Staunton Has To Go.....

[Fowler's God]

after this display 2nite i know we just scored there but its a utter joke in what is going on...

[RedWally]

The sad thing is what they'll probably replace him with will be of similar quality/experience.

[Beano]

just watched lfc tv tonight showing staunton in a reds shirt and i forgot i used to like him as a player

At least tonight he took O' Brien off - had a howler of a game - but surely Miller should be getting the nod in the middle of the pitch ahead of O' Brien

[south]

the man doesn't have a clue what he's doing.. "four year plan" me bolllox ..time to go stan.. bring the FAI with you

[Dub13]

I feel sorry for O' Brien he was played out of postion.

Stan just has to go.Imagen this time in 18 months time still having this crap.

[carramagic]

Was at the game. What a joke. If he doesn't go now we can say goodbye to the next world cup as well. Delaney should go too. Heard lads were ejected tonight for having a "Delaney out" banner. If thats true its a disgrace. There definitely was some trouble on the Cusak stand with loads of police and stewards headin over that direction

[Kopite]

very original posts here lads, FAI are muppets, agreed, Stephen Staunton deserves more respect from the country though

[scousedub]

very original posts here lads, FAI are muppets, agreed, Stephen Staunton deserves more respect from the country though

No he does not!
Obviously not his fault he was given the job, we can blame his buddy Delaney for that. But, he has done himself no favours with some of his tactical decisions and team selections. If he had any kop on he would walk away and do us all a favour. He might get more respect from people in the long term if he did.

[scousedub]

Was at the game. What a joke. If he doesn't go now we can say goodbye to the next world cup as well. Delaney should go too. Heard lads were ejected tonight for having a "Delaney out" banner. If thats true its a disgrace. There definitely was some trouble on the Cusak stand with loads of police and stewards headin over that direction

Yep, a disgrace that those lads with the "Delaney out" banner were ejected, the same happened at the San Marino away game.So much for free speech!

[carramagic]

Staunton was a super player and I'll always respect him for that. It's not his fault that he was given the job but it was a ridiculous decision. He is out of his dept and we need a new manager for the next campaign

[poorscousertommy]

very original posts here lads, FAI are muppets, agreed, Stephen Staunton deserves more respect from the country though


Kopite, kop on !

[Yoko]

I felt sorry for Stan. A man floundering out of his depth. Please god the FAI will be sensible for the first time in living memory and give him severence.

I'm almost convinced we don't want to qualify for Championships in order to save money

[9Torres]

I was at the game myself and it was an awful display. Scraping a draw at home to Cyprus - but one thing I'll say is that it was a complete disgrace how the Irish fans booed at the Irish players. Every one of them ran for the whole time they were on the pitch, they're out there playing for their country and I can guarantee that they're as gutted as we all are at how things are going. Why would you even consider going to a game if you're gonna do nothing but abuse our own players.

I saw (so called) fans singing all of the Irish songs and turn around and boo their own players less than 20 secs later. I even saw a bloke teachin his kid to boo at our players - the kid was no more than 8 years old. Thats no education in footie for a young lad going to see his idols. We all know the FAI needs a complete revamp, and Delaney should definitely go... but who is gonna replace Stan? Who is out there to replace him? The FAI dont have the cash or the personnel to get a half decent name in.

Look on the bright side, there is some brilliant talent coming through in the team and for the 1st time in a very long time, most players are born in Ireland - no granny rule. Whatever happens, these players are gaining valuable international experience. I know it will come right, but all I wanna say is get behind the players. Get rid of the negative vibes. Its not the Irish way. I always looked down at and dispised other countries for the sideline abuse, and I'll tell you all that tonight was a real eye opener. We're no different from the rest.

P.S. Course I'm not saying its all fans, I just couldnt believe how many took part in it all.

[poorscousertommy]

I was at the game myself and it was an awful display. Scraping a draw at home to Cyprus - but one thing I'll say is that it was a complete disgrace how the Irish fans booed at the Irish players. Every one of them ran for the whole time they were on the pitch, they're out there playing for their country and I can guarantee that they're as gutted as we all are at how things are going. Why would you even consider going to a game if you're gonna do nothing but abuse our own players.

I saw (so called) fans singing all of the Irish songs and turn around and boo their own players less than 20 secs later. I even saw a bloke teachin his kid to boo at our players - the kid was no more than 8 years old. Thats no education in footie for a young lad going to see his idols. We all know the FAI needs a complete revamp, and Delaney should definitely go... but who is gonna replace Stan? Who is out there to replace him? The FAI dont have the cash or the personnel to get a half decent name in.

Look on the bright side, there is some brilliant talent coming through in the team and for the 1st time in a very long time, most players are born in Ireland - no granny rule. Whatever happens, these players are gaining valuable international experience. I know it will come right, but all I wanna say is get behind the players. Get rid of the negative vibes. Its not the Irish way. I always looked down at and dispised other countries for the sideline abuse, and I'll tell you all that tonight was a real eye opener. We're no different from the rest.

P.S. Course I'm not saying its all fans, I just couldnt believe how many took part in it all.

Only saw it on the telly myself, it wasn't the players they were booing, it was that moron staunton and total tosspot delaney

[9Torres]

trust me... players were being bood and jeered at every bit as much as Staunton and Delaney were. i was gutted it was happenin. booed off at half time. robbie keane, hunt (at times), reid (at times) were all jeered at.

i almost left at half time cos I was so annoyed by it, makes me wonder if some of the hypocrits have any sense or brains at all.

[Fowler's God]

I was at the game myself and it was an awful display. Scraping a draw at home to Cyprus - but one thing I'll say is that it was a complete disgrace how the Irish fans booed at the Irish players. Every one of them ran for the whole time they were on the pitch, they're out there playing for their country and I can guarantee that they're as gutted as we all are at how things are going. Why would you even consider going to a game if you're gonna do nothing but abuse our own players.

I saw (so called) fans singing all of the Irish songs and turn around and boo their own players less than 20 secs later. I even saw a bloke teachin his kid to boo at our players - the kid was no more than 8 years old. Thats no education in footie for a young lad going to see his idols. We all know the FAI needs a complete revamp, and Delaney should definitely go... but who is gonna replace Stan? Who is out there to replace him? The FAI dont have the cash or the personnel to get a half decent name in.

Look on the bright side, there is some brilliant talent coming through in the team and for the 1st time in a very long time, most players are born in Ireland - no granny rule. Whatever happens, these players are gaining valuable international experience. I know it will come right, but all I wanna say is get behind the players. Get rid of the negative vibes. Its not the Irish way. I always looked down at and dispised other countries for the sideline abuse, and I'll tell you all that tonight was a real eye opener. We're no different from the rest.

P.S. Course I'm not saying its all fans, I just couldnt believe how many took part in it all.

If you paid the money that are been touted for the game and other games in the qualifiers and seen all the crap that we seen on telly you have a right as punter to boo. Look at the results been honest and the games in the qualifiers we played crap football been honest you get more entertainment watch paint dry. Booing was deserved in my opinion utter s***e thats what we have dragged down too.

Poor tactics, selections in the first XI and squad brutal, players not properly conditioned for the games. We should have been beaten tonight. Cyprus could and should have had 4 goals with the chances they missed. Finnan's goal at the end masked over a embrassing game and qualifying campaign which has made us the laughing stock.

The Genesis Report from the 2002 World Cup has done nothing to improve the FAI. An amateur organisation bunch of muppets, hate to say but at times the GAA are more a professional organisation than the FAI. The players there are good enough to if properly managed and trained by experienced and world class footballing people. We need someone like Guus Hiddink or of that ilk as manager. Apart from Roy Keane which won't happen is there an Irishman capable of managing the team with world class experience. Martin O' Neill is the only one i can think of and if anyone says David O'Leary i would just laugh at the notion.

At this stage we're in a worse position than ever. The way its going Ireland will not be qualifying for any major event for the foreseeable future if this joke of losers are in charge. Time for sweeping change all over the FAI. We need someone of a technical director to start at the grass roots and help build something along with maintaining the current side. The way the FAI look at it the World Cup is more financial viable than the Euro's. We want to see our country in both events not just once every 4 years.

The table doesn't lie, Ireland could conceivably finish 2nd bottom of the group come the end of this qualifying stage which would be the worst campaign in Irish football history:
European Football Championship Group D
Team P W D L F/A Pts
1 Germany 10 7 2 1 31 / 7 23
2 Czech Republic 10 7 2 1 22 / 4 23
3 Rep of Ire 11 4 4 3 15 / 12 16
4 Cyprus 10 4 2 4 17 / 18 14
5 Slovakia 10 4 1 5 27 / 20 13
6 Wales 10 4 1 5 16 / 17 13
7 San Marino 11 0 0 11 2 / 52 0

[Gerry]

Some disgusting behaviour at the game last night, how people can boo players for making a mistake is beyond me, and yes it was happening! eg andy reid hit a slightly misplaced pass and hundreds of muppets booed him as happened with hunt and others!

i know people felt the need to boo at the end for staunton which i knew was going to happen but dont condone but the treatment the players got for small mistakes was disgusting and something i have never seen before !

[thirty]

stan isn't up to it but either are the players, we only have about 4 players from a fully fit squad who could play in a very good international team, stan might go but we will still have the same below average players, managing this team at the moment is a poisioned chalice for whoever takes over

[Paul]

I was at the game myself and it was an awful display. Scraping a draw at home to Cyprus - but one thing I'll say is that it was a complete disgrace how the Irish fans booed at the Irish players. Every one of them ran for the whole time they were on the pitch, they're out there playing for their country and I can guarantee that they're as gutted as we all are at how things are going. Why would you even consider going to a game if you're gonna do nothing but abuse our own players.

I saw (so called) fans singing all of the Irish songs and turn around and boo their own players less than 20 secs later. I even saw a bloke teachin his kid to boo at our players - the kid was no more than 8 years old. Thats no education in footie for a young lad going to see his idols. We all know the FAI needs a complete revamp, and Delaney should definitely go... but who is gonna replace Stan? Who is out there to replace him? The FAI dont have the cash or the personnel to get a half decent name in.

Look on the bright side, there is some brilliant talent coming through in the team and for the 1st time in a very long time, most players are born in Ireland - no granny rule. Whatever happens, these players are gaining valuable international experience. I know it will come right, but all I wanna say is get behind the players. Get rid of the negative vibes. Its not the Irish way. I always looked down at and dispised other countries for the sideline abuse, and I'll tell you all that tonight was a real eye opener. We're no different from the rest.

P.S. Course I'm not saying its all fans, I just couldnt believe how many took part in it all.

:confused: who?

[Gerry]

I dont buy into this whole players not good enough, yes we dont have worl beaters but good organisation and fighting for each other on the pitch will get you a long way look at scotland,
and were greece a team full of great players when they won it ??? i know we will never be the best around but we are capable of so much more and so is our support !

[JOE]

I went to the game last night night myself, and a cold one it was too. Many thousands turned up0 straight from work like myself, and what I saw last night was not right. We couldn't even pass the ball and the amount of missed chances, I actually had to pinch myself and say this is cyprus and we're in Croke Park.

But I really thaught this would have opened peoples eyes who were previously vindicating him.

I can't understand why we acn still defend him...He needs to go. Our seeding will drop once again, and the players are becoming disheartened...

[liverbird!!]

What i watched last night at croke park, was nothing but shambolic!

This man altho, a great player for Ireland & Liverpool, clearly has been made to look like a complete twat! by the FAI by giving him a job he clearly is unable to do. You only had to see that the team as a whole! hadn't a clue what to do, and that the management played players out of position and made them look crap!. O'brien had a great game on saturday and Keogh had a pretty ok game and tried his heart out on saturday. Last night lost!!!

The FAI are taking us the Fans as complete gobshites and need to go.
We pay good money to watch these games and what we have been treated too is a joke. Don't know What else to say!:mad:

[scousedub]

but one thing I'll say is that it was a complete disgrace how the Irish fans booed at the Irish players. Why would you even consider going to a game if you're gonna do nothing but abuse our own players.

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I think in general most of the boos were directed at the Fai,Stan and Delaney. Unfortunately, it looks like it is being directed at the players as that is the only way fans can vent their frustrations.If the players think they are being booed,what is this doing for their confidence,especially the younger players. Also,Stans continual policy of playing players out of position must affect younger players eg: Keogh and O'Brien.
I have missed one home game since the early eighties and get to at least two away qualifiers in every campaign and this is the worst state the team has been in since i started watching them.
A simple look at Stans results since he took over in 2006 will show, that in his 16 games he has presided over four of the worst results and performances in our history, Ireland 0-4 Holland,Cyprus 5-2 Ireland,San Marino 1-2 Ireland and Ireland 1-1 Cyprus.
He is probably a nice man,was a great player and obviously not his fault he got the job, but he is making us a laughing stock.
Kop on Stan and get out now!

[9Torres]

If you paid the money that are been touted for the game and other games in the qualifiers and seen all the crap that we seen on telly you have a right as punter to boo. Look at the results been honest and the games in the qualifiers we played crap football been honest you get more entertainment watch paint dry. Booing was deserved in my opinion utter s***e thats what we have dragged down too.

Poor tactics, selections in the first XI and squad brutal, players not properly conditioned for the games. We should have been beaten tonight. Cyprus could and should have had 4 goals with the chances they missed. Finnan's goal at the end masked over a embrassing game and qualifying campaign which has made us the laughing stock.

The Genesis Report from the 2002 World Cup has done nothing to improve the FAI. An amateur organisation bunch of muppets, hate to say but at times the GAA are more a professional organisation than the FAI. The players there are good enough to if properly managed and trained by experienced and world class footballing people. We need someone like Guus Hiddink or of that ilk as manager. Apart from Roy Keane which won't happen is there an Irishman capable of managing the team with world class experience. Martin O' Neill is the only one i can think of and if anyone says David O'Leary i would just laugh at the notion.

At this stage we're in a worse position than ever. The way its going Ireland will not be qualifying for any major event for the foreseeable future if this joke of losers are in charge. Time for sweeping change all over the FAI. We need someone of a technical director to start at the grass roots and help build something along with maintaining the current side. The way the FAI look at it the World Cup is more financial viable than the Euro's. We want to see our country in both events not just once every 4 years.

The table doesn't lie, Ireland could conceivably finish 2nd bottom of the group come the end of this qualifying stage which would be the worst campaign in Irish football history:
European Football Championship Group D
Team P W D L F/A Pts
1 Germany 10 7 2 1 31 / 7 23
2 Czech Republic 10 7 2 1 22 / 4 23
3 Rep of Ire 11 4 4 3 15 / 12 16
4 Cyprus 10 4 2 4 17 / 18 14
5 Slovakia 10 4 1 5 27 / 20 13
6 Wales 10 4 1 5 16 / 17 13
7 San Marino 11 0 0 11 2 / 52 0

All I'm saying is not to boo the players. Don't you think they're as annoyed and frustrated at it all as we are? They've been brought up watching the World Cups and Euro Cups too and they gave their all during the games, I know it never happened for them and that is down to management and preparation for games. Its a seriously young and inexperienced squad and the only way they're gonna gain experience is by playing competetive games. It's gonna do nothin for confidence if the fans give them hell for misplacing a pass.

You're not the only one out of pocket for going to the games, and none of us are happy, but what good are boos and jeers gonna do? only deject the players more.

Yes, the FAI need a complete clear out. They are the ones letting the fans down with poor decision making and short term goals.

Its just somethin I've never seen from the Irish fans before - I thought we were above all that - obviously not.

[Pimboli]

Ive gone to every home game for the last 12 years and that was the worst performance I have witnessed by the lads and in recent times there have been some real stinkers.

I wasnt one of the ones booing as I dont believe in booing your own team but I can fully understand why those who did did.

I do also feel that the boos were aimed at Delaney and his performing chimp Staunton.

He has to go there is no alternative, any manager who goes on record and says that once the players cross the white line what they do on the pitch has nothing to do with him has to be sacked. We all know Keane is in a shocking run of form for Ireland at the moment but the manager still shouldnt be coming out saying 'he cant hit a bard door at the moment for Ireland', strikers live off their confidence and that will have done Keane no good at all.

His complete apathy and cluelessness has spread to the whole team and they look a shambles, what happened to the revenge we were promised. In my opinion Cyprus were robbed of a deserved win.

[sean]

Result was bad last night, and the performance too no doubt. But to see the booing going on was absolutely disgraceful! When Cyprus hit the post thats when it really started - exactly what the lads out on the pitch needed to hear when they were already down! That story about a father teaching his 8 year old kid to boo is unreal! I can't wait til we move back to the new LR already, cos since we moved to Croke Park alot more muppets seem to have gotten their hands on tickets.

[callyno3]

Awful result and match last night!!! I've said it before and Ill say it again no disrespect to Stan great player and nice lad. but he is just not good enough!!! He and Delany have to go !!

[jaws2]

I think people boo as a way to put pressure on Delaney and the rest of the FAI to sort out the mess they've created. We need a top manager with international experience, someone that the players will respect and look up to. We have a team that's more than capable of qualifying for major tournaments, all we need is some organisation and spirit, two things which were sadly lacking last night.

[megager]

We were beaten 6-3 by cyprus on aggregate. Staunton is responsible. Yes it isnt his fault he was given the job, and I dont think he should have to resign. The FAI need to show balls and sack him.

Im tired saying this, but as a player I respected Stan and felt he was ever dependable. But all that has been tarnished by his ineptitude both in picking a team and dealing with themedia. He comes across as a clueless buffoon both when he speaks and in how his teams play. This is a grossly unfair misrepresentation of the man, but it is one that I think most people agree on. The problems lies with the FAI. They have insisted he learn his trade in the full glare of the public, where every mistake, silly comment is seen by us all. And we dont forget them. That is not Stan's fault really.

Brian Kerr did a good job and I think we would be closer qualification were he still at the helm (we would have beaten cyprus twice and drawn in Prague), but I still dont think we would have qualified. The team is not fantastic, sure, but it is also not so bad as to be humiliated twice by cyprus. With some organisation we should be doing as well as the scots.

So sack him and who else is there?

O'Leary wont take it, Aldo will but would he be any better. The FAI wont pay for a big coach (there is no way they can afford it having not qualified for a major tournament for 6 years).

I asked before, should a league of Ireland manager or Steven Kenny be considered. I rate Kenny highly. They would be cheap, but would they get the respect of the senior players???

I vouch for Roddy Collins or Pat Dolan.....Only kidding

[Gerry]

Listen stop kidding yourselves if you think some of the muppets last night were not booing the players too! it was plain too see and hear! and after speaking to the father of one of the players this morning some of the players were very aware of mistakes by players been booed by these muppets ! fair play to you all for the great support but then again i doubt any of them will be on here !

[KOPITE55]

I'm not one for booing a team I support, but it has to be said that certain players out there aren't merely making mistakes (which would be forgivable).

Robbie Keane is the prime example of someone who's attitude is all wrong.I'm not talking about mistakes, I 'm talking about that lazy w*nker spending his time drifting around midfield, taking corners etc instead of leading the line up front which is what he's supposed to do.

The guy tracked well back into his own half yesterday, then the ball was played forward thru midfield, and Keane made no effort what so ever to get back into position.

Staunton should go yes, and Delaney too, but having this moron as our captain is all wrong too.Ireland played badly yesterday (and in general recently), but I don't doubt the commitment of most of the players, just their ability.Keane however should be dropped from the team altogether.He seems able to do what he's old at Spurs, and stick to being a striker, but for Ireland he just drifts aimlessly all over the pitch and then has the nerve to shout at the other players when he mistimes his one or two runs that he actually bothered to make

[Kopite]

No he does not!
Obviously not his fault he was given the job, we can blame his buddy Delaney for that. But, he has done himself no favours with some of his tactical decisions and team selections. If he had any kop on he would walk away and do us all a favour. He might get more respect from people in the long term if he did.

But who are you to question his tactics? Have you got a Uefa Coaching badge or do you just swan in and out of games with a few pints in you slobbering about "tactics"? be a football fan and have your opinion but don't pretend to know more than a pro footballer who played over a 100 international games.

I just cant stand this British press mentality of hounding people out. If Stan is inept at his job what the fcuk is Steve maclaren ?? who has good players(not great players, we have average players, not good) at his disposal. The simple matter is that we as an Irish public would rather a certain thug from Cork (not slagging cork people) or some Johnny Foreigner who talks a good game to be in charge of the national team, when in reality it would not make any difference.

I hope he sickens you all and we have a great WC campaign.

[Fowler's God]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A28087716 - heres an interesting article

[SUPERFAN]

I hope he sickens you all and we have a great WC campaign.


i'll be only too happy if he sickens the entire Country and gets us to the next World Cup but do you honestly think that's going to happen?
Delaney keeps spouting on about making progress and that finishing 3rd in this Group will be progress.it's quite possible and almost inevitable that Ireland wont finish 3rd now and may not even finish 4th.can't wait to hear the crap Delaney comes out with if/when that happens.that's if he even bothers to talk to the Media about it,he'll probably let Stan take all the flak or worse still Bobby Robson.
the day the FAI left that Man on the Radio for over an Hour to defend Staunton/Delaney was xxxxxx appalling in my opinion....
the truth is that this Squad/Team is going backwards,not progressing and the only logical conclusion if Stan is still in charge for World Cup Qualification is that Ireland will finish even further down the Table....

[marko]

I agree with most of the comments here,last night was the worst home performance i've ever been at and while the players must take some of the blame i do think that they did try to achieve some kind of level last night.
The problem as i see it is down to to the manager,the squad have had 10 days together but looked as they had only met last night,poor passing and a lack of confidence combined with no obvious game plan points to a poorly prepared team.Why throw in a couple of players out of position when miller and mcgeady were available,maybe he felt o brien would work as a defensive midfielder allowing andy reid to play a more free role but this was cyprus we were playing?
Stan is a nice guy and was a great player for ireland and Liverpool but i feel hes not up to this job at this moment in time and i fear for the next campaign if he is allowed to continue,as for the booing last night i dont like it and even though the performance was bad and understand fans frustrations it was not nice to experience.

[Fowler's God]

Ireland have now still only ever qualified for the Euros once in our history. I think if Brian Kerr was still in charge he would got more out of the team and was just unlucky in the qualifiers for the World Cup. He got screwed by the FA for just losing one game on the way to not qualifiying for the World Cup. He got vilified by the FA when they said we will get a World Class manager and that has let down the whole nation as we were in a better position under Kerr than Staunton. He got us within one game of qualifiying for the Euro's in 2004 and after the start we had he wasn't given enough credit.

[fitzpatrickgary]

its simple stan is not good enough for the job
im not attacking stan he was a great player for ireland liverpool and even villa but he is not a manager .i will though attack the FAI that shower of muppets decided to give stan the job and the main reason he got it was his low wage demands get the checkbook out and bring in a proven coach .

look a georgia last night their manager was the Ex Bayer Leverkuesen manager that got them to the Champions League final and won the German league.

[Fowler's God]

its simple stan is not good enough for the job
im not attacking stan he was a great player for ireland liverpool and even villa but he is not a manager .i will though attack the FAI that shower of muppets decided to give stan the job and the main reason he got it was his low wage demands get the checkbook out and bring in a proven coach .

look a georgia last night their manager was the Ex Bayer Leverkuesen manager that got them to the Champions League final and won the German league.

Toppmoller is the manager of them feck me. I heard we had Guus Hiddink in the frame until he decided to go to Russia :rolleyes:

[boca]

There's a couple of rumours starting to do the rounds on other forums that he has gone and an announcement will be made this evening.

[Paul]

I guess we all agree one of Stan's biggest mistakes on day 1 was making Keane the captain. He's not a leader or a good example on the pitch. Having links to some of the players from his own playing days hasn't done him any favours.

[Paul]

There's a couple of rumours starting to do the rounds on other forums that he has gone and an announcement will be made this evening.

i hope they're not all posted by you :D

[Fowler's God]

There's a couple of rumours starting to do the rounds on other forums that he has gone and an announcement will be made this evening.

Any links of those forums to hand?

[boca]

http://http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055167666

[Kopite]

i'll be only too happy if he sickens the entire Country and gets us to the next World Cup but do you honestly think that's going to happen?
Delaney keeps spouting on about making progress and that finishing 3rd in this Group will be progress.it's quite possible and almost inevitable that Ireland wont finish 3rd now and may not even finish 4th.can't wait to hear the crap Delaney comes out with if/when that happens.that's if he even bothers to talk to the Media about it,he'll probably let Stan take all the flak or worse still Bobby Robson.
the day the FAI left that Man on the Radio for over an Hour to defend Staunton/Delaney was xxxxxx appalling in my opinion....
the truth is that this Squad/Team is going backwards,not progressing and the only logical conclusion if Stan is still in charge for World Cup Qualification is that Ireland will finish even further down the Table....

Some goods points made. I have 1 simple question, If Guus Hiddink (as in a world class manager) was in charge of this squad would he have been able to compete with Germany and the Czechs in this group. My opinion is no. I dont think many of the results would have been reversed. The Slovakia game where they got a late equaliser could be offered as a time where the tactics to hold on for a win, could be questioned. The rest, including the Cyprus mauling was a case of the players just being woeful.

[Fowler's God]

http://http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055167666

unknown host mate lol

[Kopite]

Ya see he is not meant to go! At least in internet land :D :D

[boca]

unknown host mate lol

it's on boards.ie

[Fowler's God]

no bother

[south]

Borrowed from another site.

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[Dub13]

According to some reports The FAI are coming up with a severance package for Staunton.

[trucker]

I went to the game last night night myself, and a cold one it was too. Many thousands turned up0 straight from work like myself, and what I saw last night was not right. We couldn't even pass the ball and the amount of missed chances, I actually had to pinch myself and say this is cyprus and we're in Croke Park.

But I really thaught this would have opened peoples eyes who were previously vindicating him.

I can't understand why we acn still defend him...He needs to go. Our seeding will drop once again, and the players are becoming disheartened...

Staunton is a clown how he got the job when his only basis for management was putting out the training cones with walsall( Paul Mersons words not mine). The man has no people skills as anyone who has been unfortunte enough to meet him(which i have) will know. The day he was given the job well respected journalists in Ireland and England said he was one of the most arrogant ignorant and dismissive men to fans and journalists alike they had ever met. Typical FAI though savve money whatever way they can.

[SUPERFAN]

Some goods points made. I have 1 simple question, If Guus Hiddink (as in a world class manager) was in charge of this squad would he have been able to compete with Germany and the Czechs in this group. My opinion is no. I dont think many of the results would have been reversed. The Slovakia game where they got a late equaliser could be offered as a time where the tactics to hold on for a win, could be questioned. The rest, including the Cyprus mauling was a case of the players just being woeful.


it's debatable as to whether Hiddink would've got better results against Germany and the Czechs had he been in charge of this Ireland Squad but given his track record i'm inclined to think that he would have.
one thing's for certain,they wouldn't have been a last Kick of the Game away from losing 6 Points to Cyprus.....
if Staunton was in charge of the Russian Team would they have come back from 1-0 down at Half Time to beat England 2-1?
would they have even been in a position to still qualify at this stage?
in my opinion the answer to both those Questions is a definite NO!

[Kopite]

Staunton is a clown how he got the job when his only basis for management was putting out the training cones with walsall( Paul Mersons words not mine). The man has no people skills as anyone who has been unfortunte enough to meet him(which i have) will know. The day he was given the job well respected journalists in Ireland and England said he was one of the most arrogant ignorant and dismissive men to fans and journalists alike they had ever met. Typical FAI though savve money whatever way they can.

Absolute rubbish....

[Kopite]

it's debatable as to whether Hiddink would've got better results against Germany and the Czechs had he been in charge of this Ireland Squad but given his track record i'm inclined to think that he would have.
one thing's for certain,they wouldn't have been a last Kick of the Game away from losing 6 Points to Cyprus.....
if Staunton was in charge of the Russian Team would they have come back from 1-0 down at Half Time to beat England 2-1?
would they have even been in a position to still qualify at this stage?
in my opinion the answer to both those Questions is a definite NO!

so if Guus Hiddink was manager of San Marino they would be far better team? Good managers need good players. Simple. He wouldnt have that with Ireland.

[Fowler's God]

so if Guus Hiddink was manager of San Marino they would be far better team? Good managers need good players. Simple. He wouldnt have that with Ireland.

He got to the World Cup Semi-Finals with South Korea albeit with luck but got the Aussies thru to the second round of the world cup last year

[Dub13]

Of course you need good players to have a good team.What annoys me about our current setup is we don't know how good the players could be as Stan has made some crazy and quite frankly naive selections.

What I am an Irish fan want is the man in the job to pick the right players in the right positions,give them a plan and tell them how you want to play.And if they don't preform drop them.

Then if the lads are not up to it at least we will know,but the situation we are in now if we just don't know how far we could have went with a more experienced manager.

[JOE]

Just to add to the comments previosly made on the whole booing saga last night...I think unfortunately it was the only way to hammer the proposition of actually getting rid of Stan...

The other alternative would have been to act with our feet, something which we in part saw with last nights attendance,(we all know delaney thinks of the money first and foremost) but i doubt that would have taken effect as we are too loyal as fans...

My question is if we are not to exercise our opinion either through the media or as extreme as it was boo the FAI how will they get the idea...

[scousedub]

But who are you to question his tactics? Have you got a Uefa Coaching badge or do you just swan in and out of games with a few pints in you slobbering about "tactics"? be a football fan and have your opinion but don't pretend to know more than a pro footballer who played over a 100 international games.

I hope he sickens you all and we have a great WC campaign.

You certainly talk a load of bulls**t
I am perfectly entitled to question his tactics, thats what i pay my money for.I never claimed to know more than a pro footballer but being an ex pro does not make you a good manager. My eleven year old daughter, who goes to the games with me, even questioned why Keogh was playing again after Saturday.
He may become a good managaer in time(although i doubt it) but why should he practise with our national team.
The sooner he goes the better for everyone.
By the way i think your the one whos been on the sherbets!

[Kopite]

Your entitled to your opinion but dont pretend that it means anything or you are remotley right. What are you not a pro footie coach then? Your daughters U-11 team doesnt count....:)

[Kopite]

He got to the World Cup Semi-Finals with South Korea albeit with luck but got the Aussies thru to the second round of the world cup last year

in fairness thats a very good point, the man is a great great coach. South Korea were a talanted bunch on a crest of a wave but the players the AUssies and ourselves are prob of simlar quality, maybe even they are better....point taken, but Im still not having all this Staunton bashing...:)

[carramagic]

Nobody should bash Staunton or call him any names, especially not Ireland or Liverpool fans as the man is a legend. You don't have to be a football coach or have played 100 internationals though to have seen some of his ridiculous decisions and to see that he didn't get the best out of the group of players he had. Some of his team selections and substitutions were very naive. It's not his fault he got the job and he probably would have been mad to turn it down but it is clear that he isn't up to the job on so many levels and the sooner we get in an experienced coach the better. Just hope someone wants the job. The likes of Reheghal and Bennacker (please feel free to correct spellings!) are guys who have performed excellently and haven't cost the earth. Coppell has apparently expressed an interest and would be an able candidate. If I hear one more word of Bryan Robson being considered for the post there'll be trouble!

[Aido82]

dont know who to bring in, but get rid of stan.

[Fowler's God]

We need someone who has the ability to man-manage players and organise and have a bit of shape and playing style to the team. For one i know he is not loved by us Reds but Mourinho is a good choice. For all the money that was spent at Chelsea the one thing you have to say his team had a good organisation and shape but also knew never to know when they're beating and this is what we need.

[sean]

We need someone who has the ability to man-manage players and organise and have a bit of shape and playing style to the team. For one i know he is not loved by us Reds but Mourinho is a good choice. For all the money that was spent at Chelsea the one thing you have to say his team had a good organisation and shape but also knew never to know when they're beating and this is what we need.

Not a hope it will be him though, by the time they pay Stan off and count the cost of missing out of another championships, the money left over for wages wouldn't be anywhere near what a top class manager would expect.

[scousedub]

The best choice i have seen mentioned over the weekend is Gerard Houllier.Lots of advantages over any other candidates eg: previous international experience with France and he would know a lot of our players from his time in England. Also, as far as i know he is available

[Alex Raisbeck]

The best choice i have seen mentioned over the weekend is Gerard Houllier.Lots of advantages over any other candidates eg: previous international experience with France and he would know a lot of our players from his time in England. Also, as far as i know he is available

You know thats actually not too bad of a choice.
Prefer him to fairy o leary anyway.

[homer1]

It really can't be THAT difficult - yeah we are looking for someone with lots of experience but in reality, you need someone who a) is tactically sound and b) is a good motivator ........ Stan is neither

No he shouldn't have got the job in the first place so others have to accept the blame / criticism accordingly, however he has done nothing to endeer himself to the media (which is essential) or the fans as he was never honest in his analysis and never appeared as though he was prepared to accept any responsibility for poor performances, results.

Despite Keane's support on the Late Late, I don't think there will be too many players who will be sorry to see him go either to be honest - nothing to back it up, just a hunch

[sean]

Despite Keane's support on the Late Late, I don't think there will be too many players who will be sorry to see him go either to be honest - nothing to back it up, just a hunch

SSN quoted Kevin Doyle as saying he wouldn't be surprised if Stan go the sack. Not exactly the sound of a player fighting to see him keep his job.

[mypost]

Apparantly, following the criticism after the "Serraville" performance, certain players indicated they would retire if Steve got the sack.

So a month later, and (discounting Stephen Ireland) how many have??

0 :rolleyes:

I was at 3 of the games in the qualifying campaign, home to San Marino and Cyprus, and away to Slovakia. Whilst winning in Bratislava, some fans started singing "Our Stan, he is the man" :confused: With 5 minutes to go Kevin Kilbane took the ball into the corner, instead of looking to increase our lead, and wrap the game up. :rolleyes: Slovakia went on to equalise, and the campaign fell apart after that.

The booing against Cyprus was deserved. It cost €70 to watch that excuse of a performance. This is a part-time squad, holiday resort that 9 PL players can't beat at home, remember.

The players, boss, and Delaney argue that we have unrealistic expectations. Actually we don't. The basics that we ask, is that the team is competitive. Being kicked out of the qualifiers with 3 games to go, is not competitive. There are good players available, but they need to be blended into a team by an ambitious boss who knows the basics of coaching, not a dour unqualified one that states that "we have no divine right to qualify for tournaments", :o, similiar to how Scotland, Finland, Poland, and Norway have no right to, but very well could.

The next qualifying draw is in 2 weeks. We will face a minimum of 8 games, probably 10, and assuming we don't finish top of the group, needing another 12 games to make a play-off. You cannot afford to lose 3 qualifiers and expect to qualify for tournaments. The next boss, better ensure that he doesn't, or the booing will start again.