micheal turner

[devondudley]

prob gonna go ahead now jamie picked up a knock today, hope we dont pay too much for him. looks like another english lad for the champs league squad as well,

[graham]

I'm not sure he's necessary with Carragher, Skrtel and Agger already there, the latter are very young for such good centre halves. I'd much prefare an experienced player like Distin for a few million, he might be happy to be 4th choice. Although maybe Turner would fill the void at right back and centre half. Maybe that's Rafa's thinking on this one. The story is that he offered Phil "I'm a Celebrity" Brown 6 million but Brown wants 12 million

[KK1977]

He can provide something that is currently lacking - a defender that can score goals.

[graham]

He can provide something that is currently lacking - a defender that can score goals.

Agger

[D-Red]

Where are Hull getting this 12 million figure from?

All those sun-bed sessions must be getting to Phil Browns nonce

[KK1977]

Agger

Yep, Aurelio too. I was thinking more about providing a presence from corners and set pieces. Turner is a real threat from these whereas Agger is more likely to score from 30 yards.

[ronnie10]

Johnson will chip in with a few goal I think

[denashpot]

Do we need turner at all? I think we should be buying another forward ahead of a defender.

[stevieg05]

Well all 3 of our central defs are carryin slight injuries at the mo so ya we need another one. We need 4. United hav Ferdinand, Vidic, Brown, O'Shea, Evans.....Chelsea hav Terry, Alex, Carvalho, Ivanovic, Mancienne.
Thats the one thing thats lackin from Carragher.....goals. All the centre halfs from the other big teams weigh in with the odd one. How many did Carra and Skertel get last season? In fairness Skertel has a few international goals so he wil hopefuly get 1 r 2 this season for us. Turner wud be a good signing if we can get him for 6-7 million

[kaiser_del]

in fairness Agger does chip in whip a few goals if he stays fit.Carra is not a goal machine but keeps out enough at the other end.Hopefully Skirts can get a few next season.

[denashpot]

Well all 3 of our central defs are carryin slight injuries at the mo so ya we need another one. We need 4. United hav Ferdinand, Vidic, Brown, O'Shea, Evans.....Chelsea hav Terry, Alex, Carvalho, Ivanovic, Mancienne.
Thats the one thing thats lackin from Carragher.....goals. All the centre halfs from the other big teams weigh in with the odd one. How many did Carra and Skertel get last season? In fairness Skertel has a few international goals so he wil hopefuly get 1 r 2 this season for us. Turner wud be a good signing if we can get him for 6-7 million

How about giving Martin Kelly a go?

[stevieg05]

I think most liverpool fans rate kelly higher than he actually he is. He was on loan at hudderfield last season and as far as i know he only made it into the team playin full back. Dats at at League1 club!

[CHRIS1892]

Turner's a good solid young defender, we need another central defender. Age-wise, Distin's 32, Turner 25, plus he'd be another English player for CL squad. Who am I to tell Rafa what to do, but I'd invest in the younger of the two, rather than just getting one maybe two seasons out of Disitin, & having to replace him. However, Mr. Perma-tan is taking the p**s looking for 12m for him.

[Alex Raisbeck]

Turner's a good solid young defender, we need another central defender. Age-wise, Distin's 32, Turner 25, .

True, but balance that out against Distin 2-4m and Turner, apparently 4-6m.
Id rather take Distin cheaper and decent with experience, and hopefully save the money for an attacking player.Though the nearer the season draws closer the less confident I am of a big name attacking signing.

[RedMurph08]

True, but balance that out against Distin 2-4m and Turner, apparently 4-6m.
Id rather take Distin cheaper and decent with experience, and hopefully save the money for an attacking player.Though the nearer the season draws closer the less confident I am of a big name attacking signing.

There is no way i would pay £3 mill for Distin a player that you are gonna get 2 seasons out of max, Add to that Villa are after him and are willing to offer up to £5mill for him :eek::eek:.

Brown is crying out for a striker and if Rafa is willing to offer £6mill cash for Turner then maybe there could be a compromise involving 1 of our players plus cash.

[JFT96YNWA]

There is no way i would pay £3 mill for Distin a player that you are gonna get 2 seasons out of max, Add to that Villa are after him and are willing to offer up to £5mill for him :eek::eek:.

Brown is crying out for a striker and if Rafa is willing to offer £6mill cash for Turner then maybe there could be a compromise involving 1 of our players plus cash.

A chance to ship on ponytail maybe ... :)

[RedMurph08]

A chance to ship on ponytail maybe ... :)

He was in my thoughts to be honest but i dont think Hull would be cosmopolitan enough for him and his Mrs :)

[denashpot]

He was in my thoughts to be honest but i dont think Hull would be cosmopolitan enough for him and his Mrs :)

That's true. His more likely to head back to Germany rather than play for Hull imo.

[GaryMc]

Why spend loads of time bringing through young players and not give them a chance. If Tuner comes in, he will be fourth choice. anything over 3 million would be madness. Martin Kelly looks like a good player, give him the fourth choice place.

[mascherIANO]

5 million and voronin if brown doesnt accept i tink we should look elsewere.

[denashpot]

Why spend loads of time bringing through young players and not give them a chance. If Tuner comes in, he will be fourth choice. anything over 3 million would be madness. Martin Kelly looks like a good player, give him the fourth choice place.

+1 Young players are not going to get any better sitting in the reserves.

[CHRIS1892]

True, but balance that out against Distin 2-4m and Turner, apparently 4-6m.
Id rather take Distin cheaper and decent with experience, and hopefully save the money for an attacking player.Though the nearer the season draws closer the less confident I am of a big name attacking signing.

2-4m & 4-6m, which could suggest ONLY a minmum million difference! Not a great deal is it?

[Alex Raisbeck]

5 million and voronin if brown doesnt accept i tink we should look elsewere.

Problem may be that Voronin may not accept.

[tyronered]

+1 Young players are not going to get any better sitting in the reserves.
agree but like it or not we as fans dont want to wait for a player, nowadays has to be a world beater from the moment he gets a squad number.

[Fluffy]

agree but like it or not we as fans dont want to wait for a player, nowadays has to be a world beater from the moment he gets a squad number.The injuries to Carra,Agger and Skrtle are short term and there`s no need to panic buy.Kelly looks like he`s got the skills and bottle to play some games this yr.He should be eased in as a sub when were under no threat.Any defender we buy should be able to play all across the back four so we`re not short during injuries.
Warner or Distin don`t fill that criteria.

[Beano]

What about bring Warnock back as a 4th def - who could play mainly on either side but in the middle on the odd occasion if required.

[IDon'tKnow]

I think we do need another centre back. But Turner at 12mil, think that a bit high for a player who won't get many games.

He might get a few goals for Hull, but we don't setup to get goals from defender. They don't get forward from open play and we are so static from our corners and free kicks that have to be crossed into the box.

But Man city might talk business for Richard Dunne, You might like the chance to play for a champion league side. I know he didn’t have the best season last year, but think that was more to do with how city played.

[denashpot]

I think we do need another centre back. But Turner at 12mil, think that a bit high for a player who won't get many games.

He might get a few goals for Hull, but we don't setup to get goals from defender. They don't get forward from open play and we are so static from our corners and free kicks that have to be crossed into the box.

But Man city might talk business for Richard Dunne, You might like the chance to play for a champion league side. I know he didn’t have the best season last year, but think that was more to do with how city played.

Do you think Agger and Skrtle are going to sit on the bench if we sign Dunne?

Plus why would Hughes sell him?

[IDon'tKnow]

Has Hughes not already tried to sell Dunne? And City have been linked with Terry and Lescott so Hughes want to replace him. And with Skrtel and Agger injured we are looking short back there at the moment.

[Fluffy]

When you have carra,agger and Skrtl in your team it`s very hard to attract decent cover.Kelly is the man.

[denashpot]

Has Hughes not already tried to sell Dunne? And City have been linked with Terry and Lescott so Hughes want to replace him. And with Skrtel and Agger injured we are looking short back there at the moment.

I dont know if has tbh. But seeing that he has failed to sign Terry and Lescott it looks even less likely that he will leave.

Aren't Agger and Skrtel only short term injuries by the way?

[denashpot]

When you have carra,agger and Skrtl in your team it`s very hard to attract decent cover.Kelly is the man.

+1.

[Fluffy]

Aren't Agger and Skrtel only short term injuries by the way?All three central defenders are supposed to be fit for the Spurs game.

[CHRIS1892]

Yeah, Agger has a bit of a back problem, Carra should be ok. Think Skrtel's probably the more serious of the three at the moment, but Rafa reckons they'll all be fit, so roll on Sunday, let the fun & games commence!

[RedMurph08]

Yeah apparently Skrtel has a broken leg but hopes to run it off before Sunday!!

[Molby Is a Legend]

Yeah apparently Skrtel has a broken leg but hopes to run it off before Sunday!!


Thats not right murph Skrtel doent run off injuries he just grows new body parts

[JMurray#8]

Thats not right murph Skrtel doent run off injuries he just grows new body parts

I think you're both wrong, nothing can even injure Skrtel!!!

[SHOWTIME]

Agger

I second that and boy what a defender!:)

[SHOWTIME]

Do we need turner at all? I think we should be buying another forward ahead of a defender.

I couldn't agree more.

God help us if somethin' happens to Nando.

And before anyone says anythin' bout Kuyt r N'gog able to step in for him.Not a hope!

Am still stunned no top quality striker has been brought in yet.:eek:

[Badman]

apparently ryan shawcross is the latest name to be mentioned as a backup centreback

[tyronered]

hull now say it will be hard to stop turner joining liverpool.

[graham]

Rafa to walk away from Turner deal

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2009/08/10/rafa-benitez-ready-to-look-elsewhere-as-hull-city-slap-11million-price-on-michael-turner-100252-24361292/

[fitzpatrickgary]

11 million is crazy money

[justydawson]

stupid money, go elsewhere rafa

[Goulet]

6 million was the right amount. would go as high as 8 but no further. there are other options.

[JMurray#8]

apparently ryan shawcross is the latest name to be mentioned as a backup centreback

I certainly don't want a manc at the club. I don't think this one is likely...

If it was earlier in the summer I'd say rafa would have got turner for much cheaper but as there's less than a week to go hull want big money as they won't get a replacement in time. Hold off rafa until they get relagated this season and if you still want turner then we'll get him much cheaper...

[tyronered]

6 million was the right amount. would go as high as 8 but no further. there are other options.
thats about right I think the lads head could be turned when a big club come knocking he would walk to anfield.

[The Pernicious One]

I certainly don't want a manc at the club. ...

Its not like he played first Team for them, and they rejected him, so it would be one in the eye for them if he was successful for us.
Besides, it never did Peter Beardsley any harm.

[sarahpool]

I presonally think it would be a great buy and to be honest he is worth the 12 milllion he has proved last yr he can play against the big gunns and very wel @ that and alos score so if we had him andn johnson playing wel we could get @ 7-10 goals between both, We all love jaime carra, but you have to be a bit realisitic and realise he is getting on I dont thnk he will be able to play a full season of back to back games, so turner would be a great addition.

[travis]

who the fcuk is Michael Turner anyway ????

[wertyu]

Hooch's partner!

[barrydoherty]

Seriously i seen him play few games last year but seen nothing to suggest he is an 12 million player, He seems to good centre back from reports seen and 3 years running hull player of the year also. Would be Happy if got him but only if we signed a good striker first off all and 12 Million is far to high

[CHRIS1892]

Hooch's partner!

That was the dogs b******s!

[CHRIS1892]

Do you consider 17m for Johnson too high? Turner's still a bit of an unknown quantity to some people, which is why they're questioning the amount Mr. Perma-tan's looking for. Having said, we need 4 centre halves, so can you name me another centre half we'll pay less than 8-12m for? (apart from Distin!)

[Ron1892]

I would not spend that money on a chap who was playing league one or league two football with brentford 2 years ago.He does not have the experience of playing in big cup competitions like the champions league and he has only one decent season in the top flight.If he was so good he would be in the England squad to play holland,So im glad Rafa is passing this one up.

[CrazyHorse]

I would not spend that money on a chap who was playing league one or league two football with brentford 2 years ago.He does not have the experience of playing in big cup competitions like the champions league and he has only one decent season in the top flight.If he was so good he would be in the England squad to play holland,So im glad Rafa is passing this one up.

+1

There are other options, Turner, give him another year or 2 and he may be worth £11mill, but not at the mo...

[GaryMc]

Do you consider 17m for Johnson too high? Turner's still a bit of an unknown quantity to some people, which is why they're questioning the amount Mr. Perma-tan's looking for. Having said, we need 4 centre halves, so can you name me another centre half we'll pay less than 8-12m for? (apart from Distin!)

Martin Kelly ;)

[Molby Is a Legend]

Do you consider 17m for Johnson too high? Turner's still a bit of an unknown quantity to some people, which is why they're questioning the amount Mr. Perma-tan's looking for. Having said, we need 4 centre halves, so can you name me another centre half we'll pay less than 8-12m for? (apart from Distin!)

Martin Kelly is free...............................

[graham]

Martin Kelly is free...............................

I reckon he's our man for 4th choice. Great little player

[mmstack]

Lad's was just wondering can Turner' play right full. What do we do if Johnston gets a knock? We tried Jamie, Skrtel and even Mascherano there when we where stuck last year. I personally haven't seen Degen to know if he's any good or not. I know theres Darby but Rafa didn't trust him last year. Will he this year.

[elvis]

Martin Kelly has to be the man for the job, Wheater cpuld be got cheap enough so he could be worth looking at.

[LFC4ever]

i think we should sign him

[LUCAN RED!!!]

+1

[CHRIS1892]

Martin Kelly is free...............................

IF he gets a run out, brilliant. But the question/comment was regarding an outsider coming in, not who's already in the club. We'd all love to see our younger players feature, but as usual it won't happen too often.

[RedMurph08]

IF he gets a run out, brilliant. But the question/comment was regarding an outsider coming in, not who's already in the club. We'd all love to see our younger players feature, but as usual it won't happen too often.

Not to take this off topic but regarding you last sentence its because they are not good enough that they arent getting a run out, the way you word it it comes across as it not being the players' fault.

[CHRIS1892]

Not to take this off topic but regarding you last sentence its because they are not good enough that they arent getting a run out, the way you word it it comes across as it not being the players' fault.

If that's what I meant that's what I'd have said. Interpretation is the name of the game. You've interpreted it the way you think it's worded, someone else might see it another way! Rafa not thinking they're good enough is my interpretation of what I wrote. Different strokes for different folks!
:D

[RedMurph08]

If that's what I meant that's what I'd have said. Interpretation is the name of the game. You've interpreted it the way you think it's worded, someone else might see it another way! Rafa not thinking they're good enough is my interpretation of what I wrote. Different stroke for different folks!
:D

Damn your cryptic way with words :)

[CHRIS1892]

[QUOTE=RedMurph08;211274]Damn your cryptic way with words :)[/QUOTE

You sound like Stewie out of Family Guy! :D

[JMurray#8]

Hooch's partner!

Hooch is crazy!

[Ron1892]

ill probally be shot down for saying this,but instead of spending 6-10 mill on a young defender why dont we sign one for free..

Sol Campbell.Quick easy solution.He can score a goal with his head.Will do for cover and will use his experience to help the young lads.Also has played in championship winning teams and has played at the highest level.

[supersub]

12 Million quid is too much for a 4th choice centre half.

[midg23]

ill probally be shot down for saying this,but instead of spending 6-10 mill on a young defender why dont we sign one for free..

Sol Campbell.Quick easy solution.He can score a goal with his head.Will do for cover and will use his experience to help the young lads.Also has played in championship winning teams and has played at the highest level.

IMO Good idea mate but not with Campbell because he's finished

[brian mc kay]

prob gonna go ahead now jamie picked up a knock today, hope we dont pay too much for him. looks like another english lad for the champs league squad as well, we need some one ASAP Distin would be good

[edcarroll02]

Martin Kelly has to be the man for the job, Wheater cpuld be got cheap enough so he could be worth looking at.

I've been impressed with what i've seen by him and he really looks very confident, against Atletico he came on at full back and he took on Aguero and Forlan a few times and came out on top! Not bad for a reserve team player!

[Beanokelly]

I think rafa should put a bid of 8 million as we need a really good back to carra/skrtel because with agger out all the time you can't rely on the kids all the time in the big games and with it being a really big season for us

[denashpot]

I think rafa should put a bid of 8 million as we need a really good back to carra/skrtel because with agger out all the time you can't rely on the kids all the time in the big games and with it being a really big season for us

Waste of 8 million. Did Ayala play shite today or something? Playing him and Kelly in big games will make them better players.

[Liverpoolharp]

According to the Mirror..Rafa Benitez is ready to make a £10m bid for Athletic Bilbao defender Fernando Amorebieta.

The Liverpool boss sent scouts to watch the centre-half play against Espanyol on Sunday and is preparing to table an offer this week.

Benitez is desperate to end his hunt for a commanding defender and has already seen a £6m bid for Hull’s Michael Turner rejected.

Fulham star Brede Hangeland and Stoke’s Ryan Shawcross have also come under consideration but Benitez is now set to firm up his interest in Amorebieta, 24.

Bilbao will ask for at least £

[Gray72]

Is Sol Campbell a free agent? If so he would be worth a punt to cover for the three crocks at centre half for a short term solotion? To buy an english CB will mean paying well over the odds and we know how much Rafa is against that. We have lost out on Bentley, Walcott, Bale, Delph, Downing, Milner, etc in the past because of their extorted prices. It pays of though, to spend £10m on a Spanish CB would not prove value for money.

[fermoyred80]

Waste of 8 million. Did Ayala play shite today or something? Playing him and Kelly in big games will make them better players.

I agree there lad, Ayala came on today and played grand. Whats the point in the youth system if they are shown off first go

[MrsPepe]

According to the Mirror..Rafa Benitez is ready to make a £10m bid for Athletic Bilbao defender Fernando Amorebieta.

The Liverpool boss sent scouts to watch the centre-half play against Espanyol on Sunday and is preparing to table an offer this week.

Benitez is desperate to end his hunt for a commanding defender and has already seen a £6m bid for Hull’s Michael Turner rejected.

Fulham star Brede Hangeland and Stoke’s Ryan Shawcross have also come under consideration but Benitez is now set to firm up his interest in Amorebieta, 24.

Bilbao will ask for at least £


lol, watched them play Barca earlier in the supercap,(Barca won 2-1 , coming bk from 1 nil down)

Well able to get stuck in from what I saw, dont kno w much about him tbh

[GaryMc]

One area we seem decently stocked in CB. Ayala and Kelly can do a job. Its up front that Rafa needs to do some wheeling and dealing. Ship out Vorinin and get someone with experience in. A Garry Macca type signing.

[denashpot]

One area we seem decently stocked in CB. Ayala and Kelly can do a job.

+1

[graham]

One area we seem decently stocked in CB. Ayala and Kelly can do a job. Its up front that Rafa needs to do some wheeling and dealing. Ship out Vorinin and get someone with experience in. A Garry Macca type signing.

I was never much of a fan of Ayala to be honest and I was surprised to see him get the nod ahead of Kelly yesterday. He proved me wrong anyway :D

[Town Man]

gone to Sunderland lads, they have spent a nice bit in this transfer window, we have the wrong American owners!

[denashpot]

gone to Sunderland lads, they have spent a nice bit in this transfer window, we have the wrong American owners!

Jesus we really missed out there! :rolleyes:

His not that great and was at fault for the 4 of the 5 goals Spurs scored last week at hull.

Sunderlands next match is against Hull. I wonder will he make his debut in this match?

[Venom1983]

How much did he cost them?

[Yoko]

12 mill I believe

[Ron1892]

He will be playing at the right level any way playing with them.One season in the premier league and he becomes a 12 mill star..Haha unreal.Great price for Hull and sunderland where done i believe as he is not even a england international yet.

[Yoko]

Cannot believe people questioned 18mill for GJ when this guy goes for 12?!

[scousepaddy]

we should have had him at this price i think!! i dont know if this was already posted

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5671544,00.html

[Benbecul97]

we should have had him at this price i think!! i dont know if this was already posted

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5671544,00.html

Dont know how serious Rafa was about getting him but at that price we missed out badly.

[Gerry]

Only Problem was that with the two rapists taking cash we did not have 4 million its a sad day when Sunderland can out bid Liverpool football club in the transfare market

YANKS OUT NOW

[scousepaddy]

Only Problem was that with the two rapists taking cash we did not have 4 million its a sad day when Sunderland can out bid Liverpool football club in the transfare market

YANKS OUT NOW

+1

[Ron1892]

4 mill is nothing really..

But as Gerry said its sad when sunderland outbid us..

would have been decent back up thats all..

[carramagic]

You would think even as an investment those two clowns could have seen that 4 million for Turner would have been good business as opposed to 2 million for Kyriakos who will have no sell on value

[stalker]

Outbid by Sunderland and ****ing Spurs, who have never qualified for the Champions League, will be getting a new stadium before us.

But like lets sack that Spanish guy and get in Jason McAteer.

[SHOWTIME]

You would think even as an investment those two clowns could have seen that 4 million for Turner would have been good business as opposed to 2 million for Kyriakos who will have no sell on value

I still can't believe we wasted 2 million on that useless clown!!

[carpe diem]

and to think richard dunne was available for 6 million,affirms my belief tom and george tell lies,surely rafa would have perferred to sign him over kyriakos or turner.

[SHOWTIME]

and to think richard dunne was available for 6 million,affirms my belief tom and george tell lies,surely rafa would have perferred to sign him over kyriakos or turner.

We rarely agree but I could not agree more.

Imagine if we had Dunne?We'd def be doing better and he chips in with goals too.And outstanding pro!!

[REDHEART]

+1

if this is the case then why did we sign a cb in the last transfer market.it makes you wonder if rafa has real faith in these lads to play in the cb position.

[donelli]

i think 4m for turner is 4m too much. dont rate him at all. wrt Dunne, he'd probably not have come to liverpool as he was looking for game time. He wouldnt have been guarenteed that at Liverpool.