope Benitez has got what we need - another solid defender

This is not forgone conclussion of a game but think we have upper hand and 3 points will be perfect confidence boost with some 'easier' games coming up

[mccoydromintee]

Football is a fickle old game, and moods change amazingly. We SHOULD win, but I don't know.

Played two Monday night games last year – Everton and West Ham – and only picked up two points.

Nightime games bring a better atmosphere, and more expectancy.

I see no reason to change the team unless Skrtl is fit.

Play Macherano a wee bit deeper continuing his role of bringing it out of defence. I say as Lucas' confidence grows, he will become a lot more involved in attacking play.

Villa are at a low ebb at the moment, but reactions and all that.

Our centre halfs will need to be a bit more decisive and dominant.

O'Neill will instruct Shorey and Young to push on Johnson as much as possible, this will be the acid test and he will need Dirk to be on top of his game defensively as well.

With Heskey likely to start up top we can expect plenty of high ball, if Skrtl is in the line up I hope they do employ that tactic,, but Ayala did well from set pieces against Stoke.

[Phil!]

We are definately strong enough to beat Villa and if we play like Wednesday we will. Think we should start with the same team as all did fine during the week. Think Villa will sit back and attempt to hit us on the brek with the pace of Young and Agbonlohor so Mach will need a big game to break up these attacks and its important that Carra and Ayala/Skrtel dont get caught out.


Think we will be stronger in the end..

Liverpool 2-1 Villa

[mascherIANO]

Liverpool 3-1 Villa
Torres
Gerrard
Kuyt

[shibox]

can't find this match on any tv listings. is it on telly at all?

Jaysus that'll be 2 matches out of 3 with no live coverage this season. Last year it was possible to see nearly every match on one channel or another.:(

[GaryMc]

Espn

[kingofthekop]

Espn

Was watchin MLS a few nights ago. they said its on ESPN2. does anybody know if thats just ESPN2 in the U.S. or do you need to have ESPN2 here too?? I only got ESPN and ESPN CLASSIC.

Otherwise it looks like another night in the pub!! :p

[Podgecheco]

Otherwise it looks like another night in the pub!! :p

Disaster.....

[Ron1892]

My first game over there this season and i think we'll do it 2-0...I can see stevie bagging one and torres bagging the second...And a fcuking great night too..

[Huggie]

Was at last two Villa home matches 07/08 finished 2-2 and who can forget last season 08/09 finished 5-0. Can see it finishing 3-1. Hopefully thats the way it will finish. First game of the season for me so can't wait.

[MrsPepe]

Ye are all so lucky to get over to most of the games

[redabbey]

Was at last two Villa home matches 07/08 finished 2-2 and who can forget last season 08/09 finished 5-0. Can see it finishing 3-1. Hopefully thats the way it will finish. First game of the season for me so can't wait.

Ronan, here's hoping that Reina gets another wonderful assist like the kickout for the Riera goal.

[IDon'tKnow]

We should win this game, Villa are on a poor run at the moment.

Well we should win all our home games, but that never going to happen someone will always put 11 behind the ball and make it hard.

Don't want to start with drawing games this early in the season thats what killed us last season. And the thought of losing is unthinkable.

An early goal and I think we could hit a few past them. Think this will be a tight game and won by the odd goal so I will go for a 1-0. Goal by Gerrard.

[kaiser_del]

I reckon we'll win 2-0 with Yossi and Nando scoring.Villa look in disarray at the moment + I can see them finishing 7th or 8th this season MON has made no signings + their squad is skin and bones!

[LUCAN RED!!!]

i say maybe 1 or 2-0 torres and gerrard

[Beanokelly]

It's my firsy game this season so hopefully we have a good tempo about our game and get an early goal and even go in at half time with a 2 goal advantage that would be ideal because then villa would have to come out and attack

[CrazyHorse]

We should win this game, Villa are on a poor run at the moment.

Well we should win all our home games, but that never going to happen someone will always put 11 behind the ball and make it hard.

Don't want to start with drawing games this early in the season thats what killed us last season. And the thought of losing is unthinkable.

An early goal and I think we could hit a few past them. Think this will be a tight game and won by the odd goal so I will go for a 1-0. Goal by Gerrard.
Villa aren't the type to park the bus imo.. if anything they'll leave themselves exposed, hence I can see nothing but a home win.

[vincenzo]

Same tempo as the Stoke game and we should win this one handy enough.

[liver06]

villa aren't the type to park the bus imo.. If anything they'll leave themselves exposed, hence i can see nothing but a home win.

your so rite!this time last week i remember a few talking sh#te!

[Shels-07]

3 points will do! Torres will be explosive tonight.. Wait and see.. I have that feeling.. I'm in the KOP 4 this 1 305..

[edcarroll02]

Well i think were playing them at a good time, i know that sometimes teams can have a bounce back effect after a bad result but i don't really think that Villa will have themselves sorted out for this one. Its essential that we just hit them with everything we've got from the start, if we get one in early enough i think they'll fall apart and we'll win comfortably. The longer it goes on without a goal the more belief they'll have.

I'd go with the same team as last time out except i'm sure we're going to see our new centre back coming in for Ayala.

[Beanokelly]

Skrtel might play it's down the doctor and rafa to see and I'm not to sure if the greek lad is match full

[Rizzo]

very few pubs seem to have ESPN. Anyone know any bars in Kildare Town/Newbridge area with ESPN? Might have to rely on streaming/5Live/Newstalk/SSN tonight!!

[Fluffy]

Another 5-0 kicking of Villa tonight.

[Rover 609]

Skrtel might play it's down the doctor and rafa to see and I'm not to sure if the greek lad is match full

I'd have no problem seeing young Ayala start again tonight,in fact i hope he does.Gut feeling says this lad could be about to burst on to the scene something none of us would have expected like.

[graham]

I'd have no problem seeing young Ayala start again tonight,in fact i hope he does.Gut feeling says this lad could be about to burst on to the scene something none of us would have expected like.

I was never a huge fan of Ayala but he's been brilliant so far for the first team

[Fluffy]

I'd have no problem seeing young Ayala start again tonight,in fact i hope he does.Gut feeling says this lad could be about to burst on to the scene something none of us would have expected like.Theres only one way to find out it he`s good enough.
Rafa doesn`t give the kids much of a chance of playing in the 1st team.
He seems to prefer buying ready made players than playing kids that are with us for a few years.
Ayala looks ready,blood him Rafa.

[Beanokelly]

I'd have no problem seeing young Ayala start again tonight,in fact i hope he does.Gut feeling says this lad could be about to burst on to the scene something none of us would have expected like.

I agree ronan but rafa might go with what he classes his best avaliable 11 Just hope babel isn't in the squad

[edcarroll02]

Theres only one way to find out it he`s good enough.
Rafa doesn`t give the kids much of a chance of playing in the 1st team.
He seems to prefer buying ready made players than playing kids that are with us for a few years.
Ayala looks ready,blood him Rafa.

I think after Insua's seamless transition to the first team Rafa will be much more inclined to move players on that he feels are ready. I suspect Kelly could be our cover at right back for the season and Ayala getting a good game under his belt has really improved his chances of more first team football.

[Fluffy]

I think after Insua's seamless transition to the first team Rafa will be much more inclined to move players on that he feels are ready. I suspect Kelly could be our cover at right back for the season and Ayala getting a good game under his belt has really improved his chances of more first team football.Hope so.
Ngog,Spearing,Nemeth,Eccleston,Pacheco,Dalla Valle,Mavinga,Buchtmann,BRUNA,Simon etc should save us millions in transfer fees leaving us able to bid against the heavyweights for the best players in the world.
Depends on how many Rafa brings through.

Anyway,tonight is a good night to bring in Ayala.
Villa have lost two games in a row in the EPL and Europe and Ayala needs games to boost his confidence and experience.

[CHRIS1892]

I'd love another comprehensive win over Villa to shut O'Neill up. Three points are the main thing, but a few goals WOULD be very nice thank you! I'll go for 3-0, Nando, Stevie & Benny!

[kelly jones]

http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/blog/?p=388

[Melion]

Is anyone worried about Ayala tonight against Carew and Heskey? He looks very lightweight and im not sure about him in the air. I could see those 2 having a good night against him and Carra.

[graham]

Is anyone worried about Ayala tonight against Carew and Heskey? He looks very lightweight and im not sure about him in the air. I could see those 2 having a good night against him and Carra.

yeah I was thinking that myself. Although he handled the Stoke lads surprisingly well. we'll see. Skrtel isnt a definate out yet

[Fluffy]

Is anyone worried about Ayala tonight against Carew and Heskey? He looks very lightweight and im not sure about him in the air. I could see those 2 having a good night against him and Carra.Delap spent a whole game throwing high balls into the box straight at Ayala and he coped well.Anyway,Carew and Heskey will be spending so much time helping out their back line Ayala should have little to do.;)

[byrnetred]

Delap spent a whole game throwing high balls into the box straight at Ayala and he coped well.Anyway,Carew and Heskey will be spending so much time helping out their back line Ayala should have little to do.;)
thats if they both start,

i expect villa to start with 1 up front and 5 in the middle

[Fluffy]

thats if they both start,

i expect villa to start with 1 up front and 5 in the middleSame here.
O`Neill will be happy to defend for this game and try to nick it with 1 goal.We need an early goal against these Mickey Mouse clubs that play 11 behind the ball.
Johnston and Insua overlapping will make a big difference this year.

[edcarroll02]

Is anyone worried about Ayala tonight against Carew and Heskey? He looks very lightweight and im not sure about him in the air. I could see those 2 having a good night against him and Carra.

I was under the impression that Carew picked up some sort of injury playing for Norway just before the season started, don't think he's played their first two games and i would be happy enough to not see his name on the team sheet today too!

Either way the only way that Ayala can prove he's able to play against tougher opposition is to play against them!! There's no easy way and we can't sit here an complain that Rafa doesn't give youngsters a chance and then when a chance opens up change our minds.

[carpentertim]

An early goal would kill villa and should open up some space for us

[RedDrog]

same team as stoke game i would presume.. 3 points is what is needed and we should get them. johnson and insua to shine again

[The St John]

i'll take a 1-0,with stevie scoring

[mascherIANO]

an early goal would be ideal. they will have to come out to play and well just pick them off as there be more space.

[CHRIS1892]

Have to say Re Ayala, he looked a little nervous/shaky in pre-season, especially against Atletico, but since he got a sniff he has done alright. I wouldn't be worried about having him in the side tonight.

[Malzheimer]

I wonder is there any way Rafa would consider starting the new Greek lad tonight with Heskey in mind. I would worry about Ayala against the Hesk but hopefully our defence doesn't have much to do tonight.

An early goal and I think the floodgates could open Villa have one of the weakest defences in the league at the minute imo. Can't wait for it now anyway need to gather some momentum after Stoke, I hope and think we should win comfortably, but I would take a scrappy one nil.

[jayjay]

As a lot of others have eluded to, early goal would be give us a open game. We usually destroy teams when the game is open.

[graham]

I wonder is there any way Rafa would consider starting the new Greek lad tonight with Heskey in mind. I would worry about Ayala against the Hesk but hopefully our defence doesn't have much to do tonight.

An early goal and I think the floodgates could open Villa have one of the weakest defences in the league at the minute imo. Can't wait for it now anyway need to gather some momentum after Stoke, I hope and think we should win comfortably, but I would take a scrappy one nil.

Apparently the Greek lad isnt match fit so he can't play. Not sure how fit you have to be to play centre half

[Liverpool-law]

Can't see Villa opening us up unless we make a defensive botch up. If we approach this in the right way we should win comfortably, let's see a nice positive approach to the game and wipe them off the pitch.

[jayjay]

Apparently the Greek lad isnt match fit so he can't play. Not sure how fit you have to be to play centre half

Think we might we Skittles... apparently healing nice and quickly.

[jayjay]

Can't see Villa opening us up unless we make a defensive botch up. If we approach this in the right way we should win comfortably, let's see a nice positive approach to the game and wipe them off the pitch.

Agreed, but I'm a little worried about their delivery from set pieces. Even without Barry to take em. Hopefully we don't concede many corners or free kicks around the box

[Venom1983]

I hope everybody is right about Villa being open tonight but considering the beating we gave them last season and their poor start to the season i wouldn't be surprised to see them take a cautious approach tonight.

Apparently they played 4-5-1 in vienna and it wouldn't shock me if we saw the same again tonight

[bobby benitez]

Anyone know if this is on newstalk tonight?

[LFC Barry]

Quite confident about this one. Villa are nowhere near the team they were last year after the loss of Laursen and Barry.

Same team as stoke and we should win comfortably

[JMurray#8]

Confident going into this one, villa on the back of 2 defeats after just losing to rapid vienna, I mean how bad do you have to be to lose to rapid:rolleyes:

[eoinlfc101]

i disagree barry riera should start tonight for his defence side bring yossi on at 60 mins bobs your uncle

[carpe diem]

dont think we'll run riot on them like last season(hopefully we do),they'll be looking for something from the game on the back of the wigan defeat and losing in the europa qualifier thursday,they will be dangerous from set pieces,carew is set to start so we will have to be careful but we have more than enough going foward to win this 2-0/1.

[graham]

I think Villa might nick a goal from set piece.
3-1 to the Reds

[dubit10]

I'll take a win, any kind of win.

[Span Molby]

Any win is greatfully accepted, but im going for 2nil to us, Gerrard and Kuyt

[gav003]

The Reds XI in full is: Reina, Insua, Johnson, Skrtel, Carragher, Lucas, Mascherano, Kuyt, Benayoun, Gerrard, Torres. Subs: Cavalieri, Voronin, Riera, Ayala, Dossena, Kelly, Babel.

[robbie st leger]

no real surprise there now to go at them and get the 3 pts

[carpe diem]

get in there,skrtel is back !!!

[JMurray#8]

That starting 11 is probably our strongest and pretty much what we expected. Good to see skrtel there just hope up against carew that his jaw stays fine...

No ngog on the bench today, obviously then voronin is 2nd choice a head of him. Can only see reira coming on to make a difference if needed, other than that bringing on babel or voronin for any of the starting 11 to grab a goal is a biy iffy but i don't think we'll need that to happen anyway...

[Ali]

Anyone got a weblink to this?

[carpe diem]

lally will be on the case no doubt,best to check in a few minutes before kick off ali.

[JMurray#8]

Lally has posted this site a few times and has worked for me pretty well. As said you'll have better luck closer to kick off to find the best one but generally any of the links under the "media player" heading work well...

http://lfcglobe.com/stream-links-liverpool-vs-aston-villa-h/

[elvis]

http://iraqgoals.net/ch4.html
http://iraqgoals.net/game1743.html
http://www.atdhe.net/8714/watch-liverpool--vs-aston-villa
http://lfcglobe.com/stream-links-liverpool-vs-aston-villa-h/
Theres 4 links for anyone who needs them.

[Ali]

Thanking you all!

[1one80eighty]

Cheers for the links lads. None of my locals have ESPN, what a nightmare!

[JMurray#8]

Don't rate nicky shory at all so villa are there to be taken down the left which is good for johnson and kuyt I think...

[RedRay1]

http://iraqgoals.net/ch4.html
http://iraqgoals.net/game1743.html
http://www.atdhe.net/8714/watch-liverpool--vs-aston-villa
http://lfcglobe.com/stream-links-liverpool-vs-aston-villa-h/
Theres 4 links for anyone who needs them.

Nothin is shown when I go on to these links is it because its too early. Also are any of these in english. Thanks in advance

[1one80eighty]

I'm surprised with the Villa line-up. Playing Agbonlahor up front alone shouldn't be too much cause for concern. He has pace, but is very lightweight, and I can't see the likes of Reo-Coker and Beye doing anything but lumping it forward to him rather than play it into feet, which should be bread and butter for Carragher and Skrtel.

The biggest threat will be from Milner and Young. They like to switch sides, and I just hope that Insua and Johnson don't get caught too far up the field too often.

[graham]

Carew isnt in their starting 11. I think they have Agbonlahor up front on his own

[JMurray#8]

I'm surprised with the Villa line-up. Playing Agbonlahor up front alone shouldn't be too much cause for concern. He has pace, but is very lightweight, and I can't see the likes of Reo-Coker and Beye doing anything but lumping it forward to him rather than play it into feet, which should be bread and butter for Carragher and Skrtel.

The biggest threat will be from Milner and Young. They like to switch sides, and I just hope that Insua and Johnson don't get caught too far up the field too often.

I wouldn't be too worried about that with javier in the side...

[1one80eighty]

I wouldn't be too worried about that with javier in the side...

Very fair point: Prime example of that was against Spurs with a few minutes remaining. Insua was caught up the pitch, Spurs broke, but Masch was there to break things up and cover.

[GaryMc]

http://www.justin.tv/tonmon2

[1one80eighty]

http://iraqgoals.net/ch4.html

This is working. The guys in the studio are absolute heroes.

[carpentertim]

surprised to see no Ngog on the bench

[CrazyHorse]

How did we NOT score there!!! FFS

[Ali]

http://iraqgoals.net/ch4.html

This is working. The guys in the studio are absolute heroes.

That's a magic link.
Anyone likin' how Carra is carryin on the boho headband look?;) Very cool:D

[MrsPepe]

carra aka Rambo:D

[carpentertim]

our speed on the break has really improved

[1one80eighty]

our speed on the break has really improved

Unfortunately, Kuyt is guilty of slowing our breaks down time and time again.

[barrydoherty]

I must be the only one who iraqgoals link does not work :( anyone got any other one thats works, justintv is blocked so tried all them

[Podgecheco]

im just in from astro how we playing?

[MrsPepe]

I must be the only one who iraqgoals link does not work :( anyone got any other one thats works, justintv is blocked so tried all them

http://iraqgoals.net/game1743.html they are all stopping and starting

[JMurray#8]

Villa seem to want to make Nando's black eye worse...

[Don_Corleone]

jammy cnuts

[Ali]

It's gonna be one of those nights. Sheeeeite!

[robbie st leger]

ah bollix to it

[A-Train]

Robbed a goal!

[Juan]

nice finish lucas. ffs!

[JMurray#8]

Fu*k sake, a stupid dflected og.

[MrsPepe]

welll fccccccccckkkkk it

[1one80eighty]

Oh for God's sake.

To be honest, Liverpool have been very one-dimensional going forward. Gerrard and Torres are all too predictable so far. The central midfield duo will not go more than five yards forward with a pass, and Carragher is simply lumping the ball up. I'm genuinely worried.

[The Kopfather]

FXXXXXXXXXXXCK

Plenty of time left

[General]

What the hell was Lucas trying to do? We've been muck so far against a crap team-need to lift it big time. Still think Gerrard has to play in the middle until Aquilani is fit!

[JMurray#8]

We've been too easy to read. Every pass is being cut out and every time Torres touches the ball there's 2 or 3 villa players around him.

Crowd are dead too...

[1one80eighty]

I don't believe it.

[CrazyHorse]

**** it!!

[Don_Corleone]

what the hell is happening ????

[A-Train]

Thats terrible! 2 down at half time and out of it! Terrible

[robbie st leger]

some load of shite out there tonight some players need a fookin rocket up the arse

[LUCAN RED!!!]

2-0

[JMurray#8]

Before the first free kick and before that corner I just knew villa would score.

[Gray72]

What a load of absolute tripe. We are bloody toothless and Torres is just getting nothing to feed on. We have no creative spark. Surely we can't be as bad in the 2nd half???:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[kaiser_del]

load of boll1x!

[robbie st leger]

Thats terrible! 2 down at half time and out of it! Terrible

thats it stay positive ffs!!!

[up the pool]

fcuking terrible shit they deserve everything they get the whole team is fcucking awfull:mad:

[Redsfan]

What the f**k are we playing at. Sh**e performance so far. This is very concerning alright.

[GaryMc]

too much fckin whinging from the players, what was Reina at, stupid. Lucas gave stupid foul away for he free kick as well.

Trying too many flicks and step overs. Lucas off, Gerrard in the middle and go for it.

Villa are brutal and we are making them look good.

[JMurray#8]

Now I know rafa never makes changes at half time but reira should be brought on for someone like insua and go 3 at the back...

[1one80eighty]

You can say that Torres is getting little service, and that is true, but his touch is very heavy tonight. I accept that Villa are doubling up on him, but that's still no excuse for a poor first touch. Gerrard is a bystander thus far. Yossi has been surprisingly wasteful in possession. There is absolutely no need for Masch and Lucas now, given the score. Dirk looks like a passenger.

I'm not saying that the game is beyond Liverpool, but so many things have to change.

As one of you have said, there is far too much back-talk from the players. The players seem to be paying too much attention to the crowd's reaction rather than focusing on the task at hand.

[carpe diem]

seems like the players have underestimated villa,thats the way it looks,gerrard and benni need to take control,i still would write us off yet,have backed us @ 10/3 draw no bet.

[robbie st leger]

more than just lucas what about kuyt what the **** has he done benayoun aswell has been anonymous pity we can only make 3 changes cos some need a fookin slap for putting in aperformance like that abysmal

[Trevinem]

come on lads chin up....3-2 to the reds at FT...Torres, Benayoun, Kuyt

[GaryMc]

Can be no complaints, that's the strongest team Rafa has barring Aqualini.

[JMurray#8]

This is what I was saying earlier, voronin won't change things and babel more than likely won't either so its up to the team out there now to change it...

[Gray72]

Torres just hasn't started the season well and seems to have a grump on every game. Now we have reina throwing a strop and we're 2 down. We just don't look capable of breaking teams down regularly. So we beat Stoke at home 4-0, so what we should do. Villa are the next level up so get a finger out and show some passion. i'll be suprised if we win from here, but stranger things have happened. Lucas is crap, fact!!!!!!!!!!!!

[General]

too much fckin whinging from the players, what was Reina at, stupid. Lucas gave stupid foul away for he free kick as well.

Trying too many flicks and step overs. Lucas off, Gerrard in the middle and go for it.

Villa are brutal and we are making them look good.

Immediately!! Lucas and Masch will never ever work together but we knew that already from last season!!

[zamaguire]

No idea in the middle of the park. Get Gerrard in there and keep him there.

[robbie st leger]

thats the bit that has me fookin worried

[D-Red]

Providing that we get an early goal in the second half then we can still win this game.

Big improvement needed but we're more than capable of turning this round still.

[Trevinem]

this is where we have to show our metal...come on lads dont loose faith....YNWA

[GaryMc]

Fcuk it lads, throw the kitchen sink at them now. Stand up and be counted. 4-2....

[Rebelred80]

For fcuk sake cannot believe this shite!!!

[JMurray#8]

Haven't lost at home since 2007 and thats not going to end tonight...

[The Kopfather]

come on lads chin up....3-2 to the reds at FT...Torres, Benayoun, Kuyt


+1

Exactly mate, this is a good game to win

[MrsPepe]

Providing that we get an early goal in the second half then we can still win this game.

Big improvement needed but we're more than capable of turning this round still.

Exactly, theres still 45 mins left

[dubit10]

Lol at the posters slagging Lucas off, the same one's who most likely would boo him at Anfield. The lad's been fantastic so far this season. Some real great "supporters" here.:rolleyes:

[Fowler-9-]

Positive ey lads....

Come on Reds

[Podgecheco]

Were not out of this yet lads come on we all know we can win it,were shocking in the centre id move stevie back and give babel his chance upfront

[Don_Corleone]

€15 on pool to win @ 9/2 paddypower

€5 on pool to score 4 or more @ 14/1

[robbie st leger]

Immediately!! Lucas and Masch will never ever work together but we knew that already from last season!!

did at old trafford last season no??

still wudnt have both of them in the middle together tho>

[Gray72]

We seem to have this thing were if we don't score early we struggle and that happened last year. I just can't see us getting three tonight. We look to Gerrard and Torres why can't Lucas, Benayoun, Mascherano step up for a change? Two chances, two goals!
:mad:

[Trevinem]

lads the games not over so lets stop slating the 11 on the pitch and get behind them...3-2 to us FT...come on reds

[Molby Is a Legend]

I see the lucas haters are back out in force, FFS lads lets get behind the team ok its not good enough but stop looking for scape goats we can still win this if we have the belief

[Redsfan]

Our long unbeaten home record is under serious threat now and we must have a right go at them in the second half. At least if we can restore some pride and get it back to 2-2, it will be something. Even a draw is not enough at this point of the season though.

[zamaguire]

€15 on pool to win @ 9/2 paddypower
Them odds are a joke

[Gray72]

Lol at the posters slagging Lucas off, the same one's who most likely would boo him at Anfield. The lad's been fantastic so far this season. Some real great "supporters" here.:rolleyes:

Lucas has played as best as he can but what I'll say is he doesn't have the quality at this level. He doesn't have a creative edge or goal in his body!! I'll eat my hat if he scores second half.

[CrazyHorse]

Not a good first half performance, we've been way too predictable, and not near enough players have put in a performance of note.

Reina himself has lost it, getting booked too, but he has the whole game right in front of him, and can see what we can see, hence his frustration.

Nothing could be done about their first goal, shit happens, but its the reaction to that goal, or rather, the lack of it that is most worrying.
The 2nd goal was a complete disaster.. Davis didn't even have to use his full height to get the header in, and worse of all, JC & Nando completely bottled the challenge.
If a certain Dutch player who plays for us and was on the field, and was one of those 2 players marking Davis, than his obituary would probs have been written by now.

No imagination out there tonight thus far, but Im not writing the Reds off yet, we are a better team than Villa, and we are more than capable of getting at least a point tonight, if not the full 3.

The crowd need to get behind their team out there, there waiting to be entertained, but sometimes that crowd need to give to the team first, tonight is one of those times.

We need something different out there tonight, Villa are alot more mobile than Stoke, and it was never gonna be a walk in the park, but as I said, we are the better team.

Enough of the negativity boys, if the real Reds come out in the 2nd half, we could win this yet.

[Don_Corleone]

Them odds are a joke

wont be a joke if i get €70 on top of my 15

[Podgecheco]

We seem to have this thing were if we don't score early we struggle and that happened last year. I just can't see us getting three tonight. We look to Gerrard and Torres why can't Lucas, Benayoun, Mascherano step up for a change? Two chances, two goals!
:mad:

A bit of positivity would be great mate complain after the game

[LUCAN RED!!!]

great start to second half

[Don_Corleone]

c'mon liverpool

against the kop

[Phil!]

Need to pick it up....Come on boys!!!!!

[General]

Don't fcukin tell me that Friedel is going to have another stormer against us!!

[Podgecheco]

iraqgoals is crap anything else?

[Liverpool-law]

An early goal will rock these guys come on!!!!!

We lost two all last season, we can't lose two in August this season....

[CrazyHorse]

iraqgoals is crap anything else?

Its in Spanish, the picture isnt perfect, but its working properly, no skipping, no jumping.


http://www.fotbollive.se/news_show_font-colorff0000just-nu-font-liverpool-aston-villa.html?id=8533148

Also, listen to one of the commentators pronunciation of our players, superb stuff!!

[Gray72]

Come on Torres for christ sake, get your head out your backside and stop sulking around.

[CrazyHorse]

Much much better performance, now we need a goal, YNWA!!!

[Don_Corleone]

fcuk sake

friedal again

[CrazyHorse]

...all over them!!!!!

[JMurray#8]

High balls into the box are just going to be met by villa every time...

[zamaguire]

Bloody keeper

[Don_Corleone]

fcuking stupid links

always freezing

[zamaguire]

perfect on Yes

[Podgecheco]

Its in Spanish, the picture isnt perfect, but its working properly, no skipping, no jumping.


http://www.fotbollive.se/news_show_font-colorff0000just-nu-font-liverpool-aston-villa.html?id=8533148

Also, listen to one of the commentators pronunciation of our players, superb stuff!!

Link wont work for me man can you try again please

[Gray72]

we're huffing and puffing and they're going to get a third!!

[CrazyHorse]

Voronin on for Lucas...

[Gray72]

Voronin for Lucas, things just get worse!

[Liverpool-law]

if we get one with even ten minutes to go they will crack, it's that first goal... come on lads

[barrydoherty]

Voronin for Lucas, things just get worse!

More attacking at least

[CrazyHorse]

Voronin for Lucas, things just get worse!

Give it rest, will ya...

He's another option for a goal, unlike lucas...

[MrsPepe]

http://124.217.246.69/en/file.php?f=2

[1one80eighty]

Unfortunately, we looked good for the first 15 minutes of the second half, but there's a bit of a lull again. Hopefully the team pick up the tempo once more.

[CrazyHorse]

if we get one with even ten minutes to go they will crack, it's that first goal... come on lads

Agreed...
Even with 5 minutes left, we can do it!!!

C'mon Redmen!!

[Molby Is a Legend]

Fooking typical so called supporters giving out cos things arent going our way, Sounding more like a manc site by the day,

[carpentertim]

come on

[CrazyHorse]

Get in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Liverpool-law]

Ha ha, bookies just lost a fortune

[Don_Corleone]

torresssssssssssssssssssssssssss

get fcuking in there son

[1one80eighty]

Great goal.

[A-Train]

Come on Nando get in! 1 more at least!!!

[General]

Get in there!!!

[CrazyHorse]

20 odd minutes..... WE CAN DO THIS LADS!!!!

[Podgecheco]

Nando you little roide

[Trevinem]

come on nando 1-2

[CrazyHorse]

Omfg!!!!!!

I dont believe SG just did that....

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot....
Reminds me of the game v Reading a couple of seasons back..

Disaster...

[1one80eighty]

Awful decision-making Gerrard.

[Liverpool-law]

fcuk

[The Kopfather]

ffs why did he have to hit it in off the cross bar. Why couldn't he just tap it straight it???

LOL... Come on the redmen

[JMurray#8]

Gerrard of all people...

[A-Train]

ah for f*** sake

[Trevinem]

fcuking typical

[Phil!]

B*llocks

[CrazyHorse]

Time for Babel to silence some critics.......

[The Kopfather]

Please ignore my last post. I missed their bloody goal writing it

[Gray72]

Reina loses his head, Gerrard loses his head anyone else? Villa have just played on our petulence!! It's just not going to be our night. Now they are all moaning.

[Phil!]

Couldn really see because of blurry pic but should we have had a penalty when Torres was taken out about 10 mins ago?

[StEtienne77]

Club in turmoil.

[corcaigh]

cant argue with that peno, feck it and feck the bloody links too!

[CrazyHorse]

Its not over yet.......
15 minutes, another one for us will put it right back in the balance... C'mon lads!!!

[1one80eighty]

Couldn really see because of blurry pic but should we have had a penalty when Torres was taken out about 10 mins ago?

Probably, but in fairness, Skrtel pretty much took out Reo-Coker a couple of minutes before that.

[robbie st leger]

Club in turmoil.

what a comment?????

[Phil!]

Ref detirmned not to give us a Peno

[StEtienne77]

what a comment?????

What a performance.

[Podgecheco]

What a performance.

if ya wanna moan go over to the red cafe

[Liverpool-law]

What a performance.

What a supporter

[Don_Corleone]

worst thing is we'll have to here the thunderbird after the game saying how good villa were etc

[CrazyHorse]

JC just offside.... FFS

[wheeliekop]

sweet jeasus,what a show. c'mon el pool.... 10-15 mins left....

[StEtienne77]

What a supporter

So you support the Yanks do you ?

[corkkopite]

Very frustrating having to watch this.too easy for villa just sitting back with 10 men behind the ball.Not looking good

[Liverpool-law]

So you support the Yanks do you ?

That is just a pathetic comment, don't be a twat mate

[carpentertim]

5 mins to go and a load leaving how do they get tickets

[Gray72]

An absolute shambolic performance tonight. From the minute benayoun missed his sitter in the first half we just got worse. The back four look woeful at the moment and poor old Johnson is expected to do everything for us. Neither Gerrard or Torres are playing well, Kuyt has missed several sitters and Benayoun done what he often does, go missing. I just don't see things getting better based on our bench and who is in the squad. It is worrying seeing Man City and Tottenham never mind Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea. Too many sideways passes, we lack a creative player or second striker.:mad:

[CrazyHorse]

90 minutes up, and so is the game by the looks of it....

[StEtienne77]

That is just a pathetic comment, don't be a twat mate

Merely making the point that the behind the scenes turmoil in the club is now showing on the players.

[zamaguire]

Club in turmoil.
What a load of crap.

[edcarroll02]

At least Babel is back to his best!! He'd shoot from the half way line if he ever tracked back that far!

Pretty bad performance alright but it was a bad stroke of luck that turned it on us, we don't have that cutting edge when teams sit back and Villa were able to do that all night. I don't think its the end of the world but we do need to get a good performance in. I think Kuyt is very poor in these kind of games, doesn't have the close control to deal with intricate passing and movement.

[Molby Is a Legend]

Lets put it down ot one of those nights ( no doubt there will be whoppers on in a few mins saying our league challenge is over, Club is in turmoil, Rafa needs to go etc etc,) we need to put it behind us and move on, We can afford to lose 4 games this season IMO and still win the league,

[dubit10]

Something seriously wrong at the club when you are bringing on the like of Voronin to win the game for you. Yanks out.

[JMurray#8]

****ing Devastated, completely gutted...

[CrazyHorse]

Merely making the point that the behind the scenes turmoil in the club is now showing on the players.

http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1598/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1598R-88654.jpg

Dont feed the troll lads....

[Don_Corleone]

thing is we were all over them and they get the goals

ahh feck it

unlucky thats all

[Podgecheco]

A fitting end to without a doubt the worst week of my life

[1one80eighty]

Merely making the point that the behind the scenes turmoil in the club is now showing on the players.

I don't think that there is any way to make that connection, and I think it's antagonistic of you to suggest that there is one.

[bobby benitez]

Paul Jewel is a cu*t.
A lot of our supporters are cu*ts too.

[Gray72]

Voronin and Babel have been absolutely useless and that's our impact players of the bench. We are in a sorry state yet again.
Unless we get in some quality before the window closes we will really struggle. this sort of game is going to be the norm at Anfield this season and unless we have a creative player who can turn the game the sideways passes from Mascherano and Lucas will just not win us games. Carragher looks a shadow of when he was at his best. Money money money, we don't have it and we're in the brown stuff based on this performance.

[dubit10]

Lets put it down ot one of those nights ( no doubt there will be whoppers on in a few mins saying our league challenge is over, Club is in turmoil, Rafa needs to go etc etc,) we need to put it behind us and move on, We can afford to lose 4 games this season IMO and still win the league,

No we can't

[LUCAN RED!!!]

full time

[A-Train]

Terrible match terrible performance, early in the season but dont look like doing anything this year! They just are missing that something maybe a central midfielder that can play a pinpoint ball please Aquaman save us!!!

[Rebelred80]

An absolute shambolic performance tonight. From the minute benayoun missed his sitter in the first half we just got worse. The back four look woeful at the moment and poor old Johnson is expected to do everything for us. Neither Gerrard or Torres are playing well, Kuyt has missed several sitters and Benayoun done what he often does, go missing. I just don't see things getting better based on our bench and who is in the squad. It is worrying seeing Man City and Tottenham never mind Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea. Too many sideways passes, we lack a creative player or second striker.:mad:

Couldn't agree more. This looked our strongest team tonight and we end up getting thumped. 3 points from nine is not nearly good enough. Will be a battle for fourth if things don't improve soon. The yanks need to give Rafa money to spend before its too late.

[graham]

whole team didn't play well. I knew Freidle was gonna stop everything

[dubit10]

Paul Jewel is a cu*t.
A lot of our supporters are cu*ts too.

Tell me something i don't know

[wheeliekop]

no.no.no

[Phil!]

No we can't

As long as we dont draw as many yes we can

[robbie st leger]

lame insipid performance too many so called big names didnt step up to the plate and with an almost full strength team out hard to see it being a successful season and that is not just based off tonight against spurs we were awful aswell too slow no spark

[General]

Much better performance 2nd half but unfortunately, the damage was done!! 3 pathetic goals to concede. Stevie G much more effective in the middle with Masch and he need to stay there until Aquilani is fit. This is not a pop at Lucas, it's just that him and Masch haven't got the balance required in the engine room.

[CrazyHorse]

Voronin and Babel have been absolutely useless and that's our impact players of the bench. We are in a sorry state yet again.

Stupid, daft and wrong...

Again, its easy to make scapegoats of these guys...


Im out of here before the muppets arrive...

Damn, they're already here...
:mad:

[StEtienne77]

http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1598/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1598R-88654.jpg

Dont feed the troll lads....

Oh right, great win tonight, great performance, well played, everything is roses. Bring on #19.

[redforever]

???? wheres the vision wheres the spark? cant believe this I hope its just a blip.

[LUCAN RED!!!]

Voronin and Babel have been absolutely useless and that's our impact players of the bench. We are in a sorry state yet again.
Unless we get in some quality before the window closes we will really struggle. this sort of game is going to be the norm at Anfield this season and unless we have a creative player who can turn the game the sideways passes from Mascherano and Lucas will just not win us games. Carragher looks a shadow of when he was at his best. Money money money, we don't have it and we're in the brown stuff based on this performance.

+1

[RedWally]

Crap...and it's not tonight it started.

[JMurray#8]

Lose 2 games in 38 last year and now 2 in 3 games thats improvement for you... Something is wrong with the attitude of the players and I think its coming from the attitude from the manager, something is deadly wrong at the club and its effecting everyone. Rafa will bring us the league but will it be under the yanks? Get the fu*king yanks out now...

[Molby Is a Legend]

No we can't

How many did the mancs lose last season? 5 was it? they will lose the same amount if not more, Chelsea will aswell, Spurs and City ok are doing well at the moment but it wont last all teams hit a bad patch we are having ours early, when spurs and city hit theres spurs havent got the players to pull them out of it and city have a team of superstars how will whing and moan when they are in theres. Mancs and chelsea and arsenal will all have bad patches, Ok its a terrible terrible result but its not the end of the world 32 games unbeaten at home it had to end at some stage so we need to start again so be it we can do it because WE ARE LIVERPOOL

[LUCAN RED!!!]

a great second half if we can turn our second half into our first half well then we have a better chance of winning the league this season

[zamaguire]

We are short in midfield and defence. I think skrtel and Agger at the back is the way forward, and by the time Aqualini and Agger are ready it could be too late.

[doddsy]

stevie me with a stupid tackle costing any sort of chance to get anything out of the game!!

[zamaguire]

Oh right, great win tonight, great performance, well played, everything is roses. Bring on #19.
Go to bed.

[CrazyHorse]

How many did the mancs lose last season? 5 was it? they will lose the same amount if not more, Chelsea will aswell, Spurs and City ok are doing well at the moment but it wont last all teams hit a bad patch we are having ours early, when spurs and city hit theres spurs havent got the players to pull them out of it and city have a team of superstars how will whing and moan when they are in theres. Mancs and chelsea and arsenal will all have bad patches, Ok its a terrible terrible result but its not the end of the world 32 games unbeaten at home it had to end at some stage so we need to start again so be it we can do it because WE ARE LIVERPOOL

I think your missing the point...
We ONLY lost 2 games in the whole of last season and didnt win the league...

[robbie st leger]

a great second half if we can turn our second half into our first half well then we have a better chance of winning the league this season

yes because the second half was 1-1 :confused::confused:

[vincenzo]

stevie me with a stupid tackle costing any sort of chance to get anything out of the game!!
Who was tracking the run from midfield??

[Gray72]

Stupid, daft and wrong...

Again, its easy to make scapegoats of these guys...


Im out of here before the muppets arrive...

Damn, they're already here...
:mad:

The muppets have gone mate, the games over. I just continually get annoyed with Babel when he plays and Voronin bless just doesn't cut the mustard. I'm not making scapegoats of them I am merely just commenting on the substitutes who we expect to turn the game!!:mad::mad:

[GaryMc]

Bad night at the office. Fookin feel sick. Reminded me of Villa match back in 2001, beat 3-1 at home.

I just hope Rafa does not start fcking moaning about decisions. Did not deserve a result. The OG was turning point and Villa played it well from then on in. You know Friedal was going to be hard to beat. Once it went 3-1, the heads dropped, no inspiration.

Worst thing about that game and indeed the Spurs game is that its by and large Rafa's first choice. One thing is for sure Masherano and Lucas have not got the guile between in the middle to make the difference. The sooner Aqualini gets fit the better.

Its only the start of the season, however if things got badly at Bolton, it will be a long long international break.

[dubit10]

How many did the mancs lose last season? 5 was it? they will lose the same amount if not more, Chelsea will aswell, Spurs and City ok are doing well at the moment but it wont last all teams hit a bad patch we are having ours early, when spurs and city hit theres spurs havent got the players to pull them out of it and city have a team of superstars how will whing and moan when they are in theres. Mancs and chelsea and arsenal will all have bad patches, Ok its a terrible terrible result but its not the end of the world 32 games unbeaten at home it had to end at some stage so we need to start again so be it we can do it because WE ARE LIVERPOOL

Your picking me up wrong friend. I think we still have a chance, of course we do...it's just that as a club we have to get out of the (we can afford to lose x amount of games mentality)....we can't afford to lose any.